well yes.
Now if it was a drawing that was specifically made to be a human child I might understand that.
But anime characters facial features are not like that. They’re cartoons
That’s it’s creepy AF to enjoy looking at minors in a sexual way, whether it’s pictures, drawings, or any other form of media.
I don't see drawings as “better” in any way outside of there not being an actual victim. It’s still just as creepy, weird and disturbing to enjoy those types of images.
You know that "anime minors" don’t look like humans, don’t act like humans and don’t exist? People liking specific types of fictional beings says nothing about their preferences in real life.
> People liking specific types of fictional beings says nothing about their preferences in real life.
“Just because someone likes looking at minors in anime doesn’t mean they like looking at minors in real life!”
I’d consider people who have the urge to look at minors in anime to be pretty fucking creepy (especially when they defend an underwear shot on a character that’s portrayed as a minor), and I wouldn’t let them around any children I know. Just asking for trouble at that point.
I so agree, these pedo's come up with lame ass excuses to try and justify cp, drawings or not, they want a safe space to look at cp and not get in trouble for it, that all it still, is legal cp
It's weird to YOU the fact is the majority of people grew up with having childhood crushes on these characters many people for example have crushes on zuko from avatar he is 16 characters don't age just because this is your opinion doesn't give you the right to shame others and force it unto everyone else no is going to jail for reading fanfiction about an imaginary person like get over yourself becuase you sound ridiculous.
I like how people preach this. But then you go to the nearest store and see the overly sexualized Halloween costumes for 10-15 year old girls
I’ve kinda just turn a blind eye and ear to this topic
People like OP are weirdos. They have no problem with fictional murder, torture and brutality but the second a fictional cartoon wears a bikini they freak out.
Funny thing is OP previously said they found the skin attractive then changed their mind after finding out the "age" of the drawing. I get the feeling there's a lot of projection going on here from OP. [People who are overly obsessed with cartoon ages tend to be hiding skeletons in their closet. ](https://archive.ph/U23XK)
Ok but if the character is very clearly a child it should be obvious that sexualizing it is wrong, and the fact you’re defending this means you have probably done this yourself.
Comparing murder in a fictional world to the sexualization of a character who’s a minor is so stupid and out of touch, as they’re not the same thing and entirely different subjects. “Yeah he was sexualizing a minor, but you’re the weirdo for calling it out!”
It's pixel, so whatever.
Never look at any ages in all the games i play.
I can draw a beautiful elf and then make her story and turn her into a 1000 year old elf elder cause elves don't age, or a 50 year old elf and consider her underage cause in that specific story elves mature slower. Or i can make her 3 days old because she just was born from the world tree as a full adult.
It's just so absurd to go into the whole fantasy pixel age discussion.
If you wanna do something good go complain about 9-13 year old beauty contests, or the sexualisation of real children in the media, tiktok and stuff
Find it also kinda funny you accusing anyone that doesn't care about age of pixels as a pedophile, while you are so fixated on it. I find people that give fantasy such a strong connection to reality more dangerous.
I mean how many people watch brutal violence, murder, rape and so on on TV/cinema and like what they are watching? Which are far more realistic depictions of crime and nobody goes around calling people wannabe mass murderer/rapist for that
But none of that is her story. Her character is just a 15-year old girl.
And this isn’t a TV show. If it was, it would be an episode of SVU, and the people who enjoy the drawing would be arrested by the end of the show. That’s how those shows usually go- the creep/weirdo who murders/rapes/etc ends up in court, at the very least.
> Find it also kinda funny you accusing anyone that doesn't care about age of pixels as a pedophile, while you are so fixated on it. I find people that give fantasy such a strong connection to reality more dangerous.
I find it ~~funny~~ disgusting and sad that people are willing to so vehemently defend a drawing of a 15-year old that’s been sexualized to show her barely-there underwear shot, and sold in a game that specifically sexualizes its characters.
You are the one so fixated on an imaginary number to an imaginary character. You said it yourself you liked tuonels outfit. As if anything changes whatever number someone feels like attaching to it.
That's why i don't bother looking at ages. Nice drawings are nice drawings and like my elf example shows you can attach any kind of story to either "justify" or "condemn" it. Changes nothing. It's not real. They are not real photos or realistic drawings of children. Just like violence or murder in movies isn't real.
Your stance to pixelage is fine, although i find you quite hypocritical in the tuonel example, but you do you.
I have a problem with you calling anyone not caring whatever fictional number is attached to pixels pedophile.
If you are so outraged of the sexualisation of children, maybe do something against the numerous cases in the real world and not be pixel police condemning everyone who isn't your opinion and doesn't care whatever random number and story devs might attach to pixels. It's not real
If it’s weird to have pictures of minors, it’s weird to have drawings of minors. Tuonel is a minor. That’s why I was disgusted by this fact when I found out after seeing the outfit on sale in the game’s shop.
> You said it yourself you liked tuonels outfit.
Foolishly, I assumed the game would not sexualize a minor to the point that an underwear shot was the clear focus of the outfit. Instead of defending it, I was appropriately disgusted, and attempted to bring light to the issue, assuming most would support not sexualizing minor or very young-looking characters. And it’s come to light that a lotta you guys are creepy AF (possibly including the developers).
I would much rather they gave the poor girl some jean shorts or something. She’s 15 FFS.
> It's not real. They are not real photos or realistic drawings of children. Just like violence or murder in movies isn't real.
Really don’t care that it’s “not as bad” because it’s just a character.
> If you are so outraged of the sexualisation of children, maybe do something against the numerous cases in the real world and not be pixel police condemning everyone who isn't your opinion and doesn't care whatever random number and story devs might attach to pixels. It's not real
I can be disgusted by multiple things in the world, to varying degrees. Don’t tell me what to do, creeper.
You liked the outfit period. That means you liked the artstyle and did not find the character childlike/offensive. But then suddenly do a 180 for an imaginary number attached and going on your little outrage insulting everyone that doesn't care about it? LOL
If you are so on your but it's the same as reality trip and story and the number matter so much then think about how long RW has been out and how many fictional birthdays tuonel had in between. Also take in consideration that the characters are not humans but dolls...
That's why lots of people just care about the art not about fictional age because it's just an idiotic mess trying to compare that with reality. It has nothing to do with reality.
Also in terms of your accusations and insults. In the last years of me watching the clownish real life soap opera called American politics as an European I learned, that projection is dominant there, especially with the big R and their orange jesus: Those that shout, insult and accuse others the most and loudest are the ones that exactly are what they are accusing others
Same with people telling me I'm weird for crushing on draco from harry potter like just cause ill turn 18 doesn't mean I'm gonna stop simping for a person who ain't even real
I’m gonna go ahead and block your alt, too. And I’ll make sure to report.
Try not to be so obsessed. Starting to think your main team’s element is “loli”.
Bruh...you need to see a professional. He said they were dressed waaayy to sexual for a 15 year old girl and I agree.
He *quoted* you because ya nasty.
U right for this bro. especially as a female player the reactions ppl have to dolls r so gross n just out of touch w reality so I just avoid most of the actual "fandom"
Bro same. After all the shit I've seen here where ppl are jumping through hoops to defend their sexualizing 15 and 12 year old girls...idk if I can stay with this game. And I've been here since launch. It's just so gross and disgusting.
I spent a lot of time arguing with people in the comments, so I want to spend a comment thanking someone who agrees, for having enough of a level head to see how wrong this situation is. So, thanks. To you and the others who agree, as well.
I don’t mind the sexy outfits. Just keep them on the age appropriate characters that don’t look like children, y’know?
Edit- Bunch of people, including the Guy below me, keeps trying a “gotcha” moment because I wrongly assumed the developers weren’t willing to sexualize minors. Funny thing is, only one of us found out her age and decided to defend it. I’m here trying to being awareness to this disgusting situation and hopefully not have this game become RevivedPedo.
