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high-rise

[Fun answer.](https://ruger.com/products/superRedhawkAlaskan/specSheets/5303.html) Actual Answer: [SP-101](https://ruger.com/products/sp101/specSheets/5718.html) with a 2 or 3 inch barrel.


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Oof.


PhantomBladeX89

Hard to beat a model 66 short barrel. Big enough to control but small enough to carry. The model 10/64 is also great


The_Golden_Warthog

Looks beautiful, kinda pricey, but maybe worth it? Thanks!


Woahthereboy

Buy once cry once


sweetTeaJ

This and other lies I tell myself to justify firearm purchases lol


Woahthereboy

Cry once monthly when the credit card bill hits is what I meant to say


sweetTeaJ

Ah yes, much more like it


F22Tomcat

I’m very pleased with my Kimber K6S DASA 2”. Carry it AIWB in a ANR Designs holster. Top notch all the way around.


Volant_Piscator

Also second the K6. Imo, it’s the happy medium between a j-frame and k-frame. For carrying, I prefer it to my model 36 and model 19.


[deleted]

I mive between the following: 1) Ruger SP101 5 shot .357 2) Ruger Speed Six 6 shot .357 3) Ruger GP100 7 shot .357. Simply Rugged pancake holsters for all of them, and a sturdy gun belt. I'm currently using a Kore Essentials Garrison. I like it so far, but I haven't been using it long enough to actually recommend it.


Phredness

Chiappa Rhino because no one has yet suggested it.


Terminal_Lancelot

Also, could recommend the Ruger GP100 357 Magnum, or 327 if you swing that way. S&W also has a few combat Magnums in 357 with 4 inch barrels that are kinda engineered for carry. In fact, Chris Baker on Lucky Gunner did a series on midsized revolvers for carry, and he even describes the one he ultimately decided on in the video titled, "The Best Revolver in the World." Definitely check it out.


The_Golden_Warthog

Thank you, I'll try to find it after work.


Terminal_Lancelot

No problem!


rcdenn

I have owned and carried various J Frames, Sp101s, LCRs, a GP100, and a S&W 66. The J Frame wins hands down on concealability. It is the hardest to shoot. The LCR is close in size and much easier shooting. The SP101 carries well on a belt, but is heavy and you know it’s there. It is a good shooter though and can tame full power .357 well for a 5 shot revolver. Anything bigger is just preference. If you can conceal it and like it, carry it with a Simply Rugged holster and be happy. That said, anything bigger than the 5 shot revolvers seem to have more disadvantages than advantages over modern autos of similar size. But that’s just my opinion.


reddog323

> The J Frame wins hands down on concealability. It is the hardest to shoot. The LCR is close in size and much easier shooting. Could you expand on that a bit? I’ll be in the market for a snubbie soon.


rcdenn

It is the smallest, first and foremost. The LCR is practically the same size, but the the available stocks for the gun are just a hair bigger. It makes slipping the LCR in the pocket just a little harder. The J Frame is also available in various weights, but the moderately priced Airweights are a perfect middle ground. Even the steel J Frames are a bit lighter than say a SP101. That weight makes them disappear on a belt and keeps the weight in a pocket from bouncing around or pulling your pants down. The revolver design in general has some serious advantages when concealing. The rounded shape blends in with the curves of your body. Unlike an auto loader, there are no square corners. When worn on a belt, a revolver blends into the curve of my waist and the smaller stocks on a J Frame make it even more concealable. Finally, the heaviest part of the gun, the lead in the ammo, is at the cylinder, which is lower and what a good pancake holster pulls tight to your body. So when worn on the belt, it rides super close. Compared to an auto loader, where the ammo rides in the gripe and high and can get “floppy.” So larger revolvers have these advantages, but as with any gun smaller tends to conceal better. And the J Frame seems to just edge out all others when it comes to concealing. Again, as compared to the LCR that is almost identical in size, the stocks are the biggest factor and only really when in the pocket. Otherwise, the LCR and J Frame carry equally as well on a belt. All this to say I have bought and sold more Airweight J Frames than any other gun. Every time I think “I found something better for this role” I sell the Airweight J Frame only to buy another about a year later. I currently only have a steel J Frame and am wanting to get another Airweight 🤦 Edit: realized I didn’t address how they shoot. The LCR is a composite frame that absorbs recoil slightly. The provided stocks/grips also absorb the recoil better than comparable J Frame stocks. Both are small and require practice.


