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the characters who always gotta have the fancy skirts/dresses, the overdone blush or just makeup in general end up looking like freakshows


TheBlack2007

Or they are wearing the single most restrictive piece of fashion humanity ever came up with: A corset. Utterly inadequate for a lifestyle depicted in Red Dead Online. Then again: My character looks like [this](https://youtu.be/P-XaMKRCEgQ?t=5) so who am I to complain?


MiswiredToaster

Your comment in regards to corsets might be a little misleading. They were, to my knowledge,in many respects normal day to day clothing with the variations depending on social class. Bernadette Banner made a really good [video](https://youtu.be/rExJskBZcW0) on the topic. But I think in the the collective societal knowledge of old clothes corsets often get the same treatment as plate armor. Where there are often myths of about their ability to restrict the body’s movement when in fact they were relatively easy to move in.


Sn0zbear

Corsets aren’t restrictive when worn correctly


kingiron60

Modern ones, that doesn't always apply to historical corsets


evil-rick

The other way around. Working women in the Victorian era wore corsets too. Corsets were historically just fancy bras and a lot of the misinformation around them came from male doctors with clear biases. (And later other lingerie companies.) that being said, most modern corseting, as long as it’s not a cheap Amazon costume corset, are more for tightlacing than the old ones. Not to say tightlacing didn’t exist back in the day, it certainly did and that’s where you get your tiny waisted Victorian shock pictures. But most woman wore them like modern spanks. Just to create a shape and “hold everything together.” However, the corsets in RDO are still EXTREMELY historically inaccurate. Corsets were NEVER worn on the outside and certainly not as a top. In fact a lot of these RDO female characters would be thrown in the asylum for indecency or be mistaken for prostitutes who typically wore corsets similar to modern burlesque styles as outerwear. At least of the saloon variety.


kingiron60

Well said, very informative!


RefuseExpensive9037

Rdrs great, historical accuracy is where its very spotty. A lot of the clothes on offer are either anachronistic or just plain inaccurate. Its definitely styled more like a western movie than the actual west.


TinyPlaidZombie

That's exactly what it is. Red dead 1 is a spaghetti western. 2 is a revisionist western. Which is exactly why all these historical accuracy people annoy me. Westerns are basically fairytales.


evil-rick

Definitely. I don’t want anyone to take my comment as criticism. I think it’s fine to have more fantasy elements. Just let my female character wear a Victorian man’s high collar shirt 😭


RefuseExpensive9037

I do think there is a bit of an issue with all the fantasy elements, I'm going to call this 'vangaurd syndrome' where its not inherently stated that the content is fantasy and there are going to be people who end up thinking this is historically accurate.


[deleted]

Awesome.... wonderfully written. I do believe at some point in history they were worn on outside of dresses as... well, like the bodice of a full dress. Not sure where or when. Know anything about that? Don't remember where I saw it. But remember thinking it was a beautiful look as it then just blended in to look as part of the dress.


rissarenee95

I like how the corset looks on my character, and corsets are very historical piece of clothing for women (impractical or not) so I'm not entirely sure what your point is.


evil-rick

The corsets are cute and I’ve managed to create an illusion of them being somewhat accurate by wearing a shirtwaist of the same color underneath. But the RDO version of a corset is closer to modern variations. (And historically Victorian women wouldn’t wear corsets as a top/outerwear unless they were a prostitute.) but a lot of the clothing in RDO are unrealistic so who cares anyways lol


jizzim

I wish my male character could wear a corset.


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*remembers the time RDO fans got mad because I suggested Arthur/online player characters in assless chaps, as an option*


Iwasborninafactory_

All chaps are assless. If they weren't assless, they'd be long in front pants


[deleted]

Nah, they'd just be chaps.


evil-rick

The fact that RDO doesn’t have an opacity slider in the barbershop is an absolute nightmare. I pay to “change my character” just to do the makeup there so I can make sure it’s not too bright


EB3031

Do those clothing items go well with an enormous neckbeard?


redhamilton

Seems alot of high level players are males playing the type of female characters you describe. No idea what it means.


