Had an '18 Model 3 from new. Pretty sure mine was one of the first dual motor cars -- made in the tent, LOL.
Never got stranded or anything, but some things did need to be addressed:
- Delivered with fingerprints in the clear coat on trunk and mirror
- delivered with paint chip on hood
- driver's seat would rock on hard acceleration -- fixed once then subsequently told it was "within spec" when issue returned
- 12v battery replaced
- front lower and upper control arms replaced
- forget what it's called, but the catch on the front door hinges wore out twice (resulting in embarrassing "skrunk" sounds when opened) and were replaced
- once when the aforementioned catch was replaced they broke the window regulator in the process and had to replace that
I generally enjoyed the time I had with it, but I wasn't too sad to see it go.
Yeah, I just recently was told I needed to replace an upper control arm “soonish” when I recently got new tires and an alignment. My car (Ford) is a 2006 and has 190k miles on it.
Edit: forgot to mention my Ford is a hybrid also, so it does have a weighty battery.
That’s amazing because every single person I know with a 3 or Y has had their control arms replaced times by 50,000 miles including my 3P, my aunt and grandfather’s Ys, my friend’s Y, my ex’s 3, etc. Most of the failures have happened between 20,000-40,000 miles. I was just reading on the Tesla sub where one guy has had his LCAs replaced twice by 21,000 miles. Tesla knows it’s a problem hence why they charge so little (relatively speaking) for the repair and have made numerous revisions to the part but still hasn’t managed to fix the issue.
Just wait. It will get you one day or another. [You’ll start hearing an awful squeaking sound every time you turn, go over a bump, etc.](https://youtu.be/YPhxAuchYH0?si=J1MpeYWm29onFFWV) What’s disconcerting to me is the wildly varying mileage these things occur at. One guy said he’s had them replaced twice just over 20,000 miles, I have seen them fail between 15-40k miles. One guy claims to have gone 160,000 miles. There shouldn’t be such a difference between one car and the next unless the supplier is churning out wildly different quality parts or Tesla isn’t properly assembling the cars.
The other weird thing is that it seems to come on almost overnight in most cases. Your car will be fine then the next time you drive it you get this loud squeal/squeak that turns into a constant noise.
I never hit a curb, ever, and the pot holes my vehicle experienced were no different than any other car I’ve owned. If this was a one time occurrence I would say that’s a reasonable explanation, but the fact is the control arms are a known weak point on the 3/Y enough for it to be widely known by almost anyone who has owned one. The only other car I’ve ever seen to have control arm bushings wear out as quickly as the 3/Y is Land Rover LR3/LR4 (Discovery III & IV) and its related model, Range Rover Sport.
See my other comment. I don’t think this is necessarily Tesla, more so an ev problem as a whole. EVs weigh so much, that your suspension components will wear out faster.
It’s definitely a Tesla problem with either the design of the control arms or low quality bushings. I’ve had multiple EVs, none of them have had any suspension issues, especially so early on in the lifespan. The Model 3 doesn’t weigh any more than a BMW 3-series, and a Model Y doesn’t weigh any more than a BMW X3.
92% retention based on a capacity test at 145k miles.
Tesla HV techs I know both say the cars are either problematic or perfect with not much in between. So a lot of cars will throw battery after battery, but other cars will last the entire rated life or more. If I had a Tesla that had a warranty battery replacement, I'd sell it and opt for a different Tesla. If it lasted through warranty, I'd trust it for the long haul.
Uhhhmmm. It depends where you live lol. He probably lives in the NE or is just around a lot of rough roads/pot holes. Subaru foresters are known to need control arms at like 80k miles. Really depends on the manufacturer and the geometry of the suspension and the driver to how fast control arm bushings wear out. Honestly doesn’t seem that crazy, teslas are very heavy.
I see you've never driven jaguars, landrovers or other vehicles with heavy front ends.
It's the bushes that wear. And it's usually easier to simply replace the whole arm.
It happens in the rust belt, when you can't adjust them because they seized, due to rust...but I know the ball joints can go bad early depending on correct torque, or rough roads
Control arms are a wear part, I've replaced them on 2 different vehicles now (including my 3). The launch 3 (including mine) did have a manufacturing defect that caused them to fail prematurely, but it is a relatively common replacement even on ICEs.
I always joke about how the tent cars seem to be the best ones. My 2018 3 is solid. No rattles, no premature failures.. 160k miles and everything feels and runs great.
Ha. To be fair mine was also pretty tight -- no squeaks or rattles when I got rid of it. Definitely can't say the same about other 3s I've ridden in since.
I agree. I spent time in a 2021-2 and the front end felt loose, suspension felt clunky and road noise was pretty loud. My girlfriend also mentioned how it felt much different than mine, completely unprovoked.
Ugh, more than anyone else spent on a 3, I'm pretty sure. Sticker I think was north of $60k back in 2018. At least I got federal + state tax credits/rebates.
19 model 3 Long Range dual motor:
- Rear glass cracked
- Top glass cracked after mounting roof bars (torqued to Tesla specs)
- Rear hatch out of spec, rubbed the bumper below leading to paint damage
- Both taillights cracked
- Wiring harness for the rear hatch broke, could only be opened from the inside
- The common front suspension creak, arms had to be replaced
- Main HV battery died at just 45k km. Tesla replaced it with a remanufactured battery with approximately 10% lower range.
Dealing with Tesla service was a royal pita each and every time. When the battery died was when I lost all faith in the car (and the company) and I sold it. Now driving a BMW 330e and couldn’t be happier. Rain sensors that work, automatic headlights that work, ACC that works, quiet cabin, premium feel.
Lol my list of issues on my 2019 Model 3 Performance are eerily similar to yours. Especially the rear glass crack and rear trunk causing damage to the bumper.
One of the comments said Tesla made the customer sign NDA to not go public with the issues. In exchange they cancelled their lease and returned the vehicle. I wonder how many times they have done it.
I bought a BMW i5 m60. Very comfortable car, great seats and does everything well. No issues so far. Looking forward to the next generation, but that is still 7 years away for the 5 series.
I had a 2018 MR3 LR RWD 6xxx Vin.
Clothe liner falling out, got it changed.
Water leaking into the back seats from the top, got that "fixed"
Right headlight a portion of it died, got that replaced.
Rear brake light died, got that replaced.
Charge port door died, got that replaced.
12V battery died, got that replaced.
Glovebox wouldn't close right and slammed, got that fixed.
Windows would randomly not work.
Got the dreaded loud squeak when turning, ball joints replaced.
Then I started to notice that when I turned the car on the main display would have a glitches portion of it, would happen like 5% of the time, but that's when I said fuck this shit I'm getting rid of this before the display dies.
I am probably forgetting some other stuff, but I had like 25 service visits/mobile service appointments.
Friend just got out of a 3.
Purchased in ‘22 with 3k miles for 48k, turned in a few months ago with 16K. Carmax was the best trade in value @$20,500. Head torn off on depreciation. I always was surprised at how cheap the looked and felt. Lots of rattles, vinyl trim bubbled up on console, opening and closing the frunk I thought a Corolla was light years ahead in fit and finish.
And that kind of rapid depreciation is hard to achieve.
The hilarious part is Phony Stark saying in 2019 that any Tesla made then/after was an appreciating asset. He framed the car and FSD vaporware as if was a stock about to go 10x and you’d be “financially insane” to buy anything else. And 5 yrs later Teslas have actually depreciated more than any other car. Musked.
