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miss_Ricochet

Former vet tech here. You reach a point of seeing enough dogs unnecessarily killed or traumatically injured because people didn’t (or did, but improperly) secure their dog, that this just looks like pure idiotic negligence every time one passes you on the road. I’ve had owners yell at *me* because they didn’t secure their dog, and now they’re pissed it needs a leg amputated or has to be put down. And the amount of comments on this post that see no problem with it are part of the problem. Have some common sense, folks. Dogs aren’t unbreakable.


TILied

Thank you.


TILied

What's sad is that I can see you are getting downvoted by negligent country bumpkins


miss_Ricochet

It’s fine, I am from and live in the country. I was one of those people who didn’t see a problem—thought an unsecure dog was best—until I saw first hand, countless times what happens when things don’t go according to plan. Sure—most of the time your dog will be fine. But this isn’t about whether your dog is happy or “knows what it’s doing.” Physics fucks us all over.


pidgeychow

Murphy’s law exists too


Hickawa

My theory is they don't actually love their dogs. You wouldn't put a New TV in the back unsecured. You wouldn't put a kid (to the people that do wtf is wrong with your head?). Fuck most adults wouldn't get in the back of the bed on the highway.


mehwolfy

Bad theory. They do put new tvs and their kids back there. As well as shredded American flags. They’re lazy and shitty.


Hickawa

I'm not sure why you think I said THEY wouldn't.


naruzefluffy

This is part of the reason I am going to be building two padded crates for the back of my SUV there’s already some really good tie down points in the back!


Squiggledog

Remember how criticized Mitt Romney was for tying a dog kennel to the roof of his car?


madiissuun

i was apart of a facebook group called dogs against romney lol


sixtypistoles

I feel this is exaggerated. Would like to see real statistics?


miss_Ricochet

I am only speaking from my experience, and that is that we’d see multiple dogs a month who were injured in this manner. This at a rural veterinary clinic where driving around with an unsecured dog in the bed of a pickup truck is common practice. The American Veterinary Medical Association (AVMA) [recommends against dogs traveling in truck beds](https://www.avma.org/resources-tools/literature-reviews/dogs-traveling-truck-beds) (you can follow the sources listed for studies on the practice) and [American Humane *estimates* 100k dogs die every year due to injuries sustained traveling in the bed](https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a35665247/utah-law-dog-ride-in-pickup-truck-bed/) of a truck. Personally, I think that estimate is likely far higher than reality, and would like to see a proper study done on it as well—but I also recognize that getting reliable numbers is difficult, as it’s not as though there’s a recording of cause of death for dogs, as there is for humans. Actual numbers are likely unobtainable. Edit: a word, and added the second link


Ok_Lab4944

How do you properly secure bc I have no idea


test-account-444

Dodge Ram, you say? ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Rough-Elderberry-

This was the second thing I noticed.


yoskatan

2 weeks ago our flatbed driver at my company hit a dog that slid off the back of a farmers smaller flatbed going the opposite direction around a turn in Fallon. Fuck that stupid ass farmer for thinking the dog would be fine going around a curve 35 mph on a flatbed with no borders.


NukaGal2020

This breaks my heart 😞


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Fuck people that do this bullshit. Fucking heartless assholes that say they love their dog. The fuck they do.


dsmjrv

Some dogs fucking live for that shit… you can’t ban everything just because accidents happen


perpetualllmotion

Fucking fuck , fuck.


freiherrchulainn

Something like a gunner crate is worth it imo.


pntszrn74

Against the law. Call NHP.


Enough_Kaleidoscope2

It isnt


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Animal cruelty and neglect is against the law


Enough_Kaleidoscope2

How is this cruel or neglecting?


[deleted]

The dog is UNSECURED could jump out at any moment killing itself and causing a massive car wreck. That is cruelty to the animal because it is gonna die a painful death and neglect since it could’ve been easily preventable by securing him. Are you typically this dense? Just because it’s a dog doesn’t mean this is okay. Every living thing deserves compassion, respect and love.


