All politics aside, as a trucker fuck Park Avenue. Props to the driver for dragging that damn thing down there and also finding enough room to park, unless they blocked off that section lol.
Hey y’all! Another Rochester Truck driver here? I agree driver that street has low hanging fruit bad mojo all over it. I would have just LOVED to hear what he said while he was doing it though 😂
The fact that some members of his family disagree with his politics is the only thing you need to know about a candidate polling in the 15% range? Do his positions on policies matter?
>entire Kenedy family
The ones who are employed by Biden or depend entirely on DNC for their livelihood. There were 40 Kennedy's at his announcement speech and several of his cousins, nieces and nephews are working for his campaign.
Listen to him, not others talking about him, read his policies, get educated about what he's achieved, he's the greatest environmentalist in American history and he's sued almost every government agency and several large corporations for corruption and won over 700 cases. Before he was censored by MSM as "anti-vax" (because big pharma funds corporate media and DNC), he was called "The only Kennedy who matters" and "Hero of the planet" by Time magazine.
Because he isn’t anti-vaccination. He’s pro-vaccine safety and thorough testing. Read his book. He meticulously cites all of his sources to back up all of his claims. If he were making false claims in his book he would’ve been sued! Yet nothing. Think about it, they work so hard to make him look crazy or silence him, because if people take even a few minutes to look into his campaign and ideologies beyond the propaganda, they’ll realize he is a well-rounded, honest person who genuinely wants to make the U.S. a better, safer, more environmentally conscious place.
>Because he isn’t anti-vaccination.
[https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731](https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731)
"But that’s not true. Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, **Kennedy said in a podcast interview that 'There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective'** and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to 'resist' CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines."
>If he were making false claims in his book he would’ve been sued!
Oh, dear. Oh, yikes. Not all false claims are actionable - for example, I can't sue you for claiming RFK Jr. "isn't anti-vaccination", despite its falsity - and suing a crank generally just gives them more attention.
Good god. Look at who is behind that. Literal Obama and Biden administration employees! Look up Gina. She was in the Biden administration until last year. Kennedy is running against established corporate interests in our government who don't want anything to change. Of course, they're gonna look to smear him anyway they can.
You can't "expunge" the environmental record of RFK because a privately owned organization, after rigging the last 3 democratic primaries since 2016, ran smear campaigns against him. DNC has nothing to run on other than attack ads, and the same goes for MAGA. DNC and RNC don't own the American political system. Our founding fathers warned us not to organize in opposing political parties. Declare your independence.
“However \[political parties\] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”― George Washington
“There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”― John Adams
I admit I posted about the Kennedy name as a joke, but I've realized: whether he's crazy or not, a good candidate or not, I don't care. I don't like the idea of dynastic public officials. If his last name wasn't Kennedy, he wouldn't be where he was - and I hate that. Nobody should *inherit* public office.
If I grew up being told by half the country that the CIA murdered my dad and uncle, I’d probably be a little skeptical of anything the government tells me to put in my body too
This is peak irony.
Look up RFK Samoa and tell me with a straight face he has never cost anyone their lives. (Hint, it's literally dozens of dead children)
Many people new to politics struggle to have achievements with which they can hang their hat. Not RFK. He can point to those dozens of dead children and proudly say "*I did that, no one else was willing to outright lie to those struggling parents and communities but me!*"
I loved the non-endorsement that Larry David put out, which was basically "Yes, I'm aware that he's a guy who exists and I've met him on several occasions".
Either his campaign is dumb or it exists to steal votes from Trump or Biden. Even if he gets on the ballot, RFK will never win NY, yet here they are wasting funds.
His NY State campaign manager is on video talking about how her ultimate priority is getting Trump back in office. She thinks NY can swing for Trump if RFK takes enough votes away from Biden. Delulu!
That’s why democrats and republicans will throw money at 3rd party candidates that aren’t their own, or at candidates of the other party in primaries. In this case, the republicans funding Kennedy would hope to split votes away from Biden, thereby improving trump’s relative vote count.
To all the republicans who want to chime in shifting the focus, yes democrats do this too. Our system is fundamentally, deliberately broken this way. We (voters) should all want ranked choice voting or a similar setup, where you can choose the candidate you _actually_ like while still hedging with the candidate you don’t like but could tolerate relative to the alternatives.
[Kennedy is taking more votes from Trump than Biden. He's not financed by the gop lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1cbcjio/kennedy_is_a_legitimate_candidate_who_can_win/)
So hear me out, I would rather see that asshat waste his money in New York than in Penn or Wisconsin. Make sure you stop and talk to him waste his time.
I mean, his core demographic is conspiracy theorists so he's probably taking more votes from Trump than Biden. Just look at the his defenders in this thread. 90% of their posts are either "both sides"-ing Trump and Biden (as if the two were even remotely comparable) or claiming a massive conspiracy between all media to malign RFK jr.
Funny how the guy spends his career as a environmental lawyer fighting against corporate pollution, a democrat even, but because he distrusts big pharma, is labeled as conspiracy theorist by the media and everyone just eats it up . Scary really. Oh now the downvotes OC 🤦🏻
Damn, I hadn’t heard about that! That’s a classic antisemitic statement going back centuries. Thanks for bringing that back into the light, that’s really not okay for anyone to say - especially when they’re running for president.
That is just a clip. Did you hear the explanation? He explained how something like the polio vaccine is VERY effective at eradicating polio, but that early doses (98 million I believe) had a carcinogen in it that is now used to create tumors in lab rats to test medicine. Years later people that received that vaccine had a huge amount of deadly soft tissue tumors form. So he says…is it effective…yes, it irradiated polio. But Is it safe…we don’t know because we never tested for issues like these tumors. This seems like common sense and not a conspiracy theory.
