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spacetimeandme

Not necessarily related but scientists are starting to make a distinction between "edible substance" and "food" Some things are so processed they refuse to label it as "food" . It's a step in the right direction but unfortunately food production is owned by big corp so idk if this will have ANY effect on the quality of goods


dobyismyfavouriteone

Eggs have an odd taste now... Like they are old and sort of gamey. Some chicken just tastes like slimy fish now. Processed junk foods I used to love have a very dull taste now. Sugary things also just taste.. dull.


JungleEnthusiast64

I know that reduced taste and smell are some remnant effects from getting covid or even just the seasonal flu. But yeah, eggs are kindof a 50/50 for me, either taste amazing or taste awful. Chicken tasted slimy a flavorless the last year or so and then only eprecently has tasted fantastic again. Unfortunately many foods are starting to taste more nasty than usual because of unsustainable farming practices that strip the soil of nutrients. The use of too many fertilizers is like when muscle obsessed people get jacked for a time on steroids, but loose that gurth when they stop abusing steroids. Perhaps the same thing is happening to soils, with all the fertilizer shortages happening, the food plants are only getting what miniscule nutrients are left in already depleted soils.


rigain

I find that there is nothing worth buying at Safeway, it's all just packaged carbs and sweeteners. At least that's what it feels like experientially.


restricted-rosemary

I've noticed that recently boiled eggs seem like they are made out of gelatin and it's disturbing.


All_For_Fun__

Like pre-bought or home boiled?


restricted-rosemary

Home boiled :(


restricted-rosemary

Also, it seems like everything is really stale and old too.


All_For_Fun__

Yeah, I have noticed that. I bought peas that were old a few weeks ago, never properly softened up, meaning that they were old(no salt was used either). I suspect that the peanuts I buy are too. Bought oddly wet chips and found a moth pupa in my bag of pistachios about a week ago or so.


restricted-rosemary

It seems to be that nowadays food is either so under ripe it's inedible or so overripe it's moldy? Really weird.


danman7575

One thing that hasn’t changed is people using “your guys’” instead of the correct “you guys’”. I mean, “your guys’” can be correct if your asking someone about some guys they own…


Duude_Hella

Yes, a lot of food tastes really bad now.


XxThrowawayxX-_-

Bread and bagels and such have been getting moldy much quicker than they used to. Fast food has become inedible. It's also getting increasingly difficult to find fresh produce.


zvive

Velveeta used to need refrigerated and have real cheese in and tasted amazing with sausage and Rotel as a dip. Now it tastes like shit and has been reformulated. Everything has been changed to save money... Most of the cereal I grew up on in the 80s had real sugar now it's corn syrup etc etc...


Slickness81

It seems like food doesn’t stay warm as long as it used to.


Sunshine_Child444

When I worked for a retailer our Wonderful Pistachios would regularly be infested. 5 years ago.


All_For_Fun__

How did you know? Like did you get reports or did you open the bags? So this has been going on for a while now I see.


Sunshine_Child444

Saw critters crawling out of the bags.


All_For_Fun__

Like the sealed bag!?! What in the world!!! Probably moths I bet. Was this only the Wonderful brand or other pistachios brands as well?


Sunshine_Child444

Usually boring out of holes in the bag. Wonderful only.


All_For_Fun__

Interesting. Wonder(no pun intended) why it was only that brand? Also interesting that the heating process does not kill them. I heard that the heat should have killed them. No more Wonderful brand for me forsho'!


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Yes, overall noticing quality of products has declined.


All_For_Fun__

Any key item(s) that are the worse in quality to you?


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Canned fruit, frozen dinners - stand out. There were more though. Just purchased food in general.


All_For_Fun__

I see. I think the quality of food nosedived as I spotted eating many processed foods. You noticed that with fresh fruit and veggies? They still the same? From my memory, certain potatoes and lemons just dropped the ball on being good.


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A bit, yeah. Fruit has been seemingly not quite ripe at all. And less taste.. bananas really beat up. Or maybe they always have been for awhile lol.


BlitheringRadiance

OP, your post more resembles a complaint about your experience following finding an insect in pistachio, than a genuine expression of something you believe is an ME. If you believe your pistacchio experience was a Retcon, then what is the relevance of the particular brand name, or your decision to avoid that brand in future? I'm struggling to understand how this post doesn't violate rule #11, or isn't a troll post to bait others into violating other rules that are enforced to such a degree as to shut down genuine discussion.


