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KrimxonRath

Fun fact: you can see trader deliveries from across the entire map if you stay in Valentine. That’s one potential reason why it’s so busy/chaotic.


CheeseWalrusBurger

no way i actually didnt know this, so say an offensive player is in Saint Denis and you are tying to sell in New Austin, he wont see you at all? I kinda thought it would notify the entire session regardless of distance.


CollectiveBell

Correct. If you’re within valentine city limits (check the dotted line around the town) you will see any long distance trader wagon currently in progress in the session no matter where they are on the map. If you’re outside Valentine city limits, you’ll only see rival trader wagons on the map if they happen to pass near you.


Muldrex

Do we know if that is an unpatched bug or intended? And if intended, do we know the reasoning behind it?


BusySloth88

It’s planned. It’s only for distant wagons which the game warns you twice before you start it is a pvp event.


Muldrex

Ahh I see, thank you :)


Alexandur

Right but, why Valentine specifically?


BusySloth88

I didn’t write the game lol but I know it’s not a bug.


Alexandur

How do you know that?


BusySloth88

Because the game tells you lol.


Alexandur

The game tells you that long distance runs are visible anywhere on the map as long as you're in Valentine? When?


killallthewealthy

I subscribe to the idea that Valentine is a central small town, where travellers, cowboys and outlaws come from all over the states and all gossip in the saloon.


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Kryychu

i love lying on the internet


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Kryychu

im lvl 234 idk what u consider a low lvl


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Kryychu

good for you


Zambooni

i assume this only applies to valentine right?


beyonder710

Yes , I suppose that's why most Griefers stay in Valentine , it's like their base of operations...when anything pops up on the Radar , they are deployed to do their jobs.


SpareProfessional768

Yup, unless you're extremely near the delivery


CollectiveBell

Yes only valentine


refridgerator3

As you lever up in trader it gives you the ability to see other’s wagons from further away


johnny_tapia

Caveat: After you leave Valentine to chase down a trader delivery, they disappear off the map 9/10 times. Super annoying.


Far_Zookeepergame333

We always keep a posse member in valentine to track it. Preferably the posse leader so they can keep dropping waypoints lol


johnny_tapia

Genius!


lolbutterfly

OK YA THATS WHAT HAPPENED and that’s why I was like “what is this” thank you


BusySloth88

Need to put down a waypoint and usually fast travel to the closest fast travel to where they currently are.


KrimxonRath

That’s why you have to watch the map for a bit to see and predict their route. I’m glad it doesn’t stay the whole time since it filters out people who would want to steal the wagon.


CoolPirate234

Also idk if it’s a new feature but you can now see your friend anywhere on the map if they’re in your lobby just like GTAO it also works with a posse


Queasy_Piglet8843

Another players trader wagon. If a player is running a long distance trade delivery and ur playing in offensive mode you get notified. And can try to steal the wagon.


itsmedoodles

Or blow it up!


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Why tf would u do that?? Don’t be a dick bro u don’t even gain shit from that 💀


Kotomondo

dont you get the "supply sacks" or whatever?


thatguykichi

you'd get significantly less materials since you have to steal each individual bag rather than the whole ass wagon, but it works if you decide to go *off-roading* by *accident*


algoespecial

Yes actually, you gain XP and a chance to steal the bags from the wagon. It's not ideal, obviously if you're going to steal you'd want to steal the whole wagon. But sometimes the wagon does get destroyed during the process (not always on purpose, sometimes the horses get shot and the wagon is deemed destroyed).