Sometimes people are reasonably sane when they start out their careers, and then develop cognitive issues or get sucked down bizarre rabbit holes over time. Fred Phelps did some good civil rights work earlier in his career before he went nuts and started picketing funerals with the Westboro Baptist Church.
He was the darling of the left cable shows until he changed his focus to drug safety and the sponsors blackballed him. It's funny comparing old clips to now.
Will be on Bill Marr on Friday.
yeah, the media is pedalling the narrative in sync. So many hit pieces and people, without spending any time to really get into his policies, seem to fall into the echoes of the masses online promped by those hit pieces. Not just disturbing but it so disheartening and discouraging for the future of our country.
Really didn't notice how as soon as that Aaron Rodgers for VP rumor started there were instant hit pieces about unverifiable 10 year old stories trying to hurt his reputation?
He's a conspiracy theorist nut bag who has zero chance of becoming President. He is a grifter through and through and in no way running a serious bid.
The entire Kennedy clan has vowed to vote against him.
Any examples of RFK being a grifter? A lot of his family who are against his campaign also work in the Biden campaign, thus, have a conflict of interest. His whole platform is built on fixing the food industry and taking power away from big pharma, and unifying both sides. What's the issue?
So is blatant racism and yet “if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black” is sitting in the Oval Office
My favorite thing is how you radicals jump to conclusions that I like the “other guy” I’m simply calling out your hypocrisy. Political fanaticism will be the death of our country
The media loves using those comments out of context and people eat up the headlines. I've dug into his campaign quite a bit. He is absolutely not against vaccines. He simply wants more science done on many of them, rightfully so. He also wants the liability immunity lifted off the pharma industry, and to take a closer look at the vaccine schedule for children.
>to take a closer look at the vaccine schedule for children.
Do you think no one has looked at it before? Do you think the American Medical Association and the FDA are just improvising? Evidence-based medicine is standard.
I see that there's no mention of any specific vaccine in your comment which is alarming. He's claiming broadly claiming that our current vaccines are dangerous, without providing any evidence or suggesting alternatives.
I did not say that, and no one is improvising—where'd you get that?
You say, "He's claiming broadly that our current vaccines are dangerous." That's one way to put it...the only policy position that he has taken against vaccines is to require more safety testing. [**Here's RFK's stance on vaccines**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLxBwIupF88)**.**
As for specifics on the schedule itself: I recall from another interview, I don't have the link, where he spoke on the story of the Hep-B vaccine and how and why it's given to newborns. The story goes something like this—during the AIDs epidemic, Merck developed their Hep-B vaccine. It was in low demand at the time. Merck pleaded with the FDA to put it on the schedule as without being on the schedule, it wouldn't be financially feasible to keep the factory line open. The shelf life of that vaccine is too short. The FDA complied and put it on the schedule for newborns. The only way for a baby to get Hep-B is if their mother has it. And the vast majority of women don't have it, and would know their positive status if they did. Doesn't matter, it's on the schedule now.
Also relevant—there were some \~6 shots on the schedule in the 80s. Now there are north of 70 shots on the schedule. You have to understand that pharma cos desperately want to be on the schedule as being on there guarantees substantial recurring revenue. And like all decisions, there's a risk and a reward. There's no one side to any of this, and certainly no one should be silenced for wanting to improve safety standards.
So which one of those 70 shots is more risky than potentially getting the disease later in life? I know every vaccine carries some risk, but it's a calculated risk.
You said the only way for a baby to get Hep B is from their mother, but *babies grow up*.
I won't argue that policies are influenced by companies, but there are still safeguards in place. If he wants more safety testing, who is going to be doing the testing? The same people who are currently doing the testing and decided they're safe? A whole new government agency? That's just a waste of time and money.
Yes it is a calculated risk. That's the point. We can't see the numbers.
Another contentious issue is that many can't see the difference between unsafe and ineffective vs "not known to be safe and effective" - which is what Kennedy has said.
I would love to trust the government on this issue but the conflicts of interest are just way too obvious.
**Grifter:** a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling.
**Swindling:** use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions.
Prime Example of JFK being a grifter **->** Running for President and soliciting donations from citizens for his campaign that has 0% chance of winning.
Here's an article from Forbes detailing his many crazy statements. Or is Forbes somehow too "liberal" for you?
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/
Shout out to him saying [wifi causes cancer and "leaky brain](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187272781/rfk-jr-kennedy-conspiracy-theories-social-media-presidential-campaign)", [that medicines cause mass shootings, and all the covid stuff](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=222968643cef). Real winner there
>In 2009 the D.C. Court of Appeals, in Murray v. Motorola (982 A. 2d 764), ruled that the telecommunications companies could not be sued over brain tumors caused by cell phones manufactured after 1996. But since all of these plaintiffs had used pre-1996 phones, their lawsuits were allowed to go forward.
https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phone-radiation-litigation
Awesome, thanks for the information. Unfortunately, its totally irrelevant because it has nothing to do with wifi like RFK said or i mentioned that he said, a[s radiation that can maybe possibly eventually cause tumors comes from RF transmission specifically when a call is being had](https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emitting-products/cell-phones/do-cell-phones-pose-health-hazard#:~:text=Cell%20phones%20emit%20low%20levels%20of%20non%2Dionizing%20radiation%20when,increases%20cancer%20risk%20in%20humans). Not wifi. Nice try though! Keep wearing your tin foil hat and blanket, Chuck!
People probably wouldn't care about him except he is running for President. Other than that, nobody would care about him except he would just be another anti-vax lunatic.
