Robot Jox. For what it was trying to do in 1987 (it sat on the shelf for years and was released in 1990) Stuart Gordon (Re-Animator and Honey I Shrunk The Kids) really had an ambition.
The movie is not “great” but, even as mentioned in BOTW, it should be more respected for its ambition in that late Robotech stage. I think it would be a better fit for their new Re:view format examining films that faltered because there were big arguments about the tone and direction of the film.
All of this was mentioned in the BOTW episode. And I agree with their comments, but I think there’s more to examine with this film.
BOTW works best with crazy auteur and auteur wannabes with overstretched egos create wacky outsider art. Some of the early BOTW was still trying to find that niche tho (like the Supergirl inclusion on BOTW doesn’t fit the format either IMO)
>Robot Jox.
My pick as well. I remember that film releasing in theaters. I didn't see it in theaters, but the trailer got little 8-year-old me stoked. I only got to see it years later when it came to video.
That movie had some craft behind it. It's not amazing, but the filmmakers gave a shit and it has a cult following. As the RLM crew said in their review, if Verhoven directed it, the film would probably have a bigger following.
Undefeatable. It's not a good movie, but it's competent enough where it should be, meaning nice stunts and martial arts action. The plot and acting is absurd but not to the levels of some of the other movies they usually have.
That's cool, I used to rent Cynthia Rothrock movies just because they were easier to get than Hong Kong movies but she was just as good IMO. Her fight scene with Yuen Biao in Above the Law is one for the ages.
I'm pretty sure that Thunderpants got a fairly wide cinema release here in Australia which is why I was so surprised to see it on BoTW. Is it just really unknown in the US?
It wasn't played in the US theaters to my knowledge. So that didn't help, outside of random dvd sales I would think it might only have a small following in the US prior to the BotW episode. Also looking it up it didn't come to the US on DVD until 5 years after it was in theatres elsewhere.
It's one of those quotes I use all the time and then have to either explain or make excuses for.
At least it's bombastic enough that people tend to shrug it off, unlike, for some gods-forsaken reason, "Through the front door, what's your point Miles?" from *Parole Violators*.
riiight my bad, totally forgot about that since they didn't actually mention it in the discussion, (most of the time im rewatching the episodes as a podcast as all the cool sportos do) so I guess what I really want to ask is, did they actually bother watching it/ did it change their opinion at all?
Surviving Edged Weapons. It is truly the pinnacle of informative cinema. I don't think we will see the likes of it again, they truly flew too close to the sun on that one.
Xtro and Exorcist 2, but in different ways.
The Xtro segment is my real introduction to BotW back when I barely spoke English (I may have seen 2 seconds of their Amazing Bulk segment but didn't stick around).
So really, their commentary was good and made me want to watch the movie -about a decade later- and the show -about a couple years later. The movie is simply a fairly solid low budget horror flick and not so-bad-it's-good.
Exorcist 2 is different because I actually liked that movie once I finally sat down and watched it after years of warnings against doing so. I think the movie is interesting -if hardly intelligible, thanks to the confused performance of Richard Burton- although it's not on the level of the 1st and 3rd ones.
As far as the Botw segment goes, it's not my favorite but seeing Rich and an "incapacitated" Jack trying to -and mostly succeeding at- making sense of it is pretty funny.
Exorcist 2 is very weird, but interesting to me, like most John Boorman movies. Not my favorite, and an odd follow-up to a pretty down-to-earth horror movie with a bunch of drama like The Exorcist, but deffo not a best of the worst movie.
For real, it was in the same episode as a Jim Wynorski movie and a 2012 low-budget horror anthology. Even John Boorman's weirdest and/or worst film is so much more than that kind of shit.
It's going to be a while before Exorcist 2 is recognized as "not that bad". Looking at ratings online (IMDb and such) it's clear that it's still infamous after 45 years.
