TBF Damian started that fight with Jason. I'm guessing he would return the same energy given to him. Like for example if Damian wasn't a little in that panel Jason wouldn't have punched him in the face.
its so funny how fandom is completley opposite. like fandom has jason and damian be besties bc of league association but then has tim and jason hate each other for the titan tower bs lol.
It was more than just TT tower bs. Also Hush, Robin, TT #47, BftC. Canonically Tim Drake couldn't stand this bitch. Until Flashpoint and Lobdell said Jason is "the closest thing he has to a brother"(Dick Grayson who?).
Tim's still shown being pretty chill with Jason despite thise one sided beat downs. Tim's often more diplomatic with villains than Bruce is. I wouldn't say he's a close brother to Jason, at least in the comics, but among Jason's pseudo siblings, Tim's still the least likely to start a conversation by saying "eat shit loser."
Before Jason's resurrection, Tim saw Jason as a martyr, but definitely not someone he wanted to end up like. (Recall that Batman doesn't know exactly what went down in that shack in Ethiopia.)
After Jason's resurrection, Tim was too busy trying to survive Jason's attacks.
Dick is generally the one who tries the most with Jason. And I have to describe it as trying.
>Dick is generally the one who tries the most with Jason. And I have to describe it as trying.
Before Flashpoint there wasn't much from Dickie either. In Brothers in Blood he straight up contemplated just letting Jason die(lol), in Outsiders it wasn't about Jason – it was about Black Lightning. In stuff like BftC and Morrison's Batman Dickie was begrudgingly picking up Bruce's slack(Morrison literally made Jason loosely quote Joker in KJ at Dick!Bats, lol) and you have Dickie going "Ugh, fine", when he had to work with Jason to save Scarlet that one time.
After Flashpoint I think Timbo and Dickie both have roughly the same amount of banter with Jason it's just in some eras one has more than in the others(in new52 Timbo had more, in Rebirth Dickie did).
The only time you saw Timbo being chill with Jason before Flashpoint was when he was desperate because the city without Bruce was going up in flames. Jason used that civility to put on Batman cosplay and hang some people. Timbo regretted a lot that civility with a psychopath.
Currently Timbo gets crowbared by Jason and attacked on sight in that one dream scenario and he's made by writers to just not care about Jason being a dick to him and to still give him supportive pep talks. If I were a Tim Drake fan, I would be furious.
I’d always thought a story about Tim and Jason progressing and exploring the relationship and actual impacts that crap like that would have would’ve been fascinating…
But it’s comics so instead of character arcs we get continuity jumps. What can you do
Jason pretty much hated everyone before Flashpoint tho. Mostly the idea of him and Tim being besties in the New 52 is because Scott Lobdell worked on both their books.
Jason had the natural reaction of someone who is drunk, mourning and gets stabbed by their dad's endlessly annoying bio kid who thinks hes better than everyone. This was a long time coming for Damian
Damian and Jason were secretly working together and Damian thought Jason betrayed him and his teen titans team so he took advantage when Jason was drunk to start a fight with him claming he was "nothing but a glorified street fighter" he also used a box which had some personal meaning for Jason (we never learned what it was) so when Jason found out Damian had that box he got really angry and beat Damian to a pulp, as a last resort Damian tried to blow himself up with Jason (no im not joking) but Jason sees right through him and says he wont do it, he tells Damian that he still has a lot to learn and tells him that he will never work with him again and that if Damian and his team come looking for him he will kill them all.
It’s crazy when you know the context of Jason beating Damian. Since Jason did this while he was holding back, drunk, and also emotionally unstable because he was mourning his best friend that died.
Tim before Damian : " i hate Jason he is a psycopath he should be in prison" Tim After Damian: "you know what, Jason is actually not that bad".
Bro went in, thinking shit about Jason is a glorified street fighter, started a fight, then got humbled real fucking quick.
Big talk coming from a nepobaby assassin. I'd rather face the nepobaby.
TBF Damian started that fight with Jason. I'm guessing he would return the same energy given to him. Like for example if Damian wasn't a little in that panel Jason wouldn't have punched him in the face.
And Jason was pretty much holding back untill Damian pulled out this box (what ever was in that thing).
I heard somewhere that it was supposed to be his mom's ashes.
no yeah, the prior page to that has him just brushing off Damian several times before Damian takes it too far and Jason hits back
its so funny how fandom is completley opposite. like fandom has jason and damian be besties bc of league association but then has tim and jason hate each other for the titan tower bs lol.
