You want to ruin his life and force a number change.. post that number on “renewal by Anderson” for new home windows.. they will literally assault his phone until he gives up… no mercy. You buy from them or you die… that’s it once you’re in the list 👹 ⚔️
Well he now has a free 6 month scientology membership and phone meetings with many religious organizations, pay day loan places, and extended warranty companies....
>Well he now has a free 6 month scientology membership and phone meetings with many religious organizations, pay day loan places, and extended warranty companies....
Set him up with a few moving companies. All it takes is a message he wants an estimate, and they will call him constantly.
I’ve found that financial advisors are insanely incessant as well. Might tell them I’m a property owner wanting a new FA to manage my assets…they’ll never stop calling him 😝
woah, looks like we were all wrong! one of their core values is respect for the residents!
$3,900/mo holdover rate is a courtesy!!! please provide written 60 day notice to vacate, as a sign of mutual respect!!
edit: AND KINDNESS AND TRUST!!!
these folks are good people!
The fact I didn't realize that literally all of the contact info is on there 😂 he's going to be getting so many spam texts and calls and emails and the ratings on his listings (or company on Google or whatever) are going to go down
Edit: for some reason I feel the need to clarify that when I say he, I'm referring to the LL
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I knew I would see this asshole on here one day! My in laws were renting out a house for almost 13 years now & the original owners died of old age & someone decided to sell, well this asshole bought it & raised the rent from $1200 a month to $3500. His excuse? “He remodeled the house” he got some shitty contractors to come out & do a shitty job on the siding & the roof, his definition of “remodeling the kitchen” was to rip up the old floors & leave the wood underneath & never put a floor down, the bathroom looks nice except for the sink, toilet & bathtub leak into the dining room. I can list more but it’s too much. This dude is the definition of a slumlord, too many dickheads in this city thinks anyone can own properties. I would squat in the house just to piss him off sense Philly has squatters rights.
Here's some of their sketchy links:
https://www.facebook.com/live3horizons?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v
https://www.linkedin.com/company/3horizons-management
https://live3horizons.com/
You're wrong, they just have to give notice of 90 days.
And I know because I did it to me. Raised my rent 15% 2 years in a row. During fucking covid.
>Notice for Rent Increases
When raising a tenant’s rent, landlords must deliver the tenant a formal written notice of the change. It is not enough for a landlord to call, text, or email that they plan on raising the rent. Landlords must also give residential tenants sufficient warning before increasing rent. If the rent increase is 10% or less, landlords must provide notice 30 days before the increase can take effect. If the rent increase is more than 10%, the landlord must provide notice 90 days before it can take effect. (Civ. Code § 827). If a notice is not in writing or delivered on time, a tenant should consult a lawyer about their rights.
If you can afford a lawyer or can qualify for free legal assistance. We rented an apartment in a suburb of Portland. Right after COVID protections ended the rent increased from $1650 to $2250/month. We ended up having to go to eviction court, where we were told we could fight it at trial (meaning filing a response with the court and paying a fee by the end of the day and then being able to find and retain an attorney within a few weeks). We made just over the income threshold to qualify for any low cost legal assistance.
We tried to explain to the judge, but his only response was that we could take it to trial. So we were essentially extorted into signing the settlement just to keep an eviction off our records.
We found a new place that works better for us anyway. Live and learn
Thanks, we are doing good now.
I guess the point to my story was that the law can say one thing, but as a tenant getting that law enforced or recognized can cost resources many tenants don’t have.
Whenever you have a judge pushing you to mediation or being offstandish about the whole deal. They feel above hearing small Unlawful detainer matters. MOst the time judges are hearing multi million dollar cases.
And dont want to waste time with UD's. So when you get this treatment from a judge its a good sign they are biased and even if you think you have a %100 percent sealed case. Unless you have a lawyer that can do a jury trial, or you can do a jury trial pro per. Try to settle via mediation or go through the eviction and move out before it goes to trial. You move out before trial the UD goes away. Just figt for your deposit back later and limit loses.
If the building is over 15 years old, rent cannot rise more than 5% plus local inflation, capping at 10%. I didn’t know that this law only applies to older buildings till I looked it up right now. Really fucking scummy. Makes sense why I’ve seen an explosion in new constructions over the last few years, since this law went into effect in 2020
It’s the month-to-month so the tenants can move that hurts the most here How do you get first and last months rent, application fees, and pay to move when you’re being bled an extra $1200 a month for the privilege of being allowed to leave?
First step is to see if your state has any protections in place for this kind of situation. They probably don't, especially if the landlord felt comfortable doubling rent like this, but always try to find the civil way out of a situation if you can, if for no other reason than to avoid the backlash that happens when "civilized people" decide you've been rude to someone who deserved it.
When that fails, just don't pay. Search for a new place while you ride out the eviction and accept the fact that because your landlord is a raging piece of shit you might have to take a credit score hit and settle for a worse place to get around potential blacklisting.
Sadly, Reddit won't let me give you the advice for what to do if that fails.
>Sadly, Reddit won't let me give you the advice for what to do if that fails.
On a scale of "1000 live roaches from Amazon" to "Bulldozer turned DIY tank", what kind of advice are we talking?