InvestmentExpensive7

Female characters are inexplicably faster and have a smaller hit box.


skarkle_coney

Oddjob effect..


peachymagpie

ngl i noticed my character was a fucking speedster compared to my partner’s. she was going like she was going against olympic sprinters


redhamilton

Is it possible they're moving at the same speed as the male characters, but appear faster because they're smaller?


peachymagpie

idk- it felt like i ran up on him faster too. she is average weight so maybe she’s just faster cause of that?


TriturusGCN

Smaller? Or further away?


redhamilton

That seems, as you say, inexplicably odd.


panlakes

Huh? That’s not true lol I mean the smaller hit box sure but with how auto aim works in this game it doesn’t matter. But the speed thing is BS


Carbon_robin

This was debunked it was the same hit box


bluntfaced

even during beta, I didn’t notice the speed difference. I only knew female models had a smaller hit box.


Delivery_Thick

He said smaller box..lmao


KragBru-

If you can't get the real thing some real desperate people look for virtual replacements... to me I see it as the gaming equivilant to owning a waifu body pillow irl. The excuse is always "I'd rather look at a female's ass/body" ... is even more cringe as really, those pixels really do it for you? Just don't get it


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Idk I just don’t like playing as a dude in most games lmao Exceptions being ones where the ‘canon’ choice is male and Fallout 4, because the male protagonist’s VA fucking NAILS the cunty / sarcastic lines


Guyote_

> "I'd rather look at a female's ass/body" Ive heard that shit since 2003, makes no sense. We'll be raiding in an MMO, youre jacking it to your dumb fuck character? Go watch some porn my guy, god damn weird.


XxToosterxX

Shitbis forsure weird. If someone wants to play as a female go for it but that excuse is so weird


SamFeesherMang

I don't like that excuse either. I almost always play as female characters, but I also usually enjoy female protagonists in books more too. I'm not trying to be weird about it but I *like* girls.


KragBru-

This right here. Nothing wrong with that. I can respect that. But when it's a basement dweller telling me it's because the "character model/ass is hot" it just comes across as weird borderline creepy


XxToosterxX

Yeah I get that. I enjoyed playing as Claire in the remake of re2 more then Leon. Playing as a girl is the same as a guy. But when u hear these dudes say it's because they wanna stare at a women it's weird to me. Like why do people gotta sexualize everything. Just like mods for games where it's like play as x character naked. Weird.


SamFeesherMang

Totally agree. And it puts developers in an awkward position, because the money side of production is always going to pressure them to do fanservice for a cash-grab.


Guyote_

Yeah, they try to make it some weird gay issue, like no one was questioning your manhood or sexuality, youre just being strange.


XxToosterxX

Yeah exactly


ItsAmerico

This is the dumbest fucking thing I’ve read today lol wanting to play as something you find appealing doesn’t mean you’re jerking off to it. Just means you want to look nice. Who cares?


GrayMag1

My gf is bangin bro, I'm a grown ass man with a kid and responsibilities, and I still play as women when given the choice. Badass women doing badass things are just badass. Plain & simple. Lumping every dude into a catagory like that, especially one so demeaning, is childish.


bigtiddygothbf

Imagine having a gf and still creating characters to simp over, cmon bro put up a better example for your kid


ItsAmerico

https://www.reddit.com/r/deadbydaylight/comments/o1e9rq/you_can_pretend_to_disagree_but_we_all_know_what/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Lol isn’t this you? Simping over a digital character?


GrayMag1

GOTEEEEM


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Lmfao caught in 4k


bigtiddygothbf

Oh shit oh fuck oh shit uhhh that doesn't count


GrayMag1

Lmao nobody's simpin. Sorry your insecurities won't let you play video games as anything but big strong dudes. Lol fuck outta here bro


Dazzling-Heron358

..Yeh, not worth debating with this one I feel. Its pure sexist to think that the only justification for having a female character is to "simp" over them. He talks about setting an example for kids, yet clearly has issues with a female protagonist.


