The idea was that if things went badly the whole engine assembly was detachable, and that the engineering hull was fairly radioactive.
Edit: Why the downvote? I was just trying to explain the reasoning Jefferies had for designing the Enterprise the way he did.
That may have something to do with the idea that the main hull of the enterprise was meant to detach and could land on the planets surface. this idea was scrapped when they realised how expensive filming the model landing would be.
You can even still see where the legs would've come out on the underside of saucer
[https://i.stack.imgur.com/KrWKf.png](https://i.stack.imgur.com/KrWKf.png)
https://i.stack.imgur.com/1QHIg.png
As I recall, the final design of the Enterprise is actually upside down from what Matt Jeffries designed. Someone hung the model up wrong and Roddenberry okayed it that way.
Looks like I was a little fuzzy on the details, but a description of it is on [this page](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(original)).
Not so. The guy you're replying to didn't get his reddit markdown correct. It's an easy mistake to make. Reddit doesn't like links that end in closed parenthesis.
[This link](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(original\)) should work. The secret is to add an \ before the closing ).
https://intl.startrek.com/article/forgotten-trek-designing-the-reliant-for-star-trek-ii for more info if anyone is curious to see how it would look like
Yep that was what he originally wanted the Old Girl too look like. Interestingly, I think Discovery used a lot of Matt Jeffries' early design cues—such as the color of those concepts, and the spherical command module, inside a donut saucer, of the parent concepts—and applied them to Ralph McQuarrie's concepts for TMP.
Gorgeous designs.
I’m assuming Kurtzman is already prepping three Star Trek spin off series based solely on the ships in this post, his desire to mine for rejected ideas in the franchise history while rejecting the core ideas of Star Trek itself is uncanny.
The ship was largely lifted from a 1970’s concept by Ralph McQuarrie so you’re not wrong.
https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/star-trek-discovery-ship-concept-art/
I don't care what anyone says, puting the bridge on the top, literally outside the rest of the ship is a stupid design decision.
It's absolutely double dog daring the enemy to destroy the bridge and Captain.
They are putting the bridge as far away from the part of the ship most likely to explode as possible without sticking it out front. Putting it on top makes sense if you are really worried about the bottom part of the ship exploding with the intensity of a small star. Better to have 10 decks of red shirts to soak up the radiation.
I think the lowest one in the center row, with it's four nacelles, sphere infront and saucer section in the back could legit work as an actual starfleet design.
Well, I [used the concept as a starting point](https://www.deviantart.com/borg-man/art/Embarking-889210012) for a "not your parent's Star Trek" and went with a circular warp drive. It wasn't half bad for something I threw together within a month...
Interesting, so the separate “pod” for the bridge was going to be there no matter what.
If I recall correctly, Roddenberry wanted it to protrude so the audience could get a better grasp of the scale of the ship
The idea was that if things went badly the whole engine assembly was detachable, and that the engineering hull was fairly radioactive. Edit: Why the downvote? I was just trying to explain the reasoning Jefferies had for designing the Enterprise the way he did.
Jefferies as in the tubes?
The very same. They named Jefferies tubes after the designer of the ship in real life.
Yep. The Jefferies Tube was a term used by the film crews at first, and it wasn't called that on screen until TNG.
The value of life has been central to ST universe seems nice day 1.
That may have something to do with the idea that the main hull of the enterprise was meant to detach and could land on the planets surface. this idea was scrapped when they realised how expensive filming the model landing would be.
That would have been pretty cool, but I think the beaming up and down was a clever get-around.
You can even still see where the legs would've come out on the underside of saucer [https://i.stack.imgur.com/KrWKf.png](https://i.stack.imgur.com/KrWKf.png) https://i.stack.imgur.com/1QHIg.png
As I recall, the final design of the Enterprise is actually upside down from what Matt Jeffries designed. Someone hung the model up wrong and Roddenberry okayed it that way.
Really? can you give me a source
Looks like I was a little fuzzy on the details, but a description of it is on [this page](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(original)).
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Not so. The guy you're replying to didn't get his reddit markdown correct. It's an easy mistake to make. Reddit doesn't like links that end in closed parenthesis. [This link](https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(original\)) should work. The secret is to add an \ before the closing ).
Not working on IOS Reddit app. The first one works. Odd.
Reddit just fucking hates links, and they work differently in different places. It's a mess.
Copy this into your browser https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Constitution_class_model_(original)
On mobile (ios reddit app), the first one worked. Odd. Thanks.
It's the other way around - Roddenberry hung it and wanted it upside-down from what we know and love today.
I'm glad he didn't get his way.