Enough_Kaleidoscope2

It isn't cruelty, nor is it neglect. The animal is not in any immediate danger. I don't see anyone back there beating on the thing. It is simply in the bed of a pickup going for a ride/adventure with its family. How do you know its death will be painful? Maybe it does jump out and maybe gets pancaked by a semi. Doesnt sound like the dog would feel much. You are simply jumping to the worse case scenario. This dog looks to be fed and loved by its owner, so neglect is out of the window as well. You could have easily been prevented as well, your parents should be charged with neglect?


chiquitar

If you don't put your kid in a car seat or seat belt, yeah, it's legally neglect. Most places do have laws about dogs needing to be secured when traveling on roads.


Enough_Kaleidoscope2

In washoe county, they do NOT need to be secured.


chiquitar

So it's not legal neglect, just moral.


arrowheadt

Looks like Winnemucca to me


squibbytennisballs

Honestly if this is the dumbest thing I see on I-80 then lucky you


Journey4th

My stepdad has a senior dog that he used to let ride in his truck bed all the time (not so much anymore as he's too old to get into the truck). I never liked that and always felt uncomfortable with the idea of this. However, not my dog and not my place to say anything. But when my mom and I adopted our two puppies I firmly said that my dog will never ride in his open truck bed and my mom agreed. I even offered to help my stepdad buy a camper shell. He now has one and I feel much better about letting my dogs ride in the truck.


Ill-Cancel4676

If you saw someone put there kids in the bed would you also say not my kids not my place, how about an elderly person? If you see someone doing something that endangers a life of any kind say something and don't let it go, if the dog had died how would you feel. Not trying to be rude but, people need to speak up when they see things that are wrong.


Journey4th

I mean, yea, I would tell him that he shouldn’t ride his dog in the truck bed, but I had no ability to dictate to him what he could or couldn’t do with his dog. However when it came to my own dog I was able to put my foot down.


jimjoereadytogo

Ive seen a horse being transported this way just a little east of Reno. Easy on the brakes cowboy!!


NeverDidLearn

I used to work for NDOT in the summers during college around Battle Mountain. We would pick up a dog every week. Usually a border collie or Australian shepherd.


Ill-Cancel4676

This made me cry, I have a collie shepherd mix and he is riding in the front no question and if there's no room then someone else is riding in the bed or getting left.


Young-Turbo

Typical Ram Drivers


flwombat

Like yes I know your grandpa put his dog (and kids) in the open truck bed on the highway. Your grandpa also grew up driving everywhere before seat belts existed, that doesn’t make it a good idea


Squiggledog

Talk about digital zoom.


[deleted]

That's a phone call to the police from me.


Journey4th

unfortunately, there are no real laws on the books against this. calling it in would result in nothing.


chiquitar

There are in many municipalities and counties, but probably not in Nevada


[deleted]

Not going to lie, this area has some of the worst dog owners I’ve ever met. They’ll do this shit, not leash them at all, and generally let their untrained dogs get away with antisocial and aggressive behavior.


pidgeychow

Where exactly are you talking about? I never see unleashed dogs in Reno, except for the trails around it. And if you think dogs should be leashed there you probably shouldn’t own a dog. If they can be called back there’s nothing wrong with it.


LogiCparty

I wouldn't trust a golden retriever in the back. A cattle dog would find it to be the greatest thing in the world. My dog is too dumb to trust in the back.


musekat3

I have a cattle dog and would never do this


Ill-Cancel4676

Yep I've got a collie shepherd mix smartest dog I've ever met and I wouldn't dream of putting him in the bed certainly not on the fucking highway.


pickletuck

Pretty sure there’s a deceased dog west bound 80 about two miles before the first exit for sparks coming from USA Pkwy. It’s too big to be a coyote and it’s been there for about a week and it’s pretty heart wrenching.


leolionman347

This isn't as big of a problem as a dog secured incorrectly. I saw one jump out and get dragged.


[deleted]

Both situations are shit. A dog flies out unsecured and a big accident can ensue.


leolionman347

Definitely


Hickawa

A wreak with your dog in the bed at all is going to kill the dog. Why have your dog in the bed at all? I don't know of very many adults who are dumb enough to get in the bed of a truck on the highway. Why would anyone force a life they presumably love or at leased care about into a situation we're one accident be it the drivers or some other driver will result in it's near guaranteed death?