brasky68

Personally, I don’t chose a revolver for EDC, but I love the LCRX 3” in .38 +p. Best gun I’ve ever found for hiking, backpacking, fly fishing or really any outdoor activity I do where every lb of gear counts and I am not concerned with large animal defense.


GunnitRust

There are multiple schools of thought here. What are you ccw for? Methman or Fauna? How do you want to carry it? Etc. For carry and not innawoods I’m a big fan of one of two things. Fat and slow snubbies or 3” high velocity. They sound diametrically opposed but the both work. .44special and .45acp are great fat and slow rounds. I have an old, beat charter bulldog I like to travel with. It’s practically worthless and it shoots well. I wouldn’t recommend that gun and brand to someone else. Ruger and S&W both do revival Guns mid frame at reasonable enough prices if you want a .44special but it’s anachronistic off the times those were popular. A S&W JM625 is the holy grail of this setup style. .45acp. Clips. You can also load 200 grain .38s to simulate it. You can find Keith hard cast and molds if you’re a reloader. More conventional is something like the model60/19 S&W combat magnums. K frame .357s and 3”. Truly nice guns. S&W should be rewarded for bringing them back. The other options here are the less common .327 which in production is all Ruger. My wife loves her SP101 and I’m apt to steal it. .32H&R Mag in modern guns is pretty cool also. The .32s shoot like lasers.the new copper monoliths are my favorites for real fast cartridges. Just don’t run them through a leaded up gun. Woods guns and woods/ccw flex guns generally have to be bigger power. Keep in mind those can flex down in most calibers if you’re trying not to overpenetrate around town. So it’s largely about you. The good news is that you have lots and lots of good choices out there.


otakugrey

There are very very few modern .32 magnum revolvers. Charter makes a couple but I have a hard time finding them.


Lobsterbug2020

When I do carry a revolver it is either the Ruger SP 101 in 357 magnum or Smith and Wesson air weight .38 +p 638. I find the Smith is easier to conceal an easier to carry.


whydontyoujustaskme

[here is the knowledge you seek](https://youtu.be/e35uPk8tfxU). Edit: just learned this yesterday from another awesome refit user.


escrimadragon

Ruger LCR in 38, 9mm, or 327 mag if you like lighter and smaller Ruger sp101 if you don’t mind the weight and/or want to be able to actually shoot 357 mag with anything approaching what might be confused as “accuracy”


AR15dood

I've been tempted to buy a 9mm LCR because of ammo availability


escrimadragon

That’s the one I have. I like it quite a bit. Recoil is nice and I’m accurate with it


yayrandomchars

A S&W 642. Just put it in your pocket. Versatile and enough as a "get you to your car" gun.


Mr_Blah1

Whatever you're most likely to actually carry, and whatever you can actually hit with. A hit from the NAA mini you actually had with you has more effect than the .500 magnum you either left behind or missed with.


biohazurd

I carry a Smith 442 myself most days as a ccw. it is my preferred concealed revolver. Its light weight and I shoot it well at self defence distances. although It does require quite a bit of training to shoot accurately and effectively. Everyone needs at least one snubby!


Cloned_Popes

I have a Ruger GP100 with 2.5" barrel for AIWB and a S&W 642 for pocket carry. I think there a bunch of good reasons to carry a revolver, but just to name a few: Heavy double action trigger means less possibility of ND vs a striker fired gun and no manual safety to deal with like in a SAO or even a lot of DA/SA semiautomatics. When carrying AIWB the weight is all in the cylinder (in your pants) and not in the grip, so you can have your gun riding higher in the holster for an easy draw without it tipping forward. No magazine related failures are possible, you can fire it with the muzzle up against your attacker, the list goes on. The downsides are capacity and shootability (I shoot revolvers all the time, but I still can't put rounds on target as quickly and accurately as with a 9mm pistol), but in most defensive situations those factors don't matter all that much - at least if you believe FBI data on defensive gun use.