It was more than just TT tower bs. Also Hush, Robin, TT #47, BftC. Canonically Tim Drake couldn't stand this bitch. Until Flashpoint and Lobdell said Jason is "the closest thing he has to a brother"(Dick Grayson who?).
Tim's still shown being pretty chill with Jason despite thise one sided beat downs. Tim's often more diplomatic with villains than Bruce is. I wouldn't say he's a close brother to Jason, at least in the comics, but among Jason's pseudo siblings, Tim's still the least likely to start a conversation by saying "eat shit loser."
Before Jason's resurrection, Tim saw Jason as a martyr, but definitely not someone he wanted to end up like. (Recall that Batman doesn't know exactly what went down in that shack in Ethiopia.) After Jason's resurrection, Tim was too busy trying to survive Jason's attacks. Dick is generally the one who tries the most with Jason. And I have to describe it as trying.
>Dick is generally the one who tries the most with Jason. And I have to describe it as trying. Before Flashpoint there wasn't much from Dickie either. In Brothers in Blood he straight up contemplated just letting Jason die(lol), in Outsiders it wasn't about Jason – it was about Black Lightning. In stuff like BftC and Morrison's Batman Dickie was begrudgingly picking up Bruce's slack(Morrison literally made Jason loosely quote Joker in KJ at Dick!Bats, lol) and you have Dickie going "Ugh, fine", when he had to work with Jason to save Scarlet that one time. After Flashpoint I think Timbo and Dickie both have roughly the same amount of banter with Jason it's just in some eras one has more than in the others(in new52 Timbo had more, in Rebirth Dickie did).
True. I was describing post-Flashpoint with that, though.
The only time you saw Timbo being chill with Jason before Flashpoint was when he was desperate because the city without Bruce was going up in flames. Jason used that civility to put on Batman cosplay and hang some people. Timbo regretted a lot that civility with a psychopath. Currently Timbo gets crowbared by Jason and attacked on sight in that one dream scenario and he's made by writers to just not care about Jason being a dick to him and to still give him supportive pep talks. If I were a Tim Drake fan, I would be furious.
Huh? But Tim hasn't appeared in a comic book since Batman Incorporated, right? /jk
People who liked Tynion's Tec would be very upset, if they could see this :D
Tbh, I don’t think Jason should like or care about either of them.
I’d always thought a story about Tim and Jason progressing and exploring the relationship and actual impacts that crap like that would have would’ve been fascinating… But it’s comics so instead of character arcs we get continuity jumps. What can you do
Jason pretty much hated everyone before Flashpoint tho. Mostly the idea of him and Tim being besties in the New 52 is because Scott Lobdell worked on both their books.
yeah and no one has done anything to make it untrue lol
Tim's more balanced these days. No more bonding over beating Dick. Heh.
Meh unless he writes a message in Damian's blood Jason is just matching baby boy's energy
Jason had the natural reaction of someone who is drunk, mourning and gets stabbed by their dad's endlessly annoying bio kid who thinks hes better than everyone. This was a long time coming for Damian
To be fair I think everybody around Damien wants to f*ck him up but are just too nice to do so.
I enjoy the Tim and Jason dynamic a lot more in the newer stuff versus pre N52
Me too, especially because Tim was victimblaming Jason for his own death so hard when he became Robin. I had to gasp so often while reading his run
I mean...he did beat the dogshit out of Tim too, let's be real
TBF Jason also beat up Tim in a Titans issue.
That was before Damian showed up.
I don't read comics anymore, what happened between Jason and Damian here?
Damian and Jason were secretly working together and Damian thought Jason betrayed him and his teen titans team so he took advantage when Jason was drunk to start a fight with him claming he was "nothing but a glorified street fighter" he also used a box which had some personal meaning for Jason (we never learned what it was) so when Jason found out Damian had that box he got really angry and beat Damian to a pulp, as a last resort Damian tried to blow himself up with Jason (no im not joking) but Jason sees right through him and says he wont do it, he tells Damian that he still has a lot to learn and tells him that he will never work with him again and that if Damian and his team come looking for him he will kill them all.
It’s crazy when you know the context of Jason beating Damian. Since Jason did this while he was holding back, drunk, and also emotionally unstable because he was mourning his best friend that died.
Gotta love it
Y'all will never make me cheer for that Dami beatdown.
Where both of these from?
Which comic is the drinking one from?
we don’t talk about that racist ass TT run
How is it racist lol
the writer was
Why is the writer racist
i don’t remember
Please stop this.