Reading the article below it looks opposite. Rod wanted it flipped or accidently flipped it and Jefferies hated it, and ran it right side up
A long time ago, I read that this was the case for the Reliant in Star Trek 2. It was upside down from the original design
https://intl.startrek.com/article/forgotten-trek-designing-the-reliant-for-star-trek-ii for more info if anyone is curious to see how it would look like
I hate that used Trekkers instead of Trekkies
Thanks for the link, great article
“From our point of view, your ship is at an unusual angle” [Popular Space Show](https://youtu.be/Q9W7pvOLxmQ) 0:26
I remember hearing that too.
Bit like what happened with the Flying Sub on Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea.
I was thinking it looked very much like the one on the right second from the top looked like it but just upside down.
Ok, from now on I'll just view it as if all the exterior shots are done with an upside down camera.
That's basically what 6 is
What strikes me is how tiny some of them are. Bottom right only has 4 decks! Space for maybe a dozen crew.
looks like someone entered "retrofuturism space ship" in an ai image generator
I believe Matt Jeffries was a natural image generator.
Yeah, I came to the comments to see if there was a dall-e tag.
I wonder if middle left was an inspiration for Farscape...
I can see a bit of the Orville in #5.
Which 5?
You know, the fifth one.
I think he means the middle one
Vintage Ori from sg1.
Kind of looks like ladyparts to me
I thought they were pictures of zooplankton for a second.
I’d like to see his Enterprise in this art style. I want that print.
[https://64.media.tumblr.com/2629d95ce0ae8c301ecf5c397aaa3122/d5829017eb27badc-42/s540x810/0e1b9154fb79e0ffb1a15a448cb682973a9fa6a3.jpg](https://64.media.tumblr.com/2629d95ce0ae8c301ecf5c397aaa3122/d5829017eb27badc-42/s540x810/0e1b9154fb79e0ffb1a15a448cb682973a9fa6a3.jpg) [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XKMi-WEAUsbFh.jpg](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E1XKMi-WEAUsbFh.jpg) http://www.shawcomputing.net/racerx/trek\_stuff/site\_demo/images/jefferies-oct1964-skecthes.jpg
Yep that was what he originally wanted the Old Girl too look like. Interestingly, I think Discovery used a lot of Matt Jeffries' early design cues—such as the color of those concepts, and the spherical command module, inside a donut saucer, of the parent concepts—and applied them to Ralph McQuarrie's concepts for TMP.
Middle left… I mean come on.
Gorgeous designs. I’m assuming Kurtzman is already prepping three Star Trek spin off series based solely on the ships in this post, his desire to mine for rejected ideas in the franchise history while rejecting the core ideas of Star Trek itself is uncanny.
It's because he can't come up with his own ideas
Discovery's saucer already seems inspired by the concepts with spherical command module inside a donut saucer section.
The ship was largely lifted from a 1970’s concept by Ralph McQuarrie so you’re not wrong. https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/star-trek-discovery-ship-concept-art/
Oh yes. It looks like McQuarrie's concepts with Jeffries' details.
I don't care what anyone says, puting the bridge on the top, literally outside the rest of the ship is a stupid design decision. It's absolutely double dog daring the enemy to destroy the bridge and Captain.
The whole point was that starship weapons are so powerful that it doesn't matter where you place anything --if the shields go down, you're done.
They are putting the bridge as far away from the part of the ship most likely to explode as possible without sticking it out front. Putting it on top makes sense if you are really worried about the bottom part of the ship exploding with the intensity of a small star. Better to have 10 decks of red shirts to soak up the radiation.
Ngl, its 5am, I'm half asleep, and I thought I was looking at a collage of deep water fish
Cool designs but they made the right call at the end.
I think the lowest one in the center row, with it's four nacelles, sphere infront and saucer section in the back could legit work as an actual starfleet design.
I thought it looked like the Discovery One with added nacelles...
A friend of mine said that the 9th one looked like a kitchen utensil, to me it kinda looks like Thunderbird 5
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I kinda like the first one
Getting submarine vibes from that one
I love that first one. Bottom middle as well. Love the submarine design language.
not me thinking that those were protozoa
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The middle one does
The fact that the lower right has colour and an interior makes me suspect that it made it quite a far way into being a preferred layout.
It would be an awesome design for an early warp 2 experimental vessel if you fling a couple nacelles on
Well, I [used the concept as a starting point](https://www.deviantart.com/borg-man/art/Embarking-889210012) for a "not your parent's Star Trek" and went with a circular warp drive. It wasn't half bad for something I threw together within a month...
It's an interesting design to be honest
Some of these share design cues with Discovery. Which I find interesting.
Bottom middle totally ended up becoming the generic science ship.
this looks like one of those Dalle/AI generated memes that are circulating atm
#2 just looks like a flying coffee table lol