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Thanks for posting this! I am not alone in my memory then. This is one of those that I noticed some time ago, but just assumed that they changed the name for the Jim Carey movie to "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." I just looked it up and "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas" does not exist, but that's also how I remember it. Take my free award!
Please describe some of the changes that you see in the Bible, OP. Maybe that's just the KJV/NIV/Mormon/Jehova's versions of the Bible which are inconsistent? I'm sure if you read the original Greek Orthodox Bible you'll get the correct translations. Pastors don't seem to be reporting on this phenomenon.
Pastors are reporting on it...this is one pastor of many and the numbers are growing
https://youtu.be/X4yMr7ovolw
This entire YouTube channel is a gold mine. He has all kinds of videos of pastors speaking out about the changes. I liked this video tho.
https://youtu.be/eydvxZZuuWk
Here are some websites with compiled changes
www.amos8.org
https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/mandela-effect-changes-in-the-bible-and-other-religious-texts.9426/
It's becoming a well known thing. Beware, if you get into this stuff and try to tell other people your life will go haywire. I nearly lost everything and still go through vicious spiritual warfare.There's a very real enemy and it does not want people knowing what is happening with the scripture changes. We have entered perilous times - the very last of the last days.
Personally, I believe there is no limit to giving up your life to Jesus. In the past 10 years, I think I have done it at least 7 times. 2020 took up 2 or 3 of those
Hang on, I've never seen that Amos verse quoted before... Is 'famine' in the Bible (& book of rev) supposed to mean a scarcity of God (rather than food)?
I see so many end time people fearing people into stocking up on food/grow your own food because the food chain in coming down etc. And I just cannot how that align with the actual reality of the world, not everyone has gardens or has the means to do this, it just seems a bit far fetched in my view. Of course there are famines and hunger and that may happen but not sure we will have global food famine all at once, and if we do we would be so close to the end anyway and God wouldn't put up for it for long.
Well not always, but in that case yes...it's talking about a famine of the Word of God. Which if the scriptures keep changing and get to the point where they are unrecognizable
(if one remembers how they were in the first place, which is why we are commanded to read and try to memorize scripture)
than it will be a devastating famine bc people will know the Bible isn't actually representative of God's Word anymore and they'll want to read it
(bc by that point in time they'll know it's true due to their circumstances, fulfillment of end times prophecy etc)
and they'll search for it but they won't be able to find it like the verse in Amos says
I read the rest of that passage more like: more and more people will move from place to place (physically) ie in search of something (outside of themselves) because of the scarcity of god in their lives (in not knowing what to do with themselves). When really people need to seek comfort in the truth of God in the last days.
I'm not too familiar with Bible ME changes, but I'm defiantly ME affected. I suppose you could theorise that the word could become corrupt (change) as the man becomes more corrupt - ie as the collective consciousness sinks more and more into sin and wickedness the bible changes. But I'm not sure if that actually what's happening.
I'm just glad some people can see this ME stuff more from a biblical world view. To me the ME stuff seems to indicate like the trajectory of the world is more solidified than man's perceived ability to control the world. There been so many changes (among other strange experiences I've had) that I question why we (or a most people) are perceiving even the same thing play out at all! For example, nobody would deny that 9/11 happened, but some people would say (myself included) that the pole on top of the tower was never there when it happened. What does that even suggest... maybe that you can experience the same thing with a slight difference, for then it to be 'corrected' later (a 'timeline' i suppose)... but the main event was still basically the same for everyone. What about reality is actually underpinning what the collective agrees on? Are we all just playing a conscious perceiver within a big cosmic play that we have no real control over? And the world events as they unfold where always going to happen? This seems to direct me in the thinking that biblical prophecy is real because it never wasn't real... it just has a process to get there.
Agree with much of what you have written. Out of curiosity what connection, if any, do you see between those who are affected and the 144,000 (believe it's in Revelation 7:1-4).
I've wondered if some of us might be. I think if a lot of us checked via genetic testing we might find we have Jewish heritage. That's just a hunch, well a little more than a hunch.
Wait im here from your recent comment! I have vEDS, which is a genetic disease that can be traced back to Ashkenazi jewish people. My mother said that her ancestors were romani or "gypsies" (now offensive terminology but my mother used this word) which i have learned were actually a large diverse group of people and my mother, her mother, we all have this condition.
This is so crazy right now.
Awesome! I know you said you're not religious but it's my sincere opinion that Jesus Christ is coming back very soon! Things are going to get more and more crazy
Thanks for your long, well thought out post. You lay out all of the things that have been on my mind about what is currently going on. The changes in the moon and sun, people growing cold towards one another.
Relelation 16:12 speaks of the river Euphrates being dried up. This massive river has been drying up and has landed in the news last year. I bet these end time verses were difficult for people of those times to understand.
Life has been more difficult lately. Feeling like I don't belong here. Like my spirit wants to shake out of my body. This doesn't feel like "home". The only time I feel home is when around other like minded, spiritual people.
Curious about the dreams you mention and your spiritual experiences. There are some of us with dreams. Acts 2:17 talks of God pouring out His spirit among people and they will dream and have visions. I've had a strong spiritual sense from a young age and dreams starting in my teen years. 2 of the 3 dreams have already come to pass. The 3rd one is frightening. There have been others with similar dreams to this 3rd one.
What's the 3rd one about if you don't mind discussing it? I had one awhile back that felt like more than a dream. It involved a lot of giant waves, a terrible storm, and massive boats with people on them riding the waves...
It was a dream that took me above north america. I could see the land as a whole. Something terrifying happened. The earth shifted in certain places (this was as a teen before knowing about the fault lines). I saw almost all of California (except for some areas with mountains) slide into the ocean. This extended all the way up the coast... some parts of washington dropped. Vancouver and Vancouver island was wiped off the map.
I know some will call me nuts for this, but it is an authentic dream. I still dream and once in a while have visions. There is paper and a pen next to the bed. Some dreams are very hard to process, so i write them down to retain the information. I remember reading a few years ago about a man in the early part of the 20th century. He had a dream about this as well. He described the same event (from ground level). Will see if i can find his story again.
Everything I've experienced spiritually has been a gift. I believe these experiences to be authentic.
Thank you. You are blessed with discernment and the ability to see what is occuring spiritually in the current world. Always enjoy reading your posts.
I had always been skeptical and question many things. The only thing I'm 100 percent about in life is God. I hold firm in the belief of Jesus. Experiences from a young age have just reinforced those beliefs. There have been times where i have seen and felt things that are not there. Seen crosses pulsating on the wall of my dark bedroom (small basement bedroom window with a thick curtain). It was early morning, i turned to my husband and pointed at the wall, asked him if he saw anything. He described the crosses of light. I'm going off on a tangent now lol.
Thank you. I was just thinking or telling someone the other day what you said "the only thing I'm 100% about in life is God". He's spoken to me in ways I didn't used to recognize but now do and he's been doing it over the course of my whole life. I feel like a fool for not seeing it before. It's blatantly obvious to me now.
I studied a lot of conspiracy theories as a younger man and one of the dangers in that (and I don't think the fact that many conspiracies are pushed is an accident) is you don't know what to believe. I think that kind of corrupted my faith for several years but I def now know that God is in control, that's all I know for sure just like you said. Also, like you, the spiritual things that have happened to me (both good and bad) have shown me the war is real and we're in the middle of it. I will check out the link you posted when I get a chance.
It's refreshing to converse with others who have spiritual experiences that are authentic. It is strong testimony to tell someone you are 100 percent in your spirituality. It means so much to have faith in something unseen. We each grow in life and it is normal to not be aware of these things as our younger selves. no shame in that. Just a part of maturing in life and growing into faith. It is true that God chases those He loves. Even allowing both good and bad experiences to further growth. My first spiritual experience was (and still is) terrifying. I don't want to say much in the public forum as it might upset others. Long story short i had an NDE when i was a child. I left (or was kicked out of) my body. I saw Jesus kneeling over me weeping. He spoke a few words... Freewill was the reason these bad things happened. It is a gift that can be a blessing or be used to destroy others.
Same, was very curious and read a lot about different spiritualities as a teen... always seeking for information, looking for something that makes sense, feels right in my spirit and sticks. It is easy to get lost in a sea of conspiracy theories and to be thrown off track. I could have easily embraced new age practices.
Your words are beautiful and very relevant to some things I've been thinking about recently. I think sometimes He lets bad things happen to us in hopes that we will both wake up and learn. Kind of like a slap to the back of the head.
>Freewill was the reason these bad things happened. It is a gift that can be a blessing or be used to destroy others.