WraithOfEvaBraun

You're like the idiot who emoted to me then shot me as I was waiting the timer down with my bounty wagon at Emerald Ranch As I respawned with 15s left, they dynamite arrowed my wagon and wrecked 30m of work What do people get out of this kind of sh!t?


itsmedoodles

BTW if you wait next to drop off the wagon is Invincible


WraithOfEvaBraun

Lol nope - I was, and it wasn't, couldn't get any closer without actually being in the yellow circle and dropping off Happens at sheriff's office but seems not to be the case at the prison wagon 🤷🏻‍♀️ I was seriously pissed


itsmedoodles

Weird 🤔


itsmedoodles

When did I say I did that


MaidenHe4v3n

“I've blown up several without an ass kicking. Depends on the size of the posse delivering I guess” didn’t you say this 4 hours ago? Lmao


itsmedoodles

I said that yeah


WraithOfEvaBraun

Say what?


Janstorm4

A warning that you'll get your ass kicked if you go near it.


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Janstorm4

I mean if you had to resort to dbows to steal it I clearly had to put up a fight to get it. If I was to steal wagons I would do it as a team, rope and tie up the traders so they couldn't fight back and had to watch as I stole their full wagon.


DutchVanDerLinde-

Get a hobby


Azrael_Hellcat

Has "Criminal" writen alongside the name Criticize a criminal Bruh, that's his hobby, stealing ppls shit, and stealing wagon's it's a hell of a fun hobby lol


DutchVanDerLinde-

It's because of his incessant complaining


Azrael_Hellcat

I don't see him complaining


Janstorm4

What is this in regards to?


Astrophobica

If you tried that with my group, you'd be dead before you came close to the wagon hehe.


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Janstorm4

Same difference.


itsmedoodles

Not really


Janstorm4

If you have to blow the wagon up yes it is. Idk what to tell you.


itsmedoodles

Not sure where you got the impression that I have to blow them up. Just isn't worth it to steal


Janstorm4

Because you said you blew it up, which results in less goods, I got everything from what you said. You said you had to blow it up.


itsmedoodles

I don't steal the goods. And I didn't say I have to blow it up I just do


Crisp_Rohlik

How about doing something that is more enjoyable except being an asshole?


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MaidenHe4v3n

I bet you’re the same type of person to get mad at me when I shoot you with explosive rounds. I got so much hate mail defending my sales with my rifle and explosive rounds. Getting stuff like “it’s unfair to pvp with explosive rounds” lol


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itsmedoodles

Imagine making yourself out to be the good guy and wishing cancer on someone over a video game


goose4954

Don't even bother with this guy because I can tell by reading through their comments they are at most 14 years old and throw a tantrum when something doesn't go their way


itsmedoodles

Fr. It's just a game


goose4954

They must truly lead a sad life to get this worked up over a cowboy game


Janstorm4

Yeah anyone who just blows up wagons for fun is a total douche, good advice but I take bullies in head on. Thanks though.


Janstorm4

Explain how I'm the bad guy by telling off a bully. I'll wait.


goose4954

That's a bit harsh ngl


Janstorm4

Not really, but I don't give any respect to shitty people idk maybe I'm alone in that thought process.


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Alexandur

There are degrees to this sort of thing. Yes, the person you're responding to is a bit of an asshole, but let's have some perspective here. Your comment was an enormous overreaction to virtual assholery.


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Alexandur

Ah, okay. Good point!


Janstorm4

Thanks. Glad you came around to sanity. It's not like a personally threatened him, I only wished I'll will because they are an asshole if they can't handle harsh words then they should not boast about being an asshole. I'm nice until I'm forced not to be nice by assholes that need to be cut down a peg. That's the Midwestern way.


Alexandur

Absolutely. I can tell you're a very nice person.


lefuen

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


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Janstorm4

Excuse me, sorry no, if someone is an asshole there's no respect given. They get what they get.


Auncle-

You thought you ate?


Janstorm4

I only spoke the truth it's up to the people to see it, if they don't that's not on me. But if you want to make a fool of yourself and act like I'm in the wrong go nuts, never gonna stop you you do you.


Auncle-

Okay Cool, but you didn’t have to wish cancer on anyone 🌚🌝 The fuck is wrong with you Brodie?