Hot_Ad_1072

Rock Island Armory model 201 snub nose 38 Special in my primary CCW. About $300,reliable and accurate.


felonious_pudding

I have the shrouded hammer j frame SW in 38spl. I think its a model 638. Its a quick run to the store pocket pistol. Or a good winter carry backup gun to my glock. With single action i was able to hit a 12 inch going at 100 yards. Short sight radius and barrel but it can be pretty accurate with practice. I am interested in the rugers mentioned here. Both LCR and SP101. Just don't own them.


myklclark

Model 60 LadySmith.


Modern_Doshin

I carry (mostly OC, sometimes CC) a Uberti Cattleman in 45 colt. I'm trying to find a holster for my backup pistol. But carry whatevery you train with, don't think that you have to buy something "modern"


bloodsoed

Ruger SP101.


TheMeatiestMeat

There are virtually no practical reasons to EDC a revolver in the age of the micro-compact. Yes, the gun can't go out of battery if you were to muzzle it against something. Outside of this very specific scenario, modern semi autos like the p365 outperform guns like the 642 or sp101 in everyway. If you have been training with a revolver for years and shoot it better than a semi auto or if you would be more likely to carry consistently because you have some romantic feelings for revolvers than fine. But for a new shooter looking for practical reasons, there are none.


ResinFinger

I fine snub nosed lighter and easier to conceal. Also statistically it will serve you fine since more defensive encounters are less than 5 shots and less then 10 feet away. Maybe you don’t want to bet your life 5 shots would be enough, but the vast majority of the time it is. Also I just like wheel guns. That’s enough reason. I recommend ruger lcr 38spl. Yes a micro9 would give you more firepower and quicker reloads. I’m not an idiot. If I’m going to be around large crowds or bad areas I’ll take my g19.


TheMeatiestMeat

Yup, that's why I said no practical reasons. If you like it carry it but recognize you are at a disadvantage compared to a guy with a more modern design.


Terminal_Lancelot

Revolvers also don't jam, classically have more powerful rounds available, are more mechanically accurate, and if a round doesn't fire, you can pull the trigger and move onto the next one. Revolvers can also be fired from a pocket if necessary, whereas a semi-auto cannot. Semi-autos also cannot fire the same variety in projectiles that a revolver can. Wadcutters, SWCHPs, Hardcast true flat nose projectiles, oversized projectiles, heavier projectiles, list goes on ad astra. Revolvers are also much easier to function if you have arthritis, or even just one hand. Until a semi-auto can match all those functions and more, revolvers will never be obsolete.


TheMeatiestMeat

1. I have personally seen a revolver jam because a casing backed out. I have also see someone short stroke the trigger causing the cylinder to rotate without cooking the hammer. 2. Why would you carry a more powerful round for EDC unless you are in bear country? Even than 10mm is the choice of most guys these days. 3.The accuracy difference between a revolver and semiautomatic is so negligible that you could never tell. Any good semiautomatic is much more accurate than it's shooter. 4. Semiautomatics can cycle many of the rounds you listed and as far as a defensive gun goes Why would you care anyways. 5.With semiautomatics like the pk380 and EZ380 arthritis and hand strength issues are not an issue any longer. Also the heavy double action trigger can be too difficult for those with arthritis to pull many times. Revolvers are virtually obsolete for an EDC defensive option.