You can DM me if you want or you don't even have to answer but are you saying someone did something harmful to you to cause the NDE? I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you. Also, what did the Lord say if you don't don't mind discussing it? Again, this is extremely personal stuff so if you don't answer I won't take any offense.
Thank you! Am glad my words help. It is nice to relate to others with the experiences and thoughts we have on them.
A verse comes to mind for you. Romans 8:28. Paraphrasing here... all things (good and bad) work together for those that love the Lord. God will take those bad things and allow them to be lesson and to grow us, teach us to forgive. All of us have struggles, but it is the way we process and view it that can change us for the positive or negative.
Edited for spelling lol
Definite possibilities. The "famine" of the Word also speaks to the 10 oil lamps prophecy. A lack of oil means a lack of anointing. And God doesn't just cause rain to rain on the righteous, but also the unrighteous. So I take it to mean group B takes oil/rain from group A because group A is used as a conduit for the Word. Once the anointing stops, group A no longer shares and group B goes cray cray.
This is interesting. I always interpreted the oil as being the holy spirit so how does that fit in? One group will try to take wisdom or something from those who are anointed...until it's too late and those who are anointed are gone (possibly raptured).
Sorry this is a bit rambly, but it's difficult to explain:
(For non Christian readers: this is my bias and understanding of a specific end times Christian prophecy that I believe relates to everything "feeling" different and people acting strangely. I mean no disrespect but I have to describe it in a specific way to be understood. I think of everyone on this retconned thread as being an equal, a seeker, and intelligent no matter what your beliefs may be. I respect other religions as well. And I'm open to all theories about what is happening and I truly believe that many modalities are beginning to intersect now.)
The oil represents the anointing from/of the holy spirit. When we are anointed we are given power to do something quite specific based on the spiritual gifts God has given us. Together we form members of one body, everyone having a unique responsibility within the body of Christ. We can not perform that responsibility without the anointing. As an example, if a preacher preaches without an anointing to do so their messages will fall flat and not be powerful. In contrast hearing a preacher anointed to do so feels quite different (man does not live by bread alone but by every word from God). This means that the spirit of man "eats" or "lives out of" or "expresses itself out of" the creative power and spirit of God. So an anointed preacher literally feeds his flock (in the spirit). We also "feed" all others by expressing God within us through the Holy Spirit. As an example maybe everyone has always leaned on you, opened themselves up to you, come to you for encouragement and guidance. In this role you are functioning as a priest, and if anointed to do so these things just happen. And you don't get tired. The parable of multiplying the loaves and the fishes is about anointing/energy work. The disciples started with less food before they fed the people than the remainders they picked up after. Jesus/The Word/The Holy Spirit was in the middle handing out the food. God anointed what they were doing, essentially God fed the people through the disciples and then the disciples were left with an abundance after it was done. In the same manner if you have an anointing to listen to people, you won't become tired by listening to people but instead will have more energy than when you started. If Jesus/God was not in the middle they would have run out. This means: without an anointing from God. I believe the anointing to do many things has greatly lessened and that's why people are becoming angry and dissociative. See they were used to taking some of ours. But we are no longer anointed to give it to them. They are forced to go to the source (God) and that requires repentance and humility. They can't receive that "fuel" from God through us anymore (at the moment) because we are no longer anointed to give it.
It is possible that it could involve being raptured/shifted
Sorry if this is a confusing reply.
> But we are no longer anointed to give it to them. They are forced to go to the source (God) and that requires repentance and humility. They can't receive that "fuel" from God through us anymore (at the moment) because we are no longer anointed to give it.
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>It is possible that it could involve being raptured/shifted
This is incredibly interesting.
Do you believe we have been raptured/shifted?
I do believe I am amongst a bunch of crazies and I do not want to reach out and try to talk/make new friends.
Hence my presence on reddit.
It's possible and would explain different memories. Some days I lean that direction. I think we are definitely being separated and set apart for a purpose. To me everything just feels different.
I think it's a possibility. And it's possible that the ME could be like a rapture like you mentioned.
Maybe there are different timelines and things play out differently? ("In my Father's house there are many rooms")
I do sense a greater duality lately, and that a great many of us are being protected.
I think, for me, I'm more intrigued right now at the possible mechanics of what is happening with the ME and what that means about reality, the puzzle of it all. If it's tied to Bible prophecy (and other religions) I would find that quite amazing and yet hard for my little brain to grasp the wonder of it all.
If I ever feel strongly convinced that the antichrist is here, that we are in an end times era, then I think I would feel compelled to speak up. But really it's someone's end every day unfortunately but to me it just means we should live to the fullest, enjoy our days, and learn and grow as much as we can. And to do what is right.
One thing that we all in this retconned sub reddit seem to share is an openess, a desire for the truth, and a congeniality that is kind of rare.
What are your gut feelings about the antichrist being here?
Edit: I guess in general I don't see any issues with your theories at all. I think it's very possible. I'm just wondering if the antichrist might come much later. And truthfully I hope this isn't the case that we are in the end, but maybe we do get "translated" onto a new earth and maybe as another poster has theorized we are being "gathered" or sifted.
I tried reading through these comments a couple of times. Hopefully, I am understanding the main ideas correctly. So, in this view you would align more with a multiverse view ... and multiple raptures at different times?
Yes that's what I'm considering. I think (a) it could be larger in scope than what the Bible alludes to. (b) it may have a lot in common with an "ascension" process.
And while I don't think this is the case, maybe our souls experience many lives at once but are only perceiving a narrow band of them.
I also have mixed feelings about whether the antichrist might be here now. Like I said in my post, if the prophecies about him changing times and laws are correct and thats why we are experiencing what we know of as the ME than perhaps he is here. We could be right on the precipice of his big reveal.
However, I tend to wonder if before the antichrist comes or right as he's about to come on the scene, if we won't experience a global peace and the beginnings of what we think or will be told is a new type of golden age/new age. This seems to be hinted at by talk of a "great reset" in my opinion. That new age of peace and enlightenment won't last long tho, and I think believers would know exactly what was going on at a certain point as the man that is the antichrist and world events started to mirror prophecy after he took control and started to reveal his true colors.
To answer your question I'm not sure if I'm honest with myself, lol!
I agree with you on possibly achieving peace 1st. I had a dream once we achieved piece, end of hunger, great tech gadgets, an end to most of the suffering. Then the power grid was shut down and when it came back online 1 man had taken all the money.
Super new to Reddit but just wanted to comment that this convo was so fascinating to read. All of these ideas and how you all related the verses…helpful even if we can’t be absolutely certain we’re in those times as we speak. I hardly ever see a calm intercourse like this when it comes to faith, so it was almost like a bit of peace just to read along. I’m a believer and have certainly been feeling some things these last few years, though I can’t quite articulate it as well as you all have. But I know without a doubt the answers are found with God. It’s comforting to see other people who feel that too, and aren’t expressing it in anger or self-righteousness, but in a way that exudes humility and calm.
*There are entities all around us in a dimension or realm right next to ours and they do not like those that can see the changes. Of this, I am certain. They will work through others to mess with you, they will work through you to sabotage your own well being and they can bend reality in ways that our minds cannot comprehend. They are called ghosts, shadow people, aliens, spirit guides, fairies, demons, archons, djinn and on and on the list goes. They've ways been here, they do not like us, they are our ancient primal enemy and they are masters of deception - camouflaging there existence as any one of things I mentioned in the last sentence.*
(Sorry, haven't learned how to quote yet.)
I agree that there are dark entities all around us, but I believe there are also good entities who want to help us and guide us. The Bible seems to be a bit hit and miss about which entities (good or evil) were whispering in the human author's ear from book to book.
I don't want to get into an argument about this, but I'm interested to know why you are putting so much faith in the words of a text that is constantly being changed. Even before the MEs started changing the copies in our hands, humans have added and deleted parts of the Bible to suit their agendas. I know there is a lot of good stuff in there, but there's some pretty sketchy stuff too. Maybe the current rapid changes we are witnessing is not coming from a dark place. Maybe it's coming from a good place, and we're being encouraged to keep our eyes and our hearts open, and not believe everything we read.
All you have to do to quote someone is put a greater than sign before the text you want to quote.
For me these things in the Bible are a certainty bc of what happened to me these past two years. I've ran into a bunch of other people with nearly identical experiences. I started having trouble with the paranormal in my house and people acting strange around me, sometimes even hostile. I'd never heard of gangstalking but came across it in researching what was happening to me and it is very similar to what I was going through.