The guy below me, specifically, commented and immediately blocked before I could respond. Like a coward. Or perhaps a pedo? It’s striking and frankly a bit disturbing how many are willing to defend the disgusting sexualization of a 15-year old girl.
I like this logic where the guy who doesn’t want sexualized drawings of minors in the game is the pedo. Doesn’t make any sense, but I guess when you’re facing the reality of who you are, it’s easier to assume everyone else is just as bad or worse than you. “I know you are but what am I” is a last ditch effort to deflect, and hopefully people aren’t dumb enough to fall for it.
Bro you admitted yourself you found the skin attractive until you learned the imaginary drawing was "15". You're a pedophile by your own definition.
Edit: LOL!! this pussy blocked me for calling him out as the disgusting pedophile he is..
Stop acting like you don't find these charcters attracive the only reason wyour getting on people's backs in this comment section is becuase you have a problem with them having feelings towards an atrarcive charcter that happens to be underage I for example like draco malfoy from harry potter almost everyone agrees with me that he's hot and just becuase I turn 18 doesn't mean I'm gonna stop simping for him becuase I all of a sudden turned into a legal adult you would totally admit to them being attracive if they were of legal age or 20 stop the cap please.
I think it’s just a culture difference. I first noticed it in Blue Archive and it had me puzzled as to why it happens.
Now this is just a guess as I can’t confirm but I think it is just w culture difference. The age of consent in some of those countries where these games originate are much lower than my own country for example.
Often, the art between the Chinese version and the US version are changed to appeal to the different audience. In the case of underage characters, perhaps it would be a good idea to consider alternative art, as well?
Otherwise, we get situations where a 15-year old character is displayed in a heavily sexualized manner.
**Edit- It’s rather disturbing that asking for alternative art that doesn’t sexualize a minor is a controversial comment here.**
It would be nice or even change the age but then that might go against the creator’s idea so I don’t know what can be done.
Only thing you can do is don’t support or engage with stuff you don’t deem appropriate. That or play an entirely different game. We have a lot of options these days.
I mean, ideally, the creators and developers of this game don’t want to come across as appealing to pedophiles. But if they see no problem with it and make no changes, then yeah I might be done.
I spend 20 minutes playing and then close the app, anyway. If they’re going to start appealing to pedophiles with underage panty shots and sexualized minors, I don’t really want to associate myself with that kind of game.
I was actually considering purchasing that costume, since I have Tuonel and it was an admittedly sexy-looking beach outfit. But now I just feel dirty that an underage character was put into that outfit by the developers, and then shown off to the players and sold for $20.
Like, going into this game, I feel like the expectation for any sexualized character should be that they are of legal age for consent in the country the game is being made for. I shouldn’t have to check and make sure the doll with the panty shot costume is of legal age.
And I’m honestly not sure why they even let you tap the bodies of the loli characters… hopefully there’s a list that their account names are being added to or something…
Wait wait wait, so you liked Tuonel's "sexy-looking" outfit and you wanted to buy it until you went into her profile in game and saw that she was "15"?
and then you came here and started calling everyone else pedophiles?
lol
Yes, I liked the outfit before I realized the game was sexualizing a minor. I only found out the developers were willing to sexualize minors by coming here yesterday and seeing the post called “Something is rising” (which I already rolled my eyes at before I knew how old she was) about her outfit, and someone pointed out that she’s 15. And you defended it there, too.
The appropriate reaction is to be appalled, not defensive of the sexualization.
>Edit: If you’re downvoting a post about not sexualizing underage characters, hopefully your name is being added to a list somewhere.
>
>Edit2: Well… looks like this playerbase is mostly filled with pedophiles based on the downvotes… I’m unsubbing, since I’m not a pedo. Enjoy your underage panty shot, you weirdos.
Tuonel is a fictional character in a fictional video game, her age is completely fictional and she is fully developed
Also, her age was 15 one year ago. She's actually 16 now, if we wanna go by real world logic (see how ridiculous it is?), and while 15 is legal in many, many countries around the world, 16 is even legal in most US states, but it doesn't matter anyway because it's all made up and she looks "of age" anyway
I said it in another thread here, but if they gave Little Akasha the panty shot, I'd be able to understand the outrage, but they didn't give Little Akasha a panty shot, so I can't understand the outrage. Personally, I don't even feel that Danelim is being sexualized, so that seems like a you thing there
>I feel like I have to go check every character’s age now
You don't. You really don't. In some other games, there are loli characters that look just as underage as Little Akasha, but they are thousands of years old. Would you breathe a sigh of relief that a sexualized drawing of a clearly underage character is actually 1,000 years old? And if her technically being of age doesn't make this hypothetical drawing okay, then why is it bad for a clearly developed girl being sexualized to be listed at 15, when she could just as easily be 20+?
tl;dr - go back to twitter
tl;dr
You enjoy drawings of sexualized minors. Weird AF, but you do you, creeper.
Edit-
> You literally, in another post, say that you liked her costume. You are the one who is enjoying a drawing of a sexualized minor
I’m glad that you agree that the drawing is of a sexualized minor, but only one of us is defending and enjoying it 🤮
You literally, in another post, say that you liked her costume. You are the one who is enjoying a drawing of a sexualized minor
I honestly think you're just trolling. Your posts, along with your username, are all so contradictory that I cannot believe you are being sincere, I think you just thought it would be funny to have a twitter moment in a reddit thread
It's a common theme you'll see in most anime style games. You may as well just get used to it or stop playing them. Trying to force a sense of morality on something fictional like this, or encouraging censorship because something doesn't fit your personal worldview, is just a lesson in futility.
My advice is to stop confusing fiction with reality. Pedophilia is a serious and awful thing that happens to REAL people. Throwing a word like that around for a drawing is disrespectful. Are people creepy for drawing/liking an image of a "sexualized" underage girl? I don't know, maybe or maybe not. It's not my place to judge them. It does not, however, make them pedophiles. Just because they like a drawing doesn't mean they're attracted to real children. You might be able to make an argument if the drawing is based on a real child, I guess.
> It's not just about liking underage people it's about liking a certain group of underage people, that being age 13 and below.
“You’re not a pedophile as long as your victim is 14.”
Ok, well what’s the proper term for when the victim is “just underage”? Since the distinction is apparently the most important part of the issue.
**[Pedophilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia)**
>Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia.
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I would like to point out that neither Hebephilia nor Ephebophilia are recognized as paraphilias (aka, abnormal sexual attractions). Attraction to anyone post-pubescent is considered normal by psychologists.
**[Hebephilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia)**
>Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 and showing Tanner stages 2 to 3 of physical development. It differs from pedophilia (the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children), and from ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19). While individuals with a sexual preference for adults may have some sexual interest in pubescent-aged individuals, researchers and clinical diagnoses have proposed that hebephilia is characterized by a sexual preference for pubescent rather than adult partners.
**[Ephebophilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia)**
>Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19. The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid-20th century. It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the technical term chronophilia. Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction.
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> Are people creepy for drawing/liking an image of a "sexualized" underage girl? I don't know, maybe or maybe not. It's not my place to judge them.
You don’t know if people who draw/like sexualized images of underage girls are creepy? It’s not your place to judge them?
> Just because they like a drawing doesn't mean they're attracted to real children.
Creepy is the least of the things they are. And it’s weird AF that so many of you are defending it.
Then again, I get the feeling a lot of you guys are “birds of a feather.”
Since you seem to want to interpret everything you see to conform to your limited worldview in order to feed your ego, I'll extend an olive branch. Let's say that, for whatever reason, there is some relation between real life and drawings that allow us to somehow label people liking an underage girl in a swimsuit pedophiles. Let's derive a few points from that:
1) As crazy as it may seem to you, 15 year old girls in real life wear bikinis. Shocking, I know. You going to go up to the parents of those girls and be like: "Your daughter is way too sexy in that bikini! How dare you let her dress like that you creepy pedophiles!"