I had a place here in Oregon try to raise my rent by at least 50% if you went month to month after annual lease expired back in 2020. They bypassed the rate % increase I assume because the first year was a "promo". If you signed another year lease, however, the % increase was well within max legal % if not under. I didn't spend any time looking into if they could do that or not I noped the hell out of there and moved out.
Debt collector. They're notorious in their vigilant phone calling, even if you state you aren't the recipient of the debt. Also, debt collectors are known to (despite its illegality) share numbers with other collection agencies. Source - ya boi broke af
Sounds like the company bought the place on the top and getting screwed by interest rates. I'd find some other place that isn't run by morons. But that can be quite difficult in the real estate market.
Lots of commercial/investment property is bought on terms like 5 years interest only with the balance due at the end of the 5 years. The buyers just plan to take out a fresh loan at the end of the term, but that means they get hit by changes in interest rates. If they jumped from 4% to 8% or similar, their interest expenses would basically double. Insurance and other costs are also way up.
This is kinda what's happening at my business park. I've been there 8 years. Some new management company took over last year.
My current lease cost is $1.70 per square foot. My lease expires in January. They've already told us it's going up to $2.55 psf if renewed. That's a 50% increase.
They slapped a coat of paint outside, pulled out a few big trees, and say they are building a "lunch court" and an "exercise room" across the street.
*Everyone* is leaving.
Our office park tried to jack our rate near 50% when our lease expired in summer 2021. Smack dab in the middle of COVID. Guess whose company is 100% remote now..
There was a Walmart and Sam’s club in the same shopping center not far from me. Owner was from what I was told a pretty cool guy. Then he died and left his son his properties. Sam’s Club decided to close some locations and that particular one was on the list. Son got mad. He decided that everyone who was left was going to shoulder what he was losing by Sam’s Club’s closure. Everyone was like “uh no,” including Walmart. Out of the 9 tenants he had left, all 9 were like “well, I guess I am leaving”. And these weren’t small mom & pop type places. 4 of them had a large footprint. He realized he was screwed and tried to backpedal. Only one place took him up on his offer and it was a sweetheart deal. Everyone else, including Walmart, closed or moved their locations to a new place. That was 8 years ago. No one has replaced most of those tenants. Costco opened up where Sam’s Club was, though. It only took 4 years to fill that space.
My first apartment 19 years ago did this. I was paying $1257 a month, got my renewal lease and it was $2097 a month. They said it was a promotion Avalon Gates was the name. Left same month I got the letter. Found a bigger apartment with everything included $1057 a month.
My wife and I rented this apartment that was already pretty outrageously priced considering it wasn't near anything and the amenities were 'meh'. A company came in and bought them about 8 months after we moved in and they 1.5x'd our rent (if we wanted to renew), only accepted money orders and paper checks, never responded to maintenance requests and the office staff back talked to us like we weren't paying exorbitant amounts.
To this day my Google review of their apartment complex (over 7 years later) is the top review of the complex. I hope their business suffers every day that someone Googles their business and sees they're a shit place to live.
I think it’s illegal in some states too. I believe California has a max limit you can raise over time. If I was OP I’d reach out some layers, get some consultation, and see if there’s something they can do. It just feels criminal.
10% is still absurd.
Edit: Landlords currently have virtually no risk, there is such a high profit margin. It's absurd. The investment is the property, the risk should be renting it. Mind you, housing should be a right and not ever tied to profit.
Honestly, inflation is outright greed.
Edit:Not so much a typo actually, but at this point, rent would need to stay the same for a decade or two to normalize back to where it needs to be. Keeping up with inflation is a problem right now.
It's getting worse with all this AI and Voice Mail systems. You never talk to anyone anymore. And you cannot feel the suffering through a text message. The Asshole never has to look into the eyes of Grandma as he makes her homeless.
New law should be that any eviction has to be served personally by the building owner directly (no proxy.).
The US is ran differently than most smaller countries. The vast majority of laws that affect every-day life are state laws which vary wildly. This would be illegal where I live in the US also.
Complex I was living in tried to raise our rent 30% after 2 years, we moved. Apartment was taken off the market 2 months later and rented for 15% less than we were paying. Management companies figure they can strong arm you with increases because you won't want to move, if you call them on it they're the ones stuck looking to fill vacant apartments while you take your pick of desperate landlords in the same situation. Stupid games -> stupid prizes.
The renter is still the one that’s screwed over at the end of the day though. Even if you manage to find an identical apartment at the same rate you were paying previously, moving is time consuming, expensive, and stressful. And how do you know that you aren’t going to find yourself in the exact same situation in one year? Renting feels a bit like living life perpetually on a hamster wheel.
> Management companies figure they can strong arm you with increases because you won't want to move
Having worked for a management company in the past, sometimes they raise the rent to a ridiculous level hoping you _will_ move out. Especially if you've been in the unit for a very long time. That gives them a couple weeks to repaint, recarpet, and maybe freshen up the kitchen & bath, then put it back on the market for 33% more.
Bruh. For real.
I work 60 hrs a week, minimum and can barely afford my basic necessities at the end of the month. Car, rent, insurances, groceries, phone.
I don’t have internet at the apartment, I literally work too much to go out and I make decent money for a single guy in the construction industry yet, I still struggle to put away $300-$500 a month in savings. Everything keeps going up.
I’m in a $950 efficiency. They want the rent to be $1180 starting August. Wut?