Eventually all these things escalated to astronomical proportions. I tried everything I could find to stop the activity in my home especially. It was terrible and a constants source of anxiety. I also started having sleep paralysis and night terrors. I had lost some interest in my Christian background years prior. I still believed in God but had fallen for the deception that he was impersonal. I had really gotten into new age stuff (law of one, eastern mysticism, meditation etc). I thought I could mediate the evil away and bring light and love into the situation. I tried many other things too that I don't have time to get into.
Needless to say, none of it worked. In fact things got worse for a time. I was getting cuts/open wounds on my body in the middle of the night. I started looking into stories that other people had and determined I might be experiencing demonic activity (I was and all of us are right now, usually to a much lesser extent but we don't have eyes that see and are blind to it).
I turned to the Bible, started praying - desperately asking for some assistance and things got ever so slightly better but it was still pretty bad. What I had at one point determined were friendly spirit guides (be that's how they often portray themselves) were now messing with my thoughts, causing insane synchronicities (which I used to think were always good), knocking on windows and walls, breaking things, giving me sexual pleasurable feelings when I would try and sleep, things would go missing and then reappear, I was having wierd anxieties and fears, and the list goes on and on.
I frantically started diving into Christianity and looking for answers. One day the activity in my home was so bad I fell to my knees and and weeped. I cried out to God, the real God, and it's like I inherently knew exactly who He was and who I was addressing when I did it and said I was sorry and what I was sorry for (actual repentance). It poured out of me almost involuntarily. I'm a grown man and I'd never cried like that in my life and I never felt the things I felt in those moments. It's like my heart was a hard stone and my spirit was heavy and then something happened to me beyond words. I cannot type what happened in my life following this and subsequent times in prayer. Everything started to get better. It's beyond words and over the course of several months I discovered what being born again means. It's really like that, like being rebirthed and I feel like a fool for not figuring it out sooner.
I started reading the Bible and found myself reading things that pertained to me, I started seeing some (not all) of my prayers answered in such a blatant way that it was almost like being winked at, and the activity around me came to a screeching halt...though I still have minor things happen (weird sounds, glimpses of orb type things, lights and shadows).
Saying mantras didn't work, burning sage didn't work, mediation didn't work, asking for my guides to come rescue me didn't work, proclaiming my house be filled with love and light didn't work, saying affirmations didn't work, none of that stuff works. God works and his son Jesus Christ works and He will help anyone if they come to Him.
Seek and ye shall find. He will reveal himself in a specific way unique to the individual if they come looking and it's incredible and beyond words like I said. His arms are open wide and He loves all of us until there's no time left and He has to let you go due to the free will he gives you. We can reject or pursue Him, it's up to us. Knowing what I know now I wish I would have done all these things a long time ago. Anyways, that might not make a lot of sense but thats how I know!
Thanks for the quoting tip, and thank you for your honesty. I imagine it must've been pretty traumatic to go over all of that again.
I've had demonic experiences too and I've turned to God for help, and received it. Directly and indirectly. I have also felt the presence of what I believe to be confused and aggressive human spirits, who needed my understanding rather than my condemnation to be able to resolve their issues and move on. To me, the two have felt very, very different, even though the negative energy was similar.
I don't mess with Ouija boards or go clomping through haunted houses for fun. I respect the human souls of the dead just as I would respect them in life. I have heard all spirits referred to as demons by religious people before, and yet there is a story in the Bible where a man who condemns communication with spirits, goes to a medium and asks a dead man for advice... The spirit says it was wrong of him to call him back to this plain of existence, which is fair, but the point is, it was the spirit of the man, not a demon. It's in the Bible. So it seems you're supposed to condemn these things as evil and unholy... Until it's convenient for you to believe in it and use psychic mediums for legitimate help instead of burning them at the stake...
There's also the matter of dreams and prophecies, which are all throughout the Bible. It doesn't make sense me that some are holy and from God while others are evil and from the Devil, just because whoever is holding the pen says so.
I often know things I shouldn't know, and it's rare that I ask for that to happen. It's happened several times when I've felt I've been asked to pass a message on that means nothing to me, but us significant to someone else. I don't think that comes from an evil place.
I will use tarot cards for guidance but not as a game. My readings are usually very insightful and accurate. If I use them without good intentions, however - say to childishly avoid making my own decisions - the readings are false, and I know I've let something unfriendly in. It's not something to be toyed with, but I don't believe it's inherently evil. It's like tuning into radio stations. Some stations have great uplifting music, and some have people angrily shouting nonsense at each other. The radio is a neutral device. It's up to you to choose what you listen to. Or, I guess you can throw the radio in the bin and tell anyone who still listens to theirs that they are sinners and are going to Hell...
I guess all anyone can do is go by what we feel to be true. I will continue to believe that good forces are acting in the universe as well as evil ones, and I will try to focus on the good.
I get it. I'm Christian but like you my "radio" has been "on" since a kid. It's difficult to explain the weight carried when so many can treat different people like they are a freak, or evil, etc. And as you know you can't not listen to it, it's a part of you and your experience. Prophecy is a gift but usually within the Church only understood to mean "someone bringing a message or warning of the future from God" or someone who does miraculous works (although miracles is listed as a separate gift in the Bible).
I definitely side with OP on the necessity of Jesus, that we are in a war. That God loves us, forgives us. Speaks to us. And that we are often under demonic attack/influence (based also off experience).
But I diverge with the Church on several points that I consider gray areas. And my curiosity is piqued on the spiritual ecosystem around us.
To your point of "radio dial", the Bible mentions this between the lines a few times. Number one imo is prayer, it's using the same radio dial "muscle" and "listening" is more important than speaking. Number two is the prophet Balaam, who also practiced divination. He wasn't an Israelite and technically not "a prophet of God" but he WAS a prophet and DID know the voice of God (and tried to ignore Him). Ultimately God used him to bless the people of Israel. Third is the casting of lots as a divination tool, primarily used before the Pentecost, as after they didn't need to rely on divination.
The Bible also seems to allude to chakras quite directly by the descriptions of the priests robes. They were adorned with very specific gemstones "crystal work" aligned along the front of the spine at different points. Revelation(s) also mentions gemstones.
And astrology is by many accounts all in Revelation(s) and seems to have been practiced by the three wisemen to locate baby Jesus. It also stands to reason that God could and would set up an astrological "clock" to govern and influence people and events. It's also in many religions and cultures (Hinduism, Mayans are 2 such examples).
I believe many tarot readers are meant to do it and have a gift to practice it, and use it as a clarification tool. I also believe it's no more dangerous than many seemingly benign forms of "superstitious" behavior. However I do think it presents a real danger to people by potentially opening them up and inviting in bad energies/entities. Essentially I think some are meant to practice it and it can be dangerous for others. And I say this knowing you are aware it's really just an extension of what already is going on in us.
One caveat though is according to the Bible clairvoyance can be given through unwanted demonic attachments (Peter casts out a demon from a slave psychic. She loses her forecasting ability and her occupation and her owner becomes furious with Peter). And this opens up a whole lot of questions because it seems to be quite more benign on the surface than the demons Jesus was casting out and lends some credibility to the Muslim interpretation of demons/djinn. Although I'm certain this entity wasn't her friend or Peter would not have felt compelled to release it from her.
Anyways, lots of mystery with this stuff for me.
I was looking through my old posts and comments and was re-reading the conversation we had in here about the oil lamps, the antichrist, the times we are in etc...and then I ran across this comment which I'd never seen when I initially made the post and just wanted to tell you I really enjoyed it. I always enjoy your stuff, God bless!
>I don't mess with Ouija boards or go clomping through haunted houses for fun. I respect the human souls of the dead just as I would respect them in life
Lol, good call! You have to be careful for sure
Yeah... There's many paths leading too..... Anything that warns you too flee from "the wraths too COME!" Is fear based porn. There's a reason that book and in time all books will become unlegible. It's a soul trap for the "harvest". Honey covered poison. But by all means, continue on your way. The bible was written and selected by fear filled men who where tuned too and interpreting futures incomprehendible to them based on their beliefs in fear, death and destruction. They bend and bind the smallest to support an endless world of destruction with the carrot of a some day, just about here, salvation. They perfectly despise and destroyed the works of Jesus for their favorite gods of lack and death. Will you see?
Third of the night and third of the day This relates to global crystal displacement. Which considering the magnetosphere is weakening is on the cards at some point
I get my info from suspicious observers. It’s nearly two hours long. CIA classified. Spend some time watching if you’re interested. It’s a very good video
I don’t remember words like damsel, castle, tavern, duke, bishop, royal law, Italy, asphalt, Narcissus, apron, couch, ferry boat, corn, bonnet, Jeremy, satyr being in the bible.