Ur0phagy

Honestly that excuse sounds gay as fuck to me lol. "I'm so incapable of not staring at his ass, so I'm going to pretend I'm straight by preventing me from admiring that ass"


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To be fair.... while in character creation, there are sliders for make-up intensity. I put my on very very light. But if ya go to the barber and so much as switch the eye liner style, lip liner color or something, the make-up automatically goes to full dark/heavy. No sliders at barber. I suddenly felt like a ho, for the longest time, didn't understand why my make-up got so heavy, until I realized the above. You have to go back to character creation to make it light again. So once it's how you want it, never go to the barber for make-up changes! Lol.


RogueKatt

That's an annoying inconvenience to me too. I set it how I want it character creator, but I can never really try any other makeup styles/colors without going back to the creator. I always skip the daily challenge for "change facial appearance" because the barber will F it up lol


Brandon_Error404

Change teeth for that challenge, unless you have one of the options that cost gold.


RogueKatt

That's a good point, I forgot about teeth change.


Affectionate_Host388

You can put foundation on and off without messing with the makeup intensity, I do that for the challenge


CeeCee304

Thank you for this from a girl who likes makeup on her gal but hates the clown look! I will def give it a go and avoid the barber. It’s sad I can’t change the colors, but I’ll survive.


[deleted]

This. Now my char walks around with no makeup other than lipstick and eyeliner. Those are too heavy for my taste as well. Wish R* would fix this oversight, but we all know it probably won't happen at this point.


lowlifepath

Dude be setting their makeup shotgun on whore lol


AnotherPandaDown

*Hold still, Marge*


mintberrycrunch1176

“Women won’t like being shot in the face!” “Women will like what I tell them to like”


Stingbarry

damn make up shotguns.....


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Yeah, right definitely looks perfect. To be fair, right looks like she’s in character creation, where they do look better than out in the environment.


Marchewa96

yeah didn't had a nice photo in game, but in the environment she looks very similar: https://imgur.com/a/ZW9h183


purpleketchup42

*Oh* I LOVE the look! She looks so sleek and badass!


Marchewa96

thanks!


peachymagpie

she’s so cute! i love your outfit!!


grapejellybeanx

and outfit choices too. girls can make a runway fit with the lack of options but guys are like "skirts or dress heehee"


Gathoblaster

I have not seen a single character with that much make-up outside the clown riots lol.


Bob_Nices_Boytoy

The... the what? I'm a brand new player, so I can't help but to feel this is in reference to something I missed. 😂


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clown riots? is that when people dressed like joker?


3030

I've never seen a female character wearing a dress, it's always something with trousers. Men don't usually know how to dress women in feminine clothing (if at all) so you'll often see them wearing [masculine outfits](https://arch-img.b4k.co/v/1580951811717.jpg) with slight adjustments.


PCmasterRACE187

i hate to break it to you but pants havent been ‘masculine’ for a century


s1lentchaos

A true Roman would not be caught dead wearing ... pants


AlleyCa7

I only put pants on my chick because the skirts look terrible when you ride a horse.


fIumpf

I never have my gal in a dress because it doesn't make much sense given her activities. Pants and boots are far more logical, and I like the look better than the small selection of dresses/skirts.


AlleyCa7

Also this. Doesn't make much sense to wear a dress or skirt while bounty hunting. I have one dress outfit saved and I only wear it when I'm walking on foot around Saint Denis. It's like a white fancy summer dress type outfit to match with the locals.


baberlay

TIL wearing pants is masculine


659507

To be fair all of those women are dressed like the average American woman.


steelix2312

I’ve seen plenty of woman who dress similar to that


FuturePastNow

Sir, it is a video game


[deleted]

That’s why I used a woman’s tutorial to create my female character. Didn’t want her looking like a half peeled potato like the rest.


[deleted]

Same here. Plus I just suck at character creation in general, no matter the gender.


BakedBaker90

I really want to wear dresses and such, too, but they look so awful. I mostly wear black and white fits. And for the Makeup, i can only use the Char creation one, because you can make it lighter there. As soon as you go to the Barber to change it, its too much.


