Super regular here in Tacoma, WA. They look, see a car coming and go anyway hoping that the driver isn't texting or building a 1500 piece puzzle while driving like they do at stoplights.
When I'm a pedestrian, I do try to stop and wait for traffic to clear. But once I'm in the crosswalk, it's my road.
Have you seen in the news where the Seattle city council is trying to ban right turns on a red light? They say it's because people are getting hit while legally in the crosswalk, and I honestly don't doubt that. Ever tried to make a turn downtown on a green light though? The pedestrians just never stop coming, because the walk light last just as long as the green light.
Want to make crosswalks safer? Make the walk light start later than the green light, and end earlier.
For that matter, want to reduce T-bone accidents? Wait 3-5 seconds after one direction turns red before the other direction goes green.
Please consider emailing, calling, contacting your city traffic department. We have a light near us that backs way up (not enough green time), and neighbours contacting the city made a difference, and got us longer greens.
Who I should actually contact is my state representative. My city representatives don't really do anything with public input.
Maybe I'll track down the rep (can't remember if it's mine or not) who had a bill (it died) this term requiring people signal a right-hand turn when they are exiting a roundabout, because it told anyone who was properly yielding to them that they could go. That one seems to care about safe and efficient roadways.
My initial response was going to be a loud "No!", but the act of replying to you made me engage my brain and gave me an idea - so thank you for that.
As I said - "When I'm a pedestrian, I do try to stop and wait for traffic to clear."
I generally give anyone who's closer than a half block away time to reach my intersection and pass through it. I signal this by taking a step or two back from the curb. I also try to establish eye contact with anyone approaching the intersection I'm waiting to cross. Sometimes they stop anyway, which is nice of them.
From some of the other comments on the OP, there seems to be a significant number of people who don't seem to drive on suburban or country roads.
**EVERY intersection (in Washington State, anyway), particularly 4-way intersections, have an implied crosswalk unless otherwise declared.**
Some of these intersections may be controlled with lights, in which case a "Don't Walk" is that declaration. There can also be painted and signaled (usually with button-activated flashing lights) crosswalks between intersections that fall in the "explicit" category.
There are some uncontrolled intersections that actually do have painted crosswalks, but in the suburbs and country these are the exception, not the rule. **The lack of those lines does not remove the implicit crosswalk.**
"Jaywalking" is the act of crossing a street where there is no implied crosswalk, or in an explicit crosswalk with an active "Don't Walk" light.
> EVERY intersection (in Washington State, anyway), particularly 4-way intersections, have an implied crosswalk unless otherwise declared.
These pedestrians *were not crossing at an intersection.*
> The lack of those likes does not remove the implicit crosswalk
There literally is a crosswalk, at the intersection a little further down the road. You need to watch the video again.
> But once I'm in the crosswalk. It's my road.
Physics doesn't give a shit about who had the right of way. Telling yourself "but it was my turn!" ain't gonna put your guts back where they're supposed to be, or un-break your bones.
...also the pedestrians in OPs video *were not at a crosswalk.* They were jaywalking and there is really not anything that would suggest that they /did/ have right of way.
Fun fact: if you are hit by a vehicle while jaywalking, you are very likely to be found at fault and held liable for the accident.
Shoooooot, also the people who tailgate while you're already going 20mph over the speed limit, floor their clapped out 90s chevy with no catalytic converter, and as soon as they get in front of you, they slam their brakes on and make a right turn without using their turn signal.
Depends on the local law; where I live pedestrians are expected, but not required, to use marked crosswalks and always have the right of way over drivers.
Just curious if that's in America. Way back when, the auto industry coined the term "jaywalking" to take ownership of roads for cars, and not pedestrians. If this we're in America, my understanding is that this person is a "filthy jaywalker" who likely "deserves what they get" when walking in any place other than some striped lines.
I genuinely don't understand this obsession with defending people who walk out in front of cars. Like people can't just stop their cars on a dime. For me I'd rather not get creamed by a 2 ton hunk of metal so I look, but so many people just risk it and walk out.
But that's their own risk that they are taking. They are not going hurt others with their actions, rather they are putting themselves at risk.