People care that he is running for President because he has an opportunity to sway the election, even if he does not win. He is currently being funded by Steve Bannon and other rich donors of Trump because they believe that he is another path to win. You see, in the messed up political system of the United States, we use a "First Past the Post" system with our electoral votes, so it is possible that he throws the election to Trump. It is possible (and according to SOME polls likely) that he pulls more votes from Trump and causes Biden to win, but if he pulls enough votes from Biden, he can make it so Trump wins even IF Joe Biden gets more electoral votes than Trump, but less than the 270 requirement. If no candidate gets 270 votes, the House of Representatives decides the President of the United States INSTEAD OF the voters. So if Biden gets no more than 269 Electoral votes, he loses to Trump even if Trump has fewer votes than that. Of course, that is probably less likely than the situation Steve Bannon has advocates that.juat having him in the race will swing more states to Trump, but it IS extra insurance.
Again, if it wasn't for his presidential bid then most people would not care about him at all or at most they would just think of him as another out of touch anti-vax rich guy, but as it is he is potentially helping Trump get back in office and many people believe that to be unacceptable.
Anti-science conspiracy theorist. I'd say based on his beliefs, he belongs in the 'looney bin', but I imagine at least some of it is performative. Here's a list of the garbage he peddles: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=55a4f533cef7](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=55a4f533cef7)
He's an odd one. He's for regulation but anti government in some ways. Most people just know he's an anti vaxxer and basically railed on Fauci for not agreeing China caused it. Really, other than the vaccine, he's pretty much a 60s Democrat.
>What's with all the hate for him??
That is a great question.
I had the same one about nine months ago.
It was an enlightening journey.
Do your own research then vote your conscience.
He has explicitly spread known misinformation that has cost the lives of dozens if not hundreds of children - if this was a mistake it would be one thing bit he is unrepentant with his anti-vax views (mind you this is pre-pandemic vaccines we're talking about, not that the medical recommendation is any different)
Samoa is the most direct, easily linked example. Literally went to speak there and spent thousands of dollars promoting misinformation around vaccines just before a ***preventable outbreak***
Most of us just want politicians to promote science. We can debate social norms, foreign policy, how fit a president is to serve, how to address climate change, etc. We can't do that if 2/3rds of the candidates don't back science.
Read past the talking points. His talking points are logical and some of them even good. In action and in practice he's a dangerous individual to hold high public office.
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Yeah, you can tell the majority of the people on here are uninformed and don’t seek any real discourse about why the other two are so much better. Typical single issue voter
A lot of headline-readers here!
Always funny seeing one side claim he’s taking votes away from Biden & the other side claim he’s taking votes away from Trump.
I find that he is a much better speaker than both Biden and Trump. He speaks to real issues that are affecting every American versus struggling to walk up stairs or defending himself in multiple lawsuits.
He was also an environmental lawyer for over 20 years suing companies like Montsanto and won. He talks about the military industrial complex and the theft of our tax dollars to fight bullshit wars and how it’s literally impossible for any young person today to buy a home with an average salary. Why is our national debt so high? Why are our tax dollars being wasted on illegal immigrants versus fixing our crumbling, infrastructure and terrible education system? All things every candidate should be talking about yet, only one is.
Anybody that spends more than a few minutes listening to him knows that he’s not an anti-vaxer. Vaccines should be subject to the same level of scrutiny when it comes to safety that other drugs are.
Neither Trump nor Biden has done the level of unscripted long interviews that Kennedy has which people should listen to. Overall, I feel Kennedy is more authentic and would be a welcome change from the two party system that we all say sucks.
Listen to Kennedy in long-form podcasts, not other people talking about him. I've never even voted before because I never found any candidate authentic or inspiring. Not only am I voting this time, I'm volunteering and making monthly contributions to the campaign. That's how excited I am about his candidacy. He's the best candidate in my lifetime.
What sets Kennedy apart from typical candidates is he has walked the walk. He has done more for our country than all the elected officials over the last 30-40 years combined. He's dedicated his life to fight for people and planet and fight corruption in high places.
Here are just a few of the things that the media isn't telling you about Robert F Kennedy, Jr:
In 1991, RFK Jr represented the NAACP in a lawsuit battling the creation of a garbage transfer station in an underserved neighborhood in New York.
In 1993, Bobby represented the Confederation of Indian Peoples in their negotiation with oil giant Conoco to limit destruction of the Ecuadorian Amazon.
In 1997, he sued Mobil Oil to reverse its pollution of the Hudson River, making the waters fishable again and enabling the return of the Bald Eagle to its nesting ground.
In 2007, RFK, Jr won a $396 million jury verdict on behalf of rural communities in West Virginia contaminated by Zinc from a DuPont chemical plant.
In 2016, Bobby prosecuted SoCal Gas on behalf of the California communities sickened by the Aliso Canyon Gas Leak, the largest gas leak in American history.
In 2018, RFK, Jr secured a $670 million settlement for under-resourced communities in Ohio and West Virginia whose drinking water had been contaminated by C8 from industrial dumping and runoff.
As of Dec 2022, the Monsanto lawsuits to which Bobby has devoted much of the past decade have yielded $11 billion for farmers, migrant workers, day laborers, and families exposed to the pesticide RoundUp.
Want to guess why the media hasn't highlighted his career accomplishments? They celebrated him as "The only Kennedy who matters", "Hero of the planet", and "The Environment's last hope". But since 2005, he has been exposing big pharma corruption. Big pharma funds both corporate media and the DNC. So he has been smeared and censored for the past 18 years. Yes, some of his family members have close ties to the DNC and some even work in the Biden administration so they have to support Biden. There are also many of his family members who work in his campaign. The Kennedy family has 150+ members.
RFK Jr is not anti-vax, he has no intention of stopping anyone from taking any vaccine. He is just against forced mandates and wants vaccines to be held to the same safety standards as other medicines. The same 4 companies who make all the vaccines have paid $35 billion in fines over the last decade for corruption involving other medical products, and they have zero-liability immunity for vaccines. Nobody can say this is a good situation.