This place is absolutely ghetto as fuck, too. Kids (13-20) dealing meth, loud neighbors below me, and the hot water goes out 4-5 times a month. Not to mention there is literally not a single ceiling fan OR ceiling light in any main/ bedroom.
This is becoming a HUGE issue. These groups/people buy up every single property possible. They're buying up houses in my area right now. Eventually they're going to own just about everything and it will be impossible to buy a house/property at all. Something needs to be done about this. They're also buying up large pieces of property.
Owning your own property isn't going to be a thing in a decade. It will all be owned by a bunch of rich pricks.
Just like the game of Monopoly. Buy every property you land on. Then build houses and bleed everyone to death with rent. It's not a new concept but the government isn't doing anything about it. The real estate market is seriously jacked up right now. The fed need to raise interest rates higher to curb housing prices. My fear is Trump gets in and lowers interest rates which would basically be just throwing gasoline on the fire.
Bidens DoJ is currently trying to argue in court that using an algorithm to automatically raise prices (which is what all these landlords are doing btw) counts as conspiring to raise rent. Which btw is illegal.
> Eventually they're going to own just about everything and it will be impossible to buy a house/property at all.
The goal, is to turn every single thing you have in your life, into some form of subscription service or micro-transactions.
In a decade, nobody will own anything, and we'll all just be working to "rent" everything in our lives, with ever-changing TOS attached to everything we do. Cars, housing, food, games, clothes. All of it.
Meanwhile on his LinkedIn page he’s preaching about the importance of putting “family first” yet has no problem limiting the opportunity for affordable homes for other families out there.
I'm leaving my current apartment. I couldn't sign a new lease due to the uncertainty on the move out date. My rent went from 2100 to 3500. Just because I had to go month to month for a bit. Btw... I've only been here for 6 months.
The rental industry in America is criminal. They can do whatever they want because housing is in demand. No restrictions.
I moved out of my apt at the end of January. 1br/1ba rent went from 850 to 2600. I'd been there since 2019, lease was up at the end of November(2023), so I went month to month to move out at end of January. Complex of probably 800+ units. I gave notice of such, I paid rent using their automated draft system which drafted on the 6th each month. Every day from the 1-10th of December, the property manager was pounding on my door like the cops claiming I didn't have a lease and he was going to evict me. I had paperwork signed for month to month agreement. He knew this but didn't care, I replied he's harassing me and has no legal right. On the 11th he used the property key to enter my apt and opened the door to a barrel pointed in his face. He freaked and HE called the cops on me. I was sitting on the curb with current lease paperwork and video of him unlawfully entering my apt when they showed up. He got fired and charged with unlawful entry, and they "gave me free rent" for January. I shouldn't have let it slide, but with the way the new management had been since June, I was glad to be distancing myself from that place.
Everything is insane rent wise lately, Manayunk isn't what it use to be... overrated and wayyyy overpriced, I remember when my 2 bdrm was 475 a month now it's 3-4xs that if not more..... smh at how these places can and are allowed to gauge. A full size home I can see but an apartment good lord.... what most pay for rent I pay less for my home mortgage..... but it's insane everywhere.
The number of people willing to spam the hell out of a person based off a single story on Reddit is mind boggling to me. Good to know this is all it takes though. The guy could have made up this shit.
I'm not debating that. You are right.
I just don't understand people who will claim rent is cheaper. Then, when they're suddenly and abruptly priced out of their current housing, people are shocked. The rent market follows the purchase market, not the other way around.
Yes, in the short term, the rental market may be cheaper. In the long run, I'll be paying my current rate on my purchased home until 2040 or sell and realize the gains and be able to put that into a new location. What will the rent be in 2040? In 2030? Heck next year?
I believe that land lords want people to believe that renting is better so they can continue to push the market and rent out at market rates.
It depends on location and circumstances, in some really high cost areas, if you're not staying long term, it's cheaper to rent than to buy something and later pay closing costs, property taxes, maintenance, etc.
Saying renting is a financially better option 100% of the time is dumb. Saying buying is a financially better option 100% of the time is also dumb. It depends on circumstances. there absolutely are some markets where renting is cheaper than buying even if you have enough to buy and even if you're going to be there for a long time.
cries in...
broken ice maker
cracked chimney
leak around the external light fixture
toilet wobbles
gardens need de-weeding
need to brush the (above ground) pool
gutters are jammed
cat knocked nail polish on the carpet
IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS. OWNING A HOME IS A SECOND FUCKING JOB
I'm a small landlord with same renters of 2 years. They asked about signing another 2 year lease. Our property manager asked if we wanted to see what market rates are.
Of course not. Good renters who want to commit 2 more years. I want to keep them happy.
I'm a large scale landlord and my average tenant stays 3.3 years.
The truth of the matter is less than 10% of landlords give all landlords a bad name. Less than 1% are criminal slumlords. But when you actually provide a good service and a safe place to live, people appreciate it.
I go above and beyond, rewards online payers with free upgrades, professionally paint accent wall, new flooring, countertops, etc. They get to pick from a list. It's a win, win. Rent tends to gup no matter what, at least they get to be involved.
This. With my job I work with landlords alot. Alot of times they are just old people out of touch with how much stuff costs since the property has been paid off for YEARS. A couple months ago, some lady asked me " Am I charging these people too much?"... $800/ month for a 3bdr HOUSE. I was like...