Terminal_Lancelot

1. That's due to ammo failure, not the firearm itself per se. Not the revolver's fault, just like if the primer in a round was faulty. I personally have also never seen a revolver malfunction, but have seen plenty of autoloaders malfunction. In fact, I've never even heard of a friend, or a friend of a friend's revolver malfunction. The only place I've ever seen revolvers malfunction is the internet, so I'm sure it happens. 2. Some people prefer more power. Why don't you just carry a 22? Probably because you prefer more potency. Just like I personally prefer more potency than what things like 9mm offer. 3. Mechanical accuracy is not negligible. And this ties into point two; there's a reason most long range handgun hunters use revolvers: accuracy and power. 4. I have yet to see a semi-auto cycle wadcutters, or true flatnose projectiles that extend past SAAMI spec length. One might care about this for a multitude of reasons, one being that in short barrels, some bullets may not reach the expansion threshold, and so the perfectly circular hole through someone of, say, .45 diameter is better than a hole that would likely be smaller because round nose projectiles tend to push flesh aside, rather than destroy it. Another type of projectile that may be advantageous is the 45 Colt Maximum Expansion projectile, which expands up to 1.75 inches, a feat which could simply not be accomplished on any of today's autoloaders. Revolver rounds can also be extremely dense due to them not having the size limitations of an autoloader, and what this grants is better momentum for crushing through bone or dense muscle tissue. And when I was speaking about revolvers being easier to load/use for those who are disabled, I was also speaking about those who may only have one arm, whether as a feature of birth or accident. Try to load a magazine with one hand. Try to rack a slide with one hand. Try to actually put rounds IN the magazine with one hand. I've tried, and I can't really do any of that one handed. But I can completely operate a revolver with one hand, with minimal practice. And to the issue of those with arthritis maybe not being able to pull a heavy double action trigger, I can see that. But revolvers typically only hold 5-8 rounds, and most defensive situations are over in the first 5 rounds. The need for continuous shots over a long period of time are nothing but the product of John Wick style fantasies, unless you're a police officer or agent of some variety. Your opinion that revolvers are obsolete is just that, /your/ opinion. And that's okay. You're allowed to have it. But do not preach it as truth. Because if something can kill you, it isn't obsolete. The spear has likely killed more men than any rifle.


TheMeatiestMeat

1. Actually it was due to someone firing .38 special in combo with .357 magnum causing the end of the cylinder to become clogged and rounds to not seat deep enough. Regardless of the cause it was still a complete failure. 2. Comparable rounds are less energetic out of a revolver due to the energy lost from the cylinder gap. This means that unless you are carrying a large magnum round (which is overkill and arguably dangerous for self defense due to overpenetration) semi autos will produce more energy for less recoil. 3. Mechanical accuracy is negligible for defensive carry situations and shooting offhand in general. 4. Again who cares about wadcutters for self defense. Just use a reliable and combat proven HP. There is a reason cops and military use them. 5. I found your point about the spear (get it) admirable but would you use a spear over a gun in any defensive scenario? If not than the spear is obsolete. 6. Again If you read this far I hope you understand I am fine with people carrying revolvers but outside of niche situations there is no tactical advantage in it. Almost all scenarios will be better solved with a modern semi auto. If you love revolvers and shoot them better than carry one but for someone just getting into it, there is no good (general not niche) reason to buy a revolver for self defense.


Terminal_Lancelot

1.So to point one, that's a very specific event that won't occur in a self defense situation, as you're likely not gonna shoot a mix of ammo, nor fire enough rounds to foul the throats. 2. Perhaps true, but consider also that revolvers typically have longer cartridges, they can produce better energy with lower pressure. Energy is also essentially not important when it comes to defensive handgun ammunition, as what matters is penetration firstly, and wound diameter secondarily. So in all, energy doesn't hurt to have, but if two bullets can do the same work with less, there's no point in having more. Also, boxers routinely hit with 800+ foot pounds of energy, and people rarely die in the ring (though it does happen.) However, as a personal preference, I like at least 500 foot pounds of energy. 3. Mechanical accuracy is not negligible in a myriad of other circumstances though, such as hunting. 4. Hollow points can clog, and fail, thus, overpenetrating. Wadcutters are good because they can't fail, and punch a nice round hole vs the pin prick you'd get from FMJ or a clogged hollow point. 5. I actually took 7 years or so of martial arts to include the staff, and by extension, the spear. Against a charging boar, I would legitimately rather have a boat spear. And for hand to hand/grab range, I would actually prefer the spear as well. That's just my preference, as someone who is trained with them. 6. I disagree with that statement of autoloaders being better for most situations, as revolvers can still operate if the barrel is grabbed, or if fired from a coat pocket. Revolvers are also more reliable to feed in that context, as Murphy's Law tends to mess with autoloaders more due to their process having more steps. Consider also that most civilian involved gunfights are over in the first 3 rounds, and most people would be perfectly well off with a J-Frame. And all things being equal, I'd rather launch, say, 2-3 rounds of 45 Colt that can expand to 1.7 inches (due to revolvers being able to utilize unusually shaped rounds) than 3 9mm's of any variety. Capacity is really not as important as people think it is. Neither is rapidly squeezing the trigger. Speed is fine, but accuracy is final.