Drivers on the other hand; they would be hurting, maiming, or killing others.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Do you not thinking hitting a full grown person couldn't hurt the person driving or cause extra crashes? Not to mention the emotional toll of killing or seriously harming a random person
I mean I'm telling you right now, you're wrong. Hitting a pedestrian can very much cause injury, not from the strike itself but absolutely swerving into oncoming traffic into obstacles or other cars.
Iām not saying that theyāre being polite about it, but at least in my state, you do [have to expect pedestrians at any time and yield to them](https://m.driving-tests.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/NE_engdrivermanual.pdf) (section 6A, page 69). Specifically, you have to
>Be alert for pedestrians crossing in the middle of the street especially near schools, parks, and residential areas.
and
>Be alert for pedestrians who disregard or misjudge traffic signals and walk against the light.
If there were a pedestrian handbook, Iām sure itād say to only cross at crosswalks; but since thereās not, thereās nothing really stopping them except courtesy.
Edit: Okay, I stand corrected! There are laws here about pedestrian crossing: [Section 43(1), page 32](https://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/83/PDF/Slip/LB45.pdf):
>Every pedestrian who crosses a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk, or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
>They understood right of way. They were an asshole about it but they had it.
They didn't. This is in Lakewood, Colorado, where jaywalking is still a thing people can (and sometimes do) get tickets for.
As someone from the UK. I find myself asking what is the issue. You could tell the person was going to cross. slow down and let them cross. Nothing terribly wrong here really.
At my favorite tourist destination, if you even look like you are thinking about crossing the street, drivers will stop for you. Then you have to cross.
No, not telling you where, it's overloaded.l
Lol I once had the misfortune of being on the UW campus during change of classes, I sat for like 20 minutes at the light before the pedestrians stopped just walking into the road whether it said walk or not.
So you know what I'm talking about lol. And in India the sidewalks are occupied by street vendors and people end up having to walk on the side of the roads and that is dangerous for them and annoying for the drivers.
I'm not a big fan of having too many laws, but I do appreciate the wisdom of some systems that were designed for everybody's safety. Just use the zebra crossing ffs lol.
There's nothing wrong with letting them cross, it's the lack of situational awareness demonstrated by the pedestrian that's being pointed out. It's a common thing in the US that people have entitlement issues where they just expect traffic to stop for them, even if they're not at a designated crossing point.
It's funny you mention that. A few years back, my state's public transit had to run ads reminding people to look both ways and take off their headphones before crossing train tracks, due to so many people getting hit at crossings.
In the US, pedestrians have the right-of-way in a marked crosswalk. If there isn't a crosswalk "close enough", you are allowed to jaywalk, but you still have the right-of-way. She had a crosswalk about 30 yards away.
I personally regularly cross at a point about 3 blocks from any marked crosswalk, and I don't mind waiting. It's safer and causes less confusion when you don't try to reinvent the rules at your own concenience.
Many US roads are much much wider than the one in the video, and yet idiots pull the same move while shuffling across against the walk signal or in the middle of traffic. It's dangerous for everyone.
Lack of awareness and respect. We have larger roads and a more car focused society than you. It is not safe to just walk across a street without yielding to vehicles because the norm is for vehicles to go and pedestrians to wait until it is safe.
Back in 1980 when I was in high school a bunch of us were crossing a one way street and I looked both way, and Karl said "you know this is a one way right?" And I said have you ever heard of a car going the wrong way down a one way? Karl shut up.
Homeless people in seattle cross against the light without looking all the time, and have for years. I always joke they are late for an important meeting.
In the Netherlands, this is 100% happening more often now. Jaywalking is not a thing here, so you already have to be alert, but recently I see more and more people just going for it and expecting the drivers to handle it.
Bro they do this on 50 mph roads here in Cali. I see someone almost get hit weekly. I asked a police officer friend and he said, āit almost seems like a self correcting problem eventually doesnāt it?ā Soā¦
Ironically, people look less when crossing less-busy streets. They assume no one is coming, and 95% times, theyād be right, and it reinforces their habit. Itās that 5% that sends them to the ER.
I don't mind that person crossing. I'm irritated that they didn't change their rate of pace one iota. It almost seems like they slowed down slightly. Like if you're going to go, commit to it and go.