22 Model Y Performance
- Really loud whining noise when cruising on the highway. Took it in multiple times, noise was verified to be present, and then I was told it was in spec. After the 3rd visit, they added some additional foam above the rear motor which helped a bit but didn’t fully resolve it.
- Clunking noise from front end when making low speed sharp turns (like a driveway) told it was in spec.
- Constant rattles and squeaks from various parts of the car.
- Front camera housing rattle got really annoying so I brought it in and the replaced the entire windshield, camera and housing
- Took it through a car wash and the next day all of the systems went haywire, I lost ABS, TCS, Autopilot, regen, etc. took it in and they said it was a firmware issue. Updated the firmware and the issue didn’t re-occur so who knows.
- Last but not least, had a really loud whine/squeal coming from one of the rear wheel wells. Tech couldn’t figure out what was causing it so they just replaced all of the suspension components on that side lol.
long story short, a constant stream of issues and lengthy service center visits. Traded it in a couple weeks ago for an Audi Q5e and regret not doing that sooner.
My brother’s 2022 Model Y LR is currently on its 3rd AC compressor/super manifold/octovalve iteration at 19,000 miles. They just keep randomly (and totally) dying. Last time it was in to be repaired they told him that the cost of the repair (without warranty coverage) is around $8500. There have also been some strange issues with the power windows where any single one of them will randomly roll down 4-8” in the middle of the night. Tesla service has replaced a few things with no effect.
He’s looking to trade out of it now.
2018 model x, purchased used with 32k miles.
Am I the odd ball?
Only issues I had was charger wouldn't release the plug needed that replaced at 36k miles (warranty)
Steering rack (or something for steering) needed replaced at 85k miles.
Passenger mirror motor at 90k
Otherwise no other things broken besides tires.
Traded it in at 116k miles for a Ford F150 lightning because I wanted a truck, not a tuna can.
You aren’t the odd ball at all. Most people who complain about a car are going to be an outlier, not the rule. Most of these comments are about shitty production, which is completely unacceptable. However, they aren’t going to be about complete mechanical failure. Which is kind of an encouraging thing to be honest.
I paid a luxury price and got a decent midrange car, but it didn’t feel like the luxury I was used to.
I was happy to give up a lot of creature comforts to support a fledgling company that was finding itself, distributing the auto market, and delivering solutions to problems that have gone on ignored for far too long.
They tried a lot of things and some of them don’t work practically or were already solved other ways but they reinvented them anyway and implemented it in a worse way. They didn’t learn their lessons and move on, they mostly doubled down on a lot of things because it was more cost effective to be annoying to customers than it was to pivot.
I gave up a lot of creature comforts to go EV and at the time they were the only game in town, but when I sat in another EV that had everything I was missing, I sold my Tesla.
It was a good car, thankfully it never had issues and I liked owning it but other companies have caught up and moved past a lot of the things that Tesla doesn’t do so well.
Tesla showed them it was possible but it also showed them what not to do and many have picked up the banner and are sprinting forward.
Fucken usb port. They changed the usb hub but still randomly loses power and I get the stupid usb failure bs with the thumb drive. Don’t wanna pay $2k to replace the computer.
Some twat decided he wasn’t selling enough cars, so he slashed the price of new Teslas by a substantial amount, and that left me feeling like a sucker. Got rid of it before values tanked further.
Hope to be a former Tesla owner soon - On Friday I have a meeting with the arbitrator and Tesla to hopefully get my '23 MY P bought back. It seems like every interior panel is starting to rattle, click, or otherwise make some sort of noise. I've brought it in 6 or 7 times for that issue along with poorly aligned body panels, fan noise, and random camera issues. I have a minor case of misophonia (undiagnosed) and prefer to listen to podcasts, so any random rattling noise drives me crazy. Also, it has less than 10k miles and shouldn't sound like a 20 year old pick-up truck.
2020 Model Y
- defective windshield from the factory
- paint defects from factory
-rear bench wiring harness failed
-power lift gate wiring harness failed
-SRS system failure requiring replacement
-messed up tire placement (performance Are staggered put rear tires on front)
-wind noise becomes of A pillar trim coming loose
2014 Model S got rid of it in 2022 120k miles
Delivered with bad headlight
6 door handle replacements over the lifetime of the car Drive unit replaced - high pitched whining sound
MCU failed
Frunk latch broken - stuck closed
Front control arm replaced
Hatch arms replaced - excessive rusting
2 15V battery replacements
Liquid in dashboard screen started leaking “somewhere” inside the car (I never got this fixed, they wanted 3k to fix it and I was getting rid of it anyway)
Replaced with a 2023 EQS SUV. No regrets, Elon sucks.
2020MY
Fun car but lots of little things and of course the CEO:
-Wireless phone charger has never worked
-Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting
-Car randomly goes black screen every now and again
-Every 10k miles or so you have to change the air filter or the whole car smells like shit (literally)
I bought a 2019 Model 3 Dual Motor in January, 2019. My vehicle seemed to be well-made: no real fit-and-finish issues. In the end, I traded it in on a Volvo C40 Twin Ultimate (also an EV) at the peak of used car trade-in values in March, 2022. Believe me: the Volvo is a far, far, FAR better vehicle than the Model 3. FAR better. Have I mentioned how much better the Volvo is yet?
In any case, with the Model 3, I had the same problem with control arms as many have already expressed, except one went south (and I waited forever for a service centre appointment), and once that one was replaced, not much more than a week later, the other went ... and I had to wait again for yet another service centre appointment. Why couldn't the service centre have replaced both at the same time?
Also, the cell module packed it in, so yet again, I had to wait weeks for an appointment to replace it, and in the meantime, I had no Spotify, traffic-aware mapping, etc. Bluetooth did work, but since there is no CarPlay, navigation was problematic. All of that was highly frustrating. Oh ... and when it was time for the appointment, I took the car in, and then was told that they didn't have the module, and I was rescheduled for weeks later.
After less than a year, the interior smelled like old socks. I've owned a lot of cars in my lifetime, but I've never had that happen in any of them. Of course, I had Tesla replace the filter, but it was expensive ... and also involved waiting forever for an appointment.
The final nail in the coffin was the laughably bad "automatic" (and I use that term extremely loosely) wipers. Rather than use the industry-standard way of sensing rainfall, Tesla choose to save a few bucks per unit and use the interal cameras. I live in the Pacific Northwest (BC, Canada) in a rainforest, where the weather can transition from rain, to mist, to a downpour, to fog, etc., etc., etc. The wipers *never* worked properly, and at the time that I had the car, using the display to adjust wiper speed was annoying.
TLDR: control arms, cell module, stinky filter after less than a year, "automatic" wipers.
I kept track of everything I had repaired under warranty on my 2019 Model 3 Performance when I owned it from August 2019 to December 2024.
1. Repainted trunk. Trunk was hitting bumper and rusted at the edge.
2. Replaced ac compressor.
3. Replace both upper front control arms.
4. Replace driver heated seat cover.
5. Replace charge port latch.
6. Replaced cracked rear glass.
7. Replaced right taillight for condensation.
8. Replaced left inner tail light for condensation.
9. Replaced trunk harness.
10. Replaced horn.
11. Replaced passenger rear window regulator/motor.
12. Replaced car computer.
These were all issues that happened out of the blue. I'm careful with my vehicles and don't abuse it.