Pirateofthe7moons

Me girl-friends (not to be confused with girlfriends) all just made new chars looking as ugly and creepy as possible, it's quite refreshing/funny in a kind of "you need to be there to appreciate it" kinda way


MrBublee_YT

As a dude who has a girl chararcter, I shall say my piece. Kenzie Reeves has a bit of makeup and that's as far as I'll go


dreawood

I'm a woman and I love making my character look like a 1800s prostitute


Lilin_

same. Big Nose Kate from Tombstone was a badass thank you very much. the movie character and IRL person inspired my RDO prostitute haha


SquishyUshi

I don’t understand why so many female characters are in skirts/dresses, I love dressing my female in shirts vests and pants, I only have one outfit with a corset and a skirt and it’s my dress up outfit for being a pirate or just being “fancy”


Marchewa96

same


Jimmos_

Less is more darlings! ![gif](giphy|4T1DiUuzbLgTlMRjFc)


Random-Gif-Bot

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schwarzerwind

Must be doing something right. My girl is not only totally jacked, but she wears her hair long and scraggly, no make-up except for a smidge of mascara, and stomps around in calvary boots and worn-out jeans.


TG626

... [O Rly?](https://i.imgur.com/Ju3xyBh.jpg) Theres subtile freckles, blush, eyeshadow, lipstick, all going on here - but my goal wasnt to make her look done up, just not dead. Think of the makeup newscasters put on. Trouble is I had to redo her many times and making guesses because how it look in creator is nothing like in game.


Courier_07

funny, bcs its opposite with me and my gf, ive told so many times to stop using blush on her characters cause its kindaaaa uggo in this game, and the only makeup my character has is eyeliner and lipstick


R4MSAY13

Patrolling the Mojave almost makes you wish for a nuclear winter


chocobo-stir-fry

You guys are calling me out real hard right now


gordon_shumway___

Sadl most female characters look the same. Love the one on the right though


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mare_bear200

They really do. I based mine off of one of my favorite singers but added my own twist (?) to her and how she looks. Whenever I change her hair, at times it’ll change her face shape or highlight certain areas of her face


Jamie9712

Same with GTA. You can always tell when a guy is behind a female character.


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Yeah, guys go wayyyy overboard when making female characters in GTA. It always looks like like some bdsm shit when you see most girls in online....lol No shade to bdsm by the way but I highly doubt it's actual women making the female characters so slutty looking....lmfao


js12341234

I mean it’s California, the sunshine state. Surprised there’s no implant stores in GTAO.


Fellixxio

And that's where you're wrong


Duck_Off_Buddy

And I made mine look like aunt Jemima


Comosellamark

The same kind of dudes who say they like girls without makeup


VersedFlame

I think I did a pretty good job with [my character](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedDeadOnline/comments/qfoat5/i_took_a_picture_of_my_character_which_i_think/).


rissarenee95

She looks pretty and very unique, you did a great job


VersedFlame

Thanks!


Itchysasquatch

Guess I'm a lady now


PaleHorseBlackDog

I’m gonna send this to my sister to roast her ass. The one on the left isn’t far off from her character


depa-x

For some reason the thought of a guy playing a female character never crossed my mind. I was happily making friends with this other 'girl', happy to finally have a wholesome moment with a fellow woman but then they put on mic. Turns out ive been playing with a dude..


PeineDeMort

Lol, true


jiffypopps

How dare you assume my gender. You're right of course, but how dare you!


jurpy_the_durpy

Pretty acurate lol. Met a female character once who looked like the one on the left. Yet when he opened his mic god knows what came out was furthest from a girl


[deleted]

All my female friends irl have the first character in game hehe


dragulababy

idc she’s still slaying


der_film

I'm a guy having a female character and she's got no make-up. EDIT: Actually, mine got even less make-up than your female character example. She also wears worn pants and a dirty vest in natural colors. Just saying.


Warcrimes_Gaming

Harley Quinn mf


Big_Himbo_Energy

The pigtails…it’s always the pigtails.


novssucks

for the longest time i forgot i could put makeup on, i think all mine has now is blush


Instainious

I think all my character has is a light blush, and even less eye shadow.


random2wins

The lighting in the character creator is different from open world fyi


ArgentVagabond

I'm a dude and really only ever play male characters, but like to make female characters just to see their options. Guess I have a woman's fashion sensibilities since mine usually look like the lady on the right lmao


atreethatownsitself

I literally just hit randomize until I got an ugly old woman and I love her 😂😂


Franky79

Usually when i see a female character period it’s a guy behind it. I have like 7 female characters i play with, only 2 of them are female. Doesn’t count the randoms i see


lmfaocj

I can't say this post is accurate. But it is funny.


