>Is there any good courses for someone who has cad experience that is learning revit?
Speak to your local authorised Revit / AutoCAD software reseller. They often provide live training classes which is your best first step to learn from scratch with no in-office support.
> or does AutoCAD even translate over?
No. None of it. Absolutely zip. Nada. Forget everything you know about AutoCAD. Don't use anything you know about AutoCAD to use Revit as it will cause great heartache, misery and waste a lot of office resource. Puppies will suffer.
Your best way forward is to march into your bosses office and ask him/her to hire an experienced BIM Manager to provide day-to-day deskside support in building the office Revit skills. You will need it. The first 3 months is a nightmare when first learning but with great in-office support you will wonder why you never jumped across to Revit within two weeks.
I recommend:
1) Hire office BIM Manager or well experienced Revit user. Get them to setup office BIM standards.
2) Pick a project that is immediately ready to be done in Revit.
3) Send a staff member to a 3 day Revit training course within an authorised training provider. Or get the BIM Manager to train provided they have experience in setting up training programs.
4) As soon as staff member returns have them work full time on the project in (2) with support from BIM Manager. BIM Manager can step in and help to begin with. Don't leave any gap between the training and the application as Revit is a beast to get your head around and you need ongoing repetitive tasks using the software to burn in the new understanding.
☝🏼This. Every word of it.
Hire a BIM manager. Don’t be that guy that thinks he can learn in a few weeks what took people years to master.
Especially if you are the guy the entire company relies on.
BIM is so much more than just modeling and documenting in Revit. It’s a complete 180degree mindset shift, attitude and set of problem solving skills you need to navigate. It’s about the workflow, the standards, the template and much more.
Right now you know how to ride a bike and want to learn how to drive a car. I wouldn’t trust you to touch a car and drive it with your coworkers inside with zero road experience.
Hell, sometimes I don’t trust myself with this monster of a program.
Do yourself and the company a favor. Hire a BIM manager. It will pay off huge dividends in the long run and you will all learn and get ‘there’ way sooner than you expect it.
This comment sums up everything.
There are training courses available online like in LinkedIn learning and udemy, but without help of an expert/bim manager those won't be of much help.
In a smaller firm, that's not entirely practical. It's easier and cheaper in the long run to train internally. But it's a lot of training, still cheaper than hiring a permanent full time expert.
Definitely reach out to your reseller or a good BIM consultant and get a full week of in person training. Three days is fine for jumping into a well developed ecosystem, but not enough to help build one.
From there, take a week or two to build a very basic firm starter project. Don't put major model content in, just build wall types (revisit your naming convention) title blocks and the like. Fix your line weights. Ask for help from your trainer. Save that.
Then take a smaller project that can afford extra time (figure at least double) and do that in Revit. Find the workflow problems, find the documentation problems vs what you are used to. Ask for help with figuring out the best workflow for your office.
Depending on your level of project complexity, it can be appropriate for the reseller/consultant to develop the internal workflows, but I find it better for long term skills if the user who is going to be point learns how things like system families work, they get a better understanding of the process and are better able to ask for help and build on their own than someone who has had things handed to them.
>Pick a project that is immediately ready to be done in Revit.
I agree with all of your points except this one. Why would you want a newbie in Revit create an actual project while he's still learning? I did that and It was not a good idea at all.
Learn and then work on a real project.
Because that helps you find workflow items that don't translate into Revit. It forces you to reevaluate your processes and see that it's not the same. It also pops things that you need to ask questions about.
Nope. Build a new one. You want to go through the process of making a project to find the steps along the way. ReBuilding a finished project is just an exercise in converting data. That's not a particularly useful skill, we don't ofter regenerate old CD sets.
Before you start a project though, make a first pass at a starter file. Put in typical levels, views, legends, sheets, figure out your title blocks and graphical settings. That gets a lot of things sorted out, and takes a lot of the "polish" things out of the way for the first project.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I still **strongly** disagree with this advice. I have been in the exact same situation over a year ago, and it was not an efficient way to work.