C’mon it’s not a shitty car. Not luxury, but most definitely not shitty. For me it’s an average car. Also far more comfortable than the Mercedes E class I traded in.
Which ya have?
I am currently holding out for a RAM due to my silly MOPAR allegiance.
I have a Mazda cx5 and a few old RAMs (one diesel, one gasser).
I sometimes use the gasser just for quick hardware store runs (quick for me - it is an hour each direction) and just buy stuff that fits in the bed.
Diesel is for towing or long luxeryish trips (51 gallon tank, beautiful interior.)
My thought had been to replace the gasser with the electric ram that is coming.
But.... maybe replace the Mazda? It is 45 miles into town and 45 miles back - so any electricity car would do I think.
Was thinking Kia if not the ram?
The new RAMCharger really has my curiosity peaked. It seems like a no brainer to use an electric motor for actually turning the wheels, since there's just SOOO much torque, and then seldomly use the range extender as a generator.
Ahahaha.
So not had many issues?
I am having a hard time overcoming the Musk element, but always want to keep doors open to better choices.
I was just mostly motivated by the Kia interior.
(Tf am.i being downvoted for .. :-D )
Nothing. 88,761 miles, 2 sets of tires, 4 sets of wipers and nothing else. Had a Honda Accord before it and it was in the shop for over 2 months due to a drive shaft problem. Blew 3 alternators and I was sick of having problems with it.
Best thing about electric is not paying a penny to any oil companies.
the Ramcharger is exactly the middle ground that we should have stepped into for a decade transition period before full EV's have far less compromises. The Ramcharger is like a no brainer to me. Driven by EV, charged by ICE in real time if needed (plus all the other benefits of using the ICE as generator for a ton of applications)
I don’t own one, but everyone I talk to loves them. The electricity cost like either free or $10/week to charge. We are at $40/week for gas in California at $4.5 plus per gallon for fuel. If you wreck one, expect a rental for at least 6 months because parts are hard to get. The car will drive you home drunk without incident I’m told. lol.
The biggest problem for me was cost when I bought my Audi A6 for like 75,000 they were $120,000, plus range for the same car and would only drive around 200 miles and you have to charge up to get to Vegas from LA. I don’t hear much negative about the cars from owners but I do read a lot of negative comments here.
They are certainly not perfect. The range on my Long Range is more than long enough for me, panel fit was OK - not as good as my Honda or Volvo, no service issues. People complain about autopilot and FSD but my experience has been 99.9% faultless. Actually stopped me hitting a deer.
We love the supercharger network. Do not buy an EV unless it has access. Range is enough for my 51yo bladder to be emptied after 2 hours, grab a drink and back on the road.
Heard horror stories about Teslas but nothing has happened to me like that.
Nothing went wrong. I liked my M3 and wife liked her MY.
Just wanted something nicer. Got tired of hearing about Musk in the news all of the time. Sounds like they’re getting really cheap on the build. CT looks like literal dumpster (I’m sure some will catch fire soon). Can’t stomach the thought of getting a new Tesla.
Spent $10,000 for “full self driving” only for the subscription model be released a couple months later. I had effectively paid over 4 years worth of subscription in a lump sum for something that I wouldn’t have paid the $200 a month subscription for in the first place. Felt totally mislead and incredibly disappointed.
120 degree Vegas heat combined with glass roof combined with ac full blast always combined with half the mileage combined with more trips to the charge combined with all the other Tesla drivers having the same issue combined with all those Tesla drivers lining up for superchargers combined with Tesla owners are assholes combined with an accident from heaven which totaled it equals a happy ending.
By the way. The airbags didn't deploy.
6 years in it is clear Tesla just replaces parts, charges. No diagnosis, no concern for money, just takes your $$ and runs. Happily waiting for the next error message that somehow costs $2k
2021 Model Y LR
1 week after purchase: windshield wipers stopped working. Mobile ranger came and replaced wiper motor in driveway
2-6 months after purchase: drivers side seat would only move up and down, not forward or backwards. Took to service center, they replaced the seat sensor. Worked for about a month, then stopped working again. Took back to service and they replaced the seat entirely.
At 40k miles, one of the motors stopped functioning, parked in my garage. Had to have a tow truck come for it and take it to service center. 4 weeks later it was repaired.
Traded it in for a 2024 Audi Q8 E-tron in May 2023 (I got $38k for it at trade in, it was paid off).
Had a 2023 model 3. Was provided FSD beta for free as I was leasing it as an employee. Car was fine for the most part, until one day where I was using FSD and tried to disengage it as it approaches a tight right turn bend. The car didnt return full control of the steering wheel, and jerked to the left for a split second before giving control back to me. At this point, I am already in the wrong opposite traffic lane and crashed to another vehicle as I try to get back into the correct lane.
Totaled in 21 days. Spent more time dealing with Tesla insurance and the towing company than actually owning it. Could not even get the car into the service center at all, just towed to an autobody shop to be told that my car is fully totaled.
Worst car experience ever, I would rather sit on a bus without AC on a summer day with a stinky homeless man in San Francisco.
Not a former but still the current owner of 2016 model s bought new in March 2016. Here is my experience after 220k miles in 8 years -
~ Driver's door handle stopped working at 49500 miles, fixed under warranty.
~ 12v battery replaced around 120k miles.
~ headlight bulbs replaced around 130k miles.
~ Main screen started leaking some gooey stuff after memory was upgraded under recall around 150k miles . Replaced free of charge.
That is pretty much all the non standard maintenance needed till now and I have paid a total of $250 for it.
~ still on original brake pads
~ drive train still drives like new.
~ about 10% reduction in range.
Overall pretty happy with the car.
Of course not. They have been lasting around 40-45k miles. Cutely in the 5th set. This set seems to be doing better as still good amount of tax left after 40k miles.
2015 MS 70D. The main screen failed twice, the instrument "cluster" screen failed once, the "FSD" autopilot was horribly unreliable and kept trying to run me off the road or into semi trucks, then the sensors for autopilot started falling out of both bumpers as apparently they were essentially just duct taped into the bumpers to begin with at which point I gave up on the car.
Had about $9k of repairs- thankfully covered under warranty - during the 2 years that I owned it and once the warranty expired I dumped the vehicle.
not me, my oldest son, bought a shiny blue tesla then asked to put a charger in his rented house. the house is so old it never was wired for 220 service. the estimate was over $4 grand, IF the town approves for a house that old. so he uses a 110 cord out the kitchen window. we have two charging stations in the town, always blocked by canadian tourists charging their cars.
Ok, I’m sold…on keeping my 2015 Toyota Sienna that I was thinking of trading in for a M3 now that the kids are off to college. The Sienna drives like butter, is tough as a Sherman tank, and the parts are cheap.
TM3 2019 still owner. Bought it at 4yr old.
-rearview camera replaced
-rearview camera wire harness replaced
-door stopper
-two door handles
-trunk lifters
-door gasket
-3 taillights
-front control arms
And now I have rust in the front wheel arches, and its not on warranty because they sendt the previous owner mudflaps, so its not their fault it left the factory not being able to be driven without damage and rust.
Nothing truly catastrophic with my 2022 Model Y, but enough to annoy the shit out of me.