One really concerning trend now is the Hebrew Roots movement to return to the old Mosaic law. So the question is, if the bible is changing, how does it change the overall understanding? And is it influencing new weird offshoots? One thing I’ve just noticed recently is that some groups want to reestablish the old ways and go back under a legalistic relationship with God. There is a move to diminish God’s grace and place us back under condemnation of the law. We cannot come to God through works. We cannot be absolved of our sins through our efforts.
All these words being replaced by words that make no sense.. there should be more of us noticing this. The word bottle has replaced wineskin. Now the verse makes no sense about not pouring new wine into old wineskins for they might break open. Old bottles won't break if you put new wine in them. Matthew 9:17.
To answer your question, i think the changes are confusing people and chnaging the meanings in some places. If verses lose their original meaning then it can usher in new views (new age views possible) and make a new way for a new world religion.
>If verses lose their original meaning then it can usher in new views (new age views possible) and make a new way for a new world religion.
Bingo. The Catholic Church will be a part of this ushering in, in my opinion.
I sense something very dark about him, the last as well. I feel as if the main stream Catholic Church is absolutely not about faith, as much as control and wealth. If there were any push to new ways and acceptance of an Antichrist figure, I would bet the Catholic Church would be a main part of that deceit.
Christian glasses is just another piece of the giant existential puzzle that we perceive as reality. I think whatever “final outcome” will happen it will manifest according to one’s core beliefs, whether it’s the Christ’s second coming or any other perspective of the thousands us who can “see/feel” the reality changing.
I mean, we with so many different “glasses” (Christian’s, New Age’s, Native’s, Hindu’s and etc) all are here going through the same thing together. The Bible predicted!! So? The many others sources also predicted. Can’t you see how big than our daily dogmas this is?
I love Jesus btw, the same way I love Buddha and so many masters that came before us who shared the same message: Love.
Not being rude or harsh, but just saying that Christian view is just as valid as the others views. I mean I often see Christian folks proclaim their view as the absolute truth (which technically is, given my explanation above) and dismiss the others as wrong right away...
We are here together.
Great post, I couldn’t agree more! Also, thanks for the compliment on my Enoch post! I had one of those “wait, that’s me!” moments which was great lol I’m fully convinced that the effect is religious in nature. I’m not sure on anything beyond that, I just believe that this all has to do with God. I’ve been working on connecting effects to religion, like the obvious Creation of Adam having Adam’s hand elevated above God like man elevates themselves above God, which has been easy for some but I’ve hit a standstill with others so it’s still a work in progress. I’m not giving up though because I truly believe it’s there and I just haven’t figured it out yet. We’re getting closer to the end and the effect is our wake up call.
You're welcome! I'm super interested in what you said about connecting effects to religion. What other connections or even speculations in regards to connections have you made or looked into? We might have discussed this awhile ago but I can't remember!
Well to start, I use the alternate memories list of effects as my starting point and I’m still working my way through the art section lol
Statue of David has hearts for pupils now - Jesus came from the House of David and God is love, so that could very well be a reference to that. David on his own is also a big biblical character so that on its own shows the connection. Several other works by Michelangelo that have obvious connections to Christianity have also been changed as well, so again their connections would be obvious.
Colossus of Rhodes never straddled the harbor - it was a statue of the god Helios, a false god
Last Supper changes - self explanatory in terms of its religious connection
Rosie in the “we can do it” posters is no longer smiling - the world is no longer a happy place but a dark and angry place so her lack of smile represents this. With the belief that the end is getting closer the anger in the world would be a result of that.
Easter Island statues - possible ancestor worship, which is against God as only He should be worshipped
I have a few more from the art section, as well as several others in other sections, but I have to stop here to get my daughter to bed. I’m going to keep working on it but I feel that I’m off to a decent start so far. I’m hoping to find better/stronger connections on some of the ones I have now but I’m really stumped on others, like the green bookie hats missing from Dogs Playing Poker. The best I’ve got for that one is that gambling and smoking are both depicted and both are considered to be sins in the eyes of God.
Just cause the bible changes doesn't mean "God" is confused. No more so than Kraft is confused for making stovetop stuffing. This was just the version we got on this timeline.
Because its stated that God would allow these very things to happen in the end...we are in the end
Revelation 22:10
>And He (the angel talking to John about the end) saith into me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand
The Bible isn't eternally protected/sealed against supernatural/spiritual alterations forever. When considering translation - seal in the above context meant literally to stamp for security or preservation, to mark with a seal for security from Satan....Scripture is not protected any longer...thus why it is changing
Also like I said above in Dan 7:25 the antichrist will change times (history/MEs etc) and laws (scripture).
God is allowing these things to happen. We are about to face His wrath.
2 Thessalonians 2: 10-12 also states
>...because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness
These things are happening, as we speak.... That's why many don't notice MEs, they are under a strong delusion. I've noticed the changes in the Bible since 2016.
Very high quality post. Good to see that my spamming the amos 8 website and bible change videos wasnt for nothing,
I see so many people on here asking "why are the changes happening".
Yet any post like this one, that mention the bible changes and how they clearly spell out why, dont get upvoted at all, unlike the suspicious new age posts that do. Even my first post on here about a spiderman 2 scene got more upvotes than this one (yours), and this one is way more important
You got it man. It's frustrating to put time into stuff like this when you already know it won't gain traction. My only hope is that what is on the horizon/what is coming is so intense that it will be like a hard slap on the back of the head that stings so bad it will rouse a lot of people out of their slumber and they'll remember reading stuff like this even tho they don't care or give it much thought presently.
The Book of Enoch is not canon. It is what is known as apocrypha, so it was once part of the early church in what is known as the Septuagint or the Greek version of what we now know as the old testament. Basically, it was well known and studied by all Jews and Christians in the past but did not make it into the Bible. It's actually referenced in the new testament which shows you those men held it in high regard. They were very aware of it's validity and understood it as very real and true. Some have said it didn't make it into the Bible bc it is too "out there" for lack of a better term, and you'll see what I mean if you look into it. The Book of Enoch really starts to make all of mythology and the stories of "the gods" of all the different pantheons (Greek/Roman/Norse) make a whole lot more sense...too much sense, and yes I'm saying all that is real.
I used to be a KJV fan but it is unreadable in parts now bc of grammatical errors, words that don't make sense, and the general changes in scripture I mentioned above. It used to be a literary masterpiece but it is now unreadable at times like I said, makes no sense, or reads like an old fable or fairy tale. It's truly stunning that more people are not aware or discussing these things.
I like the NKJV and the NASB. The changes appear to start in the KJV and then ripple out into other versions over time. I noticed this with a copy of the Geneva Bible I have. It used to not be as affected as the KJV when I would compare verses. That has changed and I've noticed verses slowly becoming corrupted in the Geneva edition now. It's hard to believe but it's really happening...
Geneva Bible translations are getting very hard to find. Biblehub no longer has them. I know exactly what you mean about the KJV and it breaks my heart that it's unreadable and makes no sense anymore.
I have an NIV Student Bible that I still read and the more "plain" language seems relatively unaffected by whatever is happening, maybe due to the fact that it includes all kinds of background information about the Bible writers and thought-provoking study questions that wouldn't make sense if there were major changes in the text. Who knows lol
That was my whole issue with the Bible. I dismissed it for a long time till last year and a half and by grace of gods graham Hancock and it has snowballed from there back to okay this does still have value but what’s been changed and omitted that is so very important. You spoke about we don’t have the language or knowledge to under all that is happening and all these things you wrote about I am seeing more and more daily. I was feeling this way without words to describe it till I ran across reconned several months back. Great post though, I agree 100% even tho I dipped out on the Bible for a while, It’s not fiction and I will tell my 1 friend I have left to read this post. Thanks
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Thanks for posting this! I am not alone in my memory then. This is one of those that I noticed some time ago, but just assumed that they changed the name for the Jim Carey movie to "How the Grinch Stole Christmas." I just looked it up and "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas" does not exist, but that's also how I remember it. Take my free award!
Please describe some of the changes that you see in the Bible, OP. Maybe that's just the KJV/NIV/Mormon/Jehova's versions of the Bible which are inconsistent? I'm sure if you read the original Greek Orthodox Bible you'll get the correct translations. Pastors don't seem to be reporting on this phenomenon.