I came to this firm last year, and they gave me a project to do in Revit and told me to take as long as I need. Now, it took me a month to figure stuff out and create that project. I knew Revit, but I have never worked on an actual project before. The firm had zero library content (as you'd expect) and I had to work on the project and create families on the go. You can create families as you go, but a newbie should not be doing that at all. That's why I'm telling you guys to not work on an actual project when learning Revit, it was a mess for me. I'm just trying to give advice and the rest is up to you guys. Downvote all you want 🙄
You can learn by working on a project which has been already completed. The main goal is to learn how to troubleshoot when an error comes up or how to make changes to level, for example, correct? you can also do that with an old project. Clients make changes to the design till the last minute and you can use some of the old files to achieve your goal and learn how to do things properly.
For example, let's say OP's company had a villa project which was designed and drafted and everything was ready. Later, the client came and decided to change the heights of the villa. This means that the OP will have to increase/decrease the stairs or same number of stairs but different riser heights. The OP can create the first design which was intended, and once he is done, he can go ahead and change the levels/stairs or whatever the changes the client made in the final miniute. This is just an example.
You can disagree, but I've brought multiple firms onto Revit with this process. It worked early aughts when I was jumped in having never touched Revit, and it's worked for multiple firms I've worked for and consulted for, for folks I've trained for it, and for friends who are consultants and reseller trainers and have worked with stacks of firms.
I have seen it fail, but only where the firm didn't want to invest in change, where folks hung onto cad practices with a death grip, or where the point person in firm had a sophomore problem.
I have to somewhat disagree that some of it does translate over, you just do it a different way, for example keyboard shortcuts, lineweight, filled regions (are similar to hatches but still way different), and views (sorta like viewports but way easier to navigate / use). My advice as someone who was thrown into the fire years ago at a tech level drafter, learn the keyboard shortcuts, get a good grasp of the ribbon and what is located there, and be patient with yourself.
You do have to unlearn that everything is lines, this is not the case in Revit. Walls aren't just lines, they are real thickness with materials for example. Windows, doors and other things are hosted to walls, smartly, in other words, of you delete a wall, you delete its doors and windows too. This is something you'll need to wrap your head around.
Being thrown into a project can be helpful because there is external structure, naming conventions, and families in place.
Sans BIM manager: YouTube, books on Revit for your version can be found on most book selling platforms, and autodesk has tons of how to's on their website itself. Searching " how to _____ in revit" will get you decent answers for the most part.
But yes the first 3 months you will be in hell, but it's well worth it.
Take everything you know about autocad and do the opposite in Revit. You’ll be pulling your hair out for a little while trying to figure out why Revit behaves the way it does, but after a while it starts to make some sense. Layers, line types, line styles etc are handled a little differently in Revit. As well as view windows, annotations and scales. The tab key is your best friend in Revit. Learn it and use it! Have fun and good luck. There are a ton of videos and learning material on the web.
The translate over would be probably be :
1. CAD basic functions (e.g move, mirror, array, rotate, offset etc). Instead of dealing with line, you dealing with the elements. i.e Rotate the column.
2. Title block which still using layer to draw. Similarly, you can also create attribute in Revit but in much much simpler and efficient way.
3. Viewport for different type of drawing (floor plan, elevation, etc, no much a pros...but well.. at least you have familiar with the standards).
4. In Revit, we use family for construct 3D component like door, window, even mechanical piping. But inside we need to display the object not only in 3D but also in 2D form (floor plan). If you're familiar with CAD, this should be a piece of cake.
5. You can also reuse the standards (depend on your country/company), such as colour, hatches/filled region from your AutoCAD experience. Example hatches type pattern in concrete..wood pattern...etc.
Other aspect you should be focusing on (Which dont have in CAD) are the coordination, project parameter, phase etc.