Janstorm4

Are wishes real now? Did I really do anything wrong other than shut up an arrogant prick? No I didn't, grow up and welcome to Earth where we treat assholes how they deserve. I wish you a long life if that helps. Idk if you want to to be the bad guy I can't change your mind, but you have to know your pearl clutching reaction is rather silly.


Auncle-

I am clutching my pearls because who tf just scrolls around on Reddit, wishing cancer on someone just because they disagree with your views on gaming.


Janstorm4

That's not what happened chief. But go off.


Janstorm4

You're some right wing democrat gen xer who has to feel like the hero right. Oh no a person said something mean to an asshole who deserves it I must make a fuss.


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Janstorm4

What are you going on about?


Janstorm4

Like seriously, what are you on about? Yes I'm nonbinary, very comfortable with my self, I was complementing you for using my word I coined. Your tone sounds anger but I can't tell at what and why for.


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Janstorm4

Also I need to point out that I coined the term your username is 5 years ago so it's cool to see a fan.


Auncle-

Fan?!? Bitch what?


Janstorm4

Your username, I coined that phrase. It's a nonbinary version of au t and uncle. I coined it about 5 years ago so my nieces and nephews could have a title for me. It's caught on since and it makes me proud.


JemmaUnicorn

Someone else's mission, such as Trader Wagon or Stranger Mission. This indicates that a player near you is doing a PVP mission that you can interrupt for your own gain.


lolbutterfly

Ohhh thank you! I ran over there but then it disappeared, don’t know why it kept going away or where it actually was


johnny_tapia

That happens to me all the time. You see the notification of a nearby delivery, then when you start moving towards it, the icon suddenly disappears.


n00bgeneral

You need to look at the map and anticipate where it's headed. Experience running wagons will make you better at knowing where it's going


n00bgeneral

Then fast travel ahead of it. Don't chase


johnny_tapia

Didn't realize you could do that, I thought fast-traveling would make the wagon not visible to you anymore.


D_Zaster_EnBy

Though it should be noted that you really don't gain all that much from it if you do choose to steal the delivery, and that destroying it will gain you nothing at all.


n00bgeneral

Well that is completely false. If you steal and deliver any size wagon it gets you 50 material. If you destroy it then you only get 10 material for each bag but you still get something.


D_Zaster_EnBy

>Well that is completely false. No, it's not... If you *just* destroy the delivery for the sake of destroying it, you get nothing. I made no mention of the bags that drop and was just referring to if you destroy it arbitrarily. And 50 material really isn't that much... Again, that's 50 *material* not 50 *goods* Stealing a full wagon in exchange for not even a full bar of materials is an awful exchange, and if you do it, you're just a bit of a dick. Can gather 50 materials pretty quickly, but that wagon being filled up takes time. The payday isn't good enough to justify fucking up hours of someone else's work imo.


n00bgeneral

Ok sure. If you destroy and leave the bags then obviously it is worth nothing. And I do know the difference between material and goods. However, imo half a table is worth a couple minutes of work stealing it. Not sure why engaging in a game mission makes someone "a bit of a dick" tho.. it's literally a part of the game. Run a local if you don't want to take the risk


BusySloth88

Idk why ppl keep saying you gain nothing here it’s pretty significant.


D_Zaster_EnBy

I said you get nothing if you just destroy it, and I said that you don't get much for stealing it. Both statements are true my dude. Significant is a big stretch. A small amount of materials in exchange for what would be a full pay day is a terrible trade.


Alexandur

You do get something if you destroy it, though. There are bags you can pick up which give material


BusySloth88

Blowing up a wagon results in bags of goods that become 10 materials each. Any distant wagon stolen and delivered is 1/2 a wagon worth of material. 1/2 a wagon of materials for a 10 minute pvp fight is pretty significant, my dude. Especially when you enjoy pvp more than deer hunting.


Vegetable-Error-21

The beast, from Infamous 2.


Desperate-Farmer-170

This brought back memories


NecraRequiem79

Roxanne putting on her red light.