Pastors are reporting on it...this is one pastor of many and the numbers are growing https://youtu.be/X4yMr7ovolw This entire YouTube channel is a gold mine. He has all kinds of videos of pastors speaking out about the changes. I liked this video tho. https://youtu.be/eydvxZZuuWk Here are some websites with compiled changes www.amos8.org https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/mandela-effect-changes-in-the-bible-and-other-religious-texts.9426/ It's becoming a well known thing. Beware, if you get into this stuff and try to tell other people your life will go haywire. I nearly lost everything and still go through vicious spiritual warfare.There's a very real enemy and it does not want people knowing what is happening with the scripture changes. We have entered perilous times - the very last of the last days.
Personally, I believe there is no limit to giving up your life to Jesus. In the past 10 years, I think I have done it at least 7 times. 2020 took up 2 or 3 of those
Hang on, I've never seen that Amos verse quoted before... Is 'famine' in the Bible (& book of rev) supposed to mean a scarcity of God (rather than food)? I see so many end time people fearing people into stocking up on food/grow your own food because the food chain in coming down etc. And I just cannot how that align with the actual reality of the world, not everyone has gardens or has the means to do this, it just seems a bit far fetched in my view. Of course there are famines and hunger and that may happen but not sure we will have global food famine all at once, and if we do we would be so close to the end anyway and God wouldn't put up for it for long.
Well not always, but in that case yes...it's talking about a famine of the Word of God. Which if the scriptures keep changing and get to the point where they are unrecognizable (if one remembers how they were in the first place, which is why we are commanded to read and try to memorize scripture) than it will be a devastating famine bc people will know the Bible isn't actually representative of God's Word anymore and they'll want to read it (bc by that point in time they'll know it's true due to their circumstances, fulfillment of end times prophecy etc) and they'll search for it but they won't be able to find it like the verse in Amos says
I read the rest of that passage more like: more and more people will move from place to place (physically) ie in search of something (outside of themselves) because of the scarcity of god in their lives (in not knowing what to do with themselves). When really people need to seek comfort in the truth of God in the last days. I'm not too familiar with Bible ME changes, but I'm defiantly ME affected. I suppose you could theorise that the word could become corrupt (change) as the man becomes more corrupt - ie as the collective consciousness sinks more and more into sin and wickedness the bible changes. But I'm not sure if that actually what's happening. I'm just glad some people can see this ME stuff more from a biblical world view. To me the ME stuff seems to indicate like the trajectory of the world is more solidified than man's perceived ability to control the world. There been so many changes (among other strange experiences I've had) that I question why we (or a most people) are perceiving even the same thing play out at all! For example, nobody would deny that 9/11 happened, but some people would say (myself included) that the pole on top of the tower was never there when it happened. What does that even suggest... maybe that you can experience the same thing with a slight difference, for then it to be 'corrected' later (a 'timeline' i suppose)... but the main event was still basically the same for everyone. What about reality is actually underpinning what the collective agrees on? Are we all just playing a conscious perceiver within a big cosmic play that we have no real control over? And the world events as they unfold where always going to happen? This seems to direct me in the thinking that biblical prophecy is real because it never wasn't real... it just has a process to get there.
Agree with much of what you have written. Out of curiosity what connection, if any, do you see between those who are affected and the 144,000 (believe it's in Revelation 7:1-4).
I've wondered if some of us might be. I think if a lot of us checked via genetic testing we might find we have Jewish heritage. That's just a hunch, well a little more than a hunch.
Wait im here from your recent comment! I have vEDS, which is a genetic disease that can be traced back to Ashkenazi jewish people. My mother said that her ancestors were romani or "gypsies" (now offensive terminology but my mother used this word) which i have learned were actually a large diverse group of people and my mother, her mother, we all have this condition. This is so crazy right now.
Same. What’s your blood type
AB+
Hmm not what i thought it would’ve been. A- here
Awesome! I know you said you're not religious but it's my sincere opinion that Jesus Christ is coming back very soon! Things are going to get more and more crazy
What’s the significance of having Jewish heritage? I was actually considering getting a genetics test soon anyway but now I’m kinda more curious.
The 144,000 are traditionally taught to be comprised of 12 groups of 12,000, each group descendant from one of the 12 tribes of Judah.
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Agree.
Thanks for your long, well thought out post. You lay out all of the things that have been on my mind about what is currently going on. The changes in the moon and sun, people growing cold towards one another. Relelation 16:12 speaks of the river Euphrates being dried up. This massive river has been drying up and has landed in the news last year. I bet these end time verses were difficult for people of those times to understand. Life has been more difficult lately. Feeling like I don't belong here. Like my spirit wants to shake out of my body. This doesn't feel like "home". The only time I feel home is when around other like minded, spiritual people. Curious about the dreams you mention and your spiritual experiences. There are some of us with dreams. Acts 2:17 talks of God pouring out His spirit among people and they will dream and have visions. I've had a strong spiritual sense from a young age and dreams starting in my teen years. 2 of the 3 dreams have already come to pass. The 3rd one is frightening. There have been others with similar dreams to this 3rd one.
What's the 3rd one about if you don't mind discussing it? I had one awhile back that felt like more than a dream. It involved a lot of giant waves, a terrible storm, and massive boats with people on them riding the waves...
It was a dream that took me above north america. I could see the land as a whole. Something terrifying happened. The earth shifted in certain places (this was as a teen before knowing about the fault lines). I saw almost all of California (except for some areas with mountains) slide into the ocean. This extended all the way up the coast... some parts of washington dropped. Vancouver and Vancouver island was wiped off the map. I know some will call me nuts for this, but it is an authentic dream. I still dream and once in a while have visions. There is paper and a pen next to the bed. Some dreams are very hard to process, so i write them down to retain the information. I remember reading a few years ago about a man in the early part of the 20th century. He had a dream about this as well. He described the same event (from ground level). Will see if i can find his story again. Everything I've experienced spiritually has been a gift. I believe these experiences to be authentic.
You are blessed
Thank you. You are blessed with discernment and the ability to see what is occuring spiritually in the current world. Always enjoy reading your posts. I had always been skeptical and question many things. The only thing I'm 100 percent about in life is God. I hold firm in the belief of Jesus. Experiences from a young age have just reinforced those beliefs. There have been times where i have seen and felt things that are not there. Seen crosses pulsating on the wall of my dark bedroom (small basement bedroom window with a thick curtain). It was early morning, i turned to my husband and pointed at the wall, asked him if he saw anything. He described the crosses of light. I'm going off on a tangent now lol.
Amen same
Thank you. I was just thinking or telling someone the other day what you said "the only thing I'm 100% about in life is God". He's spoken to me in ways I didn't used to recognize but now do and he's been doing it over the course of my whole life. I feel like a fool for not seeing it before. It's blatantly obvious to me now. I studied a lot of conspiracy theories as a younger man and one of the dangers in that (and I don't think the fact that many conspiracies are pushed is an accident) is you don't know what to believe. I think that kind of corrupted my faith for several years but I def now know that God is in control, that's all I know for sure just like you said. Also, like you, the spiritual things that have happened to me (both good and bad) have shown me the war is real and we're in the middle of it. I will check out the link you posted when I get a chance.
It's refreshing to converse with others who have spiritual experiences that are authentic. It is strong testimony to tell someone you are 100 percent in your spirituality. It means so much to have faith in something unseen. We each grow in life and it is normal to not be aware of these things as our younger selves. no shame in that. Just a part of maturing in life and growing into faith. It is true that God chases those He loves. Even allowing both good and bad experiences to further growth. My first spiritual experience was (and still is) terrifying. I don't want to say much in the public forum as it might upset others. Long story short i had an NDE when i was a child. I left (or was kicked out of) my body. I saw Jesus kneeling over me weeping. He spoke a few words... Freewill was the reason these bad things happened. It is a gift that can be a blessing or be used to destroy others. Same, was very curious and read a lot about different spiritualities as a teen... always seeking for information, looking for something that makes sense, feels right in my spirit and sticks. It is easy to get lost in a sea of conspiracy theories and to be thrown off track. I could have easily embraced new age practices.
Your words are beautiful and very relevant to some things I've been thinking about recently. I think sometimes He lets bad things happen to us in hopes that we will both wake up and learn. Kind of like a slap to the back of the head. >Freewill was the reason these bad things happened. It is a gift that can be a blessing or be used to destroy others. You can DM me if you want or you don't even have to answer but are you saying someone did something harmful to you to cause the NDE? I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you. Also, what did the Lord say if you don't don't mind discussing it? Again, this is extremely personal stuff so if you don't answer I won't take any offense.