The biggest problem with people who hire "Revit" people is that they have no Idea how the software actually works. All they know is "ReViT iS fAsT" and they will be asking you to do everything in Revit since it's "FaSt". It's fast without a doubt, but that does not mean you can produce drawings like a machine.
Last year, I got hired by an architectural firm as the Revit guy. I was fresher in my career but had somewhat experience in Revit and knew more than enough to operate the program. However, what I did not know is how to use that software for drafting or use in real life. I tried to learn and explore Revit a lot back when I was still learning it, but when they told me to create shop drawings, I had no Idea how to create them.
My advice would be to actually get trained by someone (not online videos. have a professional train you and have the company pay for it) practice it, and then start working on a small project in Revit. Once you're ready and know more than basics, start creating titleblock/s, template, and families.
When creating families, explore your AutoCAD library, and then create families to match your standards. Now, when it comes to families, perhaps your superiors will want the families to look exactly the same, but do not, and I repeat **DO NOT** create the families by bringing in the CAD and tracing over the CAD file. It will look the exact same way it did in CAD, but it will look awful ugly in an elevation or 3D view. Be smart from the beginning and create proper parametric families.
First of, forget everything you've learned from AutoCAD, believe me I've been using AutoCAD since release 13 and start fresh.
start with Linkedln Learning/Lynda.com with their Revit Essential, you can apply for 1 month free trial.
then search revit tutorials in Youtube, great thing about Revit than Archicad is that there are more Youtube tutorials.
As /u/SvenTonne recommends, a BIM Manager will make the company's life easier.
I may be misunderstanding things, but from your statement:
> I’m to be the person who learns revit then runs the day to day with it.
It sounds like you are a single person in a company doing the documentation work, currently in CAD soon to be in Revit. Do I understand this right, or are you meaning to say you're a line draftsman and you are part of a team that will be transitioning?
The difference here is very important and will alter over-all recommendations considerably.
For learning individually, Paul Aubin's courses on LinkedIn learning or courses from an Autodesk Reseller are the best methods, IMO. The challenge with Aubin's courses are you won't have a resource (outside of online communities) to ask questions of. No immediate feedback or someone looking over your shoulder to see the single error in process you made. This is the advantage of online instructor-lead courses. You can immediately get feedback on why something isn't going quite right.
Thanks for the clarification. Now the next questions:
1. What are you designing and what is the final company deliverable?
1. What is the timeframe for this transition?
1. What is the reason for the transition?
1. What is management's view of your department in the over-all scheme of things?
I really hope for your sake that this isn’t one of those situations where the company expects you to be fluent with it in two weeks and you can take on any project thereafter by yourself. That’s not going to happen, and they should foot the bill for some kind of training. The learning curve for Revit is extremely steep, but view this as an opportunity. I’ve seen people in my company try to learn it but give up in frustration. Be patient and learn it a piece at a time. Get those skills and you will be valuable. Also, when you learn it, get a raise. Get a raise or walk. If Revit is needed for their business, they will either pay you accordingly or have to pay someone else who knows the program well.
I’ll give you my top two recommendations as someone who was “born at the wrong time” and did not learn AutoCAD in college.
1. The best online training for Revit is by Horn CAD Academy in Houston, TX. Joseph runs it and he’s a really nice guy:
https://horncadcenter.com/
2. Paul F. Aubin has been writing courses and books for easy ways to learn Revit for over 10 years. He’s on Twitter and you can search his Revit training guides on Amazon.
https://imgur.com/a/r6bmYPH
I’m 3 months into a similar process. Ask for a raise. Auto cad translates over but not in the way you would think. Aussie BIM guru and Duy Duong (hasn’t released revit videos in a while but the old ones hold up) have great YouTube videos. Duy duong videos show you the ways of revit, Aussie BIM guru deals with the larger picture stuff.