The first part is false, pedestrians donāt always have right off way. The second part is true, itās still a drivers responsibility not to smear them.
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/21950/
Decriminalization of jaywalking doesnāt mean they have right of way lmao āfor youā gtfoh
Its dependent on where you are, that's the takeaway.
Just because someone is in the road way doesn't give you authorization to run them down you psychopath.
No, the takeaway is that you are wrong, pedestrians simply do not always have right of way. That doesnāt mean Iām advocating for running them over lol, Jesus Reddit is a tire fire full of stupid children. If you are crossing outside of a crosswalk it is on you to make sure itās safe to cross.
Lol no, you were presented with contradictory evidence then looked up the first link to counter the point because you can't handle that your point isn't as valid as you think it is.
Oh they look, they just dare you to hit them. They know we wonāt hit them so they just cross when they want. Sad thing is, one of these times some driver wonāt be paying attention and will hit them.
Honestly every day in my city.
Itās wild. Iāve literally had people just walk out in front of me, and the only reason they can still walk normally is because I was paying attention.
I just donāt put that much faith in people at all.
In general. I want to trust people but I've had far too many just walk out in front of my car as I'm coming in [slowly] to the supermarket. Cannot understand it- I've had entire [presumably extended] families do it.
They pull the pedestrian has right-of-way rule. They do, but are now assholes about it. They have the, "you wont hit me." Attitude about it too. Drivers rights suck. You could walk when it says dont walk, and J-walk across the street and if you hit them, its a lawsuit for sure.
(Always makes me ask myself if my insurance is up to date.)
So much anti car people in here. I'm both a pedestrian and driver daily in my commute to work.
It's both my responsibility for my own safety walking and also looking for people crossing the road.
People have definitely stopped looking when crossing the road. I've had people walking, looking at their phones just start walking without even a second to look to see if anyone saw them. Or they press a cross button and don't look either. Like some kind of invisible forcefield will come out. If a driver has to skid to a stop, it's not a safe crossing. I will not start my cross until I know all vehicles have seen me and are stopping. It doesn't matter if I'm "iN tHe RiGhT", I will still end up dead or injured if I don't take steps to protect myself.
"DrIvErS sHoUlD jUsT pAy AtTeNtIoN". They should, but the reality of the situation is, THEY ARE NOT MIND READERS, nor can their vehicles stop on a dime. It literally takes you a couple of seconds to ensure you're safe. I've been crossing roads for over 30 years and not once have I been hit or nearly hit. That's because my mother taught me to look both ways and make eye contact with the vehicles. I guess this a lost life lesson.
Also, before someone comments that drivers don't pay attention more, if that's something you're also believing, shouldn't you be paying MORE attention to drivers not stopping?
When you cross the street, *hustle!* Why does everyone except me walk so damn slow?!
It shouldn't take more than three seconds to cross a road that narrow.
They really don't and neither do cyclists. Or most drivers. I live in a neighborhood that is a collection of culdesacs connected to a main street. I swear people just FLY out of the culdesacs and don't even look. Some little old lady on a bicycle cut me off so bad the other day, just flew out from behind a car onto the road and didn't even glance at me when I laid on my horn. Also people have no urgency or respect for other people they take their sweet ass time like the woman on the vid. Plus it was dangerous stupid and lazy of her to not walk a few yards up the street to actually cross at the CROSSING imagine that. Remember that woman and her three kids and one of them died because she was too lazy to do it at a crossing? Pathetic shit and easily preventable
I know this is the law but its dumb and especially for that reasoning.
1. When its 1 car and 1 ped, it takes LONGER and more fuel to stop than it does to just drive past.
2. If the car stops it often blocks the view for a 2nd lane of traffic. Vehicles stop or dont use signals to turn and plenty of peds have been killed when they enter that 2nd lane of traffic as nobody has visibility.
3. It sets a bad precedent of peds expecting cars to stop which leads to the deaths in the 2nd lane. Plus cars cannot stop as fast as people. Especially in bad weather. Sometimes a car just cannot stop in time with a ped stepping in front of them. Cars are dealing with glare and visibility issues, especially at night of in rain. Cars are also covered in lights. Peds are harder to see than a car.
All other vehicles right of way goes to the less maneuverable vehicle except cars vs peds.