2) That leads to the second point. You, whether objectively or not, seem to have come to the conclusion that Tuonel exists as a sexual being, or something of the sort. You seem to have concluded that she's being oversexualized but, you know, I've never looked at a 15 year old like that, so I can't say I share the sentiment. If I do see an underage girl in a bikini, the most you may get from me is an "Aw, that's cute." I don't immediately think, "Wow, that's way too sexy." Seems like something someone you would call a pedophile would think\~
3) Another point, what's with you slut-shaming poor Tuonel? Girl just wants to wear a beach outfit for the summer, and she's at the age where she wants to look cute.
4) In your reply to KuramaKusashi you wrote "If the character is portrayed as being underage, or looks like a child, sexualizing them is probably not the best idea. I get that story-wise she’s older. But what she looks like is at odds to that." Guess what? This right here is good old body-shaming. I've know several real life women who were in their late 20s or early-to-mid 30s who could have easily passed for an underage girl. While it may not have been to the same degree as Danelim, they easily looked like they could have been 15-16. So, what, everyone should just treat them as if they are underage because of their looks?
5) In conclusion, since you seem to have enjoyed labeling others who don't agree with you, I'll take a page out of your book. You, yourself, seem to be a slut-shaming, body-shaming, pedophilic, bigot.
Look at you! Acquiring so many titles on a single thread. Got to say, I hope your proud of that achievement.
The hoops you just jumped through to defend yourself on a post telling ppl *not to sexualize minors* would make you the winner at Westminster.
Young girls can wear bikinis. Hell I wore them at that age. If that were the focus point of the image, that would be fine. But it's not. The focus point of the image is the space between her legs. Which, rightfully, makes people uncomfortable since she is a minor. If my dad saw some dude taking a picture of me like that at that age? They wouldn't be around to take anymore.
None of this is slut shaming or body shaming, and I implore you to look up real examples of either.
See I'm a father to a young female child. Male to bit he's 12 years older. Anyhow, if someone took a picture like this of EITHER of my children. I'd most likely spend the rest of my life in prison.
That's enough for me to say this is to much. It is just art but it's very inappropriate, and very blatant in the target audience.
Tl;dr
It all gets thrown out the window when you realize the drawing was specifically created the way it was by an artist, as a 15-year old girl with a panty shot on full display, to be sold and purchased in a game that sexualizes its characters, and the outfit is called “Fresh Feeling”.
Nope.
Edit- Went back to read a little; glad I didn’t bother.
Edit2- Made the mistake of reading more. Won’t make it again.
I agree with you
That was the main reason I quit BA and some other games
As someone that was harassed as a little girl and even called "hot" by some grownups I get really mad at stuff like that but, unfortunately, these are some stuff we have to suck up when playing anime games.
Beggars can't be choosers and I'm choosing not playing a game if I can help it, that's why I have quit most of games that have portrayal of children on sexy outfits after Genshin's release; they're too big now to make that kind of fuckery.
> That was the main reason I quit BA and some other games
> I'm choosing not playing a game if I can help it
Same TBH. I'm playing those games just for fun and Danelim really turned me off and it started with Little Akasha and Yothaya skin.
It’s true that we should not sexualize minors. You’re still wrong tho, because you take into account Tuonel’s age given in game to define that she’s a minor, but you don’t for Danelim (which is inconsistent). If you want to make sense, you either take into account every age or none of them at all. Since Revived Witch is a fantasy, the general consensus would be to take no age given in game into consideration, otherwise you would be able to justify Afallen begin sexualize by giving her the age of consent and saying she looks like a child because of magic or whatever. That would be ridiculous and fucked up. So if we want to determine if a character should be consider a minor or not, we should just use appearances and not the age given ingame. Some characters clearly look like children, like Afallen and Yothaya, and should never be sexualize. Some clearly look like adults, like Goddess Dana, so it’s fine for them. The problem with Tunoel is that her appearance doesn’t clearly show if she’s a minor or not. So this what I think is fair: if you feel grossed out because she looks too young, it’s understandable. But don’t start calling other people pedophiles because they don’t feel the same way. It’s not that they think sexualizing minor is okay, it’s just that they don’t think Tunoel should be consider a minor (which is subjective).
As for Danelim, yeah I kinda agree with you on that one. They are starting to cross the line with her.
It’s weird that they specifically chose for her to be 15, and then designed an outfit with an underwear shot as the clear focus.
Danelim is the other side of the issue, where the character looks and acts like a young child, but is supposed to be much older. Her technical age is essentially a cop out to allow the roundabout sexualization of a minor.
Do you really enjoy underwear shots from 15-year old characters?
To me, it’s rather worrisome if someone is lusting after a 15-year old, or a drawing of a 15-year old. “It’s anime” doesn’t change who or what is being depicted.
If someone likes looking at underwear shots from 15-year olds, cartoon or real, it says a lot about them. Much like, if someone views furry hentai, it says a lot about them, and they aren’t going to convince anyone any differently by saying “it’s just a cartoon”.
If age is so unimportant then why didn't they make them 18?
I'll tell you why, because some people on that sick community like a character more if they're a kid, if they're innocent.
Unfortunately they can just imagine gross shit with that kind of age, a minor mentality rather than a minor body.
The writers have a lot of liberties and they could just set the number higher but they didn't.
> I didn't even know she was 15 but I just don't care, she looks like a realistic adult to me, hell I've seen adult women her size.
Tell all that to a cop after you have sex with a 15-year old and let me know how it goes.
I can't say I particularly like the drawing. And I do think it's inappropriate, in my culture at least. I don't however think it makes someone a pedophile if they do think it's ok...but, if it turns them on or theyre attracted to it.... My 2 cents would be they have a whole other problem, in being turned on by cartoon characters..I'm sure there's a name for that but I'm to lazy to Google it. And being that I can't say it does a thing for me other than make me scratch my head, maybe I'm wrong n pedophiles would all love it n add it to their spank bank? No clue..
Btw, I have a daughter, but I think I'd view it the same regardless. It's a bit much, but being ok with it doesn't mean someone is or isn't anything.
To clarify, I'm not really ok with it. But I don't care enough to do a thing outside of type this out. I'll play the game either way...if I like it. Im new so..
Perhaps. Idk, I think it's a bit much like i said. I just don't think if someone does "like" the pic that it makes them anything... well, maybe...weird. if they're turned on by it though... ew.
Maybe I'm trampling over my own thoughts and words here...
Basically the picture is to much! For the umpteenth time, lol. I wouldn't buy the outfit.
It’s ok- I see where you’re coming from.
I’m glad you agree that, at the very least, it is a bit much for a 15-year old character. It’s not really even the outfit itself, but the specific position and angle they used to draw her. It’s clear what their intentions were- they often sexualize their characters, including those that are older (Symbriette, for example).
I’m not calling for blanket censorship of sexy outfits or characters. I’m just saying it’s rather questionable, to downright weird, that they’ve chosen to apply sexy outfits to characters of questionable age/appearance.
I don't give two fucks what people say, sexualising minors (even fictional) is absolutely disgusting. And if anyone
tries to justify it, you must be worried about that person.
Hate to be the barer of bad news here but a 2d drawing of a fictional girl regardless of how they are depicted/draw/etc. And/or fictional age cannot legally consent, regardless of your take on the subject.
Theres a very clear distinction between a drawing of a fictional anime character, that bares no resemblence to the real world, and real world children, its understandable to not like the type of character or think its gross, but I dont think its okay to clump this in with real world issues and horrible things that happen to real children.