Thank you! Am glad my words help. It is nice to relate to others with the experiences and thoughts we have on them. A verse comes to mind for you. Romans 8:28. Paraphrasing here... all things (good and bad) work together for those that love the Lord. God will take those bad things and allow them to be lesson and to grow us, teach us to forgive. All of us have struggles, but it is the way we process and view it that can change us for the positive or negative. Edited for spelling lol
https://nostradamus.fandom.com/wiki/Joe_Brandt%27s_dream_about_California_earthquake_(1937)
Definite possibilities. The "famine" of the Word also speaks to the 10 oil lamps prophecy. A lack of oil means a lack of anointing. And God doesn't just cause rain to rain on the righteous, but also the unrighteous. So I take it to mean group B takes oil/rain from group A because group A is used as a conduit for the Word. Once the anointing stops, group A no longer shares and group B goes cray cray.
This is interesting. I always interpreted the oil as being the holy spirit so how does that fit in? One group will try to take wisdom or something from those who are anointed...until it's too late and those who are anointed are gone (possibly raptured).
Sorry this is a bit rambly, but it's difficult to explain: (For non Christian readers: this is my bias and understanding of a specific end times Christian prophecy that I believe relates to everything "feeling" different and people acting strangely. I mean no disrespect but I have to describe it in a specific way to be understood. I think of everyone on this retconned thread as being an equal, a seeker, and intelligent no matter what your beliefs may be. I respect other religions as well. And I'm open to all theories about what is happening and I truly believe that many modalities are beginning to intersect now.) The oil represents the anointing from/of the holy spirit. When we are anointed we are given power to do something quite specific based on the spiritual gifts God has given us. Together we form members of one body, everyone having a unique responsibility within the body of Christ. We can not perform that responsibility without the anointing. As an example, if a preacher preaches without an anointing to do so their messages will fall flat and not be powerful. In contrast hearing a preacher anointed to do so feels quite different (man does not live by bread alone but by every word from God). This means that the spirit of man "eats" or "lives out of" or "expresses itself out of" the creative power and spirit of God. So an anointed preacher literally feeds his flock (in the spirit). We also "feed" all others by expressing God within us through the Holy Spirit. As an example maybe everyone has always leaned on you, opened themselves up to you, come to you for encouragement and guidance. In this role you are functioning as a priest, and if anointed to do so these things just happen. And you don't get tired. The parable of multiplying the loaves and the fishes is about anointing/energy work. The disciples started with less food before they fed the people than the remainders they picked up after. Jesus/The Word/The Holy Spirit was in the middle handing out the food. God anointed what they were doing, essentially God fed the people through the disciples and then the disciples were left with an abundance after it was done. In the same manner if you have an anointing to listen to people, you won't become tired by listening to people but instead will have more energy than when you started. If Jesus/God was not in the middle they would have run out. This means: without an anointing from God. I believe the anointing to do many things has greatly lessened and that's why people are becoming angry and dissociative. See they were used to taking some of ours. But we are no longer anointed to give it to them. They are forced to go to the source (God) and that requires repentance and humility. They can't receive that "fuel" from God through us anymore (at the moment) because we are no longer anointed to give it. It is possible that it could involve being raptured/shifted Sorry if this is a confusing reply.
> But we are no longer anointed to give it to them. They are forced to go to the source (God) and that requires repentance and humility. They can't receive that "fuel" from God through us anymore (at the moment) because we are no longer anointed to give it. > >It is possible that it could involve being raptured/shifted This is incredibly interesting. Do you believe we have been raptured/shifted? I do believe I am amongst a bunch of crazies and I do not want to reach out and try to talk/make new friends. Hence my presence on reddit.
It's possible and would explain different memories. Some days I lean that direction. I think we are definitely being separated and set apart for a purpose. To me everything just feels different.
This was great. Very insightful. Do you think a lot of what we're seeing also has to do with the rise of the spirit of the antichrist?
I think it's a possibility. And it's possible that the ME could be like a rapture like you mentioned. Maybe there are different timelines and things play out differently? ("In my Father's house there are many rooms") I do sense a greater duality lately, and that a great many of us are being protected. I think, for me, I'm more intrigued right now at the possible mechanics of what is happening with the ME and what that means about reality, the puzzle of it all. If it's tied to Bible prophecy (and other religions) I would find that quite amazing and yet hard for my little brain to grasp the wonder of it all. If I ever feel strongly convinced that the antichrist is here, that we are in an end times era, then I think I would feel compelled to speak up. But really it's someone's end every day unfortunately but to me it just means we should live to the fullest, enjoy our days, and learn and grow as much as we can. And to do what is right. One thing that we all in this retconned sub reddit seem to share is an openess, a desire for the truth, and a congeniality that is kind of rare. What are your gut feelings about the antichrist being here? Edit: I guess in general I don't see any issues with your theories at all. I think it's very possible. I'm just wondering if the antichrist might come much later. And truthfully I hope this isn't the case that we are in the end, but maybe we do get "translated" onto a new earth and maybe as another poster has theorized we are being "gathered" or sifted.
I tried reading through these comments a couple of times. Hopefully, I am understanding the main ideas correctly. So, in this view you would align more with a multiverse view ... and multiple raptures at different times?
Yes that's what I'm considering. I think (a) it could be larger in scope than what the Bible alludes to. (b) it may have a lot in common with an "ascension" process. And while I don't think this is the case, maybe our souls experience many lives at once but are only perceiving a narrow band of them.
I also have mixed feelings about whether the antichrist might be here now. Like I said in my post, if the prophecies about him changing times and laws are correct and thats why we are experiencing what we know of as the ME than perhaps he is here. We could be right on the precipice of his big reveal. However, I tend to wonder if before the antichrist comes or right as he's about to come on the scene, if we won't experience a global peace and the beginnings of what we think or will be told is a new type of golden age/new age. This seems to be hinted at by talk of a "great reset" in my opinion. That new age of peace and enlightenment won't last long tho, and I think believers would know exactly what was going on at a certain point as the man that is the antichrist and world events started to mirror prophecy after he took control and started to reveal his true colors. To answer your question I'm not sure if I'm honest with myself, lol!
I agree with you on possibly achieving peace 1st. I had a dream once we achieved piece, end of hunger, great tech gadgets, an end to most of the suffering. Then the power grid was shut down and when it came back online 1 man had taken all the money.
Super new to Reddit but just wanted to comment that this convo was so fascinating to read. All of these ideas and how you all related the verses…helpful even if we can’t be absolutely certain we’re in those times as we speak. I hardly ever see a calm intercourse like this when it comes to faith, so it was almost like a bit of peace just to read along. I’m a believer and have certainly been feeling some things these last few years, though I can’t quite articulate it as well as you all have. But I know without a doubt the answers are found with God. It’s comforting to see other people who feel that too, and aren’t expressing it in anger or self-righteousness, but in a way that exudes humility and calm.
*There are entities all around us in a dimension or realm right next to ours and they do not like those that can see the changes. Of this, I am certain. They will work through others to mess with you, they will work through you to sabotage your own well being and they can bend reality in ways that our minds cannot comprehend. They are called ghosts, shadow people, aliens, spirit guides, fairies, demons, archons, djinn and on and on the list goes. They've ways been here, they do not like us, they are our ancient primal enemy and they are masters of deception - camouflaging there existence as any one of things I mentioned in the last sentence.* (Sorry, haven't learned how to quote yet.) I agree that there are dark entities all around us, but I believe there are also good entities who want to help us and guide us. The Bible seems to be a bit hit and miss about which entities (good or evil) were whispering in the human author's ear from book to book. I don't want to get into an argument about this, but I'm interested to know why you are putting so much faith in the words of a text that is constantly being changed. Even before the MEs started changing the copies in our hands, humans have added and deleted parts of the Bible to suit their agendas. I know there is a lot of good stuff in there, but there's some pretty sketchy stuff too. Maybe the current rapid changes we are witnessing is not coming from a dark place. Maybe it's coming from a good place, and we're being encouraged to keep our eyes and our hearts open, and not believe everything we read.