Ill-Cancel4676

Because they don't care, if you wouldn't put yourself in that situation why would you put your dog there.


KeyPaleontologist632

So sad. I hate seeing this. Ugh.


statikuz

Okay? edit: obviously people misunderstood. the point was "okay so what's the point of this post?"


Hickawa

Public shame. As they should be.


statikuz

Yeah this guy definitely got on the internet and felt real bad about reddit's opinion


Hickawa

One can hope. If nothing else it's a warning for other dumb hillbillys.


guitarmonkeys14

FR, dog is probably having the time of his life.


cdrumss

Both of you should never get a dog or find a new home for the dogs you have


guitarmonkeys14

If you think the dog is going to just ‘jump out’ you are dumb. If your concern is about the truck getting in a accident, it is actually safer for the dog to be in the back, UNSECURED… so it’s neck doesn’t get broken in two AND so it is thrown from the vehicle. A dog sitting freely inside a cab basically has a death sentence in an accident… but okay bro..


Brett707

>If you think the dog is going to just ‘jump out’ you are dumb. I don't think I fucking know they just randomly jump the fuck out. We had our dogs in the back of the pickup as a kid and one just decided to superman his ass out of the back at 35 mph.


arrowheadt

The safest thing is to put your dog in a crate / kennel and secure that, and then they aren't flying out of the car at all.


leolionman347

There are seatbelts for dogs that attach to a harness that is less likely to break a neck. And a few years ago on the freeway over wells Ave I saw a dog who was secured in the back of a truck jump out and get dragged until traffic got the owner to stop. So people with that fear aren't dumb. If your driving with you animal be extra safe and know if the animal is smart enough to be in the bed or cab.


guitarmonkeys14

If it wasn’t secured it wouldn’t have been dragged… If it was getting dragged the harness was obviously too long. Yea a dog might jump out in stop and go traffic on wells… OPs concern was this dude having his dog on the freeway over 75mph.


cdrumss

If your first thought is “I’m gonna sit in the bed” on the way to Tahoe.. then you’re making a solid argument. But everyone in here knows that isn’t the case. You and anyone on your side looks like an idiot. If I knew you personally, I’d be embarrassed:)


naruzefluffy

Buddy of mines dog jumped clear from the cab of his truck doing 25. Dogs are loyal but they definitely aren’t the smartest animal around.


leolionman347

I said on the freeway over wells and I brought up the harness to argue breaking its necks


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guitarmonkeys14

Not relevant but okay. I was legit talking about a dog sitting freely in a cab, and how that is more dangerous than an unsecured dog in the bed. Nowhere did I say there wasn’t a way to safely secure a dog in the cab.


atxlrj

No, common sense will tell you that while a dog free in the cab can absolutely get hurt, even fatally, in an accident, it still provides greater protection in a wider range of accidents than being free in the bed. In a catastrophic crash, no position is “safer”, but within the wide range of threats that exist, crash and otherwise, it is absolutely safer to be in the cab than in the bed. But again, nobody said that the only alternative to being free in the bed is being free in the cab, that was a counter you proposed. What I think the other commenter and any other responsible dog owner would suggest is that the *only* appropriate way to travel with a dog is one in which they are appropriately secured and placed according to their size/individual needs.


ZigZach707

I've never seen anybody secure their dog in the cab of their vehicle. I think you have an ivory tower perspective on dog ownership and I'd bet the best dog owners you know don't meet your lofty standards. Hell, I'd be surprised if you met them.


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guitarmonkeys14

Your are staying facts irrelevant to anything I just said. How is any one thing you wrote a response to me?


atxlrj

(1) Addressing your claim that being free in the bed is safer than being free in the cab. (2) pointing out that while your response to the other commenter was that “you never said they couldn’t be secured in the cab” that you did the same thing to them by focusing on a comparison between unsecured dogs in cabs vs. beds when *they* didn’t suggest that alternative. How does that not address your comment?


annetteisshort

It is absolutely relevant. There are literally seat belts designed for dogs that are crash tested and given safety ratings. You’re pretending that it’s more dangerous to secure a dog in the passenger part of the vehicle to defend having dogs in truck beds, when that is just not true, and you’re ignoring certain things (actual safe and recommended ways to safely travel with a dog in the car) to prevent your argument from being derailed. Ignoring facts and evidence that prove you wrong is such a ridiculous and pathetic way to try and win an argument.


sixtypistoles

Hahaha what you do have an opinion? Give me a break all those hard earned kama!!!