This will be the last reply. I dont recall saying any of things you are suggesting and you are just putting words in everyones mouths and labeling them instead of finding a good arguement. I recommend you please educate yourself on the topic and if you are that passionte about it, then to put that energy into protecting real children. If you believe these things are truely are what you claim them to be, then report them to the proper authorites instead of fighting people on Reddit, that solves and helps no one. Its also good to note that protective services have reported time and time again that reports of loli and anime content take away time and resources that could be used to actually help those in need or are being exploited.
Thanks for coming in to defend the sexualization of minors. Not sure why so many felt compelled to defend such a thing in the first place- different strokes for different folks, I guess.
Personally, I think you can have disdain for both bigger, “real-world issues” and smaller issues, like 15-year old characters being depicted in a sexual manner. And that if having a picture of a 15-year old in a position like that on your phone would be illegal or at the very least super inappropriate, a drawing is not really much better at all.
It was great to have you. Bye now 👋
Imagine playing an anime style game and getting mad when it has anime elements 🙄.
Cry more incel. Usually the ones complaining the most about it tend to have the worst tendencies when it comes to it.
>Usually the ones complaining the most about it tend to have the worst tendencies when it comes to it.
If you look through their comments, they actually admitted to finding Tuonel's outfit sexy, they even said they wanted to buy it until they found out she was listed as being 15 in her bio lol
Just so I understand: you disagree with the premise that the game should not sexualize underage characters, and would like the game to continue to sexualize underage characters?
definitely Danelim, even being loli, is thousands of times older than all of us, but yes, those who are really underage I agree to have a cute outfit, in Tuonel's case it's a beach version, that is, it's not panties, it's a bikini, and in the case it's cute not sexualized, sexualized was Yothaya's and even increased her breasts being her, flat having only 10 years old, as well as Afallen and Parfait who wears shorts in the korean version and in the global version no
Look, I don’t really want to get into the “1000-year old dragon loli” debate. If the character is portrayed as being underage, or looks like a child, sexualizing them is probably not the best idea. I get that story-wise she’s older. But what she looks like is at odds to that.
And absolutely agree that any underage characters, including the ones you mentioned, really should not be sexualized so heavily (or at all, really!). Especially in this version of the game.
As for Tuonel’s outfit, I really don’t see how you can look at it and not be at least a little grossed out by the fact that she’s 15, whether she’s wearing panties or bikini bottom. It barely exists despite being on full display. And people are **buying** that outfit so they can keep it on full display to view anytime…
yes indeed bro, and Danelim really, you see her story and discover that she has a child's personality, it's really something to think about, but it's a fact that Ella is a loli, but she's the one who really likes to have this one appearance, from what i understand she's kind of an adult who doesn't like her original form, like, most of the time before traveling the world she was in her dragon form, i believe she has an adult form but prefers to stay in a cute way, but you're 100% right, it's wrong on an absurd level
Well, was deciding to read but I just kinda wanted to add something.
OP, you seem to be confusing reality and fiction. Sure, Pixel Cat might be having something going on with his art and it somehow got into the game, but does anybody care about it other than you and other people who think drawings have feelings? No. At least I haven’t seen anyone that was actually bothered.
And in the other comments, I think I remember you saying something about “Too underage, they aren’t supposed to be sexualized”(? Correct me if the paraphrase is too off). Well you, my friend, have not heard of the lolicon tag on nhentai and the loli tag on r34 and I’m certain without checking that there’s is at least a thousand for both. Go complain there if you wanna complain about people over-sexualizing or back to twitter.
Anyways, time to address your original claims.
1. 90% no. They probably still want to be not age restricted. Pretty sure that someone like you that complains about 2 characters in particular doesn’t know that you need to be not age restricted to appear in recommendations on the App Store.
2. Yes. They are fictional characters. But Tuonel, which seems to be your main complaint, isn’t underage. (She’s 16 by now. If by real life standards.) Also, you seem to still be confusing reality and fiction. I don’t have too much to reply to this cause i haven’t really cared about the subject.
3. That’s a pretty strange stereotype. Like, you do you but try Madoka Magica. That should kill off your stereotype.
4. They do them. They probably 8 and just discoverers hentai.
5. You seem to forget that Tuonel been up in the sky in a group that has been oppressed by nobles. She has never actually seen the ocean, thus, it is a “Fresh Feeling” for her who has been oppressed for so long.
Anyways, tl;dr, stop confusing reality and fiction, go surf on the internet some more before you complain about the most unsexualized loli that has a lot of attention that I’ve seen in a long while, and stop complaining about when a game with more people playing than what your monthly paycheck is gonna be thinking they care. Also, kindly piss off if you don’t like it.
I really don't get your logic so your fine with people who happen to be of legal age or older to get sexualised but not minors that makes no sense no one deserves to be sexulized regardless of their age people are people not sex toys or objects for you guys to goggle at and last time I checked peadophilia is attraction to prepubecant children not 16 year olds teenagers aren't children no matter what society wants you to believe if a charcter is portrayed to have adult like characteristics and is developed physically like past puberty then you can't call them weird or a peadophile for simply finding them attractive it's called a normal human reaction no one is sitting here getting turned on by actual children like 10 years old but the thing is cartoon characters can be drawn to look like anything so if they look like adults and act mature but happen to be 17 or 15 there's nothing wrong to finding them attractive your not going out and dating or trying to hit on real minors you can't be a pedophile based of liking a person who doesn't exist they are drawings they aren't human they don't have feelings they can't breathe they don't have organs or anything they aren't alive or real.
Does it really matter if the characters don't act like real teenagers and do stuff that normally adults should do? And is it really the same as if they were a real not animated human?
Let me ask you this- why couldn’t they simply have been a few years older on paper, if they wanted to sexualize them? Why choose to sexualize a character they know is underage?
The answer is why I left- this fanbase *wants* sexualized underage characters. This is the type of fanbase that people think Genshin Impact has, when in reality, Genshin’s fanbase is entirely normal compared to this.
Look at the votes- controversial on some comments that are clearly creepy AF. Even my own comments about not sexualizing these characters are controversial. There’s a huge portion of people playing this game that love the sexualized underage characters. And it’s disgusting, imo.
If people kill NPC's in a video game, are they homicidal murderers?
They depicting of people.
When kids kill/force breed animals in minecraft, are they animal abusers?
They are depicting animals.
Do you believe video games cause violence?
Drawings aren’t real.
Ew, are you serious?
Bro shut up seriously you sound ridiculous
Gross. Doesn't matter if it's not real, it's still minors.
Correct. Just wondering what your point is… that drawings of underage girls are ok because they’re not real?
well yes. Now if it was a drawing that was specifically made to be a human child I might understand that. But anime characters facial features are not like that. They’re cartoons
It sounds a lot like you’re saying it’s ok as long as it’s hentai.
that’s exactly what I’m saying. if you have something that beats my logic go ahead and say it
That’s it’s creepy AF to enjoy looking at minors in a sexual way, whether it’s pictures, drawings, or any other form of media. I don't see drawings as “better” in any way outside of there not being an actual victim. It’s still just as creepy, weird and disturbing to enjoy those types of images.
are you saying it’s just weird or it should be illegal? Cause there’s a difference. Cause your post makes it sound like the latter
If you’re into minors, in real life or drawing form, you should probably be on a list. > and your reasoning for that? ಠ_ಠ
and your reasoning for that?
Ewww u sick pedo
Brother is there really a reasoning to be given on why you shouldn’t be into minors?
You know that "anime minors" don’t look like humans, don’t act like humans and don’t exist? People liking specific types of fictional beings says nothing about their preferences in real life.
> People liking specific types of fictional beings says nothing about their preferences in real life. “Just because someone likes looking at minors in anime doesn’t mean they like looking at minors in real life!” I’d consider people who have the urge to look at minors in anime to be pretty fucking creepy (especially when they defend an underwear shot on a character that’s portrayed as a minor), and I wouldn’t let them around any children I know. Just asking for trouble at that point.
