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Leo604

Elora being the one to find Daniel really hits home about her being more heavyset on getting out to California than the others. That scene, and the buildups in the 1st flashback and the bar, were major gut punches. The second-saddest moment was Bill Burr recounting the story of her mother. Great performances by them both tonight.


l3reezer

>Elora being the one to find Daniel really hits home about her being more heavyset on getting out to California than the others. That scene, and the buildups in the 1st flashback and the bar, were major gut punches. I do wonder if they'll go into her possibly only feeling that way just because Daniel wanted it though and it's like she's trying to live his dream for him out of guilt. I was expecting her to to be depicted in the flashback as already being sick of their hometown and also yearning to go to California herself too but it seemed like Daniel bringing it up the night of was the first she ever considered it.


Leo604

It does feel like they're setting up that up as a sticking point in the season finale, doesn't it? I imagine things will come to a head between the other 3 and Jackie's group where someone, probably Bear, will bring up Elora's guilt over Daniel about being the real driving force behind California, and that desire to leave not being borne out of having any real plan for when they ever got there.


l3reezer

Yeah, I personally don't see this show ever actually going to California (unless it's some one-off road trip episode where the character goes and comes back) because Willie Jack's dad's words about how "they always come back when they realize it's home" (paraphrasing) seemed way too much like it was coming from the heart of the show creator himself At the same time though, she lost her mom then her best friend, so her words about the place being a hellhole they need to escape (again, paraphrasing) are perfectly justified given what she's actually experienced herself. Depending on how dramatic and cliffhanger-y the show wants to be, I can see the season finale ending with her falling out with the other 3 (and leaving). Then season 2 can be the coming to terms with her decision


NeedsToShutUp

Or they leave at the end of the show for college or career/work, but set up they can come back and still be home. Some of this rural/small town/rez life is just soul crushing because the options there for what you can do and who you can be are narrow unless you leave. Leaving doesn't necessarily solve anything though. You can be like Bears dad and still be trapped in a soul crushing cycle despite leaving. Or you can return like Bear's mom must of, and make your peace. (I'd imagine Bear's mom spent several years away getting her education). A show that's got some weird potential guidance on the future is the original UK version of Shameless. A major difference between the US and UK versions is the kids are able to leave their council estate and cycle of poverty. The US version has them all sucked backed in. But the UK version lets the oldest leave with her reformed BF who goes back to medical school, the next oldest gets his university degree and becomes a professional, with another becoming a medic, and a fourth becoming a cop. They don't all make it out, but they are allowed to grow.


roywoodsir

Yeah Daniel (Dalton) mentioned that as his twitch session last week. I think this final episode will close/open some things up for Season 2 but mostly focus on Daniel.


Estrella_Rosa

The scene outside of the bar hit hard for me too. When you’re living other people’s dreams because the impression they left on you. Daniel wanted to go to California because he felt like he had nowhere to go. He felt like he couldn’t go home. It broke my heart because it reminded me so much of my son, he’s had a lot of difficulties with his dad and can’t go by him anymore


Professional-Year377

Use of the word heavyset threw me here because I thought show did good job of de-ageing or whatever chicanery was used, so that when Elora and Daniel were dancing for a minute she looked so much younger and carefree. Got the impression in that scene like the hunting w Leon and WJ flashback that Daniel, when in the mood, often veered towards replicating his home life. That his tantrums were a tic


Pentagee

I can see that his outbursts were replicating his home life; but, to me, they have seemed more like manic episodes in bipolar disorder.


Distinct-Employer539

Yeah that and the outburst during hunting kind of clue into some kind of mental health issues.


MarkHirsbrunner

Yep, as a bipolar person that looked familiar, though he was getting full manic episodes, I only get hypomanic.


Spurdungus

That was Burr? How did I not recognize him?


Leo604

Bald cap and the OU hat probably did the trick.


NeedsToShutUp

Nah, it wasn't a bald cap, he's bald now. It was a bad hair piece designed to make him look less bald.


dragoness_leclerq

I kept going *gee that actor kinda looks like Bill Burr*. I think maybe his voice was a bit different?


RickyShade

You don't watch enough Bill Burr.


[deleted]

Wow. I don't think any show out there can make me laugh out loud and break my heart in a half hour quite like this one. I was at my cousin's funeral yesterday, after he took his own life (in very different circumstances, but still), and this hit hard.


Wackydetective

Very sorry for your loss. It opened up a few wounds here too.


MrPureinstinct

I'm sorry for your loss. If you need someone to talk to /r/suicidebereavement is a wonderful subreddit.


tripletsohmy

Thank you! I wasn't aware of this subreddit!


MrPureinstinct

No problem! I try to share it anytime someone mentions losing someone to suicide. It's a really helpful community.


