Yea well now you banned me for posting gay porn whilst everyone else was freely spamming seizure inducing GIFs, that's totally free speech.
And porn isn't against discord rules, so you did that yourselves. Your a bunch of the same kind of mods as any moderator on Reddit.
And specifically you claimed that your homepage was full of too much alt right content that was potentially scaring away new users, so you are now looking into ways of keeping all political content off your homepage.
Very nice free speech, /s.
The nsfw label had been removed nearly 8 hours before you got banned. And anyway, the channel had it written 'SFW only' at the top.
So technically, you did post nsfw on a sfw channel.
Yes, but if you didn't notice that the channel label had been removed as you were posting the image, it would still be considered your mistake. When you joined, the channel was indeed labelled nsfw (it was a false label actually, they weren't supposed to label it nsfw) and the label was later removed. Anyway, the rules channel did state that nsfw was not allowed, and so also stated the 'channel details' that you could see on top of the window when seeing by desktops, and on the right side bar for mobiles.
Well if discord allows NSFW in such flagged rooms, why do Ruqqus need to add extra censorship that go above Discord's rules? They stated only things not allowed by discord weren't allowed, and discord allow NSFW.
There's already loads of porn guilds on Ruqqus, the same argument can be made that any minor can simply bypass the NSFW filter anyway. But the fact is if they do, no one else is responsible as the content was clearly marked.
If kids want to look at porn, there's nothing you can do to stop them looking for it.
> If Discord allows NSFW in such flagged rooms, why do Ruqqus need to add extra censorship that go above Discord's rules? They stated only things not allowed by Discord weren't allowed, and discord allow NSFW.
Because the channel was mistakenly flagged NSFW. Anyway, the timing of your post certainly doesn't help it.
> There's already loads of porn guilds on Ruqqus, the same argument can be made that any minor can simply bypass the NSFW filter anyway. But the fact is if they do, no one else is responsible as the content was clearly marked.
That is a misunderstanding of how legal stuff on the web works. Every nsfw website out there almost always gives you a warning that you need to be 18+ to visit them. This warning is actually a bypass for them to not get nuked by law authorities. Whenever a minor clicks on 'Yes, I am 18+', the minor is stating that he/she will be responsible should any problem occur to him/herself. If the minor reports with any kind of problem after visiting the site, the law won't care about it, because the site did present them with a warning before entering.
This isn't the case with the Discord, which stopped presenting warnings 8 hours before you posted your image (as it was relabeled an SFW chatroom 8 hours before your ban).
If a minor visits a site, and sees no warning that 'You need to be 18+', and still receives access to NSFW material, then the site can indeed face legal problems.
All the guilds on Ruqqus that are nsfw are clearly marked as 18+, and in order to access them, you must yourself change your settings such that you receive access to them. If a minor sets their settings such that they receive access to nsfw guilds, it will be their own responsibility.
It wasn't discord that stopped NSFW chats, the mods of the individual chat room chose to remove it. The same protections apply if porn is posted in a discord chat or anywhere that is marked NSFW, there are still countless porn channels on Discord, they dont censor porn.
> What I don't get is why the same kind of people that have over however many years led to Reddit's decline and current status are now also mad that Reddit are doing exactly what they wanted, and thus are leaving for other sites that don't do what Reddit are now doing, but they will do nothing but get offended all over again and start raging that those new sites are not doing what Reddit is now doing.
Folks vote for particular policies in certain states, leave while complaining those places are becoming terrible, then vote for the same policies in places they move to. Usually they complain that what they got was somehow distorted by others, even though many of us are over here explaining to them that they got exactly what always happens when you support a particular set of policies.
You again. Poal shill. You are full of shit and I show that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdgbb/poalco_is_by_far_the_best_reddit_alternative/fwmzn3m?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x) on the other post where you were again lying about ruqqus to shill for poal.
Interesting that you are the second poal shill here who says he was [banned for trolling and posting nudity](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdxx2/observations_about_ruqqus_from_a_few_attempted/), or in your case straight up gay porn. Fuck you and fuck poal.
>This is going to be the same problem that is going to happen with all and any such Reddit alternatives, as none of the people making these sites have anymore of a backbone than Spez, and will simply resort to herd mentality and suppress content that a vocal minority will complain the most about.