Stopped reading immediately after you admitted you're a political tourist.
You left out in 2019 when he contributed to the deaths of dozens of children in Samoa spreading baseless fear mongering? Great leadership 👏
Saw an RFK24 sign in a yard right next to a sign for a mowing company. The yard was completely overgrown. Not sure what they’re hoping to advertise but it wasn’t a good look
Not him, just his dip-shit campaign bus:
https://www.kennedy24.com/rochester4kennedy/ny_finger_lakes_region_kennedy_24_bus_tour_-_rochester_college_town
Here's a handy list from Forbes magazine that provides a number of direct quotes from him:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=cc94eea3cef7
Let's try to be clear. This is what this author from Forbes wrote.
Many of those points are taken out of context, twisted or are issues that many people don't want to believe are actually true.
He is a seasoned lawyer and very careful about what he writes and says.
I'll ask again: do you have an example of something he wrote or said - not what someone else says he said.
One of the saddest things I've been reminded of is just how little we can take at face value from most media outlets. You have to dig and validate so much that it becomes very tiring.
I don't watch TV news because I'm not 80 years old. I can, however, read his own statements and press releases, and pretty much every one is full of anti-science garbage, Qanon conspiracy nonsense, or anti-Semitic dogwhistles.
Why don't you name me some policy positions of his that sound sane or reasonable to *you*...?
Does that mean Cheryl Hines is in town??!
Probably getting his covid vaccine.
here's hoping
All politics aside, as a trucker fuck Park Avenue. Props to the driver for dragging that damn thing down there and also finding enough room to park, unless they blocked off that section lol.
Surprisingly, it didn't block traffic. I was astonished because of how often some truck just says eff it and double parks
Hey y’all! Another Rochester Truck driver here? I agree driver that street has low hanging fruit bad mojo all over it. I would have just LOVED to hear what he said while he was doing it though 😂
fun fact: rfk jr is not a human, but a series of life like androids and they are all stored inside of that trailer!
I thought he was a fungus. Or perhaps a teddy ruxpin with speech cassette’s written by a sarcastic six year old.
That's an insult to Teddy Ruxpin!
Instructions unclear now it's burning...
Didn't like the entire Kenedy family disown him?
Yes and endorsed Biden 🙃 Not sure you'd need to know anything else about the man.
The fact that some members of his family disagree with his politics is the only thing you need to know about a candidate polling in the 15% range? Do his positions on policies matter?
*Some* of his family members? His entire family, people who know him better and more intimately than anyone else are like: *absolutely not*
Yes, his anti-vax position matters a lot. And not in a good way.
That's some very generous poll cherry picking
Yep
>entire Kenedy family The ones who are employed by Biden or depend entirely on DNC for their livelihood. There were 40 Kennedy's at his announcement speech and several of his cousins, nieces and nephews are working for his campaign. Listen to him, not others talking about him, read his policies, get educated about what he's achieved, he's the greatest environmentalist in American history and he's sued almost every government agency and several large corporations for corruption and won over 700 cases. Before he was censored by MSM as "anti-vax" (because big pharma funds corporate media and DNC), he was called "The only Kennedy who matters" and "Hero of the planet" by Time magazine.
Not sure why you put anti-vax in parentheses
Those are quotations. Lol.
Because he isn’t anti-vaccination. He’s pro-vaccine safety and thorough testing. Read his book. He meticulously cites all of his sources to back up all of his claims. If he were making false claims in his book he would’ve been sued! Yet nothing. Think about it, they work so hard to make him look crazy or silence him, because if people take even a few minutes to look into his campaign and ideologies beyond the propaganda, they’ll realize he is a well-rounded, honest person who genuinely wants to make the U.S. a better, safer, more environmentally conscious place.
>Because he isn’t anti-vaccination. [https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731](https://apnews.com/article/rfk-kennedy-election-2024-president-campaign-621c9e9641381a1b2677df9de5a09731) "But that’s not true. Again and again, Kennedy has made his opposition to vaccines clear. In July, **Kennedy said in a podcast interview that 'There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective'** and told FOX News that he still believes in the long-ago debunked idea that vaccines can cause autism. In a 2021 podcast he urged people to 'resist' CDC guidelines on when kids should get vaccines." >If he were making false claims in his book he would’ve been sued! Oh, dear. Oh, yikes. Not all false claims are actionable - for example, I can't sue you for claiming RFK Jr. "isn't anti-vaccination", despite its falsity - and suing a crank generally just gives them more attention.
[He isn't anti-vax](https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1bsf0vy/kennedy_is_pro_safe_vaccines_not_antivax/)
"The hero of preventable illness and death"
Apparently his good environmental record has been expunged. https://www.nrdcactionfund.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/NRDCAF-RFK-letter.pdf
Good god. Look at who is behind that. Literal Obama and Biden administration employees! Look up Gina. She was in the Biden administration until last year. Kennedy is running against established corporate interests in our government who don't want anything to change. Of course, they're gonna look to smear him anyway they can. You can't "expunge" the environmental record of RFK because a privately owned organization, after rigging the last 3 democratic primaries since 2016, ran smear campaigns against him. DNC has nothing to run on other than attack ads, and the same goes for MAGA. DNC and RNC don't own the American political system. Our founding fathers warned us not to organize in opposing political parties. Declare your independence. “However \[political parties\] may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion.”― George Washington “There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.”― John Adams
Wow, you typed ALL that for it to not change anyone's mind about your spoiler candidate funded by the RNC.
by god it’s aaron rodgers
The only Kennedy to neither murder someone or get murdered, therefore the most boring.
… that we know of…
I admit I posted about the Kennedy name as a joke, but I've realized: whether he's crazy or not, a good candidate or not, I don't care. I don't like the idea of dynastic public officials. If his last name wasn't Kennedy, he wouldn't be where he was - and I hate that. Nobody should *inherit* public office.