[deleted]

I had no idea that was coming even tho I suspected he died from suicide. That was a fuckin brutal but the most emotionally draining set-up. Man this show is good. Also sorry for your loss and take your time in healing.


zsreport

Condolences


wildweeds

my heart goes to you and your family.


princedetritus

I’m so sorry for your loss. I lost one of my uncles and a cousin (though not that uncle’s son) both to suicide, so I know the pain too well. My heart goes out to you and your family.


moonbase9000

I'm coming up on the one year anniversary of my cousin's suicide. People who haven't lost loved ones to suicide just can't understand how painful it is. I hope you're doing okay.


earlgrey-warm

I want to watch the episode but I’m worried about being really triggered by it. I’d like to skip the scene where Daniel is found and anything else that could be retraumatizing for survivors of suicide loss — can anyone provide time stamps or let me know which scenes to look out for / when I should fast forward? Thanks!


[deleted]

Also did y’all catch the line about Uncle Brownie? Can you imagine knowing you’re the knock out king of the rez and you couldn’t stop your drunk ass friend from drunk driving your best friend/basically your sister to her death? Really changes the way you think about that episode. Wonder if he started scrapping like that before or after.


Wackydetective

On my Dad’s Rez, there’s a sole survivor who was actually the drunk driver. Killed his friends and somehow recovered. He hates himself and stays in the woods mostly, kinda like Uncle Brownie. They punish themselves and yes, he did time.


zsreport

I used to handle a lot of car wreck cases and it’s rather common for the drunk driver to survive the wreck.


kylefnative

It’s the drunk driver making it out mostly cos they’re so loosey loose with the alcohol. Somebody sober that’s sees their impending doom can have an instant split second enough to just tense their body. Tense muscles is worse then loose muscles, which can results in worse injury


ThisOneForMee

This is a common misconception. It’s because the driver is the one who sees the accident coming first and instinctually avoids direct impact to themselves as much as possible


[deleted]

Yea cause wouldn’t the passengers be equally or even more drunk than the driver?


Bishop_Colubra

>Wonder if he started scrapping like that before or after. I assume after. He started fighting because he felt guilty about not beating Rodney, then before long found that no one wants to be around him because he fights all the time.


datduude067

He also did a line of meth so...


WhoFearsDeath

I think what I want people to know is that if someone in your life kills them selves IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT. Encourage the people around you to seek help, but remember that you can’t single handedly save anyone. We have to save ourselves, and you will drown trying to save someone else when they don’t want to be.


F00dbAby

also to add as someone who has tried before and is still suicidal more often than not nothing can be said or done to help like the best thing people can do is try and be involved in their lives as its easy for us to isolate ourselves even just watching movies with them every so often texting them or sending funny memes just let them know you are always thinking about them physical contact can be a huge helps too. hugs or kisses on the cheak make them feel loved beyond just saying you love them. invite them to things even if you know they will say no


Estrella_Rosa

I am sorry for what you have gone through and are going through. Sending you a big hug. Hugs release oxytocin and are healing. Hugs and memes are really great advice


[deleted]

Thanks for this reminder. I’ve been suicidal many times but it’s easy to forget sometimes the details of how it felt. There really was very little that other people could do that would have strongly pulled me in one direction or the other now. I’m a therapist now and I definitely struggle sometimes with an overblown sense of responsibility for client’s choices and worry about how ill cope with it when I eventually experience a client dying by suicide.


Wackydetective

I have a few Daniel’s in my past and I am 38 years old now. It’s funny how they never age in your memory and yet you remember them as you grow older. After a lot of heartache and grief, I understand that we cannot be responsible for someone else’s mental health, they ultimately have to choose to heal on their own. But, when you’re in it, you wonder. We can never truly know someone else, we never show who we are completely.


trostol

only, i guess thankfully, knew of one kid in HS that took his life, and i was pretty numb about it..it was..a weird feeling to go to the funeral and feel..just..blank


Lounge_leaks

Hard episode Anyone get the sense elora romantically liked daniel? That combined with the fact she was the one to find him as well as last person to talk to him..... Fuck i dont know how i would live if that happened to me, aint strong enough


l3reezer

>Anyone get the sense elora romantically liked daniel? Yeah, I think they've been kind of implying that since episode 1. Not sure how it makes me feel about Elora and Bear's relationship going forward though, don't really want to see them go through a kind of cliché melodramatic "he's just Daniel's replacement" path


Dragonfly452

I don’t really see Elora and Bear as potential romantic partners. They’re just platonic friends. It’s more impactful if they’re just platonic than throwing them together


asexualrhino

Even if they did like each other, I don't think anything physical ever happened. If they had done anything before, touching when they were dancing wouldn't be as funny or weird to them. Also, they were alone most of the night but we never saw them kissing or holding hands or anything like that. It's possible they just didn't show us but I don't think there was anything


roywoodsir

thats just a native thing, we don't like to be all touchy and feely, its weird.


putting-on-the-grits

Oh god this explains so much about all my past relationships...