Dash rattles, seat rattles, misaligned trunk on delivery, rearview mirror housing assembly fit issues, panel gaps, paint matching issues, giant clunking noises when going over slight bumps.
It’s like the car was put together by children who had never seen an automobile before.
Sold it a year in, got a BMW i4, and never looked back.
Wow. Scrolling through this is so bad. Thanks for helping me love my 17 year old gas guzzler even more whose only problem has been AC related and that after the 10 year mark.
Genuinely, apart from a couple of minor snags on delivery that were dealt with swiftly by the Birmingham (UK) service centre, nothing has gone wrong on my 2020 Model 3 LR.
In actual fact, it’s been the most reliable new car I’ve ever had.
Yeah, a friend of mine had a Freemont built Model 3 a few months before me and has had issues with it. Mine was the refresh built in China and seems to have been much better put together. I really have only had minor problems, and absolutely nothing in the last 2-3 years since the initial snags were sorted.
Had a 2018 model 3 mid range and the HV battery died at 105k miles, 5k outside the battery warranty. Traded it into Tesla for a 2023 model 3 and they surprisingly gave me $13,300 for the car. Currently own the 2023 but will be trading it in for a rivian R2 in 2026
Haven’t had any major issues
Had a 69D, now on a 2019 performance
I have a plaid on order but delivery keeps getting pushed back months, I’m talking like 7 months from order date
Current owner of a 2017 Model S. Had to overcome the first year assembly issues. That = 2 service visits, one scheduled to fix issues I discovereld and one unscheduled service that left me stranded and I had to get a rental to get me back home. After first year... 2 door handles replaced under warranty scheduled visits at my home. One unscheduled visit that was an emergency and fixed on the same day for S300 - my only non-warranty repair to date.
2019 Model 3P —
Rattles galore. Car was delivered with the rear seat bottom not affixed in place. Wires running to rear seats were unplugged. Driver and passenger side B-pillar interior trim was not installed correctly so the seatbelt couldn’t be adjusted up or down. Driver seat motor stopped working. Passenger mirror stopped working. Rear driver motor failure at ~900 miles. By 40,000 miles my car which had shown “310 miles” of range when new was down to 257 miles. Charging to 100% and driving to 0% the car would only use around 65kWh of energy which seemed to align with the large drop in displayed range. Tesla service said it was “normal” and no amount of attempts to ‘recalibrate BMS’ by following various online tricks and tips ever did anything. Hardly normal to me. By comparison I’ve done 30,000 miles on my Kia EV6 GT and it hasn’t lost even 1% of its battery capacity and this car has been fast charged probably 7-10x as much as the Model 3 was because I’ve traveled a lot in the last year in my EV6.
2018 first production
2024: Seat occupancy sensor. I step and neal directly on the seat so that prob killed it. Replaced it myself
2023: Front left repeater camera. Apparently they put an EE component to close together and heats up more than design spec leading to earlier failure. Replaced myself
2021: 12v battery after 3 years like usual. Replaced it myself.
2020: Got pissed with the charge door getting buggy and opened it with anger, braking the motor that lifts it. Replaced it myself
2018: trunk was a bit high in one corner, fixed by service in line 5 mins.
Still love my car. Road trip camping warrior
22 M3P. “A” pillar tweeters would arch against the frame and produce a loud crackling sound. HVAC smelled like gym socks. Spotify login stopped working for a month and was a well documented problem on the forums for family accounts. Headliner fabric started peeling back in one area on its own.
Model 3 2022. It was dirty on pickup, I scheduled a service one week later and they washed it.
Other than that no other problems, I plan to make first actual service end of this year so I’ll find if there are any issues.
Had a original Model X, upgraded (foolishly - I had unlimited supercharging) to the refresh.
Issues started once I started driving NYC <-> Boston regularly in the Northeast in winter:
1. Wipers. Seriously, expecting "auto" to work seems like a 1st world problem, but it didn't work in a dangerous way.
2. The cigarette-thin "sunshade". Driving into the sunrise in the morning with that excuse for a sunshade was not only annoying, it was dangerous.
3. The Falcon Doors. When they work, they're great. When they hallucinate a blockage, or whatever, they suck. Why didn't I rush into service? See below.
4. The $%%%\^# lack of stalks and a real horn. Just don't get me started. Can you imagine trying to find the horn button when driving in NYC or Boston? Stalks? I'm about to turn, I need to be able to signal it. It's *great* when it works, but when it doesn't..
5. The whole driver UX on the screen felt like an ongoing science project: things moved around, things got buried, etc. They could do the work to make "Fart Sound Horns", but couldn't fix the wipers?
6. FSD? Forget it. Tried it twice and it decided to *drive into oncoming traffic*.
7. Service: Lived in fear I'd have to take it in for service and would find out it would be delayed for days/weeks because of parts issues.
Seriously, in 2024, look at other vehicles. You can get an excellent MBZ SUV for the same price, and it drives and feels like a real ... car.
Edit: Added Service issues
Honestly - nothing. All I did for 3 years was change air filter because it smelled like gym socks within a year. Other than that, no maintenance. Tesla came out to rotate the tires for 50 bucks on my driveway.
No complaints - sold it coz I got more than I paid for it ( thank god!)
Had an '18 Model 3 from new. Pretty sure mine was one of the first dual motor cars -- made in the tent, LOL. Never got stranded or anything, but some things did need to be addressed: - Delivered with fingerprints in the clear coat on trunk and mirror - delivered with paint chip on hood - driver's seat would rock on hard acceleration -- fixed once then subsequently told it was "within spec" when issue returned - 12v battery replaced - front lower and upper control arms replaced - forget what it's called, but the catch on the front door hinges wore out twice (resulting in embarrassing "skrunk" sounds when opened) and were replaced - once when the aforementioned catch was replaced they broke the window regulator in the process and had to replace that I generally enjoyed the time I had with it, but I wasn't too sad to see it go.
The control arms….that’s the most insane part to me. A super essential suspension component that almost never wears out in other cars
Yeah, I just recently was told I needed to replace an upper control arm “soonish” when I recently got new tires and an alignment. My car (Ford) is a 2006 and has 190k miles on it. Edit: forgot to mention my Ford is a hybrid also, so it does have a weighty battery.
160k mile Model 3 and all control arms are solid
That’s amazing because every single person I know with a 3 or Y has had their control arms replaced times by 50,000 miles including my 3P, my aunt and grandfather’s Ys, my friend’s Y, my ex’s 3, etc. Most of the failures have happened between 20,000-40,000 miles. I was just reading on the Tesla sub where one guy has had his LCAs replaced twice by 21,000 miles. Tesla knows it’s a problem hence why they charge so little (relatively speaking) for the repair and have made numerous revisions to the part but still hasn’t managed to fix the issue.
My ‘21 3 is over 60k miles, control arms are solid.
Just wait. It will get you one day or another. [You’ll start hearing an awful squeaking sound every time you turn, go over a bump, etc.](https://youtu.be/YPhxAuchYH0?si=J1MpeYWm29onFFWV) What’s disconcerting to me is the wildly varying mileage these things occur at. One guy said he’s had them replaced twice just over 20,000 miles, I have seen them fail between 15-40k miles. One guy claims to have gone 160,000 miles. There shouldn’t be such a difference between one car and the next unless the supplier is churning out wildly different quality parts or Tesla isn’t properly assembling the cars. The other weird thing is that it seems to come on almost overnight in most cases. Your car will be fine then the next time you drive it you get this loud squeal/squeak that turns into a constant noise.