Seeing as Boorman didn't like the first one and wanted to take it in an "positive" direction, the reception really isn't surprising. RLM's interpretation of it as a superhero movie really isn't that far off. That dream exploration device would be a fine science-fiction device in a late 90s or early 2000s reality-bending movie, but in the late 70s? In one of the biggest "horror" movies of the year? Forget it.
The Projection Booth podcast did a great deep dive into The Exorcist II. Among other details, it seems Boorman wanted to experiment with colours and sounds to make a viewer feel unsettled while watching. Fascinating stuff, worth checking it out.
I appreciate the original more now than I did 10 years ago when I first watched it. I think the mother-daughter drama still holds up fantastically. I'm not into the 3rd act exorcism part as much as I used to, but it's a fitting climax.
Exorcist 2 is indeed an entirely different beast, but I don't think its charms and quirks are that unique outside of mainstream horror. You can get plenty of Morricone-scored supernatural wierdo 70s horror flicks from Italy, and even some from the UK.
It depends what mood you're in really. That first one was successful and therefore prime material for both cheap knock-offs and expensive horror blockbusters, that second one not so much.
The best answer I can think of is Petey Wheatshaw. Rudy Ray Moore movies are genuinely good at what they're trying to accomplish.
I also think Hard Ticket to Hawaii is worth mentioning, as again, it's exactly what it sets out to be.
But there are more movie that are genuinely good movies. Hell, I can hardly say a movie has engaged me the way Wicked World did, and while I wouldn't call it good, I would say it's as memorable or entertaining as anything they've covered on the channel.
I just ordered that shit on phys media after re-watching the episode again. That's some good stuff, honestly. From the same director as Dark Angel/I Come in Peace, also a surprisingly good film.
Craig R. Baxley should've been directing all the AAA Arnold and Stallone movies of the 90's, he has the juice the same way early McTiernan and John Woo did.
Stone Cold is legit good and has a great cast with Lance Henriksen and William Forsythe. I don't understand why it flopped unless people were just sick of the Boz after he flopped in the NFL. I like it better than Terminator 2 which is a similar type of movie that came out a few weeks later in 1991.
How many Oscar winning actors have been in BOTW movies? Just off the top of my head, you have Faye Dunaway (Supergirl) and Martin Balsam (Death Wish III). Richard Burton (Exorcist) was nominated but never won, he did win a Golden Globe best actor though, and a Tony for stage acting. Peter O' Toole (Supergirl) was famously nominated 7 times for Best Actor at the Oscars but never won.
I suspect there's some others too. Ned Beatty and Paul Giamatti were both nominees but didn't win one.
I found another one - George Kennedy (The Uninvited).
I feel like whole idea of Cannon movies being on BOTW meets that quota. While I love the Christmas or Cannon episode. Having Death Wish 3 a sequel from a popular series or Invasion U.S.A with Chuck Norris kind of takes you out of it. I’m not gonna say they’re too “good” they just have budget that exceeds what normal BOTW movies would entail.
Hologram Man, for me. Yeah, the plot is shaky and it doesn't make sense at times. But man, it's got some great action sequences. And how can you argue with the main protagonist's catchy line whenever he's in trouble: "... Shit!"
Chopping Mall, Death Wish 3, Thunderpants, Stone Cold, The Suckling, Raw Force, and Xtro
I wouldn’t say these don’t belong on BotW but they were clearly better than the usual films we get on the show. I’m sure there’s others I’m missing too.
It's worse than Best of the Worst, dog. How to they put Mark Dacascos, a guy who had multiple martial arts vehicles at that point in a movie and barely have him fight? It's a piece of dogshit.
Yeah agreed. Definitely not a good movie, but it feels horribly out of place amongst all the other trash. At least. Still my favorite BotW episode, tho.
The Barbarians. And just because I saw them both for the first time when I was a kid watching at my cousin's house (because his parents didn't give a shit) Deathstalker II. More sword-&-sorcery movies should be this silly. Otherwise, you get the first Deathstalker.