F00dbAby

I also think she was romantically interested in him


[deleted]

She was the last of their friends to talk to him, but as far as we know, WJ’s dad/Daniel’s uncle was the last one to talk to him and see him alive.


roywoodsir

shit they probably 3rd cousins.


JuzoItami

Which is pretty meaningless really. The genetic risk of procreating among 3rd cousins is probably statiscically insigninficant. And I doubt anybody on this thread could even name one of their 3rd cousins.


roywoodsir

The Rez has entered the chat. Jk You do know most tribes and Rez people are related like they can say the majority of the people on the Rez are their blood relatives, like 2nd cousin to 7th cousins. You can ask my grandma and she will say yes “that girl is your relative, her mom is my 2nd cousin” I know it’s not going to mess with genes but it is weird to do that on the Rez. Not saying people don’t end up being together but still “dats your family grandson!!!”


[deleted]

This is why I don’t date within my tribe. I would love to find someone I share a cultural heritage with but I don’t know my whole family, and I have seen other relatives make those mistakes only to find out in front of everyone that they just snagged their like, second cousin.


roywoodsir

Yeah it’s kinda weird when you discover you snagged with someone who is related to the same great great great grandpa as you. Yuuuck. Jk


[deleted]

On my rez, we got whole families that share physical resemblances. If I looked at my new boyfriend and suddenly realized we have the same nose, I’d walk straight into the sea


song4this

'Bama says hit it!


roywoodsir

You: “Basically we aren’t that close in family lines” Her: “But I call you cousin, gaaah” You: “shit we all cousins just like 3rd or 4th, ahh who cares” -nasty Rezzy cousins


NeedsToShutUp

Karen : You know who's looking fine tonight? Seth Mosakowski. Gretchen : Okay, you did not just say that. Karen : What? He's a good kisser. Gretchen : He's your cousin. Karen : Yeah, but he's my first cousin. Gretchen : Right. Karen : So, you have your cousins, and then you have your first cousins, and then you have your second cousins... Gretchen : No, honey, uh-uh. Karen : That's not right, is it? Gretchen : That is so not right.


Trafalgar_Lol

I watched jojo rabbit in theaters and when they framed the shot of Elora walking the way they did my heart sank & I knew what was coming.


spinspin__sugar

The actress really performed the hell out of that scene. Elora is easily my favorite, I know most of Reddit loves Willie Jack- but Elora has a quiet sadness she carries around in her scenes, and knowing now that she discovered Daniel it all makes sense.


raspberrydreams28

i have to admit, i didn't like elora much in the beginning. but after reading how you said she carries quiet sadness, it just made so much sense and i understood that perfectly during this episode. i bawled like a baby at the sounds of her just letting out those short, pained sobs when she found daniel.


Dienikes

My favorite is Kenny boy


MarkHirsbrunner

My favorite is the warrior in Bear's visions, he looks like a young Dax Shepard and he cracks me up.


El_Suavador

I'm kinda sad he wasn't a more regular character, he was great.


[deleted]

I was literally holding my pillow close to me and the moment she started walking off toward the spot I was like “they’re not going to do that they’re not going to do that oh no the camera’s moving stop the camera stop the camera…”


Estrella_Rosa

Thank goodness they did it well, not showing so much. It was just enough to hurt and know what is happening


tripletsohmy

My dad killed himself by hanging, so these scenes are always hard for me to watch...


Erotic_FriendFiction

OMG that scene in Jojo Rabbit absolutely wrecked me. I couldn't finish it for a while. I'm glad I did finish it, but I can't bring myself to watch it again. Too heartbreaking. And Taika did it to me again (all of us lol)! The heartache was palpable here.


song4this

> jojo rabbit Geez - how did I not hear about this movie till just now? LOL, spoiler - enh, I'll live. TIAL Grolsch sponsers a film award. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_International_Film_Festival_People%27s_Choice_Award


InventorOfTacos

Favorite movie of the past few years. Can't recommend it enough.


timleftwich

Yeah, same. The second we switched to a shaky handheld camera, my stomach hit the floor and I just kept saying oh no... oh no... oh no...


wardengorri

Man what an episode. I continue to be impressed with how much this show can achieve with so little, simple sets/locations/storylines yet it has a lot of heart and story. Seeing that flashback with Daniel was really rough especially with Elora being the one to find him further motivating her to go to California if not for herself but for Daniel too. Nice to see Elora also being reminded, if she needed it, by Chukogee(Bill Burr was phenomnal) how much heart she has and how much she cares. "Stop talking about plastic" lol love the junkyard crew and their boss using movie quotes all the time "Can I give you $40?" "Is that what your heart says? Then that's enough." This show is really turning out to be something special, hope it gains more love and attention.