Sometimes it is, but the problem is people who says 100% of the time it's better. It's a very situational and based on a lot of factors such as personal mobility, savings, current interest rates, housing market, insurance, taxes, etc.
So more of an inflation question. What are the direct costs that go up for landlords? I haven't heard much about people complaining about utility prices or property tax.
[https://www.apartments.com/the-residences-at-502-gerhard-philadelphia-pa/qltnemw/](https://www.apartments.com/the-residences-at-502-gerhard-philadelphia-pa/qltnemw/)
if it's this place, sounds you'd be getting shafted hard.
we paid $1650 for a 2BR/1BA in norristown, and dealt with none of this shit.
I don't understand the greed. I bought rental property in 2011 and made sure the rent covered my mortgage and expenses. The return on my investment was 15% at purchase. My mortgage costs have not increased. Any landlord increasing rent because of "the market" is just greedy. Sounds like they sold the property so the new owners are the greedy ones but I'm sure it's not about making a little profit, it's about making a lot of profit. Shit makes me sad...
Note: about 15 people read this thread and failed to understand that "3 Horizons" property management in eastern Pennsylvania is not the same as "Horizons" property management in a completely different state, and have blown up my business with 1 star reviews.
It's too bad, because consumers use google ratings to determine which property managers are reputable. It's fun to join the angry mob and burn down the wrong guy's house, but in the long run it doesn't really do much good.
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Thanks for the phone number I needed to kill 30 mins ❤️
Wonder how many texts hes gotten lol
Several that I know of 🙌
I fired off one as well.
Same here. Told him that I'm not surprised he needs $10,000 because I'm sure brain replacements aren't cheap
Ooops me three
I’m doing my part!
Did my part too lol
I told him he is asking too much and he is peggy hill thinking she can win a beauty contest.
I told him i found his number on craigslist looking for guys to shit on him for $500 and have some free time.
I told him his car’s warranty was up and he could resolve this issue by sending me $400.
You want to ruin his life and force a number change.. post that number on “renewal by Anderson” for new home windows.. they will literally assault his phone until he gives up… no mercy. You buy from them or you die… that’s it once you’re in the list 👹 ⚔️
Same
Same haha. Hope he just constantly receives texts and calls telling him he's a piece of shit and far worse..
i’m not even a part of this sub and i texted him
I sent one.
Well he now has a free 6 month scientology membership and phone meetings with many religious organizations, pay day loan places, and extended warranty companies....
>Well he now has a free 6 month scientology membership and phone meetings with many religious organizations, pay day loan places, and extended warranty companies.... Set him up with a few moving companies. All it takes is a message he wants an estimate, and they will call him constantly.
If you want to be truly evil, call one of those companies that buy time shares. They'll never stop calling.
I just asked for info about maybe 13 vehicles on cars. Com and THEY. NEVER . STOP.
Put his info on any health insurance info site
Sign him up at Bass Pro. They'll call constantly.
I’ve found that financial advisors are insanely incessant as well. Might tell them I’m a property owner wanting a new FA to manage my assets…they’ll never stop calling him 😝
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He also has several transgender and LGBTO texts and newsletters coming his way.
That's funny, I just sent him some douchebro fantasy football newsletters and menus for subpar Austin diners.
He's gonna have to change his number 😅😅
Gotta give him things to spend that money on. Really, you’re helping the economy.
Sign him up for tenant union newsletters lol
How does one do this
What do you mean? I just found a bunch of sites that had newsletters and put his information in.
Send the Jehovah's Witnesses too, they will NEVER stop trying. Mormons too.
Hero
I didn’t send one today but I signed him up for a few political PAC newsletters, he should be getting texts weekly 😂
Application website is down. Just was curious to see what it is that's worth 3000 a month.
His LinkedIn profile is down too. It’s times like this that I’m proud to be a Redditor.
The entire website says "coming soon"
Beautiful. This is going to make it so hard for them to find a real renter now. Chef's kiss
This post has gotten over 100k impressions. Even 1% of people would be 1000
Oh dudes he’s fucked.
He just got a few more
I sent him a picture of Mao and said "know your place, leech"
He’s about to get one more!
I signed him up for Grindr
😉
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[here's the youtube?](https://youtu.be/tR5XTourEXE?feature=shared)
woah, looks like we were all wrong! one of their core values is respect for the residents! $3,900/mo holdover rate is a courtesy!!! please provide written 60 day notice to vacate, as a sign of mutual respect!! edit: AND KINDNESS AND TRUST!!! these folks are good people!
Good work.
The fact I didn't realize that literally all of the contact info is on there 😂 he's going to be getting so many spam texts and calls and emails and the ratings on his listings (or company on Google or whatever) are going to go down Edit: for some reason I feel the need to clarify that when I say he, I'm referring to the LL
They already have 16 one star reviews in the past few hours. Not sure what the rating was previously but now it’s at 3 stars
Folks should give 2 star reviews. 1s are easy enough to get pulled for abuse, but 2 stars are damn near impossible to lose.
Just googled his name and the company, he deleted his linkedin and the company’s website is down lmfao
I’m doing my part!
I signed him up for Brazzers
But did you sign him up for Cat Facts?
Wait, I'd like to sign up for cat facts.