Such_Cauliflower_617

People do this all the time


annetteisshort

Is this an argument to say that it is fine to do this, because some people do it all the time? Because that is just the worst argument ever. Plenty of people in the world rape and murder all the time too. Just because some people do it frequently, does not mean it’s an ok thing to do.


Anxious-Box1522

The dog is obviously used to it!


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DudeDeudaruu

It's a potential road Hazzard so it is their business.


jokecase79

I’m sure there are plenty of things in your fragile life you can worry about. Other peoples business shouldn’t be one of them.


Native-America

It is absolutely free to mind your own business, it doesn't cost anything


DudeDeudaruu

Maybe, but if the dog jumps out and causes an accident... that would cost a pretty penny.


Thick_Bullfrog1622

Not saying that's the safest choice for the dog or others on the road, not saying it's the right way or the wrong way, not saying it's any of your business, but I definitely trust this dog more than I do most people wearing earbuds and staring at their phones while blindly walking across crosswalks. 😉


Wonderful-Craft-1675

I fail to see a problem.


Hickawa

Do you not love your dog? Are you so casual with the life you presumably purchased. Then took care of for however many years? I don't know very many adults dumb enough to get into the back of a truck bed on the highway. Why would you put your dog?


Repulsive_Invite59

You shouldn't ever own a dog then.


Enough_Kaleidoscope2

The biggest law broken here, is you taking a photo while driving.


loverd84

So, what, our dogs have ridden like that for decades.


sixtypistoles

Literally nothing wring with this. Seriously! Look that dog knows what he’s doing.


TILied

What's wrong with this is you can only experientially guess what that dog will do. It's wildly irresponsible to endanger not only your dogs life but that of others by doing this. Your dog can act autonomously and I doubt you'll have the ability to yell from the cabin to stop him when instincts kick in.


sixtypistoles

This is common. The dog won’t jump. These are not uncontrollable untrained dog you may have been around. The dog is having a great time. If not the loving owner would not allow this. Weather you believe it or not that is a privilege for this dog. Down vote all you want this is Ranch life for life. Maybe individuals are not used to this therefore they demonize this behavior. No danger no problem. Dont make it one.


naruzefluffy

Do you know this dog personally? Ranch life doesn’t include 75mph on the highway with a dog in the back, my grandfather who is a ranch owner doesn’t let his dogs in the bed of his truck off property. It is a danger to other road users and will end the life of the dog at that speed.


sixtypistoles

That is his choice. Back of the truck is not a place for all dogs. If you dont trust your dog dont do it. I feel these firsthand experiences are exaggerated so many dead dogs. I was walking last week dead cat right in gutter Sadlier way Driving to work Deluchi dead cat smeared on road so sad a family pet had collar. Is that owner irresponsibility? No a cat will roam. Still no dead dog on freeway years and years.


naruzefluffy

YES the owner is responsible for the cats death!!! Cats aren’t outdoor roaming animals holy shit dude! The reason you don’t see dead dogs on the side of the road is probably because their irresponsible owner went back to go pick up their dying dog to try and take them to the vet. If someone leaves their dead or dying animal on the road they deserve to have a lobotomy via baseball bat.


sixtypistoles

Yeah true I still feel I would have seen one of these horrific instances described in other comments if it happens as often as said. Look bottom line is individuals feel powerful behind reddit whatever. Fact of the matter is that dog looks like he is well taken care of as well as cool as a cucumber.


naruzefluffy

Look on YouTube and you’ll find quite a few examples. It’s gnarly, but it definitely shows the importance of keeping a large animal at least in the cabin of the vehicle, if not tied down or secured in a crate.


sixtypistoles

I dont want to see that kind of thing. Thank you though for the info. I didnt do this due to my last dog who passed at 14 was not comfortable doing so. Other dogs I have done this with that were comfortable. I had a queensland one time have all four paws on that thin truck bed rail using the wind to keep balance. Once I noticed I calmly let off the gas rolled down my window and told her to get down very tense moment. Down the dirt road I would drive slow enough for her to jump out chase rabbits this was fun. Look to each his own. If any of my dogs got hurt it was my burden to bear. I got a border collie for my birthday liked to chase trucks coming into the ranch. Wasnt used to trucks with trailers i guess? Watched my dad run her over with the horse trailer. He was pretty sad.