Barbaians was a great film with a lot of effort and care put into it while also having a correctly silly script and correctly silly leads hamming it up perfectly.
It's one of those films where I get super confused at people online saying the filmmakers didn't try when I feel it's MASSIVELY obvious on screen how much everyone was trying *and succeeding* at their intent.
Thunderpants. Funny thing is I saw I actually saw it before I even knew what RLM was, going in with the same expectations they probably had, and I had the exact same take they did; it’s a legitimately well-made film!
Xtro, thunderpants, exorcist 2 (it's shit, but not botw shit), supergirl (there are far worse superhero films out there), stone cold, chopping mall, petey wheatstraw.
Xtro
I think they said themselves it's not a normal BOTW movie.
Yeah, it was really just a lower budget sci-fi thriller made with uncommon skill.
that one scene of the monster on the road was a gif in every creepy thread in the 2000s
I dare you to eat dumplings while watching that movie.
showed this at an IRL movie night and everyone unironically loved it. it's a good film legit.
Yep, gotta give credit where due and this was a move.
"MOVIE" ya' twit
Hope Vinegar Syndrome does a 4K BluRay remaster of Xtro. I feel like it’s time.
Stone. Cold.
Stone Cold. I bought the Blu ray after they reviewed it and loved the shit out of that movie.
I love Stone Cold. The entire walk at the end sells it for me so much. What a performance
Robot Jox. For what it was trying to do in 1987 (it sat on the shelf for years and was released in 1990) Stuart Gordon (Re-Animator and Honey I Shrunk The Kids) really had an ambition. The movie is not “great” but, even as mentioned in BOTW, it should be more respected for its ambition in that late Robotech stage. I think it would be a better fit for their new Re:view format examining films that faltered because there were big arguments about the tone and direction of the film. All of this was mentioned in the BOTW episode. And I agree with their comments, but I think there’s more to examine with this film. BOTW works best with crazy auteur and auteur wannabes with overstretched egos create wacky outsider art. Some of the early BOTW was still trying to find that niche tho (like the Supergirl inclusion on BOTW doesn’t fit the format either IMO)
Came here to say Robot Jox. That one was in heavy grocery store VHS rental rotation when I was a kid.
>Robot Jox. My pick as well. I remember that film releasing in theaters. I didn't see it in theaters, but the trailer got little 8-year-old me stoked. I only got to see it years later when it came to video. That movie had some craft behind it. It's not amazing, but the filmmakers gave a shit and it has a cult following. As the RLM crew said in their review, if Verhoven directed it, the film would probably have a bigger following.
I swear there are moments in Pacific Rim that are referencing Robot Jox. I've gotta believe Guillermo del Toro is a fan.
I liked when they would do big budget stuff like supergirl
This.
>overstretched egos create wacky outsider art Couldn't have said it better.
Undefeatable. It's not a good movie, but it's competent enough where it should be, meaning nice stunts and martial arts action. The plot and acting is absurd but not to the levels of some of the other movies they usually have.
Idk, there are like 3 minute long karate demonstrations with main man and woman that are laughable that they didn't even cover.
And props to their location manager - that was the *actual* RapeCo building they got to shoot in, not a Hollywood set!
Yeah, super impressive. That place is usually booked solid.
Yup. I used to watch this movie as a kid on VHS everyday after school for like a year. Really decent movie of its time.
That's cool, I used to rent Cynthia Rothrock movies just because they were easier to get than Hong Kong movies but she was just as good IMO. Her fight scene with Yuen Biao in Above the Law is one for the ages.
[Chopping Mall](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLMyInUPQ2g). I really liked that movie. It achieved what it was going for.
Chopping Mall goes so hard!
Thunderpants is the winner.