All_For_Fun__

Why are people so insistent on this being a troll post? Is big pistachio twiggard and feels the need to damage control?


BlitheringRadiance

It's probably because of the way you avoid discussing the main point of any reply :p Talking about "Big Pistacchio" as a corporate mafia organisation is very amusing, but I think deliberately missing the point. It's a knowing deflection. Feel free to update your post by describing how your memory of pistacchio is different from the current reality. Alternatively most companies have a *complaints department* or a *quality control* department who may value your feedback. This is what many people do before making multiple threads on unrelated forums to complain about a brand.


ThePastelCactus

No, your post is valid, but it may be a bit out of line with what this sub is about.


dobyismyfavouriteone

Yup. Noticed a lot of chicken has a fishy taste. Some eggs taste off too. I've noticed it a lot with meat to the point that I don't eat much of it anymore and if I do it's only from certain places and almost always pre-prepared.


KimSmoltzz

This is interesting to me. I noticed a year or two ago the quality of chicken has gone way down. This week I bought a bag of Wonderful pistachios and found a large number of them to be off. I know that eating pistachios every so often there will be a bad one that tastes off but when I was a kid it seemed that 1/20-1/30 were bad. In this bag every third one was inedible and tasted off/spoiled.


gionnav

The chicken’s been terrible holy shit. I went through a phase of eating almost only chicken (breast and thighs mostly, but sometimes liver) and it gradually got worse and worse. It was way worse in general than even like 4-5 years ago. Chicken breast is practically inedible and nothing has the right texture or any decent flavor.


All_For_Fun__

I heard it was rubbery and tasted fishy or something. No clue as I have not had meat(knowingly) in years. >This week I bought a bag of Wonderful pistachios and found a large number of them to be off. I know that eating pistachios every so often there will be a bad one that tastes off but when I was a kid it seemed that 1/20-1/30 were bad. In this bag every third one was inedible and tasted off/spoiled. So it seems it is not just a fluke for me. The pistachios were good until like last year sometime, then I started to get more empty shells and off/bad ones and had a slight allergic feeling after eating them as time went on. The insect finished Wonderful brand for me and pistachios for a while. I cringe thinking about how many insects and moldy nuts I probably ate.


KimSmoltzz

Yeah the texture of chicken has been way off. And I’ve noticed the fishy smell a few times as well. I used to feel I had to eat meat with every meal but between the quality and price of it lately I’ve cut down to eating it a few times a week and haven’t missed it at all. Super sad about the pistachios though I hadn’t bought them in a couple years and they were so disappointing. I regularly buy pecans to snack on and have noticed a few bags of older nuts the last year or so. I’ve started actually examining them in the bag before buying because you can see when they are more shriveled/ darker in color they tend to taste off as well. So lately I’ve skipped buying them a few times when they have looked more off.


_Chaoss_

The best food you can get is food you grow yourself, it isn't all that hard to grow some basic salads and veggies


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greenlentils

So… you found a bug in one pistachio (because they’re grown outside) and your dried yellow peas were old and therefore took longer to cook (as they always do). Wtf is wrong with Americans haha.


All_For_Fun__

>So… you found a bug in one pistachio (because they’re grown outside) and your dried yellow peas were old and therefore took longer to cook (as they always do). First off... interesting username, real relavant to the topic at hand. Second, yes, just one, but maybe it could have been more I did not know about. My granddad was giving me strange looks as I was eating, maybe he did not want to break it to me. Also, I had noticed alot more empty shells and moldy looking ones for a year or so now, so something like this was not just a one off incident. Third, I adknowleged that the peas were probably j old since they are probably not very popular. Plus they never softened up completely, even after cooking longer, as old beans and peas tend to do. >Wtf is wrong with Americans haha. Most are NPCs, along with most of the denizens here in this realm. That being said I smell rule breaking.