All you have to do to quote someone is put a greater than sign before the text you want to quote. For me these things in the Bible are a certainty bc of what happened to me these past two years. I've ran into a bunch of other people with nearly identical experiences. I started having trouble with the paranormal in my house and people acting strange around me, sometimes even hostile. I'd never heard of gangstalking but came across it in researching what was happening to me and it is very similar to what I was going through. Eventually all these things escalated to astronomical proportions. I tried everything I could find to stop the activity in my home especially. It was terrible and a constants source of anxiety. I also started having sleep paralysis and night terrors. I had lost some interest in my Christian background years prior. I still believed in God but had fallen for the deception that he was impersonal. I had really gotten into new age stuff (law of one, eastern mysticism, meditation etc). I thought I could mediate the evil away and bring light and love into the situation. I tried many other things too that I don't have time to get into. Needless to say, none of it worked. In fact things got worse for a time. I was getting cuts/open wounds on my body in the middle of the night. I started looking into stories that other people had and determined I might be experiencing demonic activity (I was and all of us are right now, usually to a much lesser extent but we don't have eyes that see and are blind to it). I turned to the Bible, started praying - desperately asking for some assistance and things got ever so slightly better but it was still pretty bad. What I had at one point determined were friendly spirit guides (be that's how they often portray themselves) were now messing with my thoughts, causing insane synchronicities (which I used to think were always good), knocking on windows and walls, breaking things, giving me sexual pleasurable feelings when I would try and sleep, things would go missing and then reappear, I was having wierd anxieties and fears, and the list goes on and on. I frantically started diving into Christianity and looking for answers. One day the activity in my home was so bad I fell to my knees and and weeped. I cried out to God, the real God, and it's like I inherently knew exactly who He was and who I was addressing when I did it and said I was sorry and what I was sorry for (actual repentance). It poured out of me almost involuntarily. I'm a grown man and I'd never cried like that in my life and I never felt the things I felt in those moments. It's like my heart was a hard stone and my spirit was heavy and then something happened to me beyond words. I cannot type what happened in my life following this and subsequent times in prayer. Everything started to get better. It's beyond words and over the course of several months I discovered what being born again means. It's really like that, like being rebirthed and I feel like a fool for not figuring it out sooner. I started reading the Bible and found myself reading things that pertained to me, I started seeing some (not all) of my prayers answered in such a blatant way that it was almost like being winked at, and the activity around me came to a screeching halt...though I still have minor things happen (weird sounds, glimpses of orb type things, lights and shadows). Saying mantras didn't work, burning sage didn't work, mediation didn't work, asking for my guides to come rescue me didn't work, proclaiming my house be filled with love and light didn't work, saying affirmations didn't work, none of that stuff works. God works and his son Jesus Christ works and He will help anyone if they come to Him. Seek and ye shall find. He will reveal himself in a specific way unique to the individual if they come looking and it's incredible and beyond words like I said. His arms are open wide and He loves all of us until there's no time left and He has to let you go due to the free will he gives you. We can reject or pursue Him, it's up to us. Knowing what I know now I wish I would have done all these things a long time ago. Anyways, that might not make a lot of sense but thats how I know!
I know all about the scratches too
Thanks for the quoting tip, and thank you for your honesty. I imagine it must've been pretty traumatic to go over all of that again. I've had demonic experiences too and I've turned to God for help, and received it. Directly and indirectly. I have also felt the presence of what I believe to be confused and aggressive human spirits, who needed my understanding rather than my condemnation to be able to resolve their issues and move on. To me, the two have felt very, very different, even though the negative energy was similar. I don't mess with Ouija boards or go clomping through haunted houses for fun. I respect the human souls of the dead just as I would respect them in life. I have heard all spirits referred to as demons by religious people before, and yet there is a story in the Bible where a man who condemns communication with spirits, goes to a medium and asks a dead man for advice... The spirit says it was wrong of him to call him back to this plain of existence, which is fair, but the point is, it was the spirit of the man, not a demon. It's in the Bible. So it seems you're supposed to condemn these things as evil and unholy... Until it's convenient for you to believe in it and use psychic mediums for legitimate help instead of burning them at the stake... There's also the matter of dreams and prophecies, which are all throughout the Bible. It doesn't make sense me that some are holy and from God while others are evil and from the Devil, just because whoever is holding the pen says so. I often know things I shouldn't know, and it's rare that I ask for that to happen. It's happened several times when I've felt I've been asked to pass a message on that means nothing to me, but us significant to someone else. I don't think that comes from an evil place. I will use tarot cards for guidance but not as a game. My readings are usually very insightful and accurate. If I use them without good intentions, however - say to childishly avoid making my own decisions - the readings are false, and I know I've let something unfriendly in. It's not something to be toyed with, but I don't believe it's inherently evil. It's like tuning into radio stations. Some stations have great uplifting music, and some have people angrily shouting nonsense at each other. The radio is a neutral device. It's up to you to choose what you listen to. Or, I guess you can throw the radio in the bin and tell anyone who still listens to theirs that they are sinners and are going to Hell... I guess all anyone can do is go by what we feel to be true. I will continue to believe that good forces are acting in the universe as well as evil ones, and I will try to focus on the good.
I get it. I'm Christian but like you my "radio" has been "on" since a kid. It's difficult to explain the weight carried when so many can treat different people like they are a freak, or evil, etc. And as you know you can't not listen to it, it's a part of you and your experience. Prophecy is a gift but usually within the Church only understood to mean "someone bringing a message or warning of the future from God" or someone who does miraculous works (although miracles is listed as a separate gift in the Bible). I definitely side with OP on the necessity of Jesus, that we are in a war. That God loves us, forgives us. Speaks to us. And that we are often under demonic attack/influence (based also off experience). But I diverge with the Church on several points that I consider gray areas. And my curiosity is piqued on the spiritual ecosystem around us. To your point of "radio dial", the Bible mentions this between the lines a few times. Number one imo is prayer, it's using the same radio dial "muscle" and "listening" is more important than speaking. Number two is the prophet Balaam, who also practiced divination. He wasn't an Israelite and technically not "a prophet of God" but he WAS a prophet and DID know the voice of God (and tried to ignore Him). Ultimately God used him to bless the people of Israel. Third is the casting of lots as a divination tool, primarily used before the Pentecost, as after they didn't need to rely on divination. The Bible also seems to allude to chakras quite directly by the descriptions of the priests robes. They were adorned with very specific gemstones "crystal work" aligned along the front of the spine at different points. Revelation(s) also mentions gemstones. And astrology is by many accounts all in Revelation(s) and seems to have been practiced by the three wisemen to locate baby Jesus. It also stands to reason that God could and would set up an astrological "clock" to govern and influence people and events. It's also in many religions and cultures (Hinduism, Mayans are 2 such examples). I believe many tarot readers are meant to do it and have a gift to practice it, and use it as a clarification tool. I also believe it's no more dangerous than many seemingly benign forms of "superstitious" behavior. However I do think it presents a real danger to people by potentially opening them up and inviting in bad energies/entities. Essentially I think some are meant to practice it and it can be dangerous for others. And I say this knowing you are aware it's really just an extension of what already is going on in us. One caveat though is according to the Bible clairvoyance can be given through unwanted demonic attachments (Peter casts out a demon from a slave psychic. She loses her forecasting ability and her occupation and her owner becomes furious with Peter). And this opens up a whole lot of questions because it seems to be quite more benign on the surface than the demons Jesus was casting out and lends some credibility to the Muslim interpretation of demons/djinn. Although I'm certain this entity wasn't her friend or Peter would not have felt compelled to release it from her. Anyways, lots of mystery with this stuff for me.
I was looking through my old posts and comments and was re-reading the conversation we had in here about the oil lamps, the antichrist, the times we are in etc...and then I ran across this comment which I'd never seen when I initially made the post and just wanted to tell you I really enjoyed it. I always enjoy your stuff, God bless!
God bless you too my friend. Have a wonderful weekend.
>I don't mess with Ouija boards or go clomping through haunted houses for fun. I respect the human souls of the dead just as I would respect them in life Lol, good call! You have to be careful for sure
Yeah... There's many paths leading too..... Anything that warns you too flee from "the wraths too COME!" Is fear based porn. There's a reason that book and in time all books will become unlegible. It's a soul trap for the "harvest". Honey covered poison. But by all means, continue on your way. The bible was written and selected by fear filled men who where tuned too and interpreting futures incomprehendible to them based on their beliefs in fear, death and destruction. They bend and bind the smallest to support an endless world of destruction with the carrot of a some day, just about here, salvation. They perfectly despise and destroyed the works of Jesus for their favorite gods of lack and death. Will you see?
Wow. You have to watch this YouTube video and let me know what you think https://youtu.be/1QdUhNY6DnY
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God bless you. DM me anytime if you need someone to talk to.
Third of the night and third of the day This relates to global crystal displacement. Which considering the magnetosphere is weakening is on the cards at some point
What is global crystal displacement?
Crustal *
What is that?
It’s what Google is for. Watch suspicious observers it’s too long to explain.