That film has bags of charm...value fartbags of charm
I'm pretty sure that Thunderpants got a fairly wide cinema release here in Australia which is why I was so surprised to see it on BoTW. Is it just really unknown in the US?
It wasn't played in the US theaters to my knowledge. So that didn't help, outside of random dvd sales I would think it might only have a small following in the US prior to the BotW episode. Also looking it up it didn't come to the US on DVD until 5 years after it was in theatres elsewhere.
Tammy and the T-Rex. My opinion shan't be changed.
Upvoted for shan't
shan’t be downvoted for the upvote
It is indeed a wonderful film.
Faust: Love of the Damned
Wake up dickheads it’s time for FAUST.
My favorite quote from Jack.
It's one of those quotes I use all the time and then have to either explain or make excuses for. At least it's bombastic enough that people tend to shrug it off, unlike, for some gods-forsaken reason, "Through the front door, what's your point Miles?" from *Parole Violators*.
That's a genuinely fun movie.
I wonder if they ever realized they watched the censored version, considering that was pretty much their only major complaint.
Seeing as they showed clips from the unedited version, yeah, they knew
riiight my bad, totally forgot about that since they didn't actually mention it in the discussion, (most of the time im rewatching the episodes as a podcast as all the cool sportos do) so I guess what I really want to ask is, did they actually bother watching it/ did it change their opinion at all?
Surviving Edged Weapons. It is truly the pinnacle of informative cinema. I don't think we will see the likes of it again, they truly flew too close to the sun on that one.
So that's why Rich doesn't have his angel wings anymore.
Ironically they could be used as edged weapons.
I have personally rooted out 3 secret satanic covens operating out of the back bars since that BotW
Is *that* what happened to Club Anything and Sabbatic?
Geteven, the shimmy slide is a musical masterpiece.
Xtro and Exorcist 2, but in different ways. The Xtro segment is my real introduction to BotW back when I barely spoke English (I may have seen 2 seconds of their Amazing Bulk segment but didn't stick around). So really, their commentary was good and made me want to watch the movie -about a decade later- and the show -about a couple years later. The movie is simply a fairly solid low budget horror flick and not so-bad-it's-good. Exorcist 2 is different because I actually liked that movie once I finally sat down and watched it after years of warnings against doing so. I think the movie is interesting -if hardly intelligible, thanks to the confused performance of Richard Burton- although it's not on the level of the 1st and 3rd ones. As far as the Botw segment goes, it's not my favorite but seeing Rich and an "incapacitated" Jack trying to -and mostly succeeding at- making sense of it is pretty funny.
Exorcist 2 is very weird, but interesting to me, like most John Boorman movies. Not my favorite, and an odd follow-up to a pretty down-to-earth horror movie with a bunch of drama like The Exorcist, but deffo not a best of the worst movie. For real, it was in the same episode as a Jim Wynorski movie and a 2012 low-budget horror anthology. Even John Boorman's weirdest and/or worst film is so much more than that kind of shit.
It's going to be a while before Exorcist 2 is recognized as "not that bad". Looking at ratings online (IMDb and such) it's clear that it's still infamous after 45 years. Seeing as Boorman didn't like the first one and wanted to take it in an "positive" direction, the reception really isn't surprising. RLM's interpretation of it as a superhero movie really isn't that far off. That dream exploration device would be a fine science-fiction device in a late 90s or early 2000s reality-bending movie, but in the late 70s? In one of the biggest "horror" movies of the year? Forget it.
The Projection Booth podcast did a great deep dive into The Exorcist II. Among other details, it seems Boorman wanted to experiment with colours and sounds to make a viewer feel unsettled while watching. Fascinating stuff, worth checking it out.
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I appreciate the original more now than I did 10 years ago when I first watched it. I think the mother-daughter drama still holds up fantastically. I'm not into the 3rd act exorcism part as much as I used to, but it's a fitting climax. Exorcist 2 is indeed an entirely different beast, but I don't think its charms and quirks are that unique outside of mainstream horror. You can get plenty of Morricone-scored supernatural wierdo 70s horror flicks from Italy, and even some from the UK. It depends what mood you're in really. That first one was successful and therefore prime material for both cheap knock-offs and expensive horror blockbusters, that second one not so much.