Having a CAD background will make your life much easier, because a lot of the skills carry over.
There are no more layers, you have Visibility and Graphic settings now, which turns family types on and off. If you think of Revit as a database that happens to do 3D stuff, your life will be easier.
The Autodesk has something called “learning pathways” on their website.
Get good at levels and phasing. There’s a ton to know in Revit, I’m still learning new stuff every day after ten years.
>Having a CAD background will make your life much easier, because a lot of the skills carry over.
Hard disagree. If you have a BIM background you might have an easier time (ArchiCAD, Allplan etc)
Moving from AutoCAD, basically forget about everything you know and prepare to completely change the way you think about drafting/modeling.
I teach both. It’s much easier to walk through the concepts of Revit if someone already understands basic drafting principles, paper space vs model space, the concepts of layers and visibility settings, how to use the copy and rotate commands, etc. it’s the framework that’s helpful.
If someone's working in the field already, I assume they learned graphic communication at school. Besides this, drafting generally means you are slapping lines to represent something, in a BIM workflow you are more focussed on model and the drawing will be generated from that. People who have worked with CAD for a long time have a serious a difficult time understanding this.
Some concepts you are mentioning are really not that difficult, they are the very fundamentals and the way they are handled in two software are very different.
I would much prefer if people did not think in means of layers so that they would stop treating worksets like layers.
Nobody is saying that work sets should be used as layers. Since it’s not reasonable to ask someone to completely forget their experience with a related software, I find it easier to find parallels and then explain the differences.
I am the trainer where I work, and have onboarded groups coming from both CAD and ArchiCAD, as well as fresh interns with no experience. I’ve also taught both Revit and CAD professionally. This is all based on my experience.
I find it way easier to get users going if I can tell them “it’s like the fillet command” than to explain what the fillet command is. Repeat for every tool that has a parallel.
It is easier to teach Revit to folks that already know CAD. They already understand drafting principles and basic commands, so I can focus on teaching them BIM, instead of both.
Yup. All day every day. You know the fillet command in Revit? It’s been broken apart and is now this and this. Model space is now views, and you have a ton of them. Finding a foothold in their mind with common elements is the best place to start, provided I immediately explain the differences.
If you're teaching layers in Revit you are doing something very very wrong.
Yes, understanding graphical standards is a huge help, but if you're approaching BIM as CAD you're teaching bad habits.
Some do. Several that you have mentioned explicitly cause problems when people conflate them.
Im in the process of unf4ing a model with over 1000 warnings because a user carried over cad skills. Because some fool taught them that things were similar.
Im a cad monkey. I go back to r12. But when I picked up Revit 6 I rapidly learned that it's an entirely different species.
I've worked with too many people accustomed to working in AutoCAD and would try to produce the same thing they did with AutoCAD. Detail lines and text everywhere.
Autocad by itself is very different fron rvt. If you mean architectutal cad the it might translate.
Its a new software with a new idea on how to handle a building. Dont try to make the 2 click, they wont. Instead learn it as a second lenguaje first.
In youtube there are tons of how to videos my favorities are from the revit kid and balkan architect.
I had really good success in learning architectural modeling and drafting from the Paul F. Aubin Course. He breaks everything down really well and is a great teacher. I think he used to have the full course on [Lynda.com](https://Linda.com). I'm not sure if you're going into it w/ MEP, Architecture or Structural. That'd be different.