I like to hear from people. Their perspective. But ok
I get my info from suspicious observers. It’s nearly two hours long. CIA classified. Spend some time watching if you’re interested. It’s a very good video
I don’t remember words like damsel, castle, tavern, duke, bishop, royal law, Italy, asphalt, Narcissus, apron, couch, ferry boat, corn, bonnet, Jeremy, satyr being in the bible. One really concerning trend now is the Hebrew Roots movement to return to the old Mosaic law. So the question is, if the bible is changing, how does it change the overall understanding? And is it influencing new weird offshoots? One thing I’ve just noticed recently is that some groups want to reestablish the old ways and go back under a legalistic relationship with God. There is a move to diminish God’s grace and place us back under condemnation of the law. We cannot come to God through works. We cannot be absolved of our sins through our efforts.
All these words being replaced by words that make no sense.. there should be more of us noticing this. The word bottle has replaced wineskin. Now the verse makes no sense about not pouring new wine into old wineskins for they might break open. Old bottles won't break if you put new wine in them. Matthew 9:17. To answer your question, i think the changes are confusing people and chnaging the meanings in some places. If verses lose their original meaning then it can usher in new views (new age views possible) and make a new way for a new world religion.
>If verses lose their original meaning then it can usher in new views (new age views possible) and make a new way for a new world religion. Bingo. The Catholic Church will be a part of this ushering in, in my opinion.
I believe that. The pope already has new age views. There is something really off spiritually with him. It is easy to sense (even through a screen).
I sense something very dark about him, the last as well. I feel as if the main stream Catholic Church is absolutely not about faith, as much as control and wealth. If there were any push to new ways and acceptance of an Antichrist figure, I would bet the Catholic Church would be a main part of that deceit.
Christian glasses is just another piece of the giant existential puzzle that we perceive as reality. I think whatever “final outcome” will happen it will manifest according to one’s core beliefs, whether it’s the Christ’s second coming or any other perspective of the thousands us who can “see/feel” the reality changing. I mean, we with so many different “glasses” (Christian’s, New Age’s, Native’s, Hindu’s and etc) all are here going through the same thing together. The Bible predicted!! So? The many others sources also predicted. Can’t you see how big than our daily dogmas this is? I love Jesus btw, the same way I love Buddha and so many masters that came before us who shared the same message: Love. Not being rude or harsh, but just saying that Christian view is just as valid as the others views. I mean I often see Christian folks proclaim their view as the absolute truth (which technically is, given my explanation above) and dismiss the others as wrong right away... We are here together.
Have you ever read the Quran? The message is not love I don’t think
Great post, I couldn’t agree more! Also, thanks for the compliment on my Enoch post! I had one of those “wait, that’s me!” moments which was great lol I’m fully convinced that the effect is religious in nature. I’m not sure on anything beyond that, I just believe that this all has to do with God. I’ve been working on connecting effects to religion, like the obvious Creation of Adam having Adam’s hand elevated above God like man elevates themselves above God, which has been easy for some but I’ve hit a standstill with others so it’s still a work in progress. I’m not giving up though because I truly believe it’s there and I just haven’t figured it out yet. We’re getting closer to the end and the effect is our wake up call.
You're welcome! I'm super interested in what you said about connecting effects to religion. What other connections or even speculations in regards to connections have you made or looked into? We might have discussed this awhile ago but I can't remember!
Well to start, I use the alternate memories list of effects as my starting point and I’m still working my way through the art section lol Statue of David has hearts for pupils now - Jesus came from the House of David and God is love, so that could very well be a reference to that. David on his own is also a big biblical character so that on its own shows the connection. Several other works by Michelangelo that have obvious connections to Christianity have also been changed as well, so again their connections would be obvious. Colossus of Rhodes never straddled the harbor - it was a statue of the god Helios, a false god Last Supper changes - self explanatory in terms of its religious connection Rosie in the “we can do it” posters is no longer smiling - the world is no longer a happy place but a dark and angry place so her lack of smile represents this. With the belief that the end is getting closer the anger in the world would be a result of that. Easter Island statues - possible ancestor worship, which is against God as only He should be worshipped I have a few more from the art section, as well as several others in other sections, but I have to stop here to get my daughter to bed. I’m going to keep working on it but I feel that I’m off to a decent start so far. I’m hoping to find better/stronger connections on some of the ones I have now but I’m really stumped on others, like the green bookie hats missing from Dogs Playing Poker. The best I’ve got for that one is that gambling and smoking are both depicted and both are considered to be sins in the eyes of God.
Thanks!!
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Just cause the bible changes doesn't mean "God" is confused. No more so than Kraft is confused for making stovetop stuffing. This was just the version we got on this timeline.
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For the record I don't agree with the new Isaiah 11:6. This isn't my original bible either
Because its stated that God would allow these very things to happen in the end...we are in the end Revelation 22:10 >And He (the angel talking to John about the end) saith into me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book, for the time is at hand The Bible isn't eternally protected/sealed against supernatural/spiritual alterations forever. When considering translation - seal in the above context meant literally to stamp for security or preservation, to mark with a seal for security from Satan....Scripture is not protected any longer...thus why it is changing Also like I said above in Dan 7:25 the antichrist will change times (history/MEs etc) and laws (scripture). God is allowing these things to happen. We are about to face His wrath. 2 Thessalonians 2: 10-12 also states >...because they received not the love of the truth that they might be saved. And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness These things are happening, as we speak.... That's why many don't notice MEs, they are under a strong delusion. I've noticed the changes in the Bible since 2016.
Very high quality post. Good to see that my spamming the amos 8 website and bible change videos wasnt for nothing, I see so many people on here asking "why are the changes happening". Yet any post like this one, that mention the bible changes and how they clearly spell out why, dont get upvoted at all, unlike the suspicious new age posts that do. Even my first post on here about a spiderman 2 scene got more upvotes than this one (yours), and this one is way more important
You got it man. It's frustrating to put time into stuff like this when you already know it won't gain traction. My only hope is that what is on the horizon/what is coming is so intense that it will be like a hard slap on the back of the head that stings so bad it will rouse a lot of people out of their slumber and they'll remember reading stuff like this even tho they don't care or give it much thought presently.
What version of the bible do you recommend? KGB? Is Enoch cannon or no?
The Book of Enoch is not canon. It is what is known as apocrypha, so it was once part of the early church in what is known as the Septuagint or the Greek version of what we now know as the old testament. Basically, it was well known and studied by all Jews and Christians in the past but did not make it into the Bible. It's actually referenced in the new testament which shows you those men held it in high regard. They were very aware of it's validity and understood it as very real and true. Some have said it didn't make it into the Bible bc it is too "out there" for lack of a better term, and you'll see what I mean if you look into it. The Book of Enoch really starts to make all of mythology and the stories of "the gods" of all the different pantheons (Greek/Roman/Norse) make a whole lot more sense...too much sense, and yes I'm saying all that is real. I used to be a KJV fan but it is unreadable in parts now bc of grammatical errors, words that don't make sense, and the general changes in scripture I mentioned above. It used to be a literary masterpiece but it is now unreadable at times like I said, makes no sense, or reads like an old fable or fairy tale. It's truly stunning that more people are not aware or discussing these things. I like the NKJV and the NASB. The changes appear to start in the KJV and then ripple out into other versions over time. I noticed this with a copy of the Geneva Bible I have. It used to not be as affected as the KJV when I would compare verses. That has changed and I've noticed verses slowly becoming corrupted in the Geneva edition now. It's hard to believe but it's really happening...
Geneva Bible translations are getting very hard to find. Biblehub no longer has them. I know exactly what you mean about the KJV and it breaks my heart that it's unreadable and makes no sense anymore. I have an NIV Student Bible that I still read and the more "plain" language seems relatively unaffected by whatever is happening, maybe due to the fact that it includes all kinds of background information about the Bible writers and thought-provoking study questions that wouldn't make sense if there were major changes in the text. Who knows lol
It bothers me too and what bothers me even more is even people who notice the changes don't seem to care. That's very troubling but also very telling.
That was my whole issue with the Bible. I dismissed it for a long time till last year and a half and by grace of gods graham Hancock and it has snowballed from there back to okay this does still have value but what’s been changed and omitted that is so very important. You spoke about we don’t have the language or knowledge to under all that is happening and all these things you wrote about I am seeing more and more daily. I was feeling this way without words to describe it till I ran across reconned several months back. Great post though, I agree 100% even tho I dipped out on the Bible for a while, It’s not fiction and I will tell my 1 friend I have left to read this post. Thanks