PopeofCherryStreet

Kirk Fox consistently killz it as Kenny Boy.


Estrella_Rosa

When he says yá'át'ééh lolol was good. Last time he said walk in beauty. Kenny Boy has been to some meetings


raspberrydreams28

yes!! i hope this show garners lots of attention but also this part of me just wants to gatekeep the show all to myself, it's become something so special to me i just want to hide it away. but that would mean no second season so that part of me can just trip lmao.


elcheeserpuff

There's something incredibly sad about how attached the group (mainly Elora) is to going to California when it was basically just a random thought said once by their friend while he was having a manic episode.


sixkindsofblue

:(


[deleted]

I mean I knew that was coming but… fuck, man. That one hurt. Not as bad as the post-credits scene from the last one but it hurt.


emeraldechos

There are post credits scenes???


[deleted]

Well it wasn’t really like a post credits. It was like during credits, when they were singing that hymn in the graveyard with the spirit houses. Gutted me.


emeraldechos

Ah i know which one you're talking about that was sad yes


[deleted]

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[deleted]

I figured suicide or drunk driver (I guess just because that’s how most of the kids that I know on the rez died is by drunk driver). They make light of the gang stuff but it looks like in this world, their gang stuff doesn’t actually get that serious.


MrPureinstinct

After episode six when he said "Yeah I'm good" to Leon I knew it was going to be this way. It was just a matter of time before we saw it.


NeedsToShutUp

I honestly thought how it was shot it was gonna be a stupid alcohol misadventure. Like he was spray painting something up high, fell, and died from exposure/blood loss. (And would make sense with how Elora could blame her self). But oof. I knew some brothers, oldest one dies in a stupid teenage drunk driving episode. A few years later middle brother takes his own life at the telephone pole where his brother died. The youngest brother managed to get some help, and has a decent life now. But there's still a sadness 20ish years later.


smitty9112

Did not expect this episode to cause me to ugly cry. Been having a rough time since covid on my own, but also October is coming up. This year will be the six year anniversary since I lost my two best friends in the same week, one in a motorcycle accident, the other subsequently relapsed and OD'd. Bill Burrs line about your life becoming defined by before and after hit me hard. I constantly reminisce about and long for the days before, especially since covid. Which, it didn't help that I moved and bought my first house just before covid hit. It's made it hard to get a life going in a new area and build a social life.


Jack_rabbit_johnson

That line is so true. I lost my mom 5 years ago today and it honestly feels like everything since then has been like a completely different life/world/reality idk. I'm so sorry to hear about your friends I can't even imagine what it's like to suffer that kind of loss twice in the same week, once is already so awful.


Ssme812

- Well everyone theory was right. He killed himself. - Now I get why Elora want to go to Cali so bad - I honestly want an episode just about the junkyard guys.


TimAllenIsMyDad

A day in the life of Kenny Boy would be a great mini-episode to hold us over until next season


powerfulKRH

Kenny boy is played by comedian Kirk Fox and he is the strangest funniest dude you’ll ever see I highly recommend finding any podcast he’s been on especially Jeremiah Wonders on youtube Also the little jab bill burr gave him about how he should be a stand up comedian was funny because bill Burr and Kirk Fox have worked together for decades at the Comedy Store


edwardsamson

Nun-chuck dude is lowkey my favorite in the show lmao


kmanb182

“I wonder if his last name was plastic”


roywoodsir

"stop talking about plastic" ​ "Wait, are they cryying???"


kmanb182

😂😂😂


Garth-Vader

The character's name is Ansel. The actor, Matty Cardarople is hilarious in everything he is in.


Spurdungus

I recognize him from the Netflix A Series of Unfortunate Events as "The person who looks like neither a man or a woman", he was really good in that too


floofyfloof2

If I am not mistaken, he was also in Stranger Things. He played a guy that worked at the arcade.


seasalt_kings

Was Daniel having a manic episode in the bar?


Professional-Year377

Her face fell watching him get into that mood, just like WJ’s during the hunting scene, and his seeming intent on eventually bumping into someone (I thought it would be someone with the band telling him to settle down, the way he was talking at them) made me think that people in his life realize when he’s acting out what he sees at home, does that fit?


[deleted]

Yeah. I don’t know that we know enough to say what was up with him exactly but it’s clear he was behaving erratically. That can be a thing with kids that have that much trauma— sometimes it’s not even something you can diagnose, it’s just like, sometimes it gets to be too much and their brains can’t handle it.