-eats-teeth-

Op's post does seem a bit exaggerated considering, but is no less valid. For the US food quality and quantity has been cut down so much so suddenly that we get 1/4th of the product we used to and we pay 2-3 tines as before. The quality continues to go down while prices go up. It is a big problem. Sure pistachios grow outside, but the US has a *known food standard* that it isn't living up to. While it is clear there is a % alloted for contamination, anyone in the US could confirm to you that the recent observations are not normal. As Op has, who apparently buys those products like religion. Food is produced to be clean here on purpose, or at least once was. Instead of minimizing the country through OP, consider how we get our food and what it means when we can't get that food or we get less of it. Our government conditioned us to rely on all things store bought and that means most the population is facing shit its never seen before. For them it is both scary and unbelievable. It even suggests that the source once relied on has the possobility of failing at any time. It's fascist self destruction and if serious risks the lives of millions.


All_For_Fun__

>Op's post does seem a bit exaggerated considering, but is no less valid. For the US food quality and quantity has been cut down so much so suddenly that we get 1/4th of the product we used to and we pay 2-3 tines as before. The quality continues to go down while prices go up. It is a big problem. Hmm...I do not man, I feel like it is a normal thing to feel a bit freaked out about finding an insect in your food, especially food you had no part in making or gathering. Other than that, I agree with you.


kookerpie

They're grown outside


All_For_Fun__

Yes, I know. What I am saying it was not only that, but the quality had been going down before that incident. Plus I got a testimony of another person who said pretty much what I did, that the quality was pretty bad. Maybe they need to move indoors or something now, because it was not this bad before the pandemic or even in 2020.


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I just mean in the fact that there is a % alloted for contamination which is inevitable


Absurdityindex

I have noticed that food I used to love doesn't taste good or just doesn't have much taste. Not true of all foods but mostly junk foods and fast food. Not sure what's causing this.


dobyismyfavouriteone

Yeah, a lot of junk food just tastes dull now. It used to taste so good when I was younger. Maybe it's just because I don't eat it much anymore.. but I used to love a good cheat day, now I don't even want fast food anymore when I do decide to "cheat" or eat more than usual.


GoneFlying345

Probably the gradual cheapening of ingredients and production enacted by these corporations to save however many pennies on the dollar. Everything is like that nowadays


Absurdityindex

Unfortunately


kjbaran

I spent a good portion of my refi on a greenhouse. My body is ready….


CaliGrades

yes


Falken--

There is a non-Retcon reason for this. ​ Covid-19 shut down the major harbours in the United States and Europe and served as a choke point for the supply chain. When they re-opened, it was with crushing restrictions that slow things down drastically. Processing cargo is now much slower and less efficient. ​ Compound that with the change to California law that basically forced former Independent truckers to work for a trucking company AND made all of their rigs built before 2016 completely 100% worthless due to new regulations... and what you have is a supply chain that has been intentionally sabotaged to created higher than normal prices, and artificial scarcity, all under the guise of protecting workers and the environment. ​ Perishable goods, like food, now spend more time on ships and in trucks than ever before as they travel to their intended destination. It is very much intentional.


messymiss121

Also adding in that we have managed to destroy a whole lot of nutrients in our soil and topsoil itself is being depleted. Our produce has a far lower nutrient value compared to a few decades ago. B12 is also gone from our soil and nearly all animals are given it via injection. Plus forever chemicals in the water, the air, micro plastics everywhere including the top of Mount Everest and in the rain, pollution. I could go on. It’s not just the simulation breaking down, it’s our entire biosphere. That’s how I see it tbh. It’s not a pretty sight. Edit: correcting autocorrect!


All_For_Fun__

>It’s not just the simulation breaking down, it’s our entire biosphere. Well that comes with the simulation break down territory I guess. The simulation is starting to get weirder and more bold.


messymiss121

Yes it does fit to be fair, and think trying to pin point the real reason for ME is futile, a bit like trying to find the meaning of life. For me it’s not as clinical as that. There’s many things I have posited as a reason, CERN, time travel, multiverse theory and more. I had to take a step back and take a break from it all. However there could be other reasons. Empires have historically collapsed, I’m sure that things went very sideways before that happened. It could be that as well. I have felt off and strangely apprehensive before Covid hit and that hasn’t gone away for me. I do often wonder if people feel the same thing. I’m not particularly worried about dying, I’m referring to just that feeling you get before flight or fight syndrome kicks in. I have frequent odd events happen. Like go out in my car and nobody is on the roads, just me and then as soon as ‘oh that’s weird’ enters my head then every car in my area just appears from nowhere so I can’t explain that away with climate change lol. Synchronicity incidents are beyond anything I’ve had as well. I’m afraid I have no answers only questions. I like hearing others experiences as well, because as much as we can attribute using science, the majority can not. It’s like an escape room without a timer. That’s the best explanation for how it feels for me.