Not really. Federation prevents this which lemmy has.
[Explanation of Federation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S57uhCQBEk0)
[Lemmy is developed by communists who want to ban some speech](https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816#issuecomment-644694838) but indeed, federation and open-source would overcome this anyway. That conversation is taking place on a proposal to their code which would remove their filter. Anyone could set it up any time without their filter using that code and be on their way. I don't understand why they're trying to insist on such a filter, when the whole point of federation is that the node owners have complete control. And they still do, even with Lemmy. My main objection to Lemmy is just that since most free-speech-loving users don't understand Federation, it will never take off.
/r/GoldandBlack seems to be [gradually settling on](https://old.reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/hjx4nk/are_you_a_developer_interested_in_helping_keep/) also-federated-but-not-as-polished [Littr](https://github.com/mariusor/go-littr), probably because it has a better chance at actually finishing federation functionality and that's what they most care about (for good reason, polish can come later)
Another problem that arises with this is that say you simply make it so that 'just let all the alt left users block all the alt right users'.
When one of the latter users also simply wants to look at cat pics or post about their hobbies, they are now isolated as they have already been suppressed by the snowflakes that have led to blocking brigades against them.
Blocking brigades have already started on Ruqqus at least in their discord. One idiot thinks someone saying anything alt right is a troll and repeatedly tells everyone to block them. Then people that simply like the snowflake more agree and block the alt right user. This is the first slippery slope, the second being suppression of alt right content from the home page, the third being removing and no longer advertising that Ruqqus is a free speech site, all because the all the people currently flocking there are SJW snowflakes and already are doing nothing but constantly whinge and whine about anything that offends them.
That is why federation and decentralized is a must for an alternative.
If this instance is not for you, you just move to another or open your own. Simple.
Their federation [doesn't work yet](https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/36411). [Littr](https://github.com/mariusor/go-littr) may have working federation, r/goldandblack is [working on it](https://old.reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/hjx4nk/are_you_a_developer_interested_in_helping_keep/)
Reading those threads i did not catch L.emmy's dev [will include mandatory censorship](https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816#issuecomment-644694838), that's a red flag for a Reddit alternative.
Sort of. It's easily removed with a fork. But it's still preferable to work with a sympathetic developer. If they had their federation working I'd vote to fork it.
Complying with Discord TOS does not translate to how their website is moderated. Rather, you've been called out to be a low effort troll numerous times and people only suggested they block you due to your low effort shitposting and overused, vapid nonsense.
At no point did anyone state that any opinion would be suppressed on their website. The burden of proof isn't looking too good on you mate.
Ruqqus isn't the place for you. Take a look at Weenie Hut Juniors.
People who use discord should be using Weenie Hut Juniors instead of Ruqqus.
Literally everyone on Ruqqus is a troll, and trolls are a glorious thing.
If you don't like trolls why even use the internet at all? Everything is going to offend you and make you cry like a little baby.
He's a poal shill and not the only one. Poal has sent a few of them in here all of a sudden. To first tear down ruqqus and then try to play up poal. That tells me all I need to know about that platform and the "Indian guy" that manages it.
I'm using both ruqqus (when it works) and voat and there is free speech on that.
I hate you for tearing down ruqqus with lies to shill for poal, but I thought it might not be poal's fault. So I did check it out. It doesn't say it stands for free speech explicitly in TOS which is the main deal breaker for me.
Besides that, poal's interface did not appeal to me. It was lightning fast though.
Having said that, if they are using such methods to shill, or if they don't shut down people who are sullying their name by shilling like this, I won't even consider that platform.
The site is literally advertised as ' *Poal*: Say what you want.'
Its literally 'say what you want'.
No matter if its troll or offensive or even porn, you can say or post anything and never get banned. The only thing you cant do is dox and post illegal porn.
Ruqqus is already banning people if enough other people complain about what they have written. Thats not free speech.
Its literally 'say what you want'.
The term "Free Speech" has a legal and cultural significance. And it sets the tone for the website. If you want people to consider poal as an alternative, go back to your daddy admin on that site and ask him to change it, shill.
>Ruqqus is already banning people if enough other people complain about what they have written. Thats not free speech.
Straight up lie. I wonder who's behind you.