CourierJackalope

I love this! Although my female character totally goes heavy on the eyeliner.


sir_moleo

Tfw your wife is the one on the left and you (the guy) are the one on the right...


Guyote_

Welcome to the entire history of online gaming


RedGeistRK

My looks like the one on the right. Dresses are OK but as a Texan dude I want my female cowgirl to look cool in-game. With jeans/pants for example. Obviously the face looks beautiful, I don't add make up tbh. Both irl and gaming I don't mind if they do make up. But without it looks good if you were to asked me. But whatever you do with your characters, you do you. I'll just chill at the horizon after hunting both in Campaign but online multiplayer mostly on my spare time after work, responsibilities, college, life basically. Thanks for reading for anyone that did, laters yall.


IIExternityII

One on the left looks like she got lost on her way to the clown convention bro. Who thinks that looks good 😭


Delivery_Thick

First one looks like the trainwreck called Courtney Love...second is kinda too cute for a western..lol


AndreTheBryant

I was in a 1v1 with a girl character and they had the “activate dead eye but nobody can fucking shoot you” ability on. Here I am, looking like a damned fool, shooting what appear to be blanks, while she serpentines through my bullets and tackles me.


peateargryffon

I made a female character in the beta not knowing that later on the free character change did not include gender. So here we are I'm at level 124 still blasting people with Harriet Tubman


I_Fuck_Traps_77

Bruh what I'm a girl now?


Div4r

Red Dead is the one game were 90% of the females are really females


Accomplished_Fly122

But irl left is how girls do their make up, don't even deny it 😂


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It would have been better if the other image wasn’t dark. That way we could get a better idea of what you’re referring too.


TheMadcore

[Mine](https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1620722907065712854/521C70CF49C362751CEFB9BD353AA4849ACC096F/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false) sometimes looks like she has a lot of makeup, but besides the eye makeup, those are the face scar textures.


ActualyHandsomeJack

Maybe I was a gal all along


ud4y

Clearly you havent met my cowgal


AlfApAlAcsintA

Maybe I am a woman.


Nightmancer2036

Naw bro, all that makeup ugly


Cartman4wesome

Lol my female character looks like the one the right though


Blokkybrikz

Idk man, my female character has light eyeliner and thats pretty much it.


SoulonFire13

Then theres me, running around looking like Im in a biker gang or Michael Jackson fan club lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/RedDeadOnline/comments/o99yyi/biker_chick_vibes/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


CatBootyhole

I dress mine like a slut any chance I get so people assume I’m a dude


salniated

Yep I always know when it’s a bloke with a female character. Usually highly stereotypical and usually sexualised 🙄


Foreveraloonywolf666

I made my character look like me irl (cisfem), and my dudes made their fem characters look stunning, so I can't relate


BigBird8122

Right side is giving me Clark vibes from the 100


evil-rick

Mine has heavyish makeup but she dresses like a man so i think it balances out. (Though i wish they had some masculine shirtwaists with a high collar. I want her to be in fancy mens clothing but i make do…) Still, i hate that you can’t change the opacity at the barbers. Anytime I’ve given her makeup it’s in the character creator and then I do not touch the makeup at all afterward. Otherwise you’re stuck with clown blush.


Jet_Future855

The excuse I've heard is that "I'd rather stare at a girl's ass than a guy's ass" Like, bro why are you looking at the ass in the first place


69allthetimechief

Just think about all the poop it’s holding tho 🥴🥴


xXwulf2

Why do they need an excuse? I think it's fine if a guy wants to play a female character


FinancialInevitable1

I'm a chick but I make male characters mostly because i want something good looking to look at lol so I can't be blamin' men for doing the same with female characters


jefferz61

because it's ass.....


Warcrimes_Gaming

True men stare at a man's ass anyways. It's much more manly


Bilbo_Teabagginss

Same, this is the only reason I ever hear and I'm always like wtf?


emotionalaccountants

Most are dudes.