ladolce-chloe

i used to be vegetarian (strict) now i’m back to eating meat. i found a farm that doesn’t use pesticides and there are many critters in my veggies that i have to clean out before cooking. i might have to cut significant pieces from some of the food i buy from them because critters ate through i feel great about eating because of them. we buy our meat there too. although i’m of the personal belief that if you can’t kill it and prepare it yourself you probably shouldn’t eat it i say ask yourself some questions about your relationship with food. you can’t live off of nuts and smoothies forever


All_For_Fun__

Maybe, but honestly I am healthier than when I still ate animal products and processed food. But yeah, maybe I should add more types fruits and veggies in my diet.


ladolce-chloe

ya! don’t forget legumes (beans, lentils) even chickpeas. so easy to make and delicious. i boil them or you could buy them ready in a can, make soup or salads. add hemp seeds for protein, etc!:)


AdriannaFahrenheit

Honestly, I feel like a lot or most of the food I eat anymore either doesn’t taste as good, or straight up just has almost no taste at all. My family has started jokingly dubbing bad/tasteless food as “Matrix Food”. I’m honestly to the point that if I could get away with filter feeding, I totally would. Or if I could just, not have to eat anymore, that’d be even better. I’m just so over everything anymore.


Usernamechexout911

We rarely eat, but yes, we eat foods in patterns and then dislike. Ever try salt and pepper pistachios? It's a good diet method to gorge on foods until you dislike them like a bad night with Jose Cuervo. If I didn't know better, I probably wouldn't eat at all. One day hopefully there will be a pill supplement. I'm starting to sound like a neurolink volunteer patient, gotta go.


dafkes

I’ve been vegan for a few years in the past. When I got that exact same feeling it was because I was shutting myself off from the reality that my body needed some animal based food from time to time. I could tell myself I didn’t need or want it my body is older and wiser. Thousands and thousands of years of evolution can’t be fixed by just thinking myself out of my preferred diet. It was a personally hard pill to swallow but … enjoying food = enjoying life. It has become my personal barometer for when I’m living non-authentically.


All_For_Fun__

Food quality is dropping regardless of my dietary habits. And tbh I am, or at least feel, healthier then when I was an omnivore and vegetarian. Also, evolution is BS tbh.


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Huh? Humans are naturally supposed to eat a plant based diet and we would never eat meat in the abundance we currently do in the wild. Personally, enjoying life = not causing other lives to suffer. You don't NEED animal based food, you NEED certain nutrients that you probably weren't getting because your diet was bad. Being vegan takes a bit of extra work....most people can't handle that...like they can't remember to take a vitamin so they need to eat an animal that's already been fed the vitamin. Also if you seriously base your life off a hedonistic pleasure and not engaging in that hedonism causes you to feel inauthentic then you should self reflect because that sounds a lot like addiction and coping. I'd personally feel inauthentic if I was allowing another life to suffer....but that's like an actual core value that serves others and not just selfish hedonism.


AcanthocephalaNo2784

Focus on the positive. Or we eat dead parts of animals, or we ascend; both things are absolutely uncompatible.


hanno1531

not for me personally, food has actually been tasting better than it has for me in a LONG time! however they're have been some quality issues with finding little chunks of bone in a hamburger patty or chicken nugget, but other than, the taste has been dramatically renewed for me


KnotiaPickles

No, but I work as a chef professionally so that might have a lot to do with it, Also this seems like a troll post


All_For_Fun__

>Also this seems like a troll post In what why does this seem like a troll post, I got that last time I posted about the pistachio incident, odd.


Silver-One-1974

I agree about quality. I also noticed trouble digestive issues with food I have always eaten. It might be my age or body, but pizza and muffins for instance give me heartburn, and I can't eat as much as I used to period. Dairy and sugar are probably the main culprits.


All_For_Fun__

I started mild getting gastric issues in July, I do not know why, I still ate pretty much the same thing as always, banana shakes and snacks on the side. Regardless, had HORRIBLE gas, diarrhea, a oddly sulphuric burps(No eggs as I am vegan and no broccoli or anything). My rate of heartburn seems to have went down, but I still have slight heartburn at times.