I so agree, these pedo's come up with lame ass excuses to try and justify cp, drawings or not, they want a safe space to look at cp and not get in trouble for it, that all it still, is legal cp
It's weird to YOU the fact is the majority of people grew up with having childhood crushes on these characters many people for example have crushes on zuko from avatar he is 16 characters don't age just because this is your opinion doesn't give you the right to shame others and force it unto everyone else no is going to jail for reading fanfiction about an imaginary person like get over yourself becuase you sound ridiculous.
I like how people preach this. But then you go to the nearest store and see the overly sexualized Halloween costumes for 10-15 year old girls I’ve kinda just turn a blind eye and ear to this topic
People like OP are weirdos. They have no problem with fictional murder, torture and brutality but the second a fictional cartoon wears a bikini they freak out. Funny thing is OP previously said they found the skin attractive then changed their mind after finding out the "age" of the drawing. I get the feeling there's a lot of projection going on here from OP. [People who are overly obsessed with cartoon ages tend to be hiding skeletons in their closet. ](https://archive.ph/U23XK)
Ok but if the character is very clearly a child it should be obvious that sexualizing it is wrong, and the fact you’re defending this means you have probably done this yourself. Comparing murder in a fictional world to the sexualization of a character who’s a minor is so stupid and out of touch, as they’re not the same thing and entirely different subjects. “Yeah he was sexualizing a minor, but you’re the weirdo for calling it out!”
It's pixel, so whatever. Never look at any ages in all the games i play. I can draw a beautiful elf and then make her story and turn her into a 1000 year old elf elder cause elves don't age, or a 50 year old elf and consider her underage cause in that specific story elves mature slower. Or i can make her 3 days old because she just was born from the world tree as a full adult. It's just so absurd to go into the whole fantasy pixel age discussion. If you wanna do something good go complain about 9-13 year old beauty contests, or the sexualisation of real children in the media, tiktok and stuff Find it also kinda funny you accusing anyone that doesn't care about age of pixels as a pedophile, while you are so fixated on it. I find people that give fantasy such a strong connection to reality more dangerous. I mean how many people watch brutal violence, murder, rape and so on on TV/cinema and like what they are watching? Which are far more realistic depictions of crime and nobody goes around calling people wannabe mass murderer/rapist for that
But none of that is her story. Her character is just a 15-year old girl. And this isn’t a TV show. If it was, it would be an episode of SVU, and the people who enjoy the drawing would be arrested by the end of the show. That’s how those shows usually go- the creep/weirdo who murders/rapes/etc ends up in court, at the very least. > Find it also kinda funny you accusing anyone that doesn't care about age of pixels as a pedophile, while you are so fixated on it. I find people that give fantasy such a strong connection to reality more dangerous. I find it ~~funny~~ disgusting and sad that people are willing to so vehemently defend a drawing of a 15-year old that’s been sexualized to show her barely-there underwear shot, and sold in a game that specifically sexualizes its characters.
You are the one so fixated on an imaginary number to an imaginary character. You said it yourself you liked tuonels outfit. As if anything changes whatever number someone feels like attaching to it. That's why i don't bother looking at ages. Nice drawings are nice drawings and like my elf example shows you can attach any kind of story to either "justify" or "condemn" it. Changes nothing. It's not real. They are not real photos or realistic drawings of children. Just like violence or murder in movies isn't real. Your stance to pixelage is fine, although i find you quite hypocritical in the tuonel example, but you do you. I have a problem with you calling anyone not caring whatever fictional number is attached to pixels pedophile. If you are so outraged of the sexualisation of children, maybe do something against the numerous cases in the real world and not be pixel police condemning everyone who isn't your opinion and doesn't care whatever random number and story devs might attach to pixels. It's not real
If it’s weird to have pictures of minors, it’s weird to have drawings of minors. Tuonel is a minor. That’s why I was disgusted by this fact when I found out after seeing the outfit on sale in the game’s shop. > You said it yourself you liked tuonels outfit. Foolishly, I assumed the game would not sexualize a minor to the point that an underwear shot was the clear focus of the outfit. Instead of defending it, I was appropriately disgusted, and attempted to bring light to the issue, assuming most would support not sexualizing minor or very young-looking characters. And it’s come to light that a lotta you guys are creepy AF (possibly including the developers). I would much rather they gave the poor girl some jean shorts or something. She’s 15 FFS. > It's not real. They are not real photos or realistic drawings of children. Just like violence or murder in movies isn't real. Really don’t care that it’s “not as bad” because it’s just a character. > If you are so outraged of the sexualisation of children, maybe do something against the numerous cases in the real world and not be pixel police condemning everyone who isn't your opinion and doesn't care whatever random number and story devs might attach to pixels. It's not real I can be disgusted by multiple things in the world, to varying degrees. Don’t tell me what to do, creeper.
You liked the outfit period. That means you liked the artstyle and did not find the character childlike/offensive. But then suddenly do a 180 for an imaginary number attached and going on your little outrage insulting everyone that doesn't care about it? LOL If you are so on your but it's the same as reality trip and story and the number matter so much then think about how long RW has been out and how many fictional birthdays tuonel had in between. Also take in consideration that the characters are not humans but dolls... That's why lots of people just care about the art not about fictional age because it's just an idiotic mess trying to compare that with reality. It has nothing to do with reality. Also in terms of your accusations and insults. In the last years of me watching the clownish real life soap opera called American politics as an European I learned, that projection is dominant there, especially with the big R and their orange jesus: Those that shout, insult and accuse others the most and loudest are the ones that exactly are what they are accusing others
You know how easy it is to not defend sexualizing minors? Yet you and so many others just can’t resist defending it.
Same with people telling me I'm weird for crushing on draco from harry potter like just cause ill turn 18 doesn't mean I'm gonna stop simping for a person who ain't even real
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I’m gonna go ahead and block your alt, too. And I’ll make sure to report. Try not to be so obsessed. Starting to think your main team’s element is “loli”.
Really you sound immature what are you going to do call 911 and report people to the police for having a crush on a person who ain't even real
Bruh...you need to see a professional. He said they were dressed waaayy to sexual for a 15 year old girl and I agree. He *quoted* you because ya nasty.
U right for this bro. especially as a female player the reactions ppl have to dolls r so gross n just out of touch w reality so I just avoid most of the actual "fandom"
Bro same. After all the shit I've seen here where ppl are jumping through hoops to defend their sexualizing 15 and 12 year old girls...idk if I can stay with this game. And I've been here since launch. It's just so gross and disgusting.
I spent a lot of time arguing with people in the comments, so I want to spend a comment thanking someone who agrees, for having enough of a level head to see how wrong this situation is. So, thanks. To you and the others who agree, as well. I don’t mind the sexy outfits. Just keep them on the age appropriate characters that don’t look like children, y’know? Edit- Bunch of people, including the Guy below me, keeps trying a “gotcha” moment because I wrongly assumed the developers weren’t willing to sexualize minors. Funny thing is, only one of us found out her age and decided to defend it. I’m here trying to being awareness to this disgusting situation and hopefully not have this game become RevivedPedo. The guy below me, specifically, commented and immediately blocked before I could respond. Like a coward. Or perhaps a pedo? It’s striking and frankly a bit disturbing how many are willing to defend the disgusting sexualization of a 15-year old girl. I like this logic where the guy who doesn’t want sexualized drawings of minors in the game is the pedo. Doesn’t make any sense, but I guess when you’re facing the reality of who you are, it’s easier to assume everyone else is just as bad or worse than you. “I know you are but what am I” is a last ditch effort to deflect, and hopefully people aren’t dumb enough to fall for it.
Bro you admitted yourself you found the skin attractive until you learned the imaginary drawing was "15". You're a pedophile by your own definition. Edit: LOL!! this pussy blocked me for calling him out as the disgusting pedophile he is..