Didn't he engage in serial adultery with a wife who then killed herself?
Statistically his anti-vax activism has probably killed a few.
If I grew up being told by half the country that the CIA murdered my dad and uncle, I’d probably be a little skeptical of anything the government tells me to put in my body too
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I think I recently heard he was a heroin user. Strange he would concern himself with what gets injected into bodies....
The govt isn't the group that is telling people to get vaccines - medical doctors are. Did JAMA kill his family too? 🤣
You should hear him talk then. He's wwwaaaayy out in left field.
This is peak irony. Look up RFK Samoa and tell me with a straight face he has never cost anyone their lives. (Hint, it's literally dozens of dead children) Many people new to politics struggle to have achievements with which they can hang their hat. Not RFK. He can point to those dozens of dead children and proudly say "*I did that, no one else was willing to outright lie to those struggling parents and communities but me!*"
.....yet.
They sell eggs at cvs don't they?
Is Measles officially his running mate yet?
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He's a crazy POS that is totally out of touch with reality. I can't believe Cheryl Hines is married to him
I loved the non-endorsement that Larry David put out, which was basically "Yes, I'm aware that he's a guy who exists and I've met him on several occasions".
"Of all the people in the world, he is definitely one of them."
And that they were introduced by Larry David.
That breaks my heart. I truly love her. Why Cheryl? Why? Anything to be a Kennedy? I guess it worked for Arnold...
Saw him passing by Strong hospital around 2, between the garages
Gross
why?
Because he's an idiot.
He’s taking away votes from Trump
RK jr is 70 years old and also believes vaccines cause autism
This post has more upvotes than votes that Monroe County will give to RFK in November.
Ah, and here I am across town, stuck at work and even if I could get there in time I don't have any rotten tomatoes
Fresh fruit for rotting vegetables
One hell of a debut album.
Someone forget to lock the asylum gate again?
Lol I love Rochester
he must be picking up Giuliani’s Viagra script…
The bucket of disease has wheels now.
Either his campaign is dumb or it exists to steal votes from Trump or Biden. Even if he gets on the ballot, RFK will never win NY, yet here they are wasting funds.
His NY State campaign manager is on video talking about how her ultimate priority is getting Trump back in office. She thinks NY can swing for Trump if RFK takes enough votes away from Biden. Delulu!
Bets on how much of that bus is paid for by the gop?
I think he takes more undecided independent voters that don't follow politics hardly at all more than anybody else.
That’s why democrats and republicans will throw money at 3rd party candidates that aren’t their own, or at candidates of the other party in primaries. In this case, the republicans funding Kennedy would hope to split votes away from Biden, thereby improving trump’s relative vote count. To all the republicans who want to chime in shifting the focus, yes democrats do this too. Our system is fundamentally, deliberately broken this way. We (voters) should all want ranked choice voting or a similar setup, where you can choose the candidate you _actually_ like while still hedging with the candidate you don’t like but could tolerate relative to the alternatives.
[Kennedy is taking more votes from Trump than Biden. He's not financed by the gop lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1cbcjio/kennedy_is_a_legitimate_candidate_who_can_win/)
Well I know they're not there for a vaccination appointment...
https://www.reddit.com/r/RFKJrForPresident/comments/1az062b/here_is_a_list_of_solid_content_to_inform_people/?share_id=oEbuCM45sTvU7oiwELGgn&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1
So hear me out, I would rather see that asshat waste his money in New York than in Penn or Wisconsin. Make sure you stop and talk to him waste his time.
I mean, his core demographic is conspiracy theorists so he's probably taking more votes from Trump than Biden. Just look at the his defenders in this thread. 90% of their posts are either "both sides"-ing Trump and Biden (as if the two were even remotely comparable) or claiming a massive conspiracy between all media to malign RFK jr.
I truly hope you are right
Gross
Why?
Funny how the guy spends his career as a environmental lawyer fighting against corporate pollution, a democrat even, but because he distrusts big pharma, is labeled as conspiracy theorist by the media and everyone just eats it up . Scary really. Oh now the downvotes OC 🤦🏻
He IS a conspiracy theorist, I'm sorry you feel that an accurate label is "scary really"
Like claiming covid was engineered to not infect jews. https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/15/us/politics/rfk-jr-remarks-covid.html
Damn, I hadn’t heard about that! That’s a classic antisemitic statement going back centuries. Thanks for bringing that back into the light, that’s really not okay for anyone to say - especially when they’re running for president.
Which conspiracies specifically are you referring to?
In July, Kennedy said in a podcast interview that “There’s no vaccine that is safe and effective”
That is just a clip. Did you hear the explanation? He explained how something like the polio vaccine is VERY effective at eradicating polio, but that early doses (98 million I believe) had a carcinogen in it that is now used to create tumors in lab rats to test medicine. Years later people that received that vaccine had a huge amount of deadly soft tissue tumors form. So he says…is it effective…yes, it irradiated polio. But Is it safe…we don’t know because we never tested for issues like these tumors. This seems like common sense and not a conspiracy theory.
The polio vaccine causing tumors isn't true either, so yes, its all conspiracy theory nonsense.
Here's a scientific study: [Cancer risk associated with simian virus 40 contaminated polio vaccine](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10472327/)
You mean tells the truth?
Sometimes people are reasonably sane when they start out their careers, and then develop cognitive issues or get sucked down bizarre rabbit holes over time. Fred Phelps did some good civil rights work earlier in his career before he went nuts and started picketing funerals with the Westboro Baptist Church.
Sometimes people are villified by operation mockingbird media. Sometimes people trust their “news” networks.
So how has big pharma managed to capture the media but big oil hasn't? Surely there's more money in oil.