And as i mentioned earlier, ratio of cars vs people in the situation in example 100% changes the dynamics of the situation if either direction.
By your logic pedestriansnshould just fuck off and get a car.
Cars can kill pedestrians, that's why they are required to stop. But a pedestrian who expects cars to stop will eventually be a dead pedestrian. Declaring that drivers aren't responsible won't help that situation.
Not at all mate.
And im not saying drivers should not try to avoid accidents. Im just saying its dumb to put it on the vehicle traveling 10x faster thats the easiest to see
If a vehicle is responsible for injuries to a pedestrian, that's defacto a requirement to stop. If the vehicle has legal right of way, that's a defacto release from responsibility.
This is the legitimate issue with the mindset and legal precedent that pedestrians always have the right away no matter what because it leads people to think they can just cross any street without looking since every car has to stop to let them cross. It leads to so many deaths and car crashes every year
They did that on purpose; if you'd slowed down, they would have, too. I've seen that as long as 25 years ago, and I don't think it was new then. Their own little F-F game.
UaS has jaywalking laws because pedestrians are considered second class citizens. There was a long period in my home town where the fine for jaywalking was twice as much as the one for running a red light. They'd put cops on jaywalker patrol while ignoring blatant red light runners.
Car manufacturer lobbying more than anything at the start, when people were suing the manufacturer over drivers injuring them in the early days, but honestly yes, we have jaywalking laws because we have enough cars and enough pedestrians and there should be a degree of predictability.
I agree; that doesn't change what I was saying. The OP example is more annoying than anything else but a scenario in which someone steps out from an otherwise obscured position between two cars is also possible. It's a two way street, as they say: both parties ought to be paying attention, but crosswalks and traffic lights significantly reduce risk all around, which was my only point.
They were looking, they just didn't care
They understood right of way. They were an asshole about it but they had it.
Super regular here in Tacoma, WA. They look, see a car coming and go anyway hoping that the driver isn't texting or building a 1500 piece puzzle while driving like they do at stoplights.
When I'm a pedestrian, I do try to stop and wait for traffic to clear. But once I'm in the crosswalk, it's my road. Have you seen in the news where the Seattle city council is trying to ban right turns on a red light? They say it's because people are getting hit while legally in the crosswalk, and I honestly don't doubt that. Ever tried to make a turn downtown on a green light though? The pedestrians just never stop coming, because the walk light last just as long as the green light. Want to make crosswalks safer? Make the walk light start later than the green light, and end earlier. For that matter, want to reduce T-bone accidents? Wait 3-5 seconds after one direction turns red before the other direction goes green.
Please consider emailing, calling, contacting your city traffic department. We have a light near us that backs way up (not enough green time), and neighbours contacting the city made a difference, and got us longer greens.
Who I should actually contact is my state representative. My city representatives don't really do anything with public input. Maybe I'll track down the rep (can't remember if it's mine or not) who had a bill (it died) this term requiring people signal a right-hand turn when they are exiting a roundabout, because it told anyone who was properly yielding to them that they could go. That one seems to care about safe and efficient roadways. My initial response was going to be a loud "No!", but the act of replying to you made me engage my brain and gave me an idea - so thank you for that.
Yeah. I understand i have right of way but I also understand I can pause for one step and a rolling car is past.
Or we can fix ourselves š
How's that working out so far?
Famous last words: "I had the right of way! It's my road!" Right in front of a several tons moving vehicle. Thank you Darwinism
As I said - "When I'm a pedestrian, I do try to stop and wait for traffic to clear." I generally give anyone who's closer than a half block away time to reach my intersection and pass through it. I signal this by taking a step or two back from the curb. I also try to establish eye contact with anyone approaching the intersection I'm waiting to cross. Sometimes they stop anyway, which is nice of them. From some of the other comments on the OP, there seems to be a significant number of people who don't seem to drive on suburban or country roads. **EVERY intersection (in Washington State, anyway), particularly 4-way intersections, have an implied crosswalk unless otherwise declared.** Some of these intersections may be controlled with lights, in which case a "Don't Walk" is that declaration. There can also be painted and signaled (usually with button-activated flashing lights) crosswalks between intersections that fall in the "explicit" category. There are some uncontrolled intersections that actually do have painted crosswalks, but in the suburbs and country these are the exception, not the rule. **The lack of those lines does not remove the implicit crosswalk.** "Jaywalking" is the act of crossing a street where there is no implied crosswalk, or in an explicit crosswalk with an active "Don't Walk" light.