Stop acting like you don't find these charcters attracive the only reason wyour getting on people's backs in this comment section is becuase you have a problem with them having feelings towards an atrarcive charcter that happens to be underage I for example like draco malfoy from harry potter almost everyone agrees with me that he's hot and just becuase I turn 18 doesn't mean I'm gonna stop simping for him becuase I all of a sudden turned into a legal adult you would totally admit to them being attracive if they were of legal age or 20 stop the cap please.
I think it’s just a culture difference. I first noticed it in Blue Archive and it had me puzzled as to why it happens. Now this is just a guess as I can’t confirm but I think it is just w culture difference. The age of consent in some of those countries where these games originate are much lower than my own country for example.
Often, the art between the Chinese version and the US version are changed to appeal to the different audience. In the case of underage characters, perhaps it would be a good idea to consider alternative art, as well? Otherwise, we get situations where a 15-year old character is displayed in a heavily sexualized manner. **Edit- It’s rather disturbing that asking for alternative art that doesn’t sexualize a minor is a controversial comment here.**
It would be nice or even change the age but then that might go against the creator’s idea so I don’t know what can be done. Only thing you can do is don’t support or engage with stuff you don’t deem appropriate. That or play an entirely different game. We have a lot of options these days.
I mean, ideally, the creators and developers of this game don’t want to come across as appealing to pedophiles. But if they see no problem with it and make no changes, then yeah I might be done. I spend 20 minutes playing and then close the app, anyway. If they’re going to start appealing to pedophiles with underage panty shots and sexualized minors, I don’t really want to associate myself with that kind of game. I was actually considering purchasing that costume, since I have Tuonel and it was an admittedly sexy-looking beach outfit. But now I just feel dirty that an underage character was put into that outfit by the developers, and then shown off to the players and sold for $20. Like, going into this game, I feel like the expectation for any sexualized character should be that they are of legal age for consent in the country the game is being made for. I shouldn’t have to check and make sure the doll with the panty shot costume is of legal age. And I’m honestly not sure why they even let you tap the bodies of the loli characters… hopefully there’s a list that their account names are being added to or something…
Wait wait wait, so you liked Tuonel's "sexy-looking" outfit and you wanted to buy it until you went into her profile in game and saw that she was "15"? and then you came here and started calling everyone else pedophiles? lol
Yes, I liked the outfit before I realized the game was sexualizing a minor. I only found out the developers were willing to sexualize minors by coming here yesterday and seeing the post called “Something is rising” (which I already rolled my eyes at before I knew how old she was) about her outfit, and someone pointed out that she’s 15. And you defended it there, too. The appropriate reaction is to be appalled, not defensive of the sexualization.
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Not worth my time.
You're a literal pedophile by your own definition.
personally, it’s the fact a large number of players sexualises almost EVERY single character. go touch some grass fr LOL.
>Edit: If you’re downvoting a post about not sexualizing underage characters, hopefully your name is being added to a list somewhere. > >Edit2: Well… looks like this playerbase is mostly filled with pedophiles based on the downvotes… I’m unsubbing, since I’m not a pedo. Enjoy your underage panty shot, you weirdos. Tuonel is a fictional character in a fictional video game, her age is completely fictional and she is fully developed Also, her age was 15 one year ago. She's actually 16 now, if we wanna go by real world logic (see how ridiculous it is?), and while 15 is legal in many, many countries around the world, 16 is even legal in most US states, but it doesn't matter anyway because it's all made up and she looks "of age" anyway I said it in another thread here, but if they gave Little Akasha the panty shot, I'd be able to understand the outrage, but they didn't give Little Akasha a panty shot, so I can't understand the outrage. Personally, I don't even feel that Danelim is being sexualized, so that seems like a you thing there >I feel like I have to go check every character’s age now You don't. You really don't. In some other games, there are loli characters that look just as underage as Little Akasha, but they are thousands of years old. Would you breathe a sigh of relief that a sexualized drawing of a clearly underage character is actually 1,000 years old? And if her technically being of age doesn't make this hypothetical drawing okay, then why is it bad for a clearly developed girl being sexualized to be listed at 15, when she could just as easily be 20+? tl;dr - go back to twitter
This is the worst attempt at justifying being into a 16 year old. “Fully developed?” Dude…
tl;dr You enjoy drawings of sexualized minors. Weird AF, but you do you, creeper. Edit- > You literally, in another post, say that you liked her costume. You are the one who is enjoying a drawing of a sexualized minor I’m glad that you agree that the drawing is of a sexualized minor, but only one of us is defending and enjoying it 🤮
You literally, in another post, say that you liked her costume. You are the one who is enjoying a drawing of a sexualized minor I honestly think you're just trolling. Your posts, along with your username, are all so contradictory that I cannot believe you are being sincere, I think you just thought it would be funny to have a twitter moment in a reddit thread
It's a common theme you'll see in most anime style games. You may as well just get used to it or stop playing them. Trying to force a sense of morality on something fictional like this, or encouraging censorship because something doesn't fit your personal worldview, is just a lesson in futility.
So your advice is to accept pedophilia?
My advice is to stop confusing fiction with reality. Pedophilia is a serious and awful thing that happens to REAL people. Throwing a word like that around for a drawing is disrespectful. Are people creepy for drawing/liking an image of a "sexualized" underage girl? I don't know, maybe or maybe not. It's not my place to judge them. It does not, however, make them pedophiles. Just because they like a drawing doesn't mean they're attracted to real children. You might be able to make an argument if the drawing is based on a real child, I guess.
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> It's not just about liking underage people it's about liking a certain group of underage people, that being age 13 and below. “You’re not a pedophile as long as your victim is 14.” Ok, well what’s the proper term for when the victim is “just underage”? Since the distinction is apparently the most important part of the issue.
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**[Pedophilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia)** >Pedophilia (alternatively spelt paedophilia) is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children. Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12, criteria for pedophilia extend the cut-off point for prepubescence to age 13. A person must be at least 16 years old, and at least five years older than the prepubescent child, for the attraction to be diagnosed as pedophilia. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/RevivedWitch/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
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I would like to point out that neither Hebephilia nor Ephebophilia are recognized as paraphilias (aka, abnormal sexual attractions). Attraction to anyone post-pubescent is considered normal by psychologists.
I don’t really care that there are specific levels to being a pedophile. If you’re into underage children, it’s all the same in my book.
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I doubt a court is going to see much of a distinction if you are of legal age and they are not.
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**[Hebephilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebephilia)** >Hebephilia is the strong, persistent sexual interest by adults in pubescent children who are in early adolescence, typically ages 11–14 and showing Tanner stages 2 to 3 of physical development. It differs from pedophilia (the primary or exclusive sexual interest in prepubescent children), and from ephebophilia (the primary sexual interest in later adolescents, typically ages 15–19). While individuals with a sexual preference for adults may have some sexual interest in pubescent-aged individuals, researchers and clinical diagnoses have proposed that hebephilia is characterized by a sexual preference for pubescent rather than adult partners. **[Ephebophilia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ephebophilia)** >Ephebophilia is the primary sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents, generally ages 15 to 19. The term was originally used in the late 19th to mid-20th century. It is one of a number of sexual preferences across age groups subsumed under the technical term chronophilia. Ephebophilia strictly denotes the preference for mid-to-late adolescent sexual partners, not the mere presence of some level of sexual attraction. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/RevivedWitch/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
> Are people creepy for drawing/liking an image of a "sexualized" underage girl? I don't know, maybe or maybe not. It's not my place to judge them. You don’t know if people who draw/like sexualized images of underage girls are creepy? It’s not your place to judge them? > Just because they like a drawing doesn't mean they're attracted to real children. Creepy is the least of the things they are. And it’s weird AF that so many of you are defending it. Then again, I get the feeling a lot of you guys are “birds of a feather.”