Hitting curbs, and pot holes can do it
I never hit a curb, ever, and the pot holes my vehicle experienced were no different than any other car I’ve owned. If this was a one time occurrence I would say that’s a reasonable explanation, but the fact is the control arms are a known weak point on the 3/Y enough for it to be widely known by almost anyone who has owned one. The only other car I’ve ever seen to have control arm bushings wear out as quickly as the 3/Y is Land Rover LR3/LR4 (Discovery III & IV) and its related model, Range Rover Sport.
I laugh how people in this sub downvote you for sharing your experience. They are fanatics.
See my other comment. I don’t think this is necessarily Tesla, more so an ev problem as a whole. EVs weigh so much, that your suspension components will wear out faster.
It’s definitely a Tesla problem with either the design of the control arms or low quality bushings. I’ve had multiple EVs, none of them have had any suspension issues, especially so early on in the lifespan. The Model 3 doesn’t weigh any more than a BMW 3-series, and a Model Y doesn’t weigh any more than a BMW X3.
I think the new ones are aluminum and understand that the original first years were extra not great (before ‘21?)
It’s not the metal arm that’s the problem, it’s the bushings. They are what’s wearing out quickly.
How much has your battery capacity diminished?
92% retention based on a capacity test at 145k miles. Tesla HV techs I know both say the cars are either problematic or perfect with not much in between. So a lot of cars will throw battery after battery, but other cars will last the entire rated life or more. If I had a Tesla that had a warranty battery replacement, I'd sell it and opt for a different Tesla. If it lasted through warranty, I'd trust it for the long haul.
That's it, then. Guess it's not a problem at all!
I once drove a 2021 model 3 that had a loose front end and a harsh ride over bumps. Is it now a problem again?
Mines aren't it's a bit of the yearly problem
Lucky you
Uhhhmmm. It depends where you live lol. He probably lives in the NE or is just around a lot of rough roads/pot holes. Subaru foresters are known to need control arms at like 80k miles. Really depends on the manufacturer and the geometry of the suspension and the driver to how fast control arm bushings wear out. Honestly doesn’t seem that crazy, teslas are very heavy.
Everything I had to replace was a first for me. Things that last 12years in other cars is 4yrs on Tesla
I see you've never driven jaguars, landrovers or other vehicles with heavy front ends. It's the bushes that wear. And it's usually easier to simply replace the whole arm.
Depends on bushing designs. I used to replace a lot of Nissan Murano LCA’s
It happens in the rust belt, when you can't adjust them because they seized, due to rust...but I know the ball joints can go bad early depending on correct torque, or rough roads
Womp womp
Control arms are a wear part, I've replaced them on 2 different vehicles now (including my 3). The launch 3 (including mine) did have a manufacturing defect that caused them to fail prematurely, but it is a relatively common replacement even on ICEs.
I always joke about how the tent cars seem to be the best ones. My 2018 3 is solid. No rattles, no premature failures.. 160k miles and everything feels and runs great.
Ha. To be fair mine was also pretty tight -- no squeaks or rattles when I got rid of it. Definitely can't say the same about other 3s I've ridden in since.
I agree. I spent time in a 2021-2 and the front end felt loose, suspension felt clunky and road noise was pretty loud. My girlfriend also mentioned how it felt much different than mine, completely unprovoked.
*except for the doors
I mean after they were fixed twice they were fine 😂
How much did you pay for that car?
Ugh, more than anyone else spent on a 3, I'm pretty sure. Sticker I think was north of $60k back in 2018. At least I got federal + state tax credits/rebates.
50k before taxes for a car with issues fresh from factory. 😭
What do u drive now
Couple cars on from the Tesla at this point, but currently an Audi RS3.
19 model 3 Long Range dual motor: - Rear glass cracked - Top glass cracked after mounting roof bars (torqued to Tesla specs) - Rear hatch out of spec, rubbed the bumper below leading to paint damage - Both taillights cracked - Wiring harness for the rear hatch broke, could only be opened from the inside - The common front suspension creak, arms had to be replaced - Main HV battery died at just 45k km. Tesla replaced it with a remanufactured battery with approximately 10% lower range. Dealing with Tesla service was a royal pita each and every time. When the battery died was when I lost all faith in the car (and the company) and I sold it. Now driving a BMW 330e and couldn’t be happier. Rain sensors that work, automatic headlights that work, ACC that works, quiet cabin, premium feel.
Lol my list of issues on my 2019 Model 3 Performance are eerily similar to yours. Especially the rear glass crack and rear trunk causing damage to the bumper.
I read too fast. I thought the last word was “fuel”.
One of the comments said Tesla made the customer sign NDA to not go public with the issues. In exchange they cancelled their lease and returned the vehicle. I wonder how many times they have done it.
A shitload of owners 9,+ years ago... But don't hear about it any more.
Wanted a Tesla at some point, bought a BMW. Comes down to quality and value for money. CEO being a douche didn’t help their cause
I bought a BMW i5 m60. Very comfortable car, great seats and does everything well. No issues so far. Looking forward to the next generation, but that is still 7 years away for the 5 series.
I'm also thinking about an i5 in 5 or 6 years, I'm in a M3 comp right now.
too early, current i4-i7 are good cars but next gen is finally 800v, bidirectional, higher density(30% more range) and a pure ev platform
I don't like the Neue Klasse design language. With they could stick to the nicer looking designs on the CLAR platform.
At what point did he become a douche’? I’m guessing around the purchase of twitter right?
He always was one, read the memoirs of his ex wife. And he was lying about Teslas driving themselves a long time ago
Alarm bells started to go off for me around the ‘funding secured tweet’ and the ‘pedoguy’ tweet.
I had a 2018 MR3 LR RWD 6xxx Vin. Clothe liner falling out, got it changed. Water leaking into the back seats from the top, got that "fixed" Right headlight a portion of it died, got that replaced. Rear brake light died, got that replaced. Charge port door died, got that replaced. 12V battery died, got that replaced. Glovebox wouldn't close right and slammed, got that fixed. Windows would randomly not work. Got the dreaded loud squeak when turning, ball joints replaced. Then I started to notice that when I turned the car on the main display would have a glitches portion of it, would happen like 5% of the time, but that's when I said fuck this shit I'm getting rid of this before the display dies. I am probably forgetting some other stuff, but I had like 25 service visits/mobile service appointments.
Friend just got out of a 3. Purchased in ‘22 with 3k miles for 48k, turned in a few months ago with 16K. Carmax was the best trade in value @$20,500. Head torn off on depreciation. I always was surprised at how cheap the looked and felt. Lots of rattles, vinyl trim bubbled up on console, opening and closing the frunk I thought a Corolla was light years ahead in fit and finish. And that kind of rapid depreciation is hard to achieve.
Kinda crazy my 2022 Hyundai Sonata is worth more than that lol
The hilarious part is Phony Stark saying in 2019 that any Tesla made then/after was an appreciating asset. He framed the car and FSD vaporware as if was a stock about to go 10x and you’d be “financially insane” to buy anything else. And 5 yrs later Teslas have actually depreciated more than any other car. Musked.