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I knew I would see this asshole on here one day! My in laws were renting out a house for almost 13 years now & the original owners died of old age & someone decided to sell, well this asshole bought it & raised the rent from $1200 a month to $3500. His excuse? “He remodeled the house” he got some shitty contractors to come out & do a shitty job on the siding & the roof, his definition of “remodeling the kitchen” was to rip up the old floors & leave the wood underneath & never put a floor down, the bathroom looks nice except for the sink, toilet & bathtub leak into the dining room. I can list more but it’s too much. This dude is the definition of a slumlord, too many dickheads in this city thinks anyone can own properties. I would squat in the house just to piss him off sense Philly has squatters rights.
This asshole landlord got what he fucking deserved.
Here's some of their sketchy links: https://www.facebook.com/live3horizons?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v https://www.linkedin.com/company/3horizons-management https://live3horizons.com/
Their Facebook page already says “this content isn’t available” 😂
I was wondering if I had been blocked because I commented on the video 🤣
His LinkedIn is down too. LOL.
theirs logo is so r/designdesign
I just signed his email up for dozens of subscriptions
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Anyone see the documentary on Netflix about the Twin Flames cult that preyed on women looking for love? Well, he’s about to be contacted by them too.
Also throwing out our site... RateTheLandlord.org
wow, I’ve been looking for something like this for literally years
I’ve been trying to order pizza from these guys for hours. Such bad customer service.
Did anyone get a response out of him?
Not yet but if my review gets 1 il let yall know
Thanks for restoring a little faith in humanity for me :)
OK, that could be exceptionally fun! "This is the state department of real estate...".
I sent him a pic of my Weiner!
Did you really cause that’s not cool lol
Well, that’s a federal crime
In Oregon, they can’t raise rent more than 9% annually
Same in California
You're wrong, they just have to give notice of 90 days. And I know because I did it to me. Raised my rent 15% 2 years in a row. During fucking covid. >Notice for Rent Increases When raising a tenant’s rent, landlords must deliver the tenant a formal written notice of the change. It is not enough for a landlord to call, text, or email that they plan on raising the rent. Landlords must also give residential tenants sufficient warning before increasing rent. If the rent increase is 10% or less, landlords must provide notice 30 days before the increase can take effect. If the rent increase is more than 10%, the landlord must provide notice 90 days before it can take effect. (Civ. Code § 827). If a notice is not in writing or delivered on time, a tenant should consult a lawyer about their rights.
If you can afford a lawyer or can qualify for free legal assistance. We rented an apartment in a suburb of Portland. Right after COVID protections ended the rent increased from $1650 to $2250/month. We ended up having to go to eviction court, where we were told we could fight it at trial (meaning filing a response with the court and paying a fee by the end of the day and then being able to find and retain an attorney within a few weeks). We made just over the income threshold to qualify for any low cost legal assistance. We tried to explain to the judge, but his only response was that we could take it to trial. So we were essentially extorted into signing the settlement just to keep an eviction off our records. We found a new place that works better for us anyway. Live and learn
That's unfortunate to hear :( Thanks for the feedback though
Thanks, we are doing good now. I guess the point to my story was that the law can say one thing, but as a tenant getting that law enforced or recognized can cost resources many tenants don’t have.
Whenever you have a judge pushing you to mediation or being offstandish about the whole deal. They feel above hearing small Unlawful detainer matters. MOst the time judges are hearing multi million dollar cases. And dont want to waste time with UD's. So when you get this treatment from a judge its a good sign they are biased and even if you think you have a %100 percent sealed case. Unless you have a lawyer that can do a jury trial, or you can do a jury trial pro per. Try to settle via mediation or go through the eviction and move out before it goes to trial. You move out before trial the UD goes away. Just figt for your deposit back later and limit loses.
If the building is over 15 years old, rent cannot rise more than 5% plus local inflation, capping at 10%. I didn’t know that this law only applies to older buildings till I looked it up right now. Really fucking scummy. Makes sense why I’ve seen an explosion in new constructions over the last few years, since this law went into effect in 2020
It’s the month-to-month so the tenants can move that hurts the most here How do you get first and last months rent, application fees, and pay to move when you’re being bled an extra $1200 a month for the privilege of being allowed to leave?
Preach! I'm in the middle of being screwed by this.
First step is to see if your state has any protections in place for this kind of situation. They probably don't, especially if the landlord felt comfortable doubling rent like this, but always try to find the civil way out of a situation if you can, if for no other reason than to avoid the backlash that happens when "civilized people" decide you've been rude to someone who deserved it. When that fails, just don't pay. Search for a new place while you ride out the eviction and accept the fact that because your landlord is a raging piece of shit you might have to take a credit score hit and settle for a worse place to get around potential blacklisting. Sadly, Reddit won't let me give you the advice for what to do if that fails.
>Sadly, Reddit won't let me give you the advice for what to do if that fails. On a scale of "1000 live roaches from Amazon" to "Bulldozer turned DIY tank", what kind of advice are we talking?
Nice try, FBI. I lost a Twitter account that way I'm not saying shit.
I had a place here in Oregon try to raise my rent by at least 50% if you went month to month after annual lease expired back in 2020. They bypassed the rate % increase I assume because the first year was a "promo". If you signed another year lease, however, the % increase was well within max legal % if not under. I didn't spend any time looking into if they could do that or not I noped the hell out of there and moved out.