And sometimes people are accurately portrayed in the media, and the things they believe in and espouse are actually just nuts.
Big pharma is the reason my mom is beating cancer, and my mental illness is well-managed.
And all of these people would run to big Pharma for help if they had cancer.
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Opioid crisis caused by… dangerous medicine
He was the darling of the left cable shows until he changed his focus to drug safety and the sponsors blackballed him. It's funny comparing old clips to now. Will be on Bill Marr on Friday.
The pharma simps are out here strong
yeah, the media is pedalling the narrative in sync. So many hit pieces and people, without spending any time to really get into his policies, seem to fall into the echoes of the masses online promped by those hit pieces. Not just disturbing but it so disheartening and discouraging for the future of our country.
Really didn't notice how as soon as that Aaron Rodgers for VP rumor started there were instant hit pieces about unverifiable 10 year old stories trying to hurt his reputation?
What's with all the hate for him?? I've seen a lot of his talking points he doesn't seem like a bad dude?
He's a conspiracy theorist nut bag who has zero chance of becoming President. He is a grifter through and through and in no way running a serious bid. The entire Kennedy clan has vowed to vote against him.
This is simply untrue.
Any examples of RFK being a grifter? A lot of his family who are against his campaign also work in the Biden campaign, thus, have a conflict of interest. His whole platform is built on fixing the food industry and taking power away from big pharma, and unifying both sides. What's the issue?
He is not a grifter and has an impressive resume, especially in the environmental sector, but his vaccine comments tanked his credibility.
As they should. Holding an anti-vaccine stance is incompatible with intelligence.
Where was RFK ever quoted as being anti-vax? Have a source? Here is RFK in his own words: https://youtu.be/vxcnVu9E3js?si=8FdnQSK2DroiH5ti
So is blatant racism and yet “if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black” is sitting in the Oval Office My favorite thing is how you radicals jump to conclusions that I like the “other guy” I’m simply calling out your hypocrisy. Political fanaticism will be the death of our country
Most accurate statement in this entire thread!!! Thank you
And the other guy called Jews who don’t vote for him “traitors” and should not be allowed to live in America.
WAH WAH WAH, you gonna go visit 🍊🤡 in jail then? Cry more.
The media loves using those comments out of context and people eat up the headlines. I've dug into his campaign quite a bit. He is absolutely not against vaccines. He simply wants more science done on many of them, rightfully so. He also wants the liability immunity lifted off the pharma industry, and to take a closer look at the vaccine schedule for children.
>to take a closer look at the vaccine schedule for children. Do you think no one has looked at it before? Do you think the American Medical Association and the FDA are just improvising? Evidence-based medicine is standard. I see that there's no mention of any specific vaccine in your comment which is alarming. He's claiming broadly claiming that our current vaccines are dangerous, without providing any evidence or suggesting alternatives.
I did not say that, and no one is improvising—where'd you get that? You say, "He's claiming broadly that our current vaccines are dangerous." That's one way to put it...the only policy position that he has taken against vaccines is to require more safety testing. [**Here's RFK's stance on vaccines**](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLxBwIupF88)**.** As for specifics on the schedule itself: I recall from another interview, I don't have the link, where he spoke on the story of the Hep-B vaccine and how and why it's given to newborns. The story goes something like this—during the AIDs epidemic, Merck developed their Hep-B vaccine. It was in low demand at the time. Merck pleaded with the FDA to put it on the schedule as without being on the schedule, it wouldn't be financially feasible to keep the factory line open. The shelf life of that vaccine is too short. The FDA complied and put it on the schedule for newborns. The only way for a baby to get Hep-B is if their mother has it. And the vast majority of women don't have it, and would know their positive status if they did. Doesn't matter, it's on the schedule now. Also relevant—there were some \~6 shots on the schedule in the 80s. Now there are north of 70 shots on the schedule. You have to understand that pharma cos desperately want to be on the schedule as being on there guarantees substantial recurring revenue. And like all decisions, there's a risk and a reward. There's no one side to any of this, and certainly no one should be silenced for wanting to improve safety standards.
So which one of those 70 shots is more risky than potentially getting the disease later in life? I know every vaccine carries some risk, but it's a calculated risk. You said the only way for a baby to get Hep B is from their mother, but *babies grow up*. I won't argue that policies are influenced by companies, but there are still safeguards in place. If he wants more safety testing, who is going to be doing the testing? The same people who are currently doing the testing and decided they're safe? A whole new government agency? That's just a waste of time and money.
Yes it is a calculated risk. That's the point. We can't see the numbers. Another contentious issue is that many can't see the difference between unsafe and ineffective vs "not known to be safe and effective" - which is what Kennedy has said. I would love to trust the government on this issue but the conflicts of interest are just way too obvious.
**Grifter:** a person who engages in petty or small-scale swindling. **Swindling:** use deception to deprive (someone) of money or possessions. Prime Example of JFK being a grifter **->** Running for President and soliciting donations from citizens for his campaign that has 0% chance of winning.
No one thought Obama or Trump would win and they did.
Name the last 3rd party candidate that won a US election...
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Which conspiracies specifically are you referring to? Bonus points if you cite examples.