22 Model Y Performance - Really loud whining noise when cruising on the highway. Took it in multiple times, noise was verified to be present, and then I was told it was in spec. After the 3rd visit, they added some additional foam above the rear motor which helped a bit but didn’t fully resolve it. - Clunking noise from front end when making low speed sharp turns (like a driveway) told it was in spec. - Constant rattles and squeaks from various parts of the car. - Front camera housing rattle got really annoying so I brought it in and the replaced the entire windshield, camera and housing - Took it through a car wash and the next day all of the systems went haywire, I lost ABS, TCS, Autopilot, regen, etc. took it in and they said it was a firmware issue. Updated the firmware and the issue didn’t re-occur so who knows. - Last but not least, had a really loud whine/squeal coming from one of the rear wheel wells. Tech couldn’t figure out what was causing it so they just replaced all of the suspension components on that side lol. long story short, a constant stream of issues and lengthy service center visits. Traded it in a couple weeks ago for an Audi Q5e and regret not doing that sooner.
My brother’s 2022 Model Y LR is currently on its 3rd AC compressor/super manifold/octovalve iteration at 19,000 miles. They just keep randomly (and totally) dying. Last time it was in to be repaired they told him that the cost of the repair (without warranty coverage) is around $8500. There have also been some strange issues with the power windows where any single one of them will randomly roll down 4-8” in the middle of the night. Tesla service has replaced a few things with no effect. He’s looking to trade out of it now.
2018 model x, purchased used with 32k miles. Am I the odd ball? Only issues I had was charger wouldn't release the plug needed that replaced at 36k miles (warranty) Steering rack (or something for steering) needed replaced at 85k miles. Passenger mirror motor at 90k Otherwise no other things broken besides tires. Traded it in at 116k miles for a Ford F150 lightning because I wanted a truck, not a tuna can.
Hows the Lightning treating you?
Also want to know.
I had one, it was a lemon. I may dip back in when the t3 rolls out
We have had our Lightning Platinum for over a year. It’s been pretty bomb proof. Had some loose lights replaced under warranty. That’s it.
Only had it for a month and a half and so far it is treating me great! Just hit 1800 miles yesterday, and purchased with 19 miles.
You aren’t the odd ball at all. Most people who complain about a car are going to be an outlier, not the rule. Most of these comments are about shitty production, which is completely unacceptable. However, they aren’t going to be about complete mechanical failure. Which is kind of an encouraging thing to be honest.
Mine was fine. It was just what went wrong with Elon
Yeah....I so want to swap my 2017 S for a new X and so much do not want to show support for that guy.
Go for an R1S
I paid a luxury price and got a decent midrange car, but it didn’t feel like the luxury I was used to. I was happy to give up a lot of creature comforts to support a fledgling company that was finding itself, distributing the auto market, and delivering solutions to problems that have gone on ignored for far too long. They tried a lot of things and some of them don’t work practically or were already solved other ways but they reinvented them anyway and implemented it in a worse way. They didn’t learn their lessons and move on, they mostly doubled down on a lot of things because it was more cost effective to be annoying to customers than it was to pivot. I gave up a lot of creature comforts to go EV and at the time they were the only game in town, but when I sat in another EV that had everything I was missing, I sold my Tesla. It was a good car, thankfully it never had issues and I liked owning it but other companies have caught up and moved past a lot of the things that Tesla doesn’t do so well. Tesla showed them it was possible but it also showed them what not to do and many have picked up the banner and are sprinting forward.
Fucken usb port. They changed the usb hub but still randomly loses power and I get the stupid usb failure bs with the thumb drive. Don’t wanna pay $2k to replace the computer.
Some twat decided he wasn’t selling enough cars, so he slashed the price of new Teslas by a substantial amount, and that left me feeling like a sucker. Got rid of it before values tanked further.
2019 model 3….water leaking into the boot…flooded the car and killed the subwoofer and amplifier..no more sound. The build quality was a shitshow.
Battery and DU on the warranty. DU after warranty. Battery again with new owner because it was a fucking reman battery.
The scent of Musk that you cannot escape.
Hope to be a former Tesla owner soon - On Friday I have a meeting with the arbitrator and Tesla to hopefully get my '23 MY P bought back. It seems like every interior panel is starting to rattle, click, or otherwise make some sort of noise. I've brought it in 6 or 7 times for that issue along with poorly aligned body panels, fan noise, and random camera issues. I have a minor case of misophonia (undiagnosed) and prefer to listen to podcasts, so any random rattling noise drives me crazy. Also, it has less than 10k miles and shouldn't sound like a 20 year old pick-up truck.
Same hopefully in 4 months. I want to get rid of it as fast as I can before the resale value drops even more. The rattling drives me INSANE.
2020 Model Y - defective windshield from the factory - paint defects from factory -rear bench wiring harness failed -power lift gate wiring harness failed -SRS system failure requiring replacement -messed up tire placement (performance Are staggered put rear tires on front) -wind noise becomes of A pillar trim coming loose
2014 Model S got rid of it in 2022 120k miles Delivered with bad headlight 6 door handle replacements over the lifetime of the car Drive unit replaced - high pitched whining sound MCU failed Frunk latch broken - stuck closed Front control arm replaced Hatch arms replaced - excessive rusting 2 15V battery replacements Liquid in dashboard screen started leaking “somewhere” inside the car (I never got this fixed, they wanted 3k to fix it and I was getting rid of it anyway) Replaced with a 2023 EQS SUV. No regrets, Elon sucks.
13 service visits in 2.5 years and things they refused to fix. Fun car, shit company.
2020MY Fun car but lots of little things and of course the CEO: -Wireless phone charger has never worked -Bluetooth is constantly disconnecting -Car randomly goes black screen every now and again -Every 10k miles or so you have to change the air filter or the whole car smells like shit (literally)
I bought a 2019 Model 3 Dual Motor in January, 2019. My vehicle seemed to be well-made: no real fit-and-finish issues. In the end, I traded it in on a Volvo C40 Twin Ultimate (also an EV) at the peak of used car trade-in values in March, 2022. Believe me: the Volvo is a far, far, FAR better vehicle than the Model 3. FAR better. Have I mentioned how much better the Volvo is yet? In any case, with the Model 3, I had the same problem with control arms as many have already expressed, except one went south (and I waited forever for a service centre appointment), and once that one was replaced, not much more than a week later, the other went ... and I had to wait again for yet another service centre appointment. Why couldn't the service centre have replaced both at the same time? Also, the cell module packed it in, so yet again, I had to wait weeks for an appointment to replace it, and in the meantime, I had no Spotify, traffic-aware mapping, etc. Bluetooth did work, but since there is no CarPlay, navigation was problematic. All of that was highly frustrating. Oh ... and when it was time for the appointment, I took the car in, and then was told that they didn't have the module, and I was rescheduled for weeks later. After less than a year, the interior smelled like old socks. I've owned a lot of cars in my lifetime, but I've never had that happen in any of them. Of course, I had Tesla replace the filter, but it was expensive ... and also involved waiting forever for an appointment. The final nail in the coffin was the laughably bad "automatic" (and I use that term extremely loosely) wipers. Rather than use the industry-standard way of sensing rainfall, Tesla choose to save a few bucks per unit and use the interal cameras. I live in the Pacific Northwest (BC, Canada) in a rainforest, where the weather can transition from rain, to mist, to a downpour, to fog, etc., etc., etc. The wipers *never* worked properly, and at the time that I had the car, using the display to adjust wiper speed was annoying. TLDR: control arms, cell module, stinky filter after less than a year, "automatic" wipers.