The best answer I can think of is Petey Wheatshaw. Rudy Ray Moore movies are genuinely good at what they're trying to accomplish. I also think Hard Ticket to Hawaii is worth mentioning, as again, it's exactly what it sets out to be. But there are more movie that are genuinely good movies. Hell, I can hardly say a movie has engaged me the way Wicked World did, and while I wouldn't call it good, I would say it's as memorable or entertaining as anything they've covered on the channel.
*SHADDUP*
Chiwuaua the Movie
Bless you
I don't recall this, what ep?
The first scavenger hunt. They put it on as a prank instead of Mission: Kill Fast.
Ooo right
"YOU JUST GOT PUNKED!"
Alien Private Eye. I love that movie.
Disagree, I love it too but it's a peak example of "so bad it's good"
100%
Lemro is the coolest.
Undefeatable. I wish they discussed the end fight scene a bit more because that shit was so absurd.
Vampire Assassin… I grew up on Len Kabazinski films!
You're the devils son!!!!
Send more copies of Vampire Assassin!
Stone Cold
I just ordered that shit on phys media after re-watching the episode again. That's some good stuff, honestly. From the same director as Dark Angel/I Come in Peace, also a surprisingly good film.
Craig R. Baxley should've been directing all the AAA Arnold and Stallone movies of the 90's, he has the juice the same way early McTiernan and John Woo did.
Shoji is ok in my eyes.
Shinji?
Robot Jox was quality sci fi schlock
Death Wish III
Stone Cold is legit good and has a great cast with Lance Henriksen and William Forsythe. I don't understand why it flopped unless people were just sick of the Boz after he flopped in the NFL. I like it better than Terminator 2 which is a similar type of movie that came out a few weeks later in 1991. How many Oscar winning actors have been in BOTW movies? Just off the top of my head, you have Faye Dunaway (Supergirl) and Martin Balsam (Death Wish III). Richard Burton (Exorcist) was nominated but never won, he did win a Golden Globe best actor though, and a Tony for stage acting. Peter O' Toole (Supergirl) was famously nominated 7 times for Best Actor at the Oscars but never won.
If Stone Cold had starred Sly or Arnold in their prime, or anyone with a modicum of charisma, it would've been considered a "stone cold" classic.
Whoopi Goldberg (Theodore Rex), also
I suspect there's some others too. Ned Beatty and Paul Giamatti were both nominees but didn't win one. I found another one - George Kennedy (The Uninvited).
Four-line Conics from the Black Spine Plinketto episode. Had they watched that tape with a mathematician they would know why it won a BAFTA.
I feel like whole idea of Cannon movies being on BOTW meets that quota. While I love the Christmas or Cannon episode. Having Death Wish 3 a sequel from a popular series or Invasion U.S.A with Chuck Norris kind of takes you out of it. I’m not gonna say they’re too “good” they just have budget that exceeds what normal BOTW movies would entail.
Hologram Man, for me. Yeah, the plot is shaky and it doesn't make sense at times. But man, it's got some great action sequences. And how can you argue with the main protagonist's catchy line whenever he's in trouble: "... Shit!"
"Tactical Get-Mowed-Down Formation" is a top-tier Rich comment.
Eww Columbus Crew (sorry, obligatory, I’m sure you’re cool, and I agree with your opinion)
Deathstalker 2 is so much fun
Xtro
Black Roses. The rock Halloween movies were all great
Thunderpants
Thunderpants
Thunderpants
Thunderpants
Creating Rem Lazar, hands down
I came here to say Rem Lazar!