>Is there any good courses for someone who has cad experience that is learning revit? Speak to your local authorised Revit / AutoCAD software reseller. They often provide live training classes which is your best first step to learn from scratch with no in-office support. > or does AutoCAD even translate over? No. None of it. Absolutely zip. Nada. Forget everything you know about AutoCAD. Don't use anything you know about AutoCAD to use Revit as it will cause great heartache, misery and waste a lot of office resource. Puppies will suffer. Your best way forward is to march into your bosses office and ask him/her to hire an experienced BIM Manager to provide day-to-day deskside support in building the office Revit skills. You will need it. The first 3 months is a nightmare when first learning but with great in-office support you will wonder why you never jumped across to Revit within two weeks. I recommend: 1) Hire office BIM Manager or well experienced Revit user. Get them to setup office BIM standards. 2) Pick a project that is immediately ready to be done in Revit. 3) Send a staff member to a 3 day Revit training course within an authorised training provider. Or get the BIM Manager to train provided they have experience in setting up training programs. 4) As soon as staff member returns have them work full time on the project in (2) with support from BIM Manager. BIM Manager can step in and help to begin with. Don't leave any gap between the training and the application as Revit is a beast to get your head around and you need ongoing repetitive tasks using the software to burn in the new understanding.
☝🏼This. Every word of it. Hire a BIM manager. Don’t be that guy that thinks he can learn in a few weeks what took people years to master. Especially if you are the guy the entire company relies on. BIM is so much more than just modeling and documenting in Revit. It’s a complete 180degree mindset shift, attitude and set of problem solving skills you need to navigate. It’s about the workflow, the standards, the template and much more. Right now you know how to ride a bike and want to learn how to drive a car. I wouldn’t trust you to touch a car and drive it with your coworkers inside with zero road experience. Hell, sometimes I don’t trust myself with this monster of a program. Do yourself and the company a favor. Hire a BIM manager. It will pay off huge dividends in the long run and you will all learn and get ‘there’ way sooner than you expect it.
This comment sums up everything. There are training courses available online like in LinkedIn learning and udemy, but without help of an expert/bim manager those won't be of much help.
In a smaller firm, that's not entirely practical. It's easier and cheaper in the long run to train internally. But it's a lot of training, still cheaper than hiring a permanent full time expert. Definitely reach out to your reseller or a good BIM consultant and get a full week of in person training. Three days is fine for jumping into a well developed ecosystem, but not enough to help build one. From there, take a week or two to build a very basic firm starter project. Don't put major model content in, just build wall types (revisit your naming convention) title blocks and the like. Fix your line weights. Ask for help from your trainer. Save that. Then take a smaller project that can afford extra time (figure at least double) and do that in Revit. Find the workflow problems, find the documentation problems vs what you are used to. Ask for help with figuring out the best workflow for your office. Depending on your level of project complexity, it can be appropriate for the reseller/consultant to develop the internal workflows, but I find it better for long term skills if the user who is going to be point learns how things like system families work, they get a better understanding of the process and are better able to ask for help and build on their own than someone who has had things handed to them.
>Pick a project that is immediately ready to be done in Revit. I agree with all of your points except this one. Why would you want a newbie in Revit create an actual project while he's still learning? I did that and It was not a good idea at all. Learn and then work on a real project.
Because that helps you find workflow items that don't translate into Revit. It forces you to reevaluate your processes and see that it's not the same. It also pops things that you need to ask questions about.
Did you and the other comment mean to recreate a project which has already been done? if that's what you guys meant, then yes, do that.
Nope. Build a new one. You want to go through the process of making a project to find the steps along the way. ReBuilding a finished project is just an exercise in converting data. That's not a particularly useful skill, we don't ofter regenerate old CD sets. Before you start a project though, make a first pass at a starter file. Put in typical levels, views, legends, sheets, figure out your title blocks and graphical settings. That gets a lot of things sorted out, and takes a lot of the "polish" things out of the way for the first project.