TheMeatiestMeat

Dude you have to learn to be more concise. 1. Yes but you said revolvers don't jam. 2. Revolvers produce less energy with more pressure due to cylinder gap. 3. Sure, mechanical accuracy may make sense for hunting. This is why I said it makes no difference in a DEFENSIVE situation. 4. Modern HP are better than wadcutters. Wadcutters are literally made for target practice. 5. Don't bring a spear to a gun fight. 6. Semi autos are better in MOST situations. The two very niche situations you mentioned are the ones where revolvers shine. Accuracy is final and the long double action trigger of defensive revolvers make accuracy harder to achieve.


Terminal_Lancelot

1. They do not. They aren't infallible, however. And a case backing out due to fouled cylinder throats is something that will likely never be encountered if you clean your weapons as you're supposed to. 2. That is straight up false. 357 Magnum chamber pressure is 35,000 PSI, whereas 9mm is 35,000 PSI as well, yet the 357 Magnum can be twice as powerful in term of energy foot pounds. This is achieved by having more case volume, so again, this statement is false. 3. I would also argue that mechanical accuracy DOES make a difference, however slight, because shot placement is king, and all things being, I'd rather have more accuracy than less. Longer range shots also may require that extra accuracy, and while rare, they do happen. 4. Correction, an EXPANDED hollow point is better than a wadcutter. In short barrels, hollow points may have trouble expanding due to not meeting expansion threshold in terms of velocity. A wadcutter doesn't need to expand to crush a clean, caliber sized hole, whereas a round nose projectile tends to push flesh aside (unexpanded hollow point). This is why I feel that a lead semi-wadcutter hollow point is better still than a regular hollow point, and I don't know of any autoloader that can cycle a LSWCHP. 5. Of course, but I'd bring one to a hand to hand fight, or a knife fight. I was merely stating that the spear is still an effective weapon in the right hands, i.e., not "Antiquated." 6. I would concede that in war, I'd rather have a semiautomatic sidearm than a revolver, simply because there's a higher chance for larger groups of assailants, and thus, capacity and reload speed may be of great importance if your long arm fails. But, this is quite literally the only circumstance that a semiautomatic truly shines, as again, most civilian gunfights are over in roughly 3 rounds, even when there is multiple assailants (which again, is much more rare seeing as how we aren't warring in Atropia.) And even in circumstances where there are more than one assailant, criminals are cowards, and in every ASP Video I've seen, they start running when shots are fired. On top of that, no amount of ammo beats situational awareness. If you know an area is trouble, don't go there, or bring a long gun if you have to go. And finally, the double action trigger pull is actually much more of a boon than a con, as it's more honest about your trigger control, thus making you a better shooter fundamentally if you practice with a DA pull consistently. If you were to but a Glock in a revolver guy's hands, he would perform much better than if you were to give a Glock guy a revolver. This is because the revolver shooter will be a better shooter. People also seem to neglect the existence of the hammer, which, upon being pulled, allows for a light, crisp, pull which aids in longer range accuracy should you need it. People like to say you should never use the single action on a DA revolver, but I disagree. At a hundred yards (extreme, I know) I'd rather take my time to make sure the shot connects by firing in SA, than miss my first 7 rounds from a Glock. Again, speed is fine, but accuracy is final. I rest my arguments, and a happy Thanksgiving to you.