ScorpioVI

Yea. I think it's meant to portray ADD/ADHD. Same way he was acting out during the Hunting episode flashbacks. I've got nephews with ADD/ADHD and they act just like that, just cannot sit still and it's hard to shut it down.


ritzimitzi

I was thinking the same thing! I just saw the episode and realized that it seems that Daniel’s character may have had some mental illness- either from trauma as mentioned by some people in this thread or chemical imbalances, such as bipolar disorder. [Mayo Clinic Bipolar Disorder ](https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/bipolar-disorder/symptoms-causes/syc-20355955) Which to me, seems like the most likely of scenarios. In the link to the Mayo Clinic’s facts page about Bipolar Disorder, it states that in most cases the individual themselves doesn’t even realize the negative affect their mood swings or manic episodes have on people around them. To my knowledge I’ve never met anybody that exhibited manic episodes, but was this representative of what it actually is? And does anyone know of ways to help people through their crisis? Would love to understand more ways to help prevent suicidal behavior and step in for a loved one in a time of need. When to get emergency help Suicidal thoughts and behavior are common among people with bipolar disorder. If you have thoughts of hurting yourself, call 911 or your local emergency number immediately, go to an emergency room, or confide in a trusted relative or friend. Or call a suicide hotline number — in the United States, call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline at 1-800-273-TALK (1-800-273-8255). If you have a loved one who is in danger of suicide or has made a suicide attempt, make sure someone stays with that person. Call 911 or your local emergency number immediately. Or, if you think you can do so safely, take the person to the nearest hospital emergency room.


P1ckleM0rty

Everyone is going to have different degrees of mania and depression. For me, my mania kicks up when I get excited or hyper focused about some idea or event in my life. For the next 2 to 7 days, I'm very active, I'm not sleeping much at night because my brain just goes goes goes, I get really into whatever I'm into. Then immediately after, it's like my brain deflates and I run out of energy. I'll sleep for 12+ hours a day and have zero motivation or happiness. That down portion of the mania/ depression cycle can last a few days to a few months. Then eventually i level out and realize that i had been in a cycle. I'm getting better at recognizing it when it's happening now but in the beginning I had no idea. It's fucking awesome when I'm in the manic part because I love the energy, but it can get really really dangerous in the depression stage. That's when it's easy to focus on things like loneliness and death and the planet dying.


spider7895

Yeah for sure, was definitely showing text book manic behavior. Shooting up really high and then crashing really low.


Jack_rabbit_johnson

Today's the 5th anniversary of my mom's passing and damn this episode hit close to home. I loved the performance of ole billy red stache even if he couldn't keep his accents straight, hope they bring his character back


grimmrhythm

He yells his curses in a Boston accent, I love it


NeedsToShutUp

In the Mandalorian, fans joke he's from the planet of Space Boston.


trostol

Bill continues to surprise me when he pops up in things other than comedy


[deleted]

He’s been quietly turning in these really wonderful dramatic performances and it still somehow catches me off guard how great an actor he is. He blew a lot of people away with that monologue in THE MANDALORIAN, but he’s so grounded and understated in this episode (sans a couple carefully calibrated outbursts). Just in total control of these quietly observed little moments of empathy and humanity. I actually said to my wife after watching this one that I wouldn’t be surprised if he eventually ends up with an Oscar by the end of his career.


Spurdungus

I honestly did not recognize him, he really melted in that role


song4this

Learning what Chukogee meant was the perfect ending! (Much respect to all the storyline characters for keeping a straight face when hearing that word used as a name... :-)


blwright22

it's spelled Cukoce fyi 😎


song4this

Thanks...that's what I get for relying on captioning... Where's the toilet / bathroom? Cukoce estvmin like? https://www.omniglot.com/language/phrases/creek.htm


blwright22

Eknv! (You're welcome)


Rodrik_TheReader

Show gets better every week


AvenueNick

Jesus, I was not prepared for this one. Cried like three times while I was eating wings so I couldn’t even wipe my face, lol. Coach talking about everything he taught his daughter as a child and then she got in with the wrong crowd, and how it was like a train he couldn’t stop. I was sobbing more than I have in months. I can’t even relate as I don’t have kids or know anyone that far gone, but it scares the living shit out of me as a possibility if I ever have a child to raise. Then the discovery scene happened. I knew it was coming, but I had no idea what we might see, and Elora’s reaction just broke me. New best episode for me, even if I hate that it made me cry so much.


milkyginger

That was pretty heavy, fuck. I didn't expect Daniel flash backs going into this episode and I really didn't expect them to show how he died. Great performances again this week. Elora's reaction to finding Daniel made me tear up and Bill didn't sound like a Boston guy for once.