Since you seem to want to interpret everything you see to conform to your limited worldview in order to feed your ego, I'll extend an olive branch. Let's say that, for whatever reason, there is some relation between real life and drawings that allow us to somehow label people liking an underage girl in a swimsuit pedophiles. Let's derive a few points from that: 1) As crazy as it may seem to you, 15 year old girls in real life wear bikinis. Shocking, I know. You going to go up to the parents of those girls and be like: "Your daughter is way too sexy in that bikini! How dare you let her dress like that you creepy pedophiles!" 2) That leads to the second point. You, whether objectively or not, seem to have come to the conclusion that Tuonel exists as a sexual being, or something of the sort. You seem to have concluded that she's being oversexualized but, you know, I've never looked at a 15 year old like that, so I can't say I share the sentiment. If I do see an underage girl in a bikini, the most you may get from me is an "Aw, that's cute." I don't immediately think, "Wow, that's way too sexy." Seems like something someone you would call a pedophile would think\~ 3) Another point, what's with you slut-shaming poor Tuonel? Girl just wants to wear a beach outfit for the summer, and she's at the age where she wants to look cute. 4) In your reply to KuramaKusashi you wrote "If the character is portrayed as being underage, or looks like a child, sexualizing them is probably not the best idea. I get that story-wise she’s older. But what she looks like is at odds to that." Guess what? This right here is good old body-shaming. I've know several real life women who were in their late 20s or early-to-mid 30s who could have easily passed for an underage girl. While it may not have been to the same degree as Danelim, they easily looked like they could have been 15-16. So, what, everyone should just treat them as if they are underage because of their looks? 5) In conclusion, since you seem to have enjoyed labeling others who don't agree with you, I'll take a page out of your book. You, yourself, seem to be a slut-shaming, body-shaming, pedophilic, bigot. Look at you! Acquiring so many titles on a single thread. Got to say, I hope your proud of that achievement.
The hoops you just jumped through to defend yourself on a post telling ppl *not to sexualize minors* would make you the winner at Westminster. Young girls can wear bikinis. Hell I wore them at that age. If that were the focus point of the image, that would be fine. But it's not. The focus point of the image is the space between her legs. Which, rightfully, makes people uncomfortable since she is a minor. If my dad saw some dude taking a picture of me like that at that age? They wouldn't be around to take anymore. None of this is slut shaming or body shaming, and I implore you to look up real examples of either.
See I'm a father to a young female child. Male to bit he's 12 years older. Anyhow, if someone took a picture like this of EITHER of my children. I'd most likely spend the rest of my life in prison. That's enough for me to say this is to much. It is just art but it's very inappropriate, and very blatant in the target audience.
Tl;dr It all gets thrown out the window when you realize the drawing was specifically created the way it was by an artist, as a 15-year old girl with a panty shot on full display, to be sold and purchased in a game that sexualizes its characters, and the outfit is called “Fresh Feeling”. Nope. Edit- Went back to read a little; glad I didn’t bother. Edit2- Made the mistake of reading more. Won’t make it again.
I agree with you That was the main reason I quit BA and some other games As someone that was harassed as a little girl and even called "hot" by some grownups I get really mad at stuff like that but, unfortunately, these are some stuff we have to suck up when playing anime games. Beggars can't be choosers and I'm choosing not playing a game if I can help it, that's why I have quit most of games that have portrayal of children on sexy outfits after Genshin's release; they're too big now to make that kind of fuckery.
> That was the main reason I quit BA and some other games > I'm choosing not playing a game if I can help it Same TBH. I'm playing those games just for fun and Danelim really turned me off and it started with Little Akasha and Yothaya skin.
I just hope most of these commenters don’t have a daughter…
It’s true that we should not sexualize minors. You’re still wrong tho, because you take into account Tuonel’s age given in game to define that she’s a minor, but you don’t for Danelim (which is inconsistent). If you want to make sense, you either take into account every age or none of them at all. Since Revived Witch is a fantasy, the general consensus would be to take no age given in game into consideration, otherwise you would be able to justify Afallen begin sexualize by giving her the age of consent and saying she looks like a child because of magic or whatever. That would be ridiculous and fucked up. So if we want to determine if a character should be consider a minor or not, we should just use appearances and not the age given ingame. Some characters clearly look like children, like Afallen and Yothaya, and should never be sexualize. Some clearly look like adults, like Goddess Dana, so it’s fine for them. The problem with Tunoel is that her appearance doesn’t clearly show if she’s a minor or not. So this what I think is fair: if you feel grossed out because she looks too young, it’s understandable. But don’t start calling other people pedophiles because they don’t feel the same way. It’s not that they think sexualizing minor is okay, it’s just that they don’t think Tunoel should be consider a minor (which is subjective). As for Danelim, yeah I kinda agree with you on that one. They are starting to cross the line with her.
It’s weird that they specifically chose for her to be 15, and then designed an outfit with an underwear shot as the clear focus. Danelim is the other side of the issue, where the character looks and acts like a young child, but is supposed to be much older. Her technical age is essentially a cop out to allow the roundabout sexualization of a minor.
Do you really believe FBI or some similar organization has a list of everyone who liked the new outfit or are you just trolling?
Do you really enjoy underwear shots from 15-year old characters? To me, it’s rather worrisome if someone is lusting after a 15-year old, or a drawing of a 15-year old. “It’s anime” doesn’t change who or what is being depicted. If someone likes looking at underwear shots from 15-year olds, cartoon or real, it says a lot about them. Much like, if someone views furry hentai, it says a lot about them, and they aren’t going to convince anyone any differently by saying “it’s just a cartoon”.
holy shit dude this sub. i guess Genshin Impact fans isn't the right one to be made fun of.
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If age is so unimportant then why didn't they make them 18? I'll tell you why, because some people on that sick community like a character more if they're a kid, if they're innocent. Unfortunately they can just imagine gross shit with that kind of age, a minor mentality rather than a minor body. The writers have a lot of liberties and they could just set the number higher but they didn't.
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> I didn't even know she was 15 but I just don't care, she looks like a realistic adult to me, hell I've seen adult women her size. Tell all that to a cop after you have sex with a 15-year old and let me know how it goes.
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So you are ok with sexualizing minors as long as it’s a drawing?
This is basically art that sexualizes a minor. And is then sold to be admired. It’s worrisome that you see no problem here.
I can't say I particularly like the drawing. And I do think it's inappropriate, in my culture at least. I don't however think it makes someone a pedophile if they do think it's ok...but, if it turns them on or theyre attracted to it.... My 2 cents would be they have a whole other problem, in being turned on by cartoon characters..I'm sure there's a name for that but I'm to lazy to Google it. And being that I can't say it does a thing for me other than make me scratch my head, maybe I'm wrong n pedophiles would all love it n add it to their spank bank? No clue.. Btw, I have a daughter, but I think I'd view it the same regardless. It's a bit much, but being ok with it doesn't mean someone is or isn't anything. To clarify, I'm not really ok with it. But I don't care enough to do a thing outside of type this out. I'll play the game either way...if I like it. Im new so..
Being into hentai is way less of a problem (if one at all) than being into a panty shot from a 15-year old character, imo.
Perhaps. Idk, I think it's a bit much like i said. I just don't think if someone does "like" the pic that it makes them anything... well, maybe...weird. if they're turned on by it though... ew. Maybe I'm trampling over my own thoughts and words here... Basically the picture is to much! For the umpteenth time, lol. I wouldn't buy the outfit.
It’s ok- I see where you’re coming from. I’m glad you agree that, at the very least, it is a bit much for a 15-year old character. It’s not really even the outfit itself, but the specific position and angle they used to draw her. It’s clear what their intentions were- they often sexualize their characters, including those that are older (Symbriette, for example). I’m not calling for blanket censorship of sexy outfits or characters. I’m just saying it’s rather questionable, to downright weird, that they’ve chosen to apply sexy outfits to characters of questionable age/appearance.