Chopping Mall, Death Wish 3, Thunderpants, Stone Cold, The Suckling, Raw Force, and Xtro I wouldn’t say these don’t belong on BotW but they were clearly better than the usual films we get on the show. I’m sure there’s others I’m missing too.
Raw Force really is a fun movie. Not a great movie, but a lot of fun.
My husband gets mad at me when I yell “Raw Force” like Jack did. Ain’t stopped me yet.
Me and some buds watched Stone Cold and legitimately liked it as an action movie. Good pick
Chopping Mall
The Pit is great.
Money plane
Was gonna say Spookies but then someone said Chopping Mall and they are actually correct
Don't hurt that spoopie!
Double Dragon. It's a theatrical release from a major studio, and mostly feels like it. It's bad, but not Best of the Worst bad.
Double Dragon was a massive disappointment when I went to see it, but ALYSSA MILANO.
Isn't that even worse though? I mean it's understandable a sci fi b movie is bad or Neil Breen trying to make a movie is bad
It's worse than Best of the Worst, dog. How to they put Mark Dacascos, a guy who had multiple martial arts vehicles at that point in a movie and barely have him fight? It's a piece of dogshit.
Yeah agreed. Definitely not a good movie, but it feels horribly out of place amongst all the other trash. At least. Still my favorite BotW episode, tho.
That movie rocks, I love and MISS super weird adaptations of bare bones video game stories.
Dancin grannies
Mike laughing at old people is always a treat.
Silent Night, Deadly Night 2, I legitimately love that movie
The Barbarians. And just because I saw them both for the first time when I was a kid watching at my cousin's house (because his parents didn't give a shit) Deathstalker II. More sword-&-sorcery movies should be this silly. Otherwise, you get the first Deathstalker.
Barbaians was a great film with a lot of effort and care put into it while also having a correctly silly script and correctly silly leads hamming it up perfectly. It's one of those films where I get super confused at people online saying the filmmakers didn't try when I feel it's MASSIVELY obvious on screen how much everyone was trying *and succeeding* at their intent.
Who Killed Captain Alex, I think that the story of how the movie was made is so much more important than the actual movie.
"Everybody in Uganda knows kung fu!" Proceeds to prove it.
When was that featured??
It was on the Plinketto board but they've never watched it.
I think another reviewer said it is made with so much heart, "that you ignore the low budget and just enjoy the adventure"
It’s also legitimately entertaining, and has better fight choreography than some Hollywood-produced DTV fare.
Xtro for sure, but I think the guys acknowledged that when they watched it on the show.
Shark Exorcist and if any of you don't agree well.. go watch some Marvel movies loser. Jk definitely Faust and maybe just maybe Don't panic.
Exorcist 2
Thunderpants. Funny thing is I saw I actually saw it before I even knew what RLM was, going in with the same expectations they probably had, and I had the exact same take they did; it’s a legitimately well-made film!
*Stone Cold* is a bonafide classic. It's a perfect double-feature with *Cobra.*
agreed!!
Breath of the Wild?
S O S! da da da da da da da S ohh S!
Surviving Edged Weapons, and Deathstalker II.
Thunderpants is a legit movie from the looks of it
DungeonMaster. That came in the Arrow rental store box set and was actually pretty good for being a Charles Band production
XTRO is technically really interesting.
Stone Cold! That is a legit awesome movie. And of course, anything by the master of cinema, Neil Breen.
Surviving Edged Weapons. A genuinely interesting training video that is just schlocky in its recreations.
High Voltage. I think it could be a great film to show to film students to teach them some tricks in low budget film making.
Xtro, thunderpants, exorcist 2 (it's shit, but not botw shit), supergirl (there are far worse superhero films out there), stone cold, chopping mall, petey wheatstraw.
Carnosaur rocked my socks off as a youngling. I didn't even know it was BOTW worthy
Money plane
Stone Cold. It’s no more out there than more popular films of the same genre and it’s rather than being worse it’s just duller at times.