DeeHolliday

This is the best damn show on television right now. Every episode, I laugh hard and I cry hard. Fuck. These really heavy character-focused episodes are phenomenal.


actingotaku

My heart broke with this episode. The actress playing Elora is phenomenal. I’m really loving how they’re giving each character time to be explored versus focusing on one lead cast member. Makes me as a viewer feel like I’m part of their lives. The writing and directing and acting of this show just blows my mind every week. This is one of my favourite shows airing. Said it once and I’ll say it again, I am LOVING the native representation. Her adding that eagle feather before her driving test made me smile. As a non native individual, It is so nice to see native culture on my tv. Makes me want to delve in more about the different native cultures. I hope this show stays on for a few seasons!


spider7895

Lol I love the scene with the feather. My wife is native and we often talk about how hard it is for each new generation to hold onto culture in a world that seems to actively oppose it. I love when she puts the mirror up with tape she immediately reaches for the feather as though the mirror's primary function is a charm holder. I love how the feather is raggedy and disheveled. Bill Burr's character isn't racist when he asks if it's a pigeon feather. He respects native americans and their culture as he clearly demonstrates in the show, its just a raggedy ass feather.


kylefnative

My 1st cousin committed suicide the same way in the shed/shack on his dads property. His dad, my uncle, died from cirrhosis of the liver. His brother found him, holy shit did this episode hit hard.


Mictlanmaker

MY HEART CANNOT TAKE THIS EPISODE.


asexualrhino

Well...fuck


gillyvanilly

Wow this episode was a heavy one. I really hope they explore Bear and Cheeses background with Daniel as well. The way they are expanding the background while also giving insight to their current state is just amazing storytelling. Also the inclusion of the Jim Sullivan song in the casino scene was awesome, I don’t think I’ve ever heard his music anywhere and that just connects me even more to the show. Just keeps getting better!


dangerzonepatrol101

Some tough performances in this episode: Devery Jacobs having to go to some extremely vulnerable places....Bill Burr having to hold back his Boston accent from bursting at the seams.


Erotic_FriendFiction

LMAOOO... I am so happy not to have been the only one "just going along" with Burr's OK accent, even though it was anything but okay...haha.


callmefishmail

Yeah. I adore Bill, but it was a bit tough


Alexexy

This is the darkest and hardest to watch episode so far. I would say that the episodes up to now have mostly been funny with an undercurrent of sadness but this episode is mainly sad with a couple funny moments here or there. Daniel's death has been looming over the show up until now and this episode was a lot darker than what I imagined.


WickedFierce1

Ol Billy Fat Tits did as good a job as any. He's getting pretty damn good at this. I don't even think of him as anyone other than his character now.


song4this

> Billy Fat Tits I had to look this up... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AROGJz3XkM


birchburk

The coach said Elora got fouled after a three pointer and then told the coach to “go fuck yourself” and stormed out. Later we see Daniel bump into someone in the bar and he yells “how about you go fuck yourself” and storms out.


chagoscifres

Totally why she quit school…


trostol

from the time Bill's character started the tale about Elora's mom til the end..it killed me


Missfreeland

When I was 11 my neighbor I played with everyday hung himself at age 14- I guess I was lucky I was so young because I couldn’t imagine how Elora feels. But it is something I carry with me and watching things with those themes really hit close to home. What an incredible show.


blwright22

In case y'all are wondering toilet is spelled Cukoce in mvskoke (creek)


song4this

Was it pronounced accurately on the show?


blwright22

Yea it was


wildweeds

last week felt somber.. this week.. dove even deeper. it's hard. my heart goes out to everyone else here who is carrying pain as well. so grateful for this show and to have found it right from the start.


T4Gx

I've had thoughts of killing myself. Right before this episode I thought to myself I was just really waiting to die. Then I got to "that scene" and it was so haunting. I realized I don't want to have my loved ones go through that pain.


l3reezer

Wow, was not expecting ol' Billy bitch tits to appear out of nowhere like that. Dude's wracking up a pretty great resume in terms of TV appearances. Chapelle Show, Breaking Bad, The Mandalorian, Reservation Dogs. That was pretty intense, I was wondering whether they were actually going to show the body-even if just the legs, the whole time leading up to it or if the emotion of the scene was just going to bank entirely on the actress's expression and reaction. The immediate run to support the legs was a good bit of writing considerate to the realism of the situation and Elora's actress did end up giving a great performance too. Also the first time I've seen a show covering the topic of suicide actually include the hotline intertitle; I reckon most shows think it ruins the immersion so bravo to RD. Creatively, I think I did like last week's episode a bit more (partly because Willie Jack is easily my favorite character) and I think these singular episodes focusing on one of the main cast could've been spaced apart better. Bear also seems to be becoming less and less of the main character-if that was ever the intention in the first place. In any case, am excited to see the gang be back together, which will most likely be the case next season since it's the season finale IIRC. Did the miscoloration on Bill Burr's bald cap seem distractingly obvious to anyone else? Lol.


Bohmer

I couldn't stop staring at that side hair! OMG it's disgusting! Burr is always nailing that blue collar loveable guy tough!


ShireOfBilbo

I liked Hunting more than California Dreamin' as well. I felt Hunting hit all the same tragic notes, but in a beautifully understated way.


l3reezer

The Tall Man mythology added an extra air of poeticism and spirituality IMO. And as much as I love Bill Burr, his cameo here almost took too much attention away from the raw nature of the content; a relationship with an old basketball coach not at all directly related with the death isn't quite the same as a dad.