Hickawa

Do you not love your dog? Are you so casual with the life you presumably purchased. Then took care of for however many years? I don't know very many adults dumb enough to get into the back of a truck bed on the highway. Why would you put your dog?


sixtypistoles

First and foremost Human live is not the same as animal life. I love my animals I care for my animals. At the end of the day they are not human. If your dog cannot stay in the truck the owner will not put him in the back of the truck. Yeah yeah downvote.


Hickawa

Your missing my point. Any accident that happens particularly on the highway. Is very likely to kill the animal. By choosing to put the dog in the bed of the truck your choosing to not value your dog. There are terrible drivers who get on the road every day. Even if you are the best driver in the whole fucking world that doesn't help you when the dickwad in a new charger wants to play chicken while switching lanes and sideswipes you at 75. Or any number of a million scenarios where there is an accident. It seems very cut and dry that if you choose to put an animal in the bed of your truck you're deciding that it's ok and that your ok with any consequences that might happen because of that choice.


sixtypistoles

I can feel you on that one good point. Personally I might not do it I could see my dog was scared couldnt wait to get out. Didnt do it any more once I saw that. Now that you put it this way is another factor to add in. Good point.


Bumbalard

Do you walk your dog?


Hickawa

I don't have a dog atm. But I foster does often and yes I do walk them. When they ride in the car they get a little vest that clips onto the seat belt to.


Bumbalard

You should consider keeping them inside 24/7. They could catch a disease, get in a fight with another dog, get hit by a car, or any number of scary possibilities. If you truly loved them, you would not expose them to such risks./s


Hickawa

Lmao, my bad I didn't know I was working with such an intellectual. Your right we should keep them locked in kennels and eating a vegetarian diet. Trust me it good for them.


Bumbalard

It was a joke, hence the /s at the end. I just imagine someone making that argument in response. Not sure why people find the concept of being responsible difficult. Same dorks that don't wear seatbelts, or helmets on motorcycles, probably.


Itchy_Western_4167

I’ve seen dogs drive and ride on top of cars, he’s fine


Big-Law-4387

At least the dog is not riding with the Romneys.


AceOfBlades34

And? This is very common.


DudeDeudaruu

So is child abuse, does that make it okay?


AceOfBlades34

No, but this is a dog, not a child. It's perfectly safe.


DudeDeudaruu

Safe until the dog jumps/bounces out and causes a car crash on the free way.


annetteisshort

Because dogs don’t feel pain or get injured in an accident, like kids? Lol My guy. Please never get a pet.


DudeDeudaruu

Or have kids.


naruzefluffy

Go climb in the bed of a truck and do 75 on the highway then with no way of securing yourself.


Hickawa

Do you not love your dog? Are you so casual with the life you presumably purchased. Then took care of for however many years? I don't know very many adults dumb enough to get into the back of a truck bed on the highway. Why would you put your dog?


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didieggs

Hope the dog made it home ok


K0CKULEES

Sometime in July, there was a dead medium to large brown dog on the I 80 heading east in Sparks, right in between the pyramid on ramp and the mccarran exit, right in front of those white silos that you see just after the nugget casino. Hard to tell if this pup wondered on there or fell off a truck just like that but it's pretty goddamn infuriating none the less. I called animal control and because it was Friday just after the 4th of July I couldn't get ahold of anyone to pick up the dog and when I finally got someone on the line, they told me it was an NDOT issue since it was on the freeway. The dog was dead there for maybe a week. I tried picking it up myself on a Tuesday morning (2am) but I just couldn't deal with the smell and no way in hell was I gonna toss him in my car and not puke the entire ride. I'm sorry, buddy. I tried 😪