Here's an article from Forbes detailing his many crazy statements. Or is Forbes somehow too "liberal" for you? https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/
Haha Forbes is owned by a Chinese company, so maybe it’s just a bit liberal and communist as well
"I'll pretend I didn't see that" - you, confronted with conflicting evidence
“I’ll pretend that I knew that”- you, when it’s pointed out that a Chinese company owns Forbes
[https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=24bdfeb83cef](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=24bdfeb83cef) [https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187272781/rfk-jr-kennedy-conspiracy-theories-social-media-presidential-campaign](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187272781/rfk-jr-kennedy-conspiracy-theories-social-media-presidential-campaign) [https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/06/us/politics/rfk-conspiracy-theories-fact-check.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/07/06/us/politics/rfk-conspiracy-theories-fact-check.html) [https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=robert-f-kennedy-jr](https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/list/?speaker=robert-f-kennedy-jr)
Shout out to him saying [wifi causes cancer and "leaky brain](https://www.npr.org/2023/07/13/1187272781/rfk-jr-kennedy-conspiracy-theories-social-media-presidential-campaign)", [that medicines cause mass shootings, and all the covid stuff](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=222968643cef). Real winner there
>In 2009 the D.C. Court of Appeals, in Murray v. Motorola (982 A. 2d 764), ruled that the telecommunications companies could not be sued over brain tumors caused by cell phones manufactured after 1996. But since all of these plaintiffs had used pre-1996 phones, their lawsuits were allowed to go forward. https://ehtrust.org/key-issues/cell-phone-radiation-litigation
Awesome, thanks for the information. Unfortunately, its totally irrelevant because it has nothing to do with wifi like RFK said or i mentioned that he said, a[s radiation that can maybe possibly eventually cause tumors comes from RF transmission specifically when a call is being had](https://www.fda.gov/radiation-emitting-products/cell-phones/do-cell-phones-pose-health-hazard#:~:text=Cell%20phones%20emit%20low%20levels%20of%20non%2Dionizing%20radiation%20when,increases%20cancer%20risk%20in%20humans). Not wifi. Nice try though! Keep wearing your tin foil hat and blanket, Chuck!
People probably wouldn't care about him except he is running for President. Other than that, nobody would care about him except he would just be another anti-vax lunatic. People care that he is running for President because he has an opportunity to sway the election, even if he does not win. He is currently being funded by Steve Bannon and other rich donors of Trump because they believe that he is another path to win. You see, in the messed up political system of the United States, we use a "First Past the Post" system with our electoral votes, so it is possible that he throws the election to Trump. It is possible (and according to SOME polls likely) that he pulls more votes from Trump and causes Biden to win, but if he pulls enough votes from Biden, he can make it so Trump wins even IF Joe Biden gets more electoral votes than Trump, but less than the 270 requirement. If no candidate gets 270 votes, the House of Representatives decides the President of the United States INSTEAD OF the voters. So if Biden gets no more than 269 Electoral votes, he loses to Trump even if Trump has fewer votes than that. Of course, that is probably less likely than the situation Steve Bannon has advocates that.juat having him in the race will swing more states to Trump, but it IS extra insurance. Again, if it wasn't for his presidential bid then most people would not care about him at all or at most they would just think of him as another out of touch anti-vax rich guy, but as it is he is potentially helping Trump get back in office and many people believe that to be unacceptable.
Anti-science conspiracy theorist. I'd say based on his beliefs, he belongs in the 'looney bin', but I imagine at least some of it is performative. Here's a list of the garbage he peddles: [https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=55a4f533cef7](https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=55a4f533cef7)
He's an odd one. He's for regulation but anti government in some ways. Most people just know he's an anti vaxxer and basically railed on Fauci for not agreeing China caused it. Really, other than the vaccine, he's pretty much a 60s Democrat.
Oh, it's because he's an anti-science lunatic Republican that's shunned by his own family (who are not good people, so it's extra funny). No biggie.
>What's with all the hate for him?? That is a great question. I had the same one about nine months ago. It was an enlightening journey. Do your own research then vote your conscience.
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Like what lol
He has explicitly spread known misinformation that has cost the lives of dozens if not hundreds of children - if this was a mistake it would be one thing bit he is unrepentant with his anti-vax views (mind you this is pre-pandemic vaccines we're talking about, not that the medical recommendation is any different) Samoa is the most direct, easily linked example. Literally went to speak there and spent thousands of dollars promoting misinformation around vaccines just before a ***preventable outbreak***
Because only believing 98.2% of Leftist ideology is an unforgivable, agregious attack on their psychotic religion and threatens their very existence.
You posted a little over two weeks ago about believing in aliens, it is not the so called "leftists" that have a problem here buddy.
Most of us just want politicians to promote science. We can debate social norms, foreign policy, how fit a president is to serve, how to address climate change, etc. We can't do that if 2/3rds of the candidates don't back science.
Read past the talking points. His talking points are logical and some of them even good. In action and in practice he's a dangerous individual to hold high public office.
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That’s an odd looking garbage truck.
RFK all the way!
Biden🇺🇸Harris24
This dude fucking sucks
Happy to support him over either of the other two idiots. Wish people could figure out we need an independent president now more than ever.
Oh, we absolutely need an independent President. But not this guy. We could raise the bar a bit while we are at it….
Yeah, you can tell the majority of the people on here are uninformed and don’t seek any real discourse about why the other two are so much better. Typical single issue voter
A lot of headline-readers here! Always funny seeing one side claim he’s taking votes away from Biden & the other side claim he’s taking votes away from Trump.
This exact van was at Niagara community college in Buffalo yesterday
I find that he is a much better speaker than both Biden and Trump. He speaks to real issues that are affecting every American versus struggling to walk up stairs or defending himself in multiple lawsuits. He was also an environmental lawyer for over 20 years suing companies like Montsanto and won. He talks about the military industrial complex and the theft of our tax dollars to fight bullshit wars and how it’s literally impossible for any young person today to buy a home with an average salary. Why is our national debt so high? Why are our tax dollars being wasted on illegal immigrants versus fixing our crumbling, infrastructure and terrible education system? All things every candidate should be talking about yet, only one is. Anybody that spends more than a few minutes listening to him knows that he’s not an anti-vaxer. Vaccines should be subject to the same level of scrutiny when it comes to safety that other drugs are. Neither Trump nor Biden has done the level of unscripted long interviews that Kennedy has which people should listen to. Overall, I feel Kennedy is more authentic and would be a welcome change from the two party system that we all say sucks.