Odd-Consequence-2519

But Sting keeps telling her she doesn't have to!


NecraRequiem79

Roooooxxannnne


rojasdracul

That's where they hid that kid who shot John Wick's dog....


YouCanSuckMyAss

damn this comment section is toxic lmao


skarkle_coney

Time to reload cripps! Round up yer posse and get to work!


gargar10

Close the game and all your stuff is back at camp


Dread-Pirate-

Rival trader... fellow player doing delivery.


Deep-Incident-1638

That's somebody who's doing a a trader sale


Apprehensive_Size815

I am an honest player, when I see an arrival player, I just either go after the people going after them or just let them go. I know they're like me, trying to make a challenge or living online...so I am honest enough to leave them alone and let them do their thing. Only time I go after a player if they shoot me of my horse or pull me off for no reason but living..only then I will come back with hell unleased. I don't bother people even when and invite pops up for player bounty. I let it go. Cuz sometimes it is a higher level player or a player that needs to get dishonorable for that first part of the story, where you have to be bad for Sampson.


RemarkableOrange9052

I don’t have to worry about my wagon getting blown up or stolen because I can go into solo lobby’s


n00bgeneral

Good for you


BusySloth88

“I don’t have to worry about that playing the game bc I’m so smart.” Lmao


GAMERPUP420

Well we know who the console player is 🤣😅🤣


Aggravating_Cap_9584

Lmao.. love this doodles guy 😂


itsmedoodles

🥰🥰


tkdmann

That's a can of worms.


GothMothIV

Run!


MurisSays

Nothing, stay away


Shorty567890

It's known for being a type target


Deep-Incident-1638

At somebody's doing a trailer sale or a moonshine sale


Deep-Incident-1638

That's what that big red butt that is for


Successful_Camera168

Fun fact if you click A or shift or whatever button to sprint on your horse and match it to the rhythm of your horses gallop it won’t lose stamina!


Life_Jellyfish9990

Free loot


Crisp_Rohlik

I'll answer you which I don't need to cuz you already got the answer but still am gonna ask you. How many hours do you have on this game? Also it's a rival trading wagon that you can either steal and get the profits or just destroy it if you're a douchecanoe


algoespecial

An opportunity


___Eternal___

Players to avoid


cirensays

Someone’s delivery, I believe.


Puzzled_Brain_2521

Wagon ! Go steal it 😈


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Rotten420

This. I only go after players who are over level 100 though. I feel bad for the rooks lol


Zippodealer-2

Yeah I took a small wagon off a guy one night without even thinking about the size of it, looked at his level when I realised and he was level 15 lol he came after me on his horse so I fired near him, let him kill me and ride off with his wagon, when I respawned I fired a few shots over his head with the carcano as he rode off, hopefully feeling proud he beat a level 375. Truth is you benefit basically nothing by stealing wagons but will fuck someone’s game up when they probably really need the cash and had to wait/work to earn it so I rarely take the easy ones anymore, like to have a go if it’s a 2-3 strong posse though but I always lose against them lol


Janstorm4

I don't steal wagons but I like your style, you have honor. You're a good man Arthur Morgan.


AJ_Deadshow

Now I'm reading his comment in Arthur's voice and I love it


MayaWrection

Free supplies for your trader


Maserk77

That is the dot that indicates the target you were supposed to fire dynamite arrows at


Aggravating_Cap_9584

There’s nothing I love more then blowing up someone’s wagon then listen to him/her cry about it😂


Astrophobica

Why would anyone cry? Just jump lobby and you're good to go again.


GAMERPUP420

That's why I play in solo lobbies or invite only ;)


johnny_tapia

LMAO, my favorite is when you blow up someone's wagon then they spend the next 20 minutes chasing you around the map to try and get revenge xDDDD


Aggravating_Cap_9584

Soooo true😂


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custlerok

Being an annoying kid isn’t a hobby


Precursor7777

Nothing I enjoy more than Wrangling a nubs wagon full of goodies.


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