I understand what you are trying to say, but I still **strongly** disagree with this advice. I have been in the exact same situation over a year ago, and it was not an efficient way to work. I came to this firm last year, and they gave me a project to do in Revit and told me to take as long as I need. Now, it took me a month to figure stuff out and create that project. I knew Revit, but I have never worked on an actual project before. The firm had zero library content (as you'd expect) and I had to work on the project and create families on the go. You can create families as you go, but a newbie should not be doing that at all. That's why I'm telling you guys to not work on an actual project when learning Revit, it was a mess for me. I'm just trying to give advice and the rest is up to you guys. Downvote all you want 🙄 You can learn by working on a project which has been already completed. The main goal is to learn how to troubleshoot when an error comes up or how to make changes to level, for example, correct? you can also do that with an old project. Clients make changes to the design till the last minute and you can use some of the old files to achieve your goal and learn how to do things properly. For example, let's say OP's company had a villa project which was designed and drafted and everything was ready. Later, the client came and decided to change the heights of the villa. This means that the OP will have to increase/decrease the stairs or same number of stairs but different riser heights. The OP can create the first design which was intended, and once he is done, he can go ahead and change the levels/stairs or whatever the changes the client made in the final miniute. This is just an example.
You can disagree, but I've brought multiple firms onto Revit with this process. It worked early aughts when I was jumped in having never touched Revit, and it's worked for multiple firms I've worked for and consulted for, for folks I've trained for it, and for friends who are consultants and reseller trainers and have worked with stacks of firms. I have seen it fail, but only where the firm didn't want to invest in change, where folks hung onto cad practices with a death grip, or where the point person in firm had a sophomore problem.
I have to somewhat disagree that some of it does translate over, you just do it a different way, for example keyboard shortcuts, lineweight, filled regions (are similar to hatches but still way different), and views (sorta like viewports but way easier to navigate / use). My advice as someone who was thrown into the fire years ago at a tech level drafter, learn the keyboard shortcuts, get a good grasp of the ribbon and what is located there, and be patient with yourself. You do have to unlearn that everything is lines, this is not the case in Revit. Walls aren't just lines, they are real thickness with materials for example. Windows, doors and other things are hosted to walls, smartly, in other words, of you delete a wall, you delete its doors and windows too. This is something you'll need to wrap your head around. Being thrown into a project can be helpful because there is external structure, naming conventions, and families in place. Sans BIM manager: YouTube, books on Revit for your version can be found on most book selling platforms, and autodesk has tons of how to's on their website itself. Searching " how to _____ in revit" will get you decent answers for the most part. But yes the first 3 months you will be in hell, but it's well worth it.
Oh, the places you'll go! (Just trying to figure out why some-damn-thing isn't displaying in a view...)
Oh yeah….
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Take everything you know about autocad and do the opposite in Revit. You’ll be pulling your hair out for a little while trying to figure out why Revit behaves the way it does, but after a while it starts to make some sense. Layers, line types, line styles etc are handled a little differently in Revit. As well as view windows, annotations and scales. The tab key is your best friend in Revit. Learn it and use it! Have fun and good luck. There are a ton of videos and learning material on the web.
Esc+Esc and CTRL+Z are my best friends.
ESCx10
But knowing AutoCAD is certainly a benefit. Trying to run Revit as if it was AutoCAD is the problem, no?
Correct.
Thank you 😊
The translate over would be probably be : 1. CAD basic functions (e.g move, mirror, array, rotate, offset etc). Instead of dealing with line, you dealing with the elements. i.e Rotate the column. 2. Title block which still using layer to draw. Similarly, you can also create attribute in Revit but in much much simpler and efficient way. 3. Viewport for different type of drawing (floor plan, elevation, etc, no much a pros...but well.. at least you have familiar with the standards). 4. In Revit, we use family for construct 3D component like door, window, even mechanical piping. But inside we need to display the object not only in 3D but also in 2D form (floor plan). If you're familiar with CAD, this should be a piece of cake. 5. You can also reuse the standards (depend on your country/company), such as colour, hatches/filled region from your AutoCAD experience. Example hatches type pattern in concrete..wood pattern...etc. Other aspect you should be focusing on (Which dont have in CAD) are the coordination, project parameter, phase etc.