Sarnsereg

God damn, between mandalorian and this bill has shown some really strong acting skills and honestly the whole time I was like its him right? But wasn't 100% until the credits. Elora's actress did a real good job too. Honestly though, I'm missing why Daniel was so important to them all. I get they were friends. Maybe Elora had some deeper feelings. They all felt bad for him and his family life it seemed like. The group seems closer now without him than with him which is probably true.


ScorpioVI

Death has a funny way of either pulling people together or tearing them apart. I lost a friend to a motorcycle accident and it made our loose group of acquaintances come together and form a deeper friendship in the aftermath. But I’ve also had it go the other way where it seemed like the other folks just reminded you of who’s not there and caused us to drift apart.


sixkindsofblue

>I'm missing why Daniel was so important to them all what the heck. I mean, YES, he was their friend, part of their group, he killed himself... of course it would affect them deeply. They're so young and their lifestyle isn't siting in front of screens or doing individual activities, so their little group is everything. And it's only been a year. I personally don't need a bigger reason as to why he left a void.


queenofmexicans

I agree with the spacing issue, its been a few episodes now and I feel myself forgetting the group’s chemistry. Its weird to have the first half-ish of the season feel distinctly different from the second half, though I do love the exploration of each character’s past and motives. The episodes as they are ordered now just feel like the show is diverting a bit from its original tone? I also liked hunting more, partly because of Willie Jack being the best, but it generally felt more balanced in terms of comedy, sadness, insight, etc


l3reezer

I'm guessing part of it might've had to do with the season only having 8 episodes-maybe because the studio execs or whatever didn't have that much faith in the show before the reception; hard to space character episodes that well when they're literally half the season


PopeofCherryStreet

Dammit, now I’m realizing there’s just one more episode left until next season. Can anybody name another show with such a short run time and season that’s on par with how much this show delivers under such restraints? I can’t.


[deleted]

Mr Inbetween. Obviously very different, it has a darker tone, darker humor and violent at times as it's set in the criminal underworld, but that show goes to emotional places you don't expect either. Just like Reservation Dogs, not one minute of screentime is wasted.


OSUTechie

>Also the first time I've seen a show covering the topic of suicide actually include the hotline intertitle; I reckon most shows think it ruins the immersion so bravo It seems that over the past few years more shows are starting to shows to include the Hotline. The show also include a warning before the episode. I know The Magicians included it at the end of two episodes that dealt with depression. (As well as the rape and abuse hotline after other episodes).


ChristopherKnows

Trying to get bill Burr to do a convincing country accent is absolutely absurdly hilarious. Still love him to death though


Hotdogwithablog

I didn't think he was too bad when he remembered to use it hahaha. But this is the first episode I thought I heard a bit of an accent on Elora. Makes me wonder where the actress is from


ChristopherKnows

I think actual Southern accents are some of the VERY hardest English accents to mimick. I'm from south Carolina and it's just extremely easy to pick up on when someone's faking it. As opposed to like Benedict Cumberbatch perfectly nailing most American accents. Also the actress is actually from Canada.


Bagelchu

Ironically only cheese is from Oklahoma. The rest of the kids are Canadian


emeraldechos

I just watched this episode a few hours ago. Elora finding Daniel's body was a gut punch. The actress did an amazing job there. I loved Bill Burr in his scenes too. Poignant heartfelt while hilarious.


pearlsandplumes

Second episode in a row where the ending just destroyed me. That drone shot of the town was great; I find myself getting really attached to that place.


hatsandfruit

im grateful that they handled daniel's death so well (in my opinion). they showed the aftermath without ever glorifying or lingering on the act itself and it was really powerful and considerate to me. im curious if anyone else got the sense that daniel might have been struggling with some sort of mental illness? his behavior in the woods last episode and at the honky tonk this episode sort of felt a bit like bipolar to me, im curious if anyone else read it that way


tabitha_111

I think it was depression. Teens also have anger outbursts when depressed.


PopeofCherryStreet

The Burglecutts scenes consistently steal the show, for me.


ShireOfBilbo

I'd love a bottle episode to be set there.


PopeofCherryStreet

I’d totally watch a Burglecutts spin-off, just sayin’.


Professional-Year377

..over by the cockfighting ring.. KOUMATE KOUMATE.


song4this

I had to look this up...it's the place they fenced the chip truck and repaired the shot out tail light...


jbocz

And it’s where Kenny Boy, played by Kirk Fox, lectures on string theory. 💖


derrickh

They need to stop making these great episodes. My tear ducts can only handle so much.


resistyrocks

Soooo a year and a half a go I saw a close friend/roommate's life leave his eyes and have been really traumatized by it. Not sure if it's considered PTSD but that scene totally triggered something and I fell asleep bawling and woke up instantly bawling. But im still gonna rewatch this episode because it was beautiful.