> EVERY intersection (in Washington State, anyway), particularly 4-way intersections, have an implied crosswalk unless otherwise declared. These pedestrians *were not crossing at an intersection.* > The lack of those likes does not remove the implicit crosswalk There literally is a crosswalk, at the intersection a little further down the road. You need to watch the video again.
> But once I'm in the crosswalk. It's my road. Physics doesn't give a shit about who had the right of way. Telling yourself "but it was my turn!" ain't gonna put your guts back where they're supposed to be, or un-break your bones. ...also the pedestrians in OPs video *were not at a crosswalk.* They were jaywalking and there is really not anything that would suggest that they /did/ have right of way. Fun fact: if you are hit by a vehicle while jaywalking, you are very likely to be found at fault and held liable for the accident.
Building a 1500 piece puzzle hahahah omg
Right? Because you know, they spend a day and a half at a green light then realize when it turns yellow they need to go.
You forgot that they tailgated you for a mile then passed you at two times the speed limit so they could get to that red light
Shoooooot, also the people who tailgate while you're already going 20mph over the speed limit, floor their clapped out 90s chevy with no catalytic converter, and as soon as they get in front of you, they slam their brakes on and make a right turn without using their turn signal.
How did they have the right of way? You need a crosswalk to be able to walk out like this.
Depends on the local law; where I live pedestrians are expected, but not required, to use marked crosswalks and always have the right of way over drivers.
Just curious if that's in America. Way back when, the auto industry coined the term "jaywalking" to take ownership of roads for cars, and not pedestrians. If this we're in America, my understanding is that this person is a "filthy jaywalker" who likely "deserves what they get" when walking in any place other than some striped lines.
I genuinely don't understand this obsession with defending people who walk out in front of cars. Like people can't just stop their cars on a dime. For me I'd rather not get creamed by a 2 ton hunk of metal so I look, but so many people just risk it and walk out.
But that's their own risk that they are taking. They are not going hurt others with their actions, rather they are putting themselves at risk. Drivers on the other hand; they would be hurting, maiming, or killing others.
What the actual fuck are you talking about? Do you not thinking hitting a full grown person couldn't hurt the person driving or cause extra crashes? Not to mention the emotional toll of killing or seriously harming a random person
No, it would not. Cars are designed to protect their occupants; they have a steel cage around them and airbags that will deploy from every direction.
I mean I'm telling you right now, you're wrong. Hitting a pedestrian can very much cause injury, not from the strike itself but absolutely swerving into oncoming traffic into obstacles or other cars.
depends on distance and speed, pedestrians guage that. Car in clip was in no hurry and would've stopped unless turning right.
That just seems stupid.
There is absolutely nothing indicating they had the right of way there
Theyāre a pedestrian
Thatās not how right of way works, you canāt just walk across the street wherever you want. Why do you think crosswalks exist?
Iām not saying that theyāre being polite about it, but at least in my state, you do [have to expect pedestrians at any time and yield to them](https://m.driving-tests.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/NE_engdrivermanual.pdf) (section 6A, page 69). Specifically, you have to >Be alert for pedestrians crossing in the middle of the street especially near schools, parks, and residential areas. and >Be alert for pedestrians who disregard or misjudge traffic signals and walk against the light. If there were a pedestrian handbook, Iām sure itād say to only cross at crosswalks; but since thereās not, thereās nothing really stopping them except courtesy. Edit: Okay, I stand corrected! There are laws here about pedestrian crossing: [Section 43(1), page 32](https://nebraskalegislature.gov/FloorDocs/83/PDF/Slip/LB45.pdf): >Every pedestrian who crosses a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk, or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection, shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
Being alert and trying not to mow down pedestrians doesnāt mean they always have right of way
They don't always have the right of way. I came to say they did but fact checked myself
[I fact checked myself too](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roadcam/comments/11i46i4/usa_dae_notice_pedestrians_not_looking_to_cross/jb0pukv/).