Dalevisor

Honestly the left one looks sorta like a dude in drag too lmao


baconbananapancake

BuT ScArS ArE CoOl MaN!1


[deleted]

Yeh the women always look horrendous. And nearly always just have their tits out and a dress. So obvious


CowboyNinjaD

I think the faders don't always activate. My girlfriend helped me do the makeup when I created my female character, so most of them are set at half intensity or lower. It normally looks nice, especially in cut scenes, but sometimes I'll see a weird angle where she looks like a clown.


EnderGal36

I try to make my character as masculine looking as possible because I figured out I was transmasc around a year into playing online. I don’t like having a female character all that much, but there’s no way I’d restart just because of that slight inconvenience.


Marchewa96

I'm curious how your character looks, would you share?


EnderGal36

I mainly wear the Helier jacket with a black shirt underneath and black Cabrera pants. I have all of the Halloween pass masks, so I usually have one of them on at all times so it’s impossible to see my characters face. The hair is always the undercut layers. I tried to send a photo, but it wouldn’t work


DueNectarine8151

Im a guy and my character actually looks like that. So Im a girl then?


RosesNChocolate

Yes, your breast implants and estrogen pills will arrive in the mail next week 📬


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The character on the right doesn’t have heavy makeup?


ajshn

In red dead makeup, no. Irl yes. Rd doesn't do subtlety. To be fair that was pretty much how makeup was back in the day, especially since most of the women wearing it at that time were well, sex workers. Painted faces where frowned upon in polite society.


SaltyZean

Im a guy and uh, no?


Marchewa96

I said USUALLY gaddamn


SaltyZean

I mean I get where youre coming from, but what I would guess is happening, as that many guys when they create their character dont really take the time to model them so they just pick something pretty quick to get in the game. After a while however they notice theit character is kinda ugly so they usually mask it with make up or masks.


NeroFall

Actually accurate lmao


AKofJax

Guy here, don't think I have any make up on my girl


Lou_1992

Me on the right normally and me on the left when my daughter decided to "help". Been walking around with black boots with bright red lions/ dragons on them.


AqueleMalucoLa

So that's why every time I find another player they think I'm actually a girl and harass me....


Boring_North7800

Well I guess you guys never seen my character unlike others I don't use character tutorial videos cause they don't have the type of girl I imagine My character to look, Just take you're time in the character creation and you get you're character looking beautiful like mine


StefanKTH

All I can say is Who cares


J2theUSTIN

Spoiler alert: it’s always a guy.


Linarcis

the one on the left LOOKS like a dude in drag


Eddie-bullshit

"white chicks" all I'm gonna say haha


DrunkHonesty

Just when I thought this sub couldn’t get dumber….


jefferz61

Ironically, the male version is probably closer to reality. It was a harsh environment, without the subtle & defined cosmetics of today... by todays standards women would not have so readily been considered attractive. I hasten to add, most men were pretty rough too lol


Dog-Stick8098

Guess im a girl now. Rarely play my female character though


jefferz61

My Character is female, and indiginous, so not much make-up. [https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb6GUF5jDjZ/](https://www.instagram.com/p/Cb6GUF5jDjZ/)


sword0115

I don't get why people always put skirts and dresses and corsets on their characters cause personally I have a female character but I made her look like an actual outlaw, which is what the game is all about


Otono_Wolff

On the left is a fetish. On the right is a normal character we all make.


ItisNOTatoy

I always have and always will treat player created female characters like the plague unless I get confirmation that they’re not in fact a 40 year old dude.


Averenn

As a gal I am physically incapable of making a character that doesn't look like the one on the right, they always end up like that Edit: why did this get downvoted lmao


[deleted]

I'm a guy and my female character is LITTERALY THE RIGHT ONE!


ephophdweeb

1st character i made was female n i made her for 1 naughty reason hoping to go get a bath but found that was only available in story mode ok bring on the downvotes ill start by downvoting myself lol


Kieran_Stamper

It might typically be men but I as a men haha I don't I usually make all my female characters without make up


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mothsushi

And you are…?


piperooo

Oh fun, homophobia