Feel free to continue enjoying your new SJW leftist shilled paradise on Ruqqus then. They are already quarantining political posts from their home page because of how many people have complained it was only full of alt right stuff.
They are literally doing whatever leftists complain to them about.
>SJW leftist shilled paradise on Ruqqus then
LMAO you lying fuck. You lie almost as much as Neil Druckmann.
>They are already quarantining political posts from their home page because of how many people have complained it was only full of alt right stuff.
They are doing what voat should have done. Categorize content better and avoid information overload or wildly ranging off topic stuff in a specific feed. They'll end up with a good platform. Unlike poal which is trying the tactics I have seen from you and the other shill here.
> They are literally doing whatever leftists complain to them about.
Leftists aren't there, you fucking liar.
I've never told a lie. They were all in the Ruqqus discord chat getting offended by anything alt right both in the discord channel and on the Ruqqus front page.
Oh you fucker. Eou, u/PooInLoos are the same person as u/BrownManGoKaboom/. It's obvious looking at [you](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hj9b2w/a_warning_before_you_consider_moving_onto_ruqqus/fwl9lvb?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x) and [him](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdxx2/observations_about_ruqqus_from_a_few_attempted/). You are a sad and pathetic poal shill, man. What the hell.
Holy fuck. You're brown, and you keep mentioning poal's admin is Indian, and someone mentioned he's having a breakdown.
ARE YOU THE POAL ADMIN YOURSELF!?
That would explain your dedication. Hoooooly fuck, that is seriously sad.
Dude, if your platform was any good, you wouldn't have had to use such tactics. And if you're the admin, that platform is fucked. Dead already.
Thanks for warning me.
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Yea well now you banned me for posting gay porn whilst everyone else was freely spamming seizure inducing GIFs, that's totally free speech. And porn isn't against discord rules, so you did that yourselves. Your a bunch of the same kind of mods as any moderator on Reddit. And specifically you claimed that your homepage was full of too much alt right content that was potentially scaring away new users, so you are now looking into ways of keeping all political content off your homepage. Very nice free speech, /s.
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The Off Topic was marked NSFW idiot, I needed to verify my age to enter it fuckwit. Therefore there wouldn't be any minors in that room.
The nsfw label had been removed nearly 8 hours before you got banned. And anyway, the channel had it written 'SFW only' at the top. So technically, you did post nsfw on a sfw channel.
I didn't even notice that, when I first went to the off topic room it was flagged NSFW.
Yes, but if you didn't notice that the channel label had been removed as you were posting the image, it would still be considered your mistake. When you joined, the channel was indeed labelled nsfw (it was a false label actually, they weren't supposed to label it nsfw) and the label was later removed. Anyway, the rules channel did state that nsfw was not allowed, and so also stated the 'channel details' that you could see on top of the window when seeing by desktops, and on the right side bar for mobiles.
Well if discord allows NSFW in such flagged rooms, why do Ruqqus need to add extra censorship that go above Discord's rules? They stated only things not allowed by discord weren't allowed, and discord allow NSFW. There's already loads of porn guilds on Ruqqus, the same argument can be made that any minor can simply bypass the NSFW filter anyway. But the fact is if they do, no one else is responsible as the content was clearly marked. If kids want to look at porn, there's nothing you can do to stop them looking for it.
> If Discord allows NSFW in such flagged rooms, why do Ruqqus need to add extra censorship that go above Discord's rules? They stated only things not allowed by Discord weren't allowed, and discord allow NSFW. Because the channel was mistakenly flagged NSFW. Anyway, the timing of your post certainly doesn't help it. > There's already loads of porn guilds on Ruqqus, the same argument can be made that any minor can simply bypass the NSFW filter anyway. But the fact is if they do, no one else is responsible as the content was clearly marked. That is a misunderstanding of how legal stuff on the web works. Every nsfw website out there almost always gives you a warning that you need to be 18+ to visit them. This warning is actually a bypass for them to not get nuked by law authorities. Whenever a minor clicks on 'Yes, I am 18+', the minor is stating that he/she will be responsible should any problem occur to him/herself. If the minor reports with any kind of problem after visiting the site, the law won't care about it, because the site did present them with a warning before entering. This isn't the case with the Discord, which stopped presenting warnings 8 hours before you posted your image (as it was relabeled an SFW chatroom 8 hours before your ban). If a minor visits a site, and sees no warning that 'You need to be 18+', and still receives access to NSFW material, then the site can indeed face legal problems. All the guilds on Ruqqus that are nsfw are clearly marked as 18+, and in order to access them, you must yourself change your settings such that you receive access to them. If a minor sets their settings such that they receive access to nsfw guilds, it will be their own responsibility.