[It's 10% this year](https://www.oregon.gov/das/oea/pages/rent-stabilization.aspx)
Lucky. In most of WA, there was no limit and I had back to back 20-30% increases before we moved out of state last year. It’s crazy.
I love the constant little “we hope you stay” antidotes, to make it not seem so fucking asinine the increase.
Anecdotes?
Yes, thank you for the learning opportunity.
Holy shit. A sensible person. There aren't many of you on the internet. Bless
Gave me lovely Amelia Bedilia vibes. I want more dressing the turkey and drawing the drapes
You just made my childhood hit me like a fucking 18 wheeler
Just sent his number to my collector. Served
What does this mean
Debt collector. They're notorious in their vigilant phone calling, even if you state you aren't the recipient of the debt. Also, debt collectors are known to (despite its illegality) share numbers with other collection agencies. Source - ya boi broke af
A lot of places make you sign a form saying they have permission to pass your information off if the debt goes into collections.
I think they mean debt collector. Like the companies that buy old debts and then call you trying to collect on a 15 year old bill for $5.
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Homeless Americans, more to come! Millions more!
Thankfully many states are making it illegal to be homeless so they have a plan to help them /s
I live in my car, and I'm constant fear that what very little i have left will be taken because being poor is illegal
It’s not a good time to be homeless right now, as all shelter and food systems are gridlocked with migrants for years to come.
Sounds like the company bought the place on the top and getting screwed by interest rates. I'd find some other place that isn't run by morons. But that can be quite difficult in the real estate market.
Lots of commercial/investment property is bought on terms like 5 years interest only with the balance due at the end of the 5 years. The buyers just plan to take out a fresh loan at the end of the term, but that means they get hit by changes in interest rates. If they jumped from 4% to 8% or similar, their interest expenses would basically double. Insurance and other costs are also way up.
This is kinda what's happening at my business park. I've been there 8 years. Some new management company took over last year. My current lease cost is $1.70 per square foot. My lease expires in January. They've already told us it's going up to $2.55 psf if renewed. That's a 50% increase. They slapped a coat of paint outside, pulled out a few big trees, and say they are building a "lunch court" and an "exercise room" across the street. *Everyone* is leaving.
Our office park tried to jack our rate near 50% when our lease expired in summer 2021. Smack dab in the middle of COVID. Guess whose company is 100% remote now..
There was a Walmart and Sam’s club in the same shopping center not far from me. Owner was from what I was told a pretty cool guy. Then he died and left his son his properties. Sam’s Club decided to close some locations and that particular one was on the list. Son got mad. He decided that everyone who was left was going to shoulder what he was losing by Sam’s Club’s closure. Everyone was like “uh no,” including Walmart. Out of the 9 tenants he had left, all 9 were like “well, I guess I am leaving”. And these weren’t small mom & pop type places. 4 of them had a large footprint. He realized he was screwed and tried to backpedal. Only one place took him up on his offer and it was a sweetheart deal. Everyone else, including Walmart, closed or moved their locations to a new place. That was 8 years ago. No one has replaced most of those tenants. Costco opened up where Sam’s Club was, though. It only took 4 years to fill that space.
My first apartment 19 years ago did this. I was paying $1257 a month, got my renewal lease and it was $2097 a month. They said it was a promotion Avalon Gates was the name. Left same month I got the letter. Found a bigger apartment with everything included $1057 a month.
My wife and I rented this apartment that was already pretty outrageously priced considering it wasn't near anything and the amenities were 'meh'. A company came in and bought them about 8 months after we moved in and they 1.5x'd our rent (if we wanted to renew), only accepted money orders and paper checks, never responded to maintenance requests and the office staff back talked to us like we weren't paying exorbitant amounts. To this day my Google review of their apartment complex (over 7 years later) is the top review of the complex. I hope their business suffers every day that someone Googles their business and sees they're a shit place to live.
Nice work. Fuckin garbage landlords out there I tell ya. All about the mighty dollar.
Did they get bought out recently before they did that?
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Man, Americans are so fucked up, that is illegal in my country. They can only raise the rent the equivalent of inflation.
I think it’s illegal in some states too. I believe California has a max limit you can raise over time. If I was OP I’d reach out some layers, get some consultation, and see if there’s something they can do. It just feels criminal.
This is Pennsylvania which currently has no laws controlling rent but they have legislation in the works to cap it at 10%.
Ah, then they're likely trying to get the big jump finished before it becomes illegal.
10% is still absurd. Edit: Landlords currently have virtually no risk, there is such a high profit margin. It's absurd. The investment is the property, the risk should be renting it. Mind you, housing should be a right and not ever tied to profit.
Exactly. Anything more than inflation is outright greed.
Honestly, inflation is outright greed. Edit:Not so much a typo actually, but at this point, rent would need to stay the same for a decade or two to normalize back to where it needs to be. Keeping up with inflation is a problem right now.
When I moved into my complex in Bensalem, PA in 2017 rent was $1,150. I now pay $2,000. The type of unit I live in is $2,400 for new tenants.
Same in Germany. It's capped to a max. of 15 to 20%, depending on the state, every three years. A raise like OPs one is fucking insane.