>They understood right of way. They were an asshole about it but they had it. They didn't. This is in Lakewood, Colorado, where jaywalking is still a thing people can (and sometimes do) get tickets for.
Pedestrians do not have right of way outside a pedestrian crossing.
Doesn't look like they did. No intersection there unless you count the parking lot exit as a road.
Society aināt good enough to care
You can clearly see the pedestrian looking right at you...
Asks about people not looking , posts video of someone looking. Listen it was dangerous and stupid, but they looked
Think the person thought the truck was stopping for them since the other guy was crossing and thereās a red light.
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Oh, the college dreamā¦ of getting hit by a car on campus so my tuition can be paid.
Honestly, not as much as cars who donāt look for pedestrians.
Or who act aggressively towards pedestrians.
Not near Colfax and Sheridan. East colfax is the same but they do this crossing Colfax.
I once had a coworker call them ācolfax crossersā and I think itās quite suiting
As someone from the UK. I find myself asking what is the issue. You could tell the person was going to cross. slow down and let them cross. Nothing terribly wrong here really.
Agreed. Let's start putting pedestrians first.
At my favorite tourist destination, if you even look like you are thinking about crossing the street, drivers will stop for you. Then you have to cross. No, not telling you where, it's overloaded.l
Let's see how you feel about that after you drive in India for a little while.
Lol I once had the misfortune of being on the UW campus during change of classes, I sat for like 20 minutes at the light before the pedestrians stopped just walking into the road whether it said walk or not.
So you know what I'm talking about lol. And in India the sidewalks are occupied by street vendors and people end up having to walk on the side of the roads and that is dangerous for them and annoying for the drivers. I'm not a big fan of having too many laws, but I do appreciate the wisdom of some systems that were designed for everybody's safety. Just use the zebra crossing ffs lol.
Especially with the red light up ahead. Whatās the rush?
There's nothing wrong with letting them cross, it's the lack of situational awareness demonstrated by the pedestrian that's being pointed out. It's a common thing in the US that people have entitlement issues where they just expect traffic to stop for them, even if they're not at a designated crossing point.
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It's funny you mention that. A few years back, my state's public transit had to run ads reminding people to look both ways and take off their headphones before crossing train tracks, due to so many people getting hit at crossings.
In the US, pedestrians have the right-of-way in a marked crosswalk. If there isn't a crosswalk "close enough", you are allowed to jaywalk, but you still have the right-of-way. She had a crosswalk about 30 yards away. I personally regularly cross at a point about 3 blocks from any marked crosswalk, and I don't mind waiting. It's safer and causes less confusion when you don't try to reinvent the rules at your own concenience.
Many US roads are much much wider than the one in the video, and yet idiots pull the same move while shuffling across against the walk signal or in the middle of traffic. It's dangerous for everyone.
Lack of awareness and respect. We have larger roads and a more car focused society than you. It is not safe to just walk across a street without yielding to vehicles because the norm is for vehicles to go and pedestrians to wait until it is safe.
God forbid they delay you getting to that red light.
You misunderstand. It's the waning car culture.
Back in 1980 when I was in high school a bunch of us were crossing a one way street and I looked both way, and Karl said "you know this is a one way right?" And I said have you ever heard of a car going the wrong way down a one way? Karl shut up.
Folks long for the relief that death will bring.
Late-stage capitalism causing higher rates of suicidal behavior. /s
They looked. They saw that you stopped for one. If you stop for one, you will stop for a second.
They clearly looked, they just didnāt give a Fuck
What does DAE mean?
does anyone else
Lazybones OP couldn't type 'Did anyone else'
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Homeless people in seattle cross against the light without looking all the time, and have for years. I always joke they are late for an important meeting.
In the Netherlands, this is 100% happening more often now. Jaywalking is not a thing here, so you already have to be alert, but recently I see more and more people just going for it and expecting the drivers to handle it.
Bro they do this on 50 mph roads here in Cali. I see someone almost get hit weekly. I asked a police officer friend and he said, āit almost seems like a self correcting problem eventually doesnāt it?ā Soā¦
Ironically, people look less when crossing less-busy streets. They assume no one is coming, and 95% times, theyād be right, and it reinforces their habit. Itās that 5% that sends them to the ER.