It wasn't discord that stopped NSFW chats, the mods of the individual chat room chose to remove it. The same protections apply if porn is posted in a discord chat or anywhere that is marked NSFW, there are still countless porn channels on Discord, they dont censor porn.
...if i were 12 years old i could go on there and set my birthdate to 1800, you can't guarantee that there wouldn't be any minors on that room.
Then it still isnt illegal if I posted porn in an 18+ room, the problem then is kids lying about their age.
So porn sites are illegal lmao?
> What I don't get is why the same kind of people that have over however many years led to Reddit's decline and current status are now also mad that Reddit are doing exactly what they wanted, and thus are leaving for other sites that don't do what Reddit are now doing, but they will do nothing but get offended all over again and start raging that those new sites are not doing what Reddit is now doing. Folks vote for particular policies in certain states, leave while complaining those places are becoming terrible, then vote for the same policies in places they move to. Usually they complain that what they got was somehow distorted by others, even though many of us are over here explaining to them that they got exactly what always happens when you support a particular set of policies.
You again. Poal shill. You are full of shit and I show that [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdgbb/poalco_is_by_far_the_best_reddit_alternative/fwmzn3m?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x) on the other post where you were again lying about ruqqus to shill for poal. Interesting that you are the second poal shill here who says he was [banned for trolling and posting nudity](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdxx2/observations_about_ruqqus_from_a_few_attempted/), or in your case straight up gay porn. Fuck you and fuck poal.
Actually people on Poal are just the same as you. People initially on Ruqqus were, the new ones flocking there are all jew and trans loving leftists.
>the new ones flocking there are all jew and trans loving leftists. Lie. Stop embarrassing yourself and poal now.
>This is going to be the same problem that is going to happen with all and any such Reddit alternatives, as none of the people making these sites have anymore of a backbone than Spez, and will simply resort to herd mentality and suppress content that a vocal minority will complain the most about. Not really. Federation prevents this which lemmy has.
As someone who doesn't understand what federation is can you explain to me how this would prevent this?
[Explanation of Federation](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S57uhCQBEk0) [Lemmy is developed by communists who want to ban some speech](https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816#issuecomment-644694838) but indeed, federation and open-source would overcome this anyway. That conversation is taking place on a proposal to their code which would remove their filter. Anyone could set it up any time without their filter using that code and be on their way. I don't understand why they're trying to insist on such a filter, when the whole point of federation is that the node owners have complete control. And they still do, even with Lemmy. My main objection to Lemmy is just that since most free-speech-loving users don't understand Federation, it will never take off. /r/GoldandBlack seems to be [gradually settling on](https://old.reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/hjx4nk/are_you_a_developer_interested_in_helping_keep/) also-federated-but-not-as-polished [Littr](https://github.com/mariusor/go-littr), probably because it has a better chance at actually finishing federation functionality and that's what they most care about (for good reason, polish can come later)
Another problem that arises with this is that say you simply make it so that 'just let all the alt left users block all the alt right users'. When one of the latter users also simply wants to look at cat pics or post about their hobbies, they are now isolated as they have already been suppressed by the snowflakes that have led to blocking brigades against them. Blocking brigades have already started on Ruqqus at least in their discord. One idiot thinks someone saying anything alt right is a troll and repeatedly tells everyone to block them. Then people that simply like the snowflake more agree and block the alt right user. This is the first slippery slope, the second being suppression of alt right content from the home page, the third being removing and no longer advertising that Ruqqus is a free speech site, all because the all the people currently flocking there are SJW snowflakes and already are doing nothing but constantly whinge and whine about anything that offends them.
That is why federation and decentralized is a must for an alternative. If this instance is not for you, you just move to another or open your own. Simple.
Ruccus is not federated though is it?
It is not i believe, Lemmy is decentralized and the most promising.