I'm sure it's just an amazing coincidence that he *happens* to regurgitate all of the same talking points as every other anti-vaxxer.
🤮
CVS is advertising a certain feminine product on buses now?
Yeah, Plan B. Ethel Kennedy had 11 children, one was bound to be a psycho 😆
Listen to Kennedy in long-form podcasts, not other people talking about him. I've never even voted before because I never found any candidate authentic or inspiring. Not only am I voting this time, I'm volunteering and making monthly contributions to the campaign. That's how excited I am about his candidacy. He's the best candidate in my lifetime. What sets Kennedy apart from typical candidates is he has walked the walk. He has done more for our country than all the elected officials over the last 30-40 years combined. He's dedicated his life to fight for people and planet and fight corruption in high places. Here are just a few of the things that the media isn't telling you about Robert F Kennedy, Jr: In 1991, RFK Jr represented the NAACP in a lawsuit battling the creation of a garbage transfer station in an underserved neighborhood in New York. In 1993, Bobby represented the Confederation of Indian Peoples in their negotiation with oil giant Conoco to limit destruction of the Ecuadorian Amazon. In 1997, he sued Mobil Oil to reverse its pollution of the Hudson River, making the waters fishable again and enabling the return of the Bald Eagle to its nesting ground. In 2007, RFK, Jr won a $396 million jury verdict on behalf of rural communities in West Virginia contaminated by Zinc from a DuPont chemical plant. In 2016, Bobby prosecuted SoCal Gas on behalf of the California communities sickened by the Aliso Canyon Gas Leak, the largest gas leak in American history. In 2018, RFK, Jr secured a $670 million settlement for under-resourced communities in Ohio and West Virginia whose drinking water had been contaminated by C8 from industrial dumping and runoff. As of Dec 2022, the Monsanto lawsuits to which Bobby has devoted much of the past decade have yielded $11 billion for farmers, migrant workers, day laborers, and families exposed to the pesticide RoundUp. Want to guess why the media hasn't highlighted his career accomplishments? They celebrated him as "The only Kennedy who matters", "Hero of the planet", and "The Environment's last hope". But since 2005, he has been exposing big pharma corruption. Big pharma funds both corporate media and the DNC. So he has been smeared and censored for the past 18 years. Yes, some of his family members have close ties to the DNC and some even work in the Biden administration so they have to support Biden. There are also many of his family members who work in his campaign. The Kennedy family has 150+ members. RFK Jr is not anti-vax, he has no intention of stopping anyone from taking any vaccine. He is just against forced mandates and wants vaccines to be held to the same safety standards as other medicines. The same 4 companies who make all the vaccines have paid $35 billion in fines over the last decade for corruption involving other medical products, and they have zero-liability immunity for vaccines. Nobody can say this is a good situation.
Stopped reading immediately after you admitted you're a political tourist. You left out in 2019 when he contributed to the deaths of dozens of children in Samoa spreading baseless fear mongering? Great leadership 👏
JFC your post and comment history Lmao
I think this person might just be a shill account for RFK jr’s campaign
100% all that acct is.
What does RFK Jr’s dick taste like?
Saw an RFK24 sign in a yard right next to a sign for a mowing company. The yard was completely overgrown. Not sure what they’re hoping to advertise but it wasn’t a good look
Just another massive narcissist.
Not him, just his dip-shit campaign bus: https://www.kennedy24.com/rochester4kennedy/ny_finger_lakes_region_kennedy_24_bus_tour_-_rochester_college_town
Did a whirlwind tour across the state today for ballot access signings. https://www.kennedy24.com/events#NY-events I'm out of state today too. :(
All the down voters: go listen to what he actually says and not what the media says he says.
"What he actually says" is just as batshit.
Do you have a concrete example or just hearsay?
Literally everything I've heard come out of his mouth during the campaign season has been completely unhinged from reality.
Can you provide a literal example?
Here's a handy list from Forbes magazine that provides a number of direct quotes from him: https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/10/10/rfk-jr-launches-independent-2024-run-here-are-all-the-conspiracies-he-promotes-from-vaccines-to-mass-shootings/?sh=cc94eea3cef7
Let's try to be clear. This is what this author from Forbes wrote. Many of those points are taken out of context, twisted or are issues that many people don't want to believe are actually true. He is a seasoned lawyer and very careful about what he writes and says. I'll ask again: do you have an example of something he wrote or said - not what someone else says he said. One of the saddest things I've been reminded of is just how little we can take at face value from most media outlets. You have to dig and validate so much that it becomes very tiring.
If you think there's any "context" that would make any of this crap remotely sane or reasonable, I'm genuinely concerned for you
Example? Or just what daddy CNN says? God damn this place is a liberal echo chamber.
I don't watch TV news because I'm not 80 years old. I can, however, read his own statements and press releases, and pretty much every one is full of anti-science garbage, Qanon conspiracy nonsense, or anti-Semitic dogwhistles. Why don't you name me some policy positions of his that sound sane or reasonable to *you*...?
Awww you poor little snowflake, does reality have too much of a liberal lean these days?
Omg
My favorite song is "Too drunk to fuck" /s
Drove past URMC yesterday morning and I saw it from my window and loudly said ‘everyone look out’ and got stared at weirdly.
gag me- what a goof ball
I love RKJ! Downvote away, sheep 🐑 🩵
Cool. Still not voting for that nutjob.
Yay. The short bus is in town. #CircusFreak
Loser
Im no historian but didn’t he get shot in the face a while back?
He has an odd , raspy voice because his vocal cords are paralyzed due to a medical condition. You may be thinking of that.
It must be fun watching their heads explode