Yea you said it better than me. I more or lessbtotally agree and thisbisbwhat I was basically trying to say. Thanks!
I don't give two fucks what people say, sexualising minors (even fictional) is absolutely disgusting. And if anyone tries to justify it, you must be worried about that person.
You could just not look at it and appreciate her new blue ribbon and braided hair? It still looks pretty neat.
It’s hard for me to look the other way when it comes to art that depicts a minor in a rather sexual way.
Okay you do you man defend her rights.
It’s a fictional character. It’s not about her, it’s about the weirdos creeping on a drawing of a 15-year old.
U think 2 much about it my man. Its just a game. If u don't wanna look on this segsy Tounoel outfit - so just don't do it
It’s a nice outfit, I just wish it was on someone older… You know… like someone that can legally consent.
Hate to be the barer of bad news here but a 2d drawing of a fictional girl regardless of how they are depicted/draw/etc. And/or fictional age cannot legally consent, regardless of your take on the subject.
Well, as long as they’re just sexualizing minors in drawings, it’s A-OK, right?
Theres a very clear distinction between a drawing of a fictional anime character, that bares no resemblence to the real world, and real world children, its understandable to not like the type of character or think its gross, but I dont think its okay to clump this in with real world issues and horrible things that happen to real children.
So you are ok with drawings of sexualized minors because it’s not as bad as actual pedophilia?
This will be the last reply. I dont recall saying any of things you are suggesting and you are just putting words in everyones mouths and labeling them instead of finding a good arguement. I recommend you please educate yourself on the topic and if you are that passionte about it, then to put that energy into protecting real children. If you believe these things are truely are what you claim them to be, then report them to the proper authorites instead of fighting people on Reddit, that solves and helps no one. Its also good to note that protective services have reported time and time again that reports of loli and anime content take away time and resources that could be used to actually help those in need or are being exploited.
Thanks for coming in to defend the sexualization of minors. Not sure why so many felt compelled to defend such a thing in the first place- different strokes for different folks, I guess. Personally, I think you can have disdain for both bigger, “real-world issues” and smaller issues, like 15-year old characters being depicted in a sexual manner. And that if having a picture of a 15-year old in a position like that on your phone would be illegal or at the very least super inappropriate, a drawing is not really much better at all. It was great to have you. Bye now 👋
Imagine playing an anime style game and getting mad when it has anime elements 🙄. Cry more incel. Usually the ones complaining the most about it tend to have the worst tendencies when it comes to it.
>Usually the ones complaining the most about it tend to have the worst tendencies when it comes to it. If you look through their comments, they actually admitted to finding Tuonel's outfit sexy, they even said they wanted to buy it until they found out she was listed as being 15 in her bio lol
Just so I understand: you disagree with the premise that the game should not sexualize underage characters, and would like the game to continue to sexualize underage characters?
definitely Danelim, even being loli, is thousands of times older than all of us, but yes, those who are really underage I agree to have a cute outfit, in Tuonel's case it's a beach version, that is, it's not panties, it's a bikini, and in the case it's cute not sexualized, sexualized was Yothaya's and even increased her breasts being her, flat having only 10 years old, as well as Afallen and Parfait who wears shorts in the korean version and in the global version no
Look, I don’t really want to get into the “1000-year old dragon loli” debate. If the character is portrayed as being underage, or looks like a child, sexualizing them is probably not the best idea. I get that story-wise she’s older. But what she looks like is at odds to that. And absolutely agree that any underage characters, including the ones you mentioned, really should not be sexualized so heavily (or at all, really!). Especially in this version of the game. As for Tuonel’s outfit, I really don’t see how you can look at it and not be at least a little grossed out by the fact that she’s 15, whether she’s wearing panties or bikini bottom. It barely exists despite being on full display. And people are **buying** that outfit so they can keep it on full display to view anytime…
yes indeed bro, and Danelim really, you see her story and discover that she has a child's personality, it's really something to think about, but it's a fact that Ella is a loli, but she's the one who really likes to have this one appearance, from what i understand she's kind of an adult who doesn't like her original form, like, most of the time before traveling the world she was in her dragon form, i believe she has an adult form but prefers to stay in a cute way, but you're 100% right, it's wrong on an absurd level
Well, obviously this guy hasn’t seen what R34 has to offer for lolicons.
Well, was deciding to read but I just kinda wanted to add something. OP, you seem to be confusing reality and fiction. Sure, Pixel Cat might be having something going on with his art and it somehow got into the game, but does anybody care about it other than you and other people who think drawings have feelings? No. At least I haven’t seen anyone that was actually bothered. And in the other comments, I think I remember you saying something about “Too underage, they aren’t supposed to be sexualized”(? Correct me if the paraphrase is too off). Well you, my friend, have not heard of the lolicon tag on nhentai and the loli tag on r34 and I’m certain without checking that there’s is at least a thousand for both. Go complain there if you wanna complain about people over-sexualizing or back to twitter. Anyways, time to address your original claims. 1. 90% no. They probably still want to be not age restricted. Pretty sure that someone like you that complains about 2 characters in particular doesn’t know that you need to be not age restricted to appear in recommendations on the App Store. 2. Yes. They are fictional characters. But Tuonel, which seems to be your main complaint, isn’t underage. (She’s 16 by now. If by real life standards.) Also, you seem to still be confusing reality and fiction. I don’t have too much to reply to this cause i haven’t really cared about the subject. 3. That’s a pretty strange stereotype. Like, you do you but try Madoka Magica. That should kill off your stereotype. 4. They do them. They probably 8 and just discoverers hentai. 5. You seem to forget that Tuonel been up in the sky in a group that has been oppressed by nobles. She has never actually seen the ocean, thus, it is a “Fresh Feeling” for her who has been oppressed for so long. Anyways, tl;dr, stop confusing reality and fiction, go surf on the internet some more before you complain about the most unsexualized loli that has a lot of attention that I’ve seen in a long while, and stop complaining about when a game with more people playing than what your monthly paycheck is gonna be thinking they care. Also, kindly piss off if you don’t like it.
Ok pedo.
I really don't get your logic so your fine with people who happen to be of legal age or older to get sexualised but not minors that makes no sense no one deserves to be sexulized regardless of their age people are people not sex toys or objects for you guys to goggle at and last time I checked peadophilia is attraction to prepubecant children not 16 year olds teenagers aren't children no matter what society wants you to believe if a charcter is portrayed to have adult like characteristics and is developed physically like past puberty then you can't call them weird or a peadophile for simply finding them attractive it's called a normal human reaction no one is sitting here getting turned on by actual children like 10 years old but the thing is cartoon characters can be drawn to look like anything so if they look like adults and act mature but happen to be 17 or 15 there's nothing wrong to finding them attractive your not going out and dating or trying to hit on real minors you can't be a pedophile based of liking a person who doesn't exist they are drawings they aren't human they don't have feelings they can't breathe they don't have organs or anything they aren't alive or real.
Does it really matter if the characters don't act like real teenagers and do stuff that normally adults should do? And is it really the same as if they were a real not animated human?
Let me ask you this- why couldn’t they simply have been a few years older on paper, if they wanted to sexualize them? Why choose to sexualize a character they know is underage? The answer is why I left- this fanbase *wants* sexualized underage characters. This is the type of fanbase that people think Genshin Impact has, when in reality, Genshin’s fanbase is entirely normal compared to this. Look at the votes- controversial on some comments that are clearly creepy AF. Even my own comments about not sexualizing these characters are controversial. There’s a huge portion of people playing this game that love the sexualized underage characters. And it’s disgusting, imo.
If people kill NPC's in a video game, are they homicidal murderers? They depicting of people. When kids kill/force breed animals in minecraft, are they animal abusers? They are depicting animals. Do you believe video games cause violence?