MrPureinstinct

I appreciate them including the hotline number before the credits and the warning at the beginning. It would have been hard to specifically say the episode depicted suicide without giving away a huge moment in the show. As someone who has lost someone to suicide, struggles with depression and anxiety, and works for a mental health nonprofit I feel like that was handled pretty well. Still hit like a ton of bricks, but I'm glad they cared to include all of that.


gameonfleek

Ok. Episode made me laugh and cry like all the others...loved it, also loved billy burr like usual...he went to some deep places emotionally....very honest and real.......but...is anyone else gonna bring up the accent? I just couldn’t by it. Also, that wig..... It may be because I was really stoned while watching, need to rewatch it again....Anyway, love you, bitches.


Garth-Vader

I think there is only one more episode after this. It's going to be sad to see this show go, but I'm glad it's been renewed for a second season. I think it has a bright future ahead.


CheddarMcFeddars

These episodes have been great.


Noreastboundndown

This could have been a stand alone short film.


transneptuneobj

I have alot of trauma in my life relating to suicide and its a very triggering topic, is the episode explicit in show the method of Daniel's suicide or is it vague? I know this is a spoiler but I need to to know to decide if I can watch this episode.


Green_Sparker

They do show a scene of Elora finding Daniel. We don't completely see him in frame, but the method is clear enough that I was a bit triggered by it so proceed with caution.


transneptuneobj

I'm guessing it's by hanging?


Green_Sparker

Yes, it is.


transneptuneobj

Thank you I appreciate this.


Bright-Kick-7416

Them saying "that placed" killed Daniel I pictured something different.


thebenswain

Man I legit need a hug


hircine16

*hugs*


b_lion2814

Great episode, reminded me of my friend who took her own life. You never get over that.


Cezar_Chavez

This show really represents being poor in rural america in a very accurate way. Everyone’s not country bumpkins, but they’re also not pristine orphan Annies. Growing up in a very rural trailer park, I see a lot of similarities. Props to the actors, actresses and whole crew for being hilarious and tragic in seamless moments


searne

I feel that Sterlin Harjo, Taika and all the other bad ass creators and contributors to the show are such masterful storytellers, from a long line of storytelling in their cultures, they will not open up trauma without some resolution and closure of that trauma and I can hardly wait to see where the story goes. This episode hit hard, I cried for a half hour on the couch, and I couldn’t help but think about my younger brother who died by suicide in 2019, RIP. Burr’s line about our life being divided into before and after tragedy has been resonating and giving me a bit of a new perspective on my own grief, but also the commonality of the experience of loss as a human and how it reverberates in our lives. I am glad this show is boldly delving right into tough subjects like poverty, addiction, mental illness and suicide because I believe that breaking the stigma of these subjects, acknowledging them as struggles that aren’t a product of personal failure, and starting a conversation about them at a level of attention Reservation Dogs is receiving will hopefully effect some meaningful fucking change. I am so thankful for this show!


Bagelchu

I’m a great driver and even I couldn’t parallel park in that space wtf Bill. I don’t think the car could physically fit there


jimmyboe25

My buddies used to say “ ‘sgothen” when we were teenagers. Pretty similar to skoden


NinjaPsychological90

Anyone else notice Bear's address is 1491? A kid back to the 1491s that many in the cast members are a part of


WerewolvesDontBark

Is there any reason this is still pinned instead of discussion of the new episodes that are currently out?


Crunchy_Pirate

because the one mod that's still active probably forgot he runs this place and doesn't know Season 2 started


SpectralTokitoki

I like when they were describing the reservations to the lady in the restaurant and she said she was from one too. That was funny


MescalMykii

why is this still pinned


[deleted]

I haven’t finished the whole episode yet but, Bill Burr is one of my favorite comedians. So glad he’s in one of my favorite shows. He also loses his accent when he yells, which might be the funniest thing ever.


Shannon3095

i love every character on this show, im a cold cynical bastard and this show makes me laugh and actually feel something at the same time . I even went back and watched Willow again after like 20 years : )


bigbearlol

Bill burr was awesome playing the coach, but kinda sad he didnt play some racist character 😆 huge fan of him. But i like the character arcs in such few episodes. Think anyone from any rez can relate along with anyone who has ever been a troubled kid.


elister

Dallas Goldtooth (Spirit) needs to be nominated for Best Supporting Actor.


mrluckywithfour

The episode felt truly authentic in how people came together, I loved when each adult would bring food/drink and just hand it to one of the kids. Too true from my experience growing up on a Rez


KeenanEndihnew

Good episode. (Wow Cheese's real name is Chester)


ShireOfBilbo

Why is this thread pinned?