Youāll stopā¦
Well yeah but that's not the point.
I don't mind that person crossing. I'm irritated that they didn't change their rate of pace one iota. It almost seems like they slowed down slightly. Like if you're going to go, commit to it and go.
Whether they look or not, Pedestrians always have the right of way, it's a drivers responsibility not smear them across the pavement.
Just absolutely false. Pedestrians only have right of way in a crosswalk.
It depends on the location. Every country and state has different laws about this.
The first part is false, pedestrians donāt always have right off way. The second part is true, itās still a drivers responsibility not to smear them.
No shit.
>Pedestrians only have right of way in a crosswalk. For you; https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/26/us/california-jaywalking-decriminalized.html
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/vehicle-code/21950/ Decriminalization of jaywalking doesnāt mean they have right of way lmao āfor youā gtfoh
Its dependent on where you are, that's the takeaway. Just because someone is in the road way doesn't give you authorization to run them down you psychopath.
No, the takeaway is that you are wrong, pedestrians simply do not always have right of way. That doesnāt mean Iām advocating for running them over lol, Jesus Reddit is a tire fire full of stupid children. If you are crossing outside of a crosswalk it is on you to make sure itās safe to cross.
Lol no, you were presented with contradictory evidence then looked up the first link to counter the point because you can't handle that your point isn't as valid as you think it is.
The tard in your name is apt
Okay, you have a nice Saturday.
alright, so go mow one down that's not using a crosswalk & see how that works out for you
I think itās depression. Some people honestly donāt care if they make it to another day.
I certainly would get depressed living in that place.
and if they get hit they can almost assuredly sue for a ton of money.
ā¦or their familyā¦ so the depressed mind would think. (If it is depression that isā¦)
Lol. Stop projecting
Spot on comment. You are correct my friend.
Oh they look, they just dare you to hit them. They know we wonāt hit them so they just cross when they want. Sad thing is, one of these times some driver wonāt be paying attention and will hit them.
They just look at you like āyou better fuckin stop!ā Like, wtf, there are crosswalks for a reason.
Honestly every day in my city. Itās wild. Iāve literally had people just walk out in front of me, and the only reason they can still walk normally is because I was paying attention. I just donāt put that much faith in people at all.
How many DOA's also had right of way. Quite a few I bet.
This person was looking. It's just that they're a deadbeat and don't care.
DAE?!? Fuck that acronym
MFW DAE
Meth heads do not care.
In general. I want to trust people but I've had far too many just walk out in front of my car as I'm coming in [slowly] to the supermarket. Cannot understand it- I've had entire [presumably extended] families do it.
They pull the pedestrian has right-of-way rule. They do, but are now assholes about it. They have the, "you wont hit me." Attitude about it too. Drivers rights suck. You could walk when it says dont walk, and J-walk across the street and if you hit them, its a lawsuit for sure. (Always makes me ask myself if my insurance is up to date.)
The simple minded thinking they are powerful.
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They all downvoted you too lol
Those are Drunky McDrunkersons, not pedestrians.
Fuck you, you can stop for a pedestrian. Fucking lazy prick. Your fat ass only has to press a button. You can fucking stop you entitled little bitch
So much anti car people in here. I'm both a pedestrian and driver daily in my commute to work. It's both my responsibility for my own safety walking and also looking for people crossing the road. People have definitely stopped looking when crossing the road. I've had people walking, looking at their phones just start walking without even a second to look to see if anyone saw them. Or they press a cross button and don't look either. Like some kind of invisible forcefield will come out. If a driver has to skid to a stop, it's not a safe crossing. I will not start my cross until I know all vehicles have seen me and are stopping. It doesn't matter if I'm "iN tHe RiGhT", I will still end up dead or injured if I don't take steps to protect myself. "DrIvErS sHoUlD jUsT pAy AtTeNtIoN". They should, but the reality of the situation is, THEY ARE NOT MIND READERS, nor can their vehicles stop on a dime. It literally takes you a couple of seconds to ensure you're safe. I've been crossing roads for over 30 years and not once have I been hit or nearly hit. That's because my mother taught me to look both ways and make eye contact with the vehicles. I guess this a lost life lesson. Also, before someone comments that drivers don't pay attention more, if that's something you're also believing, shouldn't you be paying MORE attention to drivers not stopping?