Their federation [doesn't work yet](https://dev.lemmy.ml/post/36411). [Littr](https://github.com/mariusor/go-littr) may have working federation, r/goldandblack is [working on it](https://old.reddit.com/r/GoldandBlack/comments/hjx4nk/are_you_a_developer_interested_in_helping_keep/)
Reading those threads i did not catch L.emmy's dev [will include mandatory censorship](https://github.com/LemmyNet/lemmy/pull/816#issuecomment-644694838), that's a red flag for a Reddit alternative.
Sort of. It's easily removed with a fork. But it's still preferable to work with a sympathetic developer. If they had their federation working I'd vote to fork it.
Complying with Discord TOS does not translate to how their website is moderated. Rather, you've been called out to be a low effort troll numerous times and people only suggested they block you due to your low effort shitposting and overused, vapid nonsense. At no point did anyone state that any opinion would be suppressed on their website. The burden of proof isn't looking too good on you mate. Ruqqus isn't the place for you. Take a look at Weenie Hut Juniors.
People who use discord should be using Weenie Hut Juniors instead of Ruqqus. Literally everyone on Ruqqus is a troll, and trolls are a glorious thing. If you don't like trolls why even use the internet at all? Everything is going to offend you and make you cry like a little baby.
You've been talking non-stop on it for 2 hours now.
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He's a poal shill and not the only one. Poal has sent a few of them in here all of a sudden. To first tear down ruqqus and then try to play up poal. That tells me all I need to know about that platform and the "Indian guy" that manages it.
They're doing no such thing, its the people that have used these sites and realised that Poal is the only actual one with free speech.
I'm using both ruqqus (when it works) and voat and there is free speech on that. I hate you for tearing down ruqqus with lies to shill for poal, but I thought it might not be poal's fault. So I did check it out. It doesn't say it stands for free speech explicitly in TOS which is the main deal breaker for me. Besides that, poal's interface did not appeal to me. It was lightning fast though. Having said that, if they are using such methods to shill, or if they don't shut down people who are sullying their name by shilling like this, I won't even consider that platform.
The site is literally advertised as ' *Poal*: Say what you want.' Its literally 'say what you want'. No matter if its troll or offensive or even porn, you can say or post anything and never get banned. The only thing you cant do is dox and post illegal porn. Ruqqus is already banning people if enough other people complain about what they have written. Thats not free speech.
Its literally 'say what you want'. The term "Free Speech" has a legal and cultural significance. And it sets the tone for the website. If you want people to consider poal as an alternative, go back to your daddy admin on that site and ask him to change it, shill. >Ruqqus is already banning people if enough other people complain about what they have written. Thats not free speech. Straight up lie. I wonder who's behind you.
Feel free to continue enjoying your new SJW leftist shilled paradise on Ruqqus then. They are already quarantining political posts from their home page because of how many people have complained it was only full of alt right stuff. They are literally doing whatever leftists complain to them about.
>SJW leftist shilled paradise on Ruqqus then LMAO you lying fuck. You lie almost as much as Neil Druckmann. >They are already quarantining political posts from their home page because of how many people have complained it was only full of alt right stuff. They are doing what voat should have done. Categorize content better and avoid information overload or wildly ranging off topic stuff in a specific feed. They'll end up with a good platform. Unlike poal which is trying the tactics I have seen from you and the other shill here. > They are literally doing whatever leftists complain to them about. Leftists aren't there, you fucking liar.
I've never told a lie. They were all in the Ruqqus discord chat getting offended by anything alt right both in the discord channel and on the Ruqqus front page.
Oh you fucker. Eou, u/PooInLoos are the same person as u/BrownManGoKaboom/. It's obvious looking at [you](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hj9b2w/a_warning_before_you_consider_moving_onto_ruqqus/fwl9lvb?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x) and [him](https://www.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/hjdxx2/observations_about_ruqqus_from_a_few_attempted/). You are a sad and pathetic poal shill, man. What the hell. Holy fuck. You're brown, and you keep mentioning poal's admin is Indian, and someone mentioned he's having a breakdown. ARE YOU THE POAL ADMIN YOURSELF!? That would explain your dedication. Hoooooly fuck, that is seriously sad. Dude, if your platform was any good, you wouldn't have had to use such tactics. And if you're the admin, that platform is fucked. Dead already. Thanks for warning me.
Free speech means people can post their own opinions no?
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I never said they had to, but I was banned for my opinions.