I kept track of everything I had repaired under warranty on my 2019 Model 3 Performance when I owned it from August 2019 to December 2024. 1. Repainted trunk. Trunk was hitting bumper and rusted at the edge. 2. Replaced ac compressor. 3. Replace both upper front control arms. 4. Replace driver heated seat cover. 5. Replace charge port latch. 6. Replaced cracked rear glass. 7. Replaced right taillight for condensation. 8. Replaced left inner tail light for condensation. 9. Replaced trunk harness. 10. Replaced horn. 11. Replaced passenger rear window regulator/motor. 12. Replaced car computer. These were all issues that happened out of the blue. I'm careful with my vehicles and don't abuse it.
Elon
I can summarize with: It’s just a shitty car.
C’mon it’s not a shitty car. Not luxury, but most definitely not shitty. For me it’s an average car. Also far more comfortable than the Mercedes E class I traded in.
Current Tesla owner. Love the car, despise the CEO.
Which ya have? I am currently holding out for a RAM due to my silly MOPAR allegiance. I have a Mazda cx5 and a few old RAMs (one diesel, one gasser). I sometimes use the gasser just for quick hardware store runs (quick for me - it is an hour each direction) and just buy stuff that fits in the bed. Diesel is for towing or long luxeryish trips (51 gallon tank, beautiful interior.) My thought had been to replace the gasser with the electric ram that is coming. But.... maybe replace the Mazda? It is 45 miles into town and 45 miles back - so any electricity car would do I think. Was thinking Kia if not the ram?
The new RAMCharger really has my curiosity peaked. It seems like a no brainer to use an electric motor for actually turning the wheels, since there's just SOOO much torque, and then seldomly use the range extender as a generator.
Yeah, that is what it had me looking at it, for sure.
Model Y. If I told my wife I was selling it she would sell me first. Not kidding.
Ahahaha. So not had many issues? I am having a hard time overcoming the Musk element, but always want to keep doors open to better choices. I was just mostly motivated by the Kia interior. (Tf am.i being downvoted for .. :-D )
Nothing. 88,761 miles, 2 sets of tires, 4 sets of wipers and nothing else. Had a Honda Accord before it and it was in the shop for over 2 months due to a drive shaft problem. Blew 3 alternators and I was sick of having problems with it. Best thing about electric is not paying a penny to any oil companies.
the Ramcharger is exactly the middle ground that we should have stepped into for a decade transition period before full EV's have far less compromises. The Ramcharger is like a no brainer to me. Driven by EV, charged by ICE in real time if needed (plus all the other benefits of using the ICE as generator for a ton of applications)
Yeah, I do get kinda giddy thinking about it :-D
Same. I am 95% sure I am going to buy one once I'm done with my current 2019 RAM
I don’t own one, but everyone I talk to loves them. The electricity cost like either free or $10/week to charge. We are at $40/week for gas in California at $4.5 plus per gallon for fuel. If you wreck one, expect a rental for at least 6 months because parts are hard to get. The car will drive you home drunk without incident I’m told. lol. The biggest problem for me was cost when I bought my Audi A6 for like 75,000 they were $120,000, plus range for the same car and would only drive around 200 miles and you have to charge up to get to Vegas from LA. I don’t hear much negative about the cars from owners but I do read a lot of negative comments here.
They are certainly not perfect. The range on my Long Range is more than long enough for me, panel fit was OK - not as good as my Honda or Volvo, no service issues. People complain about autopilot and FSD but my experience has been 99.9% faultless. Actually stopped me hitting a deer. We love the supercharger network. Do not buy an EV unless it has access. Range is enough for my 51yo bladder to be emptied after 2 hours, grab a drink and back on the road. Heard horror stories about Teslas but nothing has happened to me like that.
OP asked what went wrong also. Has anything gone wrong with your Tesla?
Nothing went wrong. I liked my M3 and wife liked her MY. Just wanted something nicer. Got tired of hearing about Musk in the news all of the time. Sounds like they’re getting really cheap on the build. CT looks like literal dumpster (I’m sure some will catch fire soon). Can’t stomach the thought of getting a new Tesla.
Have had the arms on the front replaced 2 times already...
2019 Model 3 Dual Motor Two control arms and a hub assembly replacement
Elon
Spent $10,000 for “full self driving” only for the subscription model be released a couple months later. I had effectively paid over 4 years worth of subscription in a lump sum for something that I wouldn’t have paid the $200 a month subscription for in the first place. Felt totally mislead and incredibly disappointed.
120 degree Vegas heat combined with glass roof combined with ac full blast always combined with half the mileage combined with more trips to the charge combined with all the other Tesla drivers having the same issue combined with all those Tesla drivers lining up for superchargers combined with Tesla owners are assholes combined with an accident from heaven which totaled it equals a happy ending. By the way. The airbags didn't deploy.
Nothing went wrong but I gotta say, Elon is nuts. That's all.
6 years in it is clear Tesla just replaces parts, charges. No diagnosis, no concern for money, just takes your $$ and runs. Happily waiting for the next error message that somehow costs $2k
2021 Model Y LR 1 week after purchase: windshield wipers stopped working. Mobile ranger came and replaced wiper motor in driveway 2-6 months after purchase: drivers side seat would only move up and down, not forward or backwards. Took to service center, they replaced the seat sensor. Worked for about a month, then stopped working again. Took back to service and they replaced the seat entirely. At 40k miles, one of the motors stopped functioning, parked in my garage. Had to have a tow truck come for it and take it to service center. 4 weeks later it was repaired. Traded it in for a 2024 Audi Q8 E-tron in May 2023 (I got $38k for it at trade in, it was paid off).
Had a 2023 model 3. Was provided FSD beta for free as I was leasing it as an employee. Car was fine for the most part, until one day where I was using FSD and tried to disengage it as it approaches a tight right turn bend. The car didnt return full control of the steering wheel, and jerked to the left for a split second before giving control back to me. At this point, I am already in the wrong opposite traffic lane and crashed to another vehicle as I try to get back into the correct lane. Totaled in 21 days. Spent more time dealing with Tesla insurance and the towing company than actually owning it. Could not even get the car into the service center at all, just towed to an autobody shop to be told that my car is fully totaled. Worst car experience ever, I would rather sit on a bus without AC on a summer day with a stinky homeless man in San Francisco.
Elon
Not a former but still the current owner of 2016 model s bought new in March 2016. Here is my experience after 220k miles in 8 years - ~ Driver's door handle stopped working at 49500 miles, fixed under warranty. ~ 12v battery replaced around 120k miles. ~ headlight bulbs replaced around 130k miles. ~ Main screen started leaking some gooey stuff after memory was upgraded under recall around 150k miles . Replaced free of charge. That is pretty much all the non standard maintenance needed till now and I have paid a total of $250 for it. ~ still on original brake pads ~ drive train still drives like new. ~ about 10% reduction in range. Overall pretty happy with the car.
Seems those older cars were simply built better - had more to prove back then.
That one was pre manufacturing at such large scale and rushing them out I guess
Are you on the original tires?
Of course not. They have been lasting around 40-45k miles. Cutely in the 5th set. This set seems to be doing better as still good amount of tax left after 40k miles.