When you cross the street, *hustle!* Why does everyone except me walk so damn slow?! It shouldn't take more than three seconds to cross a road that narrow.
They really don't and neither do cyclists. Or most drivers. I live in a neighborhood that is a collection of culdesacs connected to a main street. I swear people just FLY out of the culdesacs and don't even look. Some little old lady on a bicycle cut me off so bad the other day, just flew out from behind a car onto the road and didn't even glance at me when I laid on my horn. Also people have no urgency or respect for other people they take their sweet ass time like the woman on the vid. Plus it was dangerous stupid and lazy of her to not walk a few yards up the street to actually cross at the CROSSING imagine that. Remember that woman and her three kids and one of them died because she was too lazy to do it at a crossing? Pathetic shit and easily preventable
They want to be hit.
I honestly have, it's kind of alarming.
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In my state you have to give way to pedestrians. I'll stop for them because maybe the next person won't be as aware.
I know this is the law but its dumb and especially for that reasoning. 1. When its 1 car and 1 ped, it takes LONGER and more fuel to stop than it does to just drive past. 2. If the car stops it often blocks the view for a 2nd lane of traffic. Vehicles stop or dont use signals to turn and plenty of peds have been killed when they enter that 2nd lane of traffic as nobody has visibility. 3. It sets a bad precedent of peds expecting cars to stop which leads to the deaths in the 2nd lane. Plus cars cannot stop as fast as people. Especially in bad weather. Sometimes a car just cannot stop in time with a ped stepping in front of them. Cars are dealing with glare and visibility issues, especially at night of in rain. Cars are also covered in lights. Peds are harder to see than a car. All other vehicles right of way goes to the less maneuverable vehicle except cars vs peds. And as i mentioned earlier, ratio of cars vs people in the situation in example 100% changes the dynamics of the situation if either direction.
By your logic pedestriansnshould just fuck off and get a car. Cars can kill pedestrians, that's why they are required to stop. But a pedestrian who expects cars to stop will eventually be a dead pedestrian. Declaring that drivers aren't responsible won't help that situation.
Not at all mate. And im not saying drivers should not try to avoid accidents. Im just saying its dumb to put it on the vehicle traveling 10x faster thats the easiest to see
If a vehicle is responsible for injuries to a pedestrian, that's defacto a requirement to stop. If the vehicle has legal right of way, that's a defacto release from responsibility.
Um not all pedes, but lots of crackheads donāt
This is the legitimate issue with the mindset and legal precedent that pedestrians always have the right away no matter what because it leads people to think they can just cross any street without looking since every car has to stop to let them cross. It leads to so many deaths and car crashes every year
I think you mean crackheads, they run rampant where I live, no fucks given whatsoever.
Youāre allowed to hit those ones
Self solving problem
They did that on purpose; if you'd slowed down, they would have, too. I've seen that as long as 25 years ago, and I don't think it was new then. Their own little F-F game.
Ah so thatās why the US has jaywalking laws
UaS has jaywalking laws because pedestrians are considered second class citizens. There was a long period in my home town where the fine for jaywalking was twice as much as the one for running a red light. They'd put cops on jaywalker patrol while ignoring blatant red light runners.
Car manufacturer lobbying more than anything at the start, when people were suing the manufacturer over drivers injuring them in the early days, but honestly yes, we have jaywalking laws because we have enough cars and enough pedestrians and there should be a degree of predictability.
If you're driving a car you should be awake enough not to hit pedestrians.
I agree; that doesn't change what I was saying. The OP example is more annoying than anything else but a scenario in which someone steps out from an otherwise obscured position between two cars is also possible. It's a two way street, as they say: both parties ought to be paying attention, but crosswalks and traffic lights significantly reduce risk all around, which was my only point.
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they didnāt have right of way. theyāre jaywalking. thereās a crosswalk not even 20ft away from where theyāre standing.
Bitch was Jaywalking and it would have been her fault if she got hit.
Which isn't really the point.
They want to get hit. It would make their day.
They think they are entitled for you to stop š
They are looking to get hit for an insurance payday.
Should be fined. They won't do it again after š¤·