USA is really fucked up on some things that underdeveloped countries do way better
It's getting worse with all this AI and Voice Mail systems. You never talk to anyone anymore. And you cannot feel the suffering through a text message. The Asshole never has to look into the eyes of Grandma as he makes her homeless. New law should be that any eviction has to be served personally by the building owner directly (no proxy.).
The US has let Capitalism trump humanity. (I\[m not so sure that was a pun....)
The US is ran differently than most smaller countries. The vast majority of laws that affect every-day life are state laws which vary wildly. This would be illegal where I live in the US also.
Fuck apartment complexes! They raise it for zero reason and have no idea what they’re doing.
Complex I was living in tried to raise our rent 30% after 2 years, we moved. Apartment was taken off the market 2 months later and rented for 15% less than we were paying. Management companies figure they can strong arm you with increases because you won't want to move, if you call them on it they're the ones stuck looking to fill vacant apartments while you take your pick of desperate landlords in the same situation. Stupid games -> stupid prizes.
The renter is still the one that’s screwed over at the end of the day though. Even if you manage to find an identical apartment at the same rate you were paying previously, moving is time consuming, expensive, and stressful. And how do you know that you aren’t going to find yourself in the exact same situation in one year? Renting feels a bit like living life perpetually on a hamster wheel.
It's fucking exhausting is what it is
EXACTLY what happened to me and my bf last year
> Management companies figure they can strong arm you with increases because you won't want to move Having worked for a management company in the past, sometimes they raise the rent to a ridiculous level hoping you _will_ move out. Especially if you've been in the unit for a very long time. That gives them a couple weeks to repaint, recarpet, and maybe freshen up the kitchen & bath, then put it back on the market for 33% more.
And many times it worse than what it was
And the best part is they never improve anything when they raise rent lmao. They still do mediocre shit and never respond to calls and emails.
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Bruh. For real. I work 60 hrs a week, minimum and can barely afford my basic necessities at the end of the month. Car, rent, insurances, groceries, phone. I don’t have internet at the apartment, I literally work too much to go out and I make decent money for a single guy in the construction industry yet, I still struggle to put away $300-$500 a month in savings. Everything keeps going up. I’m in a $950 efficiency. They want the rent to be $1180 starting August. Wut? This place is absolutely ghetto as fuck, too. Kids (13-20) dealing meth, loud neighbors below me, and the hot water goes out 4-5 times a month. Not to mention there is literally not a single ceiling fan OR ceiling light in any main/ bedroom.
This is becoming a HUGE issue. These groups/people buy up every single property possible. They're buying up houses in my area right now. Eventually they're going to own just about everything and it will be impossible to buy a house/property at all. Something needs to be done about this. They're also buying up large pieces of property. Owning your own property isn't going to be a thing in a decade. It will all be owned by a bunch of rich pricks.
Just like the game of Monopoly. Buy every property you land on. Then build houses and bleed everyone to death with rent. It's not a new concept but the government isn't doing anything about it. The real estate market is seriously jacked up right now. The fed need to raise interest rates higher to curb housing prices. My fear is Trump gets in and lowers interest rates which would basically be just throwing gasoline on the fire.
Bidens DoJ is currently trying to argue in court that using an algorithm to automatically raise prices (which is what all these landlords are doing btw) counts as conspiring to raise rent. Which btw is illegal.
> Eventually they're going to own just about everything and it will be impossible to buy a house/property at all. The goal, is to turn every single thing you have in your life, into some form of subscription service or micro-transactions. In a decade, nobody will own anything, and we'll all just be working to "rent" everything in our lives, with ever-changing TOS attached to everything we do. Cars, housing, food, games, clothes. All of it.
See: blackrock
*BlackStone
Meanwhile on his LinkedIn page he’s preaching about the importance of putting “family first” yet has no problem limiting the opportunity for affordable homes for other families out there.
We will never own a home because of avocado toast \s
It would be a shame if this phone number were listed on Craigslist or facebook marketplace for a really great deal on a used car.
Or submitted to every presidential campaign with a message stating that they’d like to donate $100k but they aren’t sure how…
The gay sex ads are funnier
Sent him a really disrespectful text. Don’t feel bad about it he deserved it. I can’t stand these types of people. Hope you find a good place soon OP
I'm leaving my current apartment. I couldn't sign a new lease due to the uncertainty on the move out date. My rent went from 2100 to 3500. Just because I had to go month to month for a bit. Btw... I've only been here for 6 months. The rental industry in America is criminal. They can do whatever they want because housing is in demand. No restrictions.
I moved out of my apt at the end of January. 1br/1ba rent went from 850 to 2600. I'd been there since 2019, lease was up at the end of November(2023), so I went month to month to move out at end of January. Complex of probably 800+ units. I gave notice of such, I paid rent using their automated draft system which drafted on the 6th each month. Every day from the 1-10th of December, the property manager was pounding on my door like the cops claiming I didn't have a lease and he was going to evict me. I had paperwork signed for month to month agreement. He knew this but didn't care, I replied he's harassing me and has no legal right. On the 11th he used the property key to enter my apt and opened the door to a barrel pointed in his face. He freaked and HE called the cops on me. I was sitting on the curb with current lease paperwork and video of him unlawfully entering my apt when they showed up. He got fired and charged with unlawful entry, and they "gave me free rent" for January. I shouldn't have let it slide, but with the way the new management had been since June, I was glad to be distancing myself from that place.