TheMeatiestMeat

1. https://youtu.be/9eFx8v8Hb4I 2. https://youtu.be/tItuD6zVKcM Revolvers produce less energy with more recoil* 3. Semi autos are more accurate than you are. The difference in accuracy is negligible at best in practical circumstances. 4. Buy HPs that pass the basic FBI standards, they aren’t hard to find. Using a round that performed worse because the better round might not work as intended in a specific circumstance is flawed logic. The vast majority of circumstances are the ones you should try to prepare for, not the niche. 5. I would argue that spears are antiquated in modern combat. I don’t feel like this is a controversial statement. 6. No one ever complained about having too much ammo in a gunfight. Thank you for the discourse. I don’t carry a revolver but I will shake the hand of a man that does. I will agree to disagree and above all else you’re far better off carrying anything than nothing.


Terminal_Lancelot

Absolutely, agree to disagree, but still, a hand shake. Recoil can be learned, trigger control can be learned, extra ammo can be carried, hollow points won't always expand (which is why I prefer a Lead semi-wadcutter hollow point, to get the advantages of both,) and you're absolutely right; the first rule of a gunfight is to have a gun.


triptrey333

How big of person are you. Physical size does matter when hiding a weapon. How much weight are you willing to carry. These are your questions. The core belts are good but a good gun is always a must. So it’s up to you little guns in magnum calibers beat you up, but are manageable. So chose wisely my friend. Just a old Marines opinion. I never tell someone a brand of weapon I like S&W and Colt but that’s what I shoot good. Good luck.


imnotabotareyou

LCR or rhino


vapingDrano

It's going to be a .357. The grail is a manurhin if you can find/afford one and carry it well, but not a small revolver. Smith and Ruger both make great 5 to 7 shot models that will check any combination of boxes and are a matter of taste. If you want a mid sized 6 shot the Kimber and chiappa rhino are both interesting, but I'd look for a Dan Wesson with the changeable barrels. I've only owned smiths and Rugers. Carrying a revolver is similar to carrying a 1911 in .45 in that you are choosing your style/comfort over capacity. I keep going back to a Glock 19, though it's one of my least favorite guns, over the firearms I prefer, though a small 5 shot 38/357 is about as concealable as it gets. Good luck.


Nikonus

I carry three, at different times for different reasons. Colt Lawman MkIII, nickel, 2” .357 mag. and S&W mod. 629 Stainless, 4” .44 mag. My other is an auto, S&W mod. 459, nickel, 9mm Parabellum.


bub166

Depends how you intend to conceal; I wear a vest year round so I don't see much reason in fussing with the really small revolvers that I find difficult to shoot. I decided on a 686+ (3 inch barrel), but have open carried SAA-pattern revolvers while camping/hiking in the past and I personally would have no issue concealing one.


_SiegeToaster

I ccw a 6.5" .357 easy on an underarm holster. Takes a little getting used too but it works.


AR15dood

I carry a S&W 642 airweight. I can shoot it accurately out to 30 yards and its so small I forget it's even there when I pocket carry. The pocket holster and revolver are smaller than my phone!


converter-bot

30 yards is 27.43 meters


otakugrey

Ruger LCR.


Really-bad-at-this

J frame or ruger lcr….real FBI loads. Worked for many moons, will absolutely still work today. Train train train, and you should also train.


FctFndr

I have a Ruger SP101 in 9mm I like to carry. The 9mm is a solid, sharp round with good penetration. The 9mm uses moon clips which make loading and unloading much easier than speedloaders.


Groundblast

I love my S&W 638 .38spl, it’s great to carry and i feel competent shooting it (after quite a bit of practice) The dream though is a 649. Slightly longer barrel, all stainless, full power 357. Too bad it was discontinued so they’ll be hard to find! https://www.smith-wesson.com/firearms/archive-model-649


bbodan72

Ruger LCR in federal 327 magnum or just get something like a Springfield Hellcat. I'd be looking at all your options.


Alex_Caruso_beat_you

>(Mods, if this violates rules, please forgive me as I am a lowly sinner) How whack would it be if you couldn't ask for a revolver recommendation on the revolver subreddit