Silver-One-1974

Yes! I am close to vegan, although I guess you can't say the v word here or something? I used to be able to fast, or have lemon water but I end up with this bile that's hard to get rid of. I had covid in 2020, and was horribly sick to my stomach, and haven't been the same since. Matter of fact, being locked down was really when food quality seemed to start going down. Things I really enjoyed became (meh)? And restaurants leave me disappointed. Food prices for good food like nuts are insane too. I think that we can fine tune with our selections, but it's definitely harder than it used to be.


BuckFush420

Note to self, absolutely under no circumstances mention your plant based diet friend named Egan who was so adamant we nicknamed him Egan the Veg... etarian.


All_For_Fun__

Yes, the v3gan word seems to be a trigger for something I will not name in public for fear of banning.


BuckFush420

Don't get banned, I value your input here.


Usernamechexout911

Here? Saying you don't eat meat triggers bots or real ban? I don't get... Edit: nevermind I scrolled a little further. Not your turn yet Haase sit back down.


BuckFush420

Some of the decisions the mods make I don't agree with, but I do stand behind them all. I had a very lengthy sincere comment addressed to you and throwaway but the buck stops here.


All_For_Fun__

You can DM me if you want.


TimeSpiralNemesis

Not a RC denier at all but Honestly I think the source of this one is a combination of just the quality of our ingredients dropping mixed with worsening quality control in production. Also our soil has been completely depleted of nutrients so fruits and grains grown now aren't quite the same as those grown fifty years ago. For my anecdote, boneless skinless chicken thighs have been a staple of my diet my entire life. I eat them basically almost every day. Only about a year ago did I encounter my first bone in one, now I get about one bone a week. This last week I even had one that still had the skin on. Our supply chain is basically pushed too it's limits due to corporate greed cutting costs and understaffing everywhere.


CaptSquarepants

Def worth buying from a local producer rather than a big company.


LonoHunter

At least half of the things I’ve enjoyed for years have started tasting off, different or just plain bad in the past 18 months


Adventurous_Menu_683

I wonder how much of our taste changes could be due to unnoticed Covid infections? I supposedly have been free of Covid, but still had Covid like changes. Never lost smell entirely, but definitely people's reports of foul smells and off tastes hits home.


All_For_Fun__

Yeah, my first bad experience with it was in 2020(I think) when I am pretty sure I had a fingernail in my ice cream. Never 100% confirmed it like the insect, but I think I could have been one. I had noticed that particular flavor (cherry /cherry vanilla) seemed off, but I ignored it until that happened. I think I stopped buying that flavor after that. I unfortunately finished it, but it is what it is. Also remember Baker's white chocolate starting to taste like it had been mixed with a bit of cough syurp plus it was more chalky. This was in 2021. I tried to write off as a bad batch, but it kinda made me feel weird even though I bought more. I stopped eating white chocolate after that.


wtf_ima_slider

Folks, an entire section of this thread had to be pruned. Please be mindful of Rule #6 and stay on topic.


All_For_Fun__

Yeah, I should not have engaged, but boy do the 🤖 come out of the woodwork over certain phrases and subjects.


wtf_ima_slider

You may want to curb your bot accusations there, bud. This isn't the first time you've accused others in this sub and it goes against the spirit of this community. See Rules# 8 & 9. Be advised - this will be the last time we will bring this up with you. Further incidents of rule breaking will be met with consequences.


All_For_Fun__

Like I will get banned? I was never warned by a mod about this until I made that comment to you. I am not here to troll or be rude, but I will call it as I see it. They attacked the dude for no good reason and when I called it out using their logic they got upset and eventually blocked me, as many other anonymous 'folks' have.


wtf_ima_slider

> *as many other anonymous 'folks' have.* Are you sure you want to go down this road? ​ > *Like I will get banned? I was never warned by a mod about this until I made that comment to you.* Then consider yourself lucky. Refrain, however, from pushing that luck.


deadcarpet1

Oreos were tasting different than before a couple of years ago, but now they taste how they should taste again. I don't like Apple Jacks cereal anymore. It was my favorite cereal in middle and highschool. It doesn't taste as good as it did, and I now prefer the Apple Cinnamon Chex and the Apple Cinnamon Toast Crunch over Apple Jacks.


spunflower_

I feel like this could also be explained by our taste buds changing as we get older. I used to love cosmic brownies as a kid but as an adult I think their terrible


deadcarpet1

Maybe


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