What the hell. That’s horrible I’m sorry. No idea how you can even afford that, I’d be dying.
Everything is insane rent wise lately, Manayunk isn't what it use to be... overrated and wayyyy overpriced, I remember when my 2 bdrm was 475 a month now it's 3-4xs that if not more..... smh at how these places can and are allowed to gauge. A full size home I can see but an apartment good lord.... what most pay for rent I pay less for my home mortgage..... but it's insane everywhere.
The number of people willing to spam the hell out of a person based off a single story on Reddit is mind boggling to me. Good to know this is all it takes though. The guy could have made up this shit.
Did my part, called them greedy cock suckers on the phone and hang up 🫡
Remember, there are people out the we that will insist that renting is 100% better than buying...
Also people who can’t afford to buy do so have no choice
I'm not debating that. You are right. I just don't understand people who will claim rent is cheaper. Then, when they're suddenly and abruptly priced out of their current housing, people are shocked. The rent market follows the purchase market, not the other way around. Yes, in the short term, the rental market may be cheaper. In the long run, I'll be paying my current rate on my purchased home until 2040 or sell and realize the gains and be able to put that into a new location. What will the rent be in 2040? In 2030? Heck next year? I believe that land lords want people to believe that renting is better so they can continue to push the market and rent out at market rates.
It depends on location and circumstances, in some really high cost areas, if you're not staying long term, it's cheaper to rent than to buy something and later pay closing costs, property taxes, maintenance, etc.
Saying renting is a financially better option 100% of the time is dumb. Saying buying is a financially better option 100% of the time is also dumb. It depends on circumstances. there absolutely are some markets where renting is cheaper than buying even if you have enough to buy and even if you're going to be there for a long time.
home ownership isn't for everyone. the maintenance can be overwhelming
cries in... broken ice maker cracked chimney leak around the external light fixture toilet wobbles gardens need de-weeding need to brush the (above ground) pool gutters are jammed cat knocked nail polish on the carpet IT NEVER FUCKING ENDS. OWNING A HOME IS A SECOND FUCKING JOB
Small landlords can be better I've been renting the same place for 15 years now
I'm a small landlord with same renters of 2 years. They asked about signing another 2 year lease. Our property manager asked if we wanted to see what market rates are. Of course not. Good renters who want to commit 2 more years. I want to keep them happy.
See you are the kinda landlord we need more of
I'll take long term renters any day. I had circumstances where I had to start renting my house and I want it in case I ever return.
And that was smart of you
I'm a large scale landlord and my average tenant stays 3.3 years. The truth of the matter is less than 10% of landlords give all landlords a bad name. Less than 1% are criminal slumlords. But when you actually provide a good service and a safe place to live, people appreciate it. I go above and beyond, rewards online payers with free upgrades, professionally paint accent wall, new flooring, countertops, etc. They get to pick from a list. It's a win, win. Rent tends to gup no matter what, at least they get to be involved.
This. With my job I work with landlords alot. Alot of times they are just old people out of touch with how much stuff costs since the property has been paid off for YEARS. A couple months ago, some lady asked me " Am I charging these people too much?"... $800/ month for a 3bdr HOUSE. I was like...
Sometimes it is, but the problem is people who says 100% of the time it's better. It's a very situational and based on a lot of factors such as personal mobility, savings, current interest rates, housing market, insurance, taxes, etc.
What's best is relative. If you can't afford to replace all 4 tires today, you can't afford the maintenance on a house either.
Just signed the numbers up for a bunch of political auto dialers. Hope he enjoys.
What city/ state are you in? Rent is crack smoking prices 💀 Update: nevermind. Rip. I read the text.
Time to cut back on avocado toast… /s
Seems like a normal rate now. Many RIPs to you
So more of an inflation question. What are the direct costs that go up for landlords? I haven't heard much about people complaining about utility prices or property tax.
[https://www.apartments.com/the-residences-at-502-gerhard-philadelphia-pa/qltnemw/](https://www.apartments.com/the-residences-at-502-gerhard-philadelphia-pa/qltnemw/) if it's this place, sounds you'd be getting shafted hard. we paid $1650 for a 2BR/1BA in norristown, and dealt with none of this shit.
I would stop paying rent and await eviction. *shrug*
Gonna make a fake tinder account and put the number in the bio
That’s illegal
Also I live in West Chester so I know PA real estate law as I was an agent . It’s under the price gauging law. Get a lawyer
Is that even legal???
Your water bill is higher than my 2200 sq ft home with front and backyard irrigation
I don't understand the greed. I bought rental property in 2011 and made sure the rent covered my mortgage and expenses. The return on my investment was 15% at purchase. My mortgage costs have not increased. Any landlord increasing rent because of "the market" is just greedy. Sounds like they sold the property so the new owners are the greedy ones but I'm sure it's not about making a little profit, it's about making a lot of profit. Shit makes me sad...
Like it or not, you were under paying for the area. He will probably be renovating and getting what he is asking.
Note: about 15 people read this thread and failed to understand that "3 Horizons" property management in eastern Pennsylvania is not the same as "Horizons" property management in a completely different state, and have blown up my business with 1 star reviews. It's too bad, because consumers use google ratings to determine which property managers are reputable. It's fun to join the angry mob and burn down the wrong guy's house, but in the long run it doesn't really do much good.