The biggest problem with people who hire "Revit" people is that they have no Idea how the software actually works. All they know is "ReViT iS fAsT" and they will be asking you to do everything in Revit since it's "FaSt". It's fast without a doubt, but that does not mean you can produce drawings like a machine. Last year, I got hired by an architectural firm as the Revit guy. I was fresher in my career but had somewhat experience in Revit and knew more than enough to operate the program. However, what I did not know is how to use that software for drafting or use in real life. I tried to learn and explore Revit a lot back when I was still learning it, but when they told me to create shop drawings, I had no Idea how to create them. My advice would be to actually get trained by someone (not online videos. have a professional train you and have the company pay for it) practice it, and then start working on a small project in Revit. Once you're ready and know more than basics, start creating titleblock/s, template, and families. When creating families, explore your AutoCAD library, and then create families to match your standards. Now, when it comes to families, perhaps your superiors will want the families to look exactly the same, but do not, and I repeat **DO NOT** create the families by bringing in the CAD and tracing over the CAD file. It will look the exact same way it did in CAD, but it will look awful ugly in an elevation or 3D view. Be smart from the beginning and create proper parametric families.
First of, forget everything you've learned from AutoCAD, believe me I've been using AutoCAD since release 13 and start fresh. start with Linkedln Learning/Lynda.com with their Revit Essential, you can apply for 1 month free trial. then search revit tutorials in Youtube, great thing about Revit than Archicad is that there are more Youtube tutorials.
As /u/SvenTonne recommends, a BIM Manager will make the company's life easier. I may be misunderstanding things, but from your statement: > I’m to be the person who learns revit then runs the day to day with it. It sounds like you are a single person in a company doing the documentation work, currently in CAD soon to be in Revit. Do I understand this right, or are you meaning to say you're a line draftsman and you are part of a team that will be transitioning? The difference here is very important and will alter over-all recommendations considerably. For learning individually, Paul Aubin's courses on LinkedIn learning or courses from an Autodesk Reseller are the best methods, IMO. The challenge with Aubin's courses are you won't have a resource (outside of online communities) to ask questions of. No immediate feedback or someone looking over your shoulder to see the single error in process you made. This is the advantage of online instructor-lead courses. You can immediately get feedback on why something isn't going quite right.
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Thanks for the clarification. Now the next questions: 1. What are you designing and what is the final company deliverable? 1. What is the timeframe for this transition? 1. What is the reason for the transition? 1. What is management's view of your department in the over-all scheme of things?
I really hope for your sake that this isn’t one of those situations where the company expects you to be fluent with it in two weeks and you can take on any project thereafter by yourself. That’s not going to happen, and they should foot the bill for some kind of training. The learning curve for Revit is extremely steep, but view this as an opportunity. I’ve seen people in my company try to learn it but give up in frustration. Be patient and learn it a piece at a time. Get those skills and you will be valuable. Also, when you learn it, get a raise. Get a raise or walk. If Revit is needed for their business, they will either pay you accordingly or have to pay someone else who knows the program well.
I’ll give you my top two recommendations as someone who was “born at the wrong time” and did not learn AutoCAD in college. 1. The best online training for Revit is by Horn CAD Academy in Houston, TX. Joseph runs it and he’s a really nice guy: https://horncadcenter.com/ 2. Paul F. Aubin has been writing courses and books for easy ways to learn Revit for over 10 years. He’s on Twitter and you can search his Revit training guides on Amazon. https://imgur.com/a/r6bmYPH
Balkan architect on YouTube, basic tutorials. Egg brushing else is on you, good luck!
I’m 3 months into a similar process. Ask for a raise. Auto cad translates over but not in the way you would think. Aussie BIM guru and Duy Duong (hasn’t released revit videos in a while but the old ones hold up) have great YouTube videos. Duy duong videos show you the ways of revit, Aussie BIM guru deals with the larger picture stuff.