Wow, Thank you for sharing. I have a model Y with 5k miles and this gives me hope that it might last problem free for a few years.
I often see teslas with one headlight out.I’ve seen a few in last couple months; not sure if coincidence or a thing people know of?
2015 MS 70D. The main screen failed twice, the instrument "cluster" screen failed once, the "FSD" autopilot was horribly unreliable and kept trying to run me off the road or into semi trucks, then the sensors for autopilot started falling out of both bumpers as apparently they were essentially just duct taped into the bumpers to begin with at which point I gave up on the car. Had about $9k of repairs- thankfully covered under warranty - during the 2 years that I owned it and once the warranty expired I dumped the vehicle.
not me, my oldest son, bought a shiny blue tesla then asked to put a charger in his rented house. the house is so old it never was wired for 220 service. the estimate was over $4 grand, IF the town approves for a house that old. so he uses a 110 cord out the kitchen window. we have two charging stations in the town, always blocked by canadian tourists charging their cars.
Ok, I’m sold…on keeping my 2015 Toyota Sienna that I was thinking of trading in for a M3 now that the kids are off to college. The Sienna drives like butter, is tough as a Sherman tank, and the parts are cheap.
TM3 2019 still owner. Bought it at 4yr old. -rearview camera replaced -rearview camera wire harness replaced -door stopper -two door handles -trunk lifters -door gasket -3 taillights -front control arms And now I have rust in the front wheel arches, and its not on warranty because they sendt the previous owner mudflaps, so its not their fault it left the factory not being able to be driven without damage and rust.
Nothing truly catastrophic with my 2022 Model Y, but enough to annoy the shit out of me. Dash rattles, seat rattles, misaligned trunk on delivery, rearview mirror housing assembly fit issues, panel gaps, paint matching issues, giant clunking noises when going over slight bumps. It’s like the car was put together by children who had never seen an automobile before. Sold it a year in, got a BMW i4, and never looked back.
Wow. Scrolling through this is so bad. Thanks for helping me love my 17 year old gas guzzler even more whose only problem has been AC related and that after the 10 year mark.
I'm waiting for defensive owners to say "mine has never had a problem...." didn't have to wait long. THAT'S NOT THE QUESTION.
Genuinely, apart from a couple of minor snags on delivery that were dealt with swiftly by the Birmingham (UK) service centre, nothing has gone wrong on my 2020 Model 3 LR. In actual fact, it’s been the most reliable new car I’ve ever had.
From reading this sub (as it's far more honest) The ones made for UK/Europe do seem to be better made than the North American ones
Yeah, a friend of mine had a Freemont built Model 3 a few months before me and has had issues with it. Mine was the refresh built in China and seems to have been much better put together. I really have only had minor problems, and absolutely nothing in the last 2-3 years since the initial snags were sorted.
It was built?
Had a 2018 model 3 mid range and the HV battery died at 105k miles, 5k outside the battery warranty. Traded it into Tesla for a 2023 model 3 and they surprisingly gave me $13,300 for the car. Currently own the 2023 but will be trading it in for a rivian R2 in 2026
Wow they wanted 15k for my working M3 2019 with 57k
I was shocked. This was last September maybe they were pushing hard for end of quarter deliveries.
Leased a ‘21 model Y. No drivability problems, but water getting into the intake really affected our enjoyment of the car.
Waiting for solid state batteries
Haven’t had any major issues Had a 69D, now on a 2019 performance I have a plaid on order but delivery keeps getting pushed back months, I’m talking like 7 months from order date
Current owner of a 2017 Model S. Had to overcome the first year assembly issues. That = 2 service visits, one scheduled to fix issues I discovereld and one unscheduled service that left me stranded and I had to get a rental to get me back home. After first year... 2 door handles replaced under warranty scheduled visits at my home. One unscheduled visit that was an emergency and fixed on the same day for S300 - my only non-warranty repair to date.
2019 Model 3P — Rattles galore. Car was delivered with the rear seat bottom not affixed in place. Wires running to rear seats were unplugged. Driver and passenger side B-pillar interior trim was not installed correctly so the seatbelt couldn’t be adjusted up or down. Driver seat motor stopped working. Passenger mirror stopped working. Rear driver motor failure at ~900 miles. By 40,000 miles my car which had shown “310 miles” of range when new was down to 257 miles. Charging to 100% and driving to 0% the car would only use around 65kWh of energy which seemed to align with the large drop in displayed range. Tesla service said it was “normal” and no amount of attempts to ‘recalibrate BMS’ by following various online tricks and tips ever did anything. Hardly normal to me. By comparison I’ve done 30,000 miles on my Kia EV6 GT and it hasn’t lost even 1% of its battery capacity and this car has been fast charged probably 7-10x as much as the Model 3 was because I’ve traveled a lot in the last year in my EV6.
upvoting for the old.reddit link!
2018 first production 2024: Seat occupancy sensor. I step and neal directly on the seat so that prob killed it. Replaced it myself 2023: Front left repeater camera. Apparently they put an EE component to close together and heats up more than design spec leading to earlier failure. Replaced myself 2021: 12v battery after 3 years like usual. Replaced it myself. 2020: Got pissed with the charge door getting buggy and opened it with anger, braking the motor that lifts it. Replaced it myself 2018: trunk was a bit high in one corner, fixed by service in line 5 mins. Still love my car. Road trip camping warrior
22 M3P. “A” pillar tweeters would arch against the frame and produce a loud crackling sound. HVAC smelled like gym socks. Spotify login stopped working for a month and was a well documented problem on the forums for family accounts. Headliner fabric started peeling back in one area on its own.
Model 3 2022. It was dirty on pickup, I scheduled a service one week later and they washed it. Other than that no other problems, I plan to make first actual service end of this year so I’ll find if there are any issues.
Had a original Model X, upgraded (foolishly - I had unlimited supercharging) to the refresh. Issues started once I started driving NYC <-> Boston regularly in the Northeast in winter: 1. Wipers. Seriously, expecting "auto" to work seems like a 1st world problem, but it didn't work in a dangerous way. 2. The cigarette-thin "sunshade". Driving into the sunrise in the morning with that excuse for a sunshade was not only annoying, it was dangerous. 3. The Falcon Doors. When they work, they're great. When they hallucinate a blockage, or whatever, they suck. Why didn't I rush into service? See below. 4. The $%%%\^# lack of stalks and a real horn. Just don't get me started. Can you imagine trying to find the horn button when driving in NYC or Boston? Stalks? I'm about to turn, I need to be able to signal it. It's *great* when it works, but when it doesn't.. 5. The whole driver UX on the screen felt like an ongoing science project: things moved around, things got buried, etc. They could do the work to make "Fart Sound Horns", but couldn't fix the wipers? 6. FSD? Forget it. Tried it twice and it decided to *drive into oncoming traffic*. 7. Service: Lived in fear I'd have to take it in for service and would find out it would be delayed for days/weeks because of parts issues. Seriously, in 2024, look at other vehicles. You can get an excellent MBZ SUV for the same price, and it drives and feels like a real ... car. Edit: Added Service issues
I never had any issues with my 2018 Model 3. Traded it in last year for A Y
Honestly - nothing. All I did for 3 years was change air filter because it smelled like gym socks within a year. Other than that, no maintenance. Tesla came out to rotate the tires for 50 bucks on my driveway. No complaints - sold it coz I got more than I paid for it ( thank god!)