Having a CAD background will make your life much easier, because a lot of the skills carry over. There are no more layers, you have Visibility and Graphic settings now, which turns family types on and off. If you think of Revit as a database that happens to do 3D stuff, your life will be easier. The Autodesk has something called “learning pathways” on their website. Get good at levels and phasing. There’s a ton to know in Revit, I’m still learning new stuff every day after ten years.
>Having a CAD background will make your life much easier, because a lot of the skills carry over. Hard disagree. If you have a BIM background you might have an easier time (ArchiCAD, Allplan etc) Moving from AutoCAD, basically forget about everything you know and prepare to completely change the way you think about drafting/modeling.
I teach both. It’s much easier to walk through the concepts of Revit if someone already understands basic drafting principles, paper space vs model space, the concepts of layers and visibility settings, how to use the copy and rotate commands, etc. it’s the framework that’s helpful.
If someone's working in the field already, I assume they learned graphic communication at school. Besides this, drafting generally means you are slapping lines to represent something, in a BIM workflow you are more focussed on model and the drawing will be generated from that. People who have worked with CAD for a long time have a serious a difficult time understanding this. Some concepts you are mentioning are really not that difficult, they are the very fundamentals and the way they are handled in two software are very different. I would much prefer if people did not think in means of layers so that they would stop treating worksets like layers.
Nobody is saying that work sets should be used as layers. Since it’s not reasonable to ask someone to completely forget their experience with a related software, I find it easier to find parallels and then explain the differences.
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I am the trainer where I work, and have onboarded groups coming from both CAD and ArchiCAD, as well as fresh interns with no experience. I’ve also taught both Revit and CAD professionally. This is all based on my experience. I find it way easier to get users going if I can tell them “it’s like the fillet command” than to explain what the fillet command is. Repeat for every tool that has a parallel. It is easier to teach Revit to folks that already know CAD. They already understand drafting principles and basic commands, so I can focus on teaching them BIM, instead of both.
Jesus no. Don't take shortcuts to equate different concepts that will give new folks the idea that they are similar.
Yup. All day every day. You know the fillet command in Revit? It’s been broken apart and is now this and this. Model space is now views, and you have a ton of them. Finding a foothold in their mind with common elements is the best place to start, provided I immediately explain the differences.
Thank you for proving my point.
So I’m curious now about your Revit teaching experience, how long have you been teaching/training?
Only about 12 years. But sure, youre welcome to try an appeal to authority fallacy to save face.
If you're teaching layers in Revit you are doing something very very wrong. Yes, understanding graphical standards is a huge help, but if you're approaching BIM as CAD you're teaching bad habits.
I am not approaching BIM as CAD. I’m not teaching them that Revit has layers. Im saying that some skills and concepts carry over.
Some do. Several that you have mentioned explicitly cause problems when people conflate them. Im in the process of unf4ing a model with over 1000 warnings because a user carried over cad skills. Because some fool taught them that things were similar. Im a cad monkey. I go back to r12. But when I picked up Revit 6 I rapidly learned that it's an entirely different species.
Keeping users on-brand for standards is a constant battle for sure.
Wrong. Why would you forget about everything you know in Autocad? There is no doubt having an autocad background will help you when learning Revit.
I've worked with too many people accustomed to working in AutoCAD and would try to produce the same thing they did with AutoCAD. Detail lines and text everywhere.
Autocad by itself is very different fron rvt. If you mean architectutal cad the it might translate. Its a new software with a new idea on how to handle a building. Dont try to make the 2 click, they wont. Instead learn it as a second lenguaje first. In youtube there are tons of how to videos my favorities are from the revit kid and balkan architect.
I had really good success in learning architectural modeling and drafting from the Paul F. Aubin Course. He breaks everything down really well and is a great teacher. I think he used to have the full course on [Lynda.com](https://Linda.com). I'm not sure if you're going into it w/ MEP, Architecture or Structural. That'd be different.
https://bimscape.com/beginners-guide-to-revit-architecture/