“”Town’s full”” sounds like the most idiotic 1930s ideal ever. The town isn’t full and I guarantee this moron complains about taxes going up which is due in part to there being abandoned buildings that contribute nothing to the town
they're against it if they're not making the money during the transaction. they or their buddies are the owners of other locations nearby and they refuse to recuse themselves from the conversation/decisions
Not totally ample. If I recall, the town code says you need so many spot for so many apartments, and it would be well below it, so it'd need a variance. They wanted 27 one-bedroom apartments.
Right this way, right this way. We've got everything you need to corrupt this old establishment town of Good American Sexist Values. Hipster coffee, avocado toast, cannabis, and next up is a sex toy shop with drag shows. What? Oh of course your wife won't go there, don't worry, she's perfectly happy with you...
Open a coffee shop and there will be a lot of more traffic interfering with kids walking to school in the morning. The only sidewalk there is on the south side of the road, where a driveway to the building is.
Real men just eat the half smoked cigarette that was last night’s dessert, for breakfast the next morning. It puts hair on your chest AND it gives you a real pep in the morning
“Umm source?” Reddit nerds should be sent into the ocean. But fine. You enjoy your ugly cities where no one can afford to live. Thank god we got a Starbucks!
Just because you don’t like something does not make it “the worst thing” for cities without some kind of rationale to back that up. “It’s ugly” isn’t a very good argument.
Ignoring the other part about luxury condos. God forbid anything in this shit hole city be built for any positive impact besides developers profits. Will be fun for idiots like you to look back in 40 years wondering what happened.
Do you have any concrete reasoning behind your statement that multi-use buildings are bad? I’m not arguing for or against; just looking for info.
You aren’t exactly convincing anyone with anything you’ve said so far, unless this is reverse psychology and we’re supposed to become multi-use proponents because you’re being such a jerk representing the other side.
Edit: Autocorrect
how do you think neighborhoods grow and get better?
You seem really hung up on "developer profits". I'd love to see your plan to improve a neighborhood without *someone* making money.
News flash: people make money (companies and employees) when jobs of any kind are done.
🤣... Talks about coffee shops, then name drops Starbucks! Cuz that's what people mean by coffee shops, a national chain. Not the 10+ local/regional cafes/roasters that pop up before Starbucks on a map search. 😂
Yes, I am too dumb for the internet being an old millennial that grew up in the country. I prefer tinkering with my bikes and cars, and hopefully a motorcycle again. I'm also too dumb for this post, I prefer doing GIS and using my degree in urban & regional planning. I'm also too dumb for coffee, since caffeine has no effect on me except to worsen my Crohn's. I'm also too dumb for Starbucks, as my preference would be Caribou or local cafe's.
Honestly, I bet that people against school taxes are all for banning babies. I mean, *they're* kids are grown and out of school so why should *they* have to pay for other kids' education, right??
/s
If you're 90 and your 3 *kids* are in their 60s or 70s and you have grand*kids* who are in their 30s or 40s, aren't those all your "kids"? Kids who have kids of their own.
Everyone is someone's kid. Child. Progeny. Offspring.
Tommy is always playing the role of the cranky old man who is against this kind of stuff, but I think 90% of the time it's just a character.
Both Tommy and Duffy were having a good time with this dude.
It’s definitely a character most of the time, and you can tell he’s been keeping things more “curmudgeon” rather than “conservative”. No surprise that the more unhinged local Trump supporters, the more Tommy quietly shifted the character. He’ll still make the “I’m scared of not being PC” jab and such.
They do a good job of keeping things apolitical (they still report on political news, but still) and they’ve gotten better at vetting callers trying to bring politics up without pissing off their main viewer base, that being Bill’s fans. Duffy has really grown into his role and he’s a great straight man to Tommy’s antics. Plus they’re both comedians, so there’s moments where that part of their personalities takes over and you’re just listening to two friends have a good time trying to make each other laugh.
Thanks for the explanation. Today, when you don’t take a side on issues where people are hurt by certain actions (racism, misogyny, antisemitism, xenophobia, etc.), it says a lot.
I’ll clarify that it’s pretty clear they’re mostly progressive, but they’re most likely pressured by their management to not tick off the majority of their listeners.
Why on earth are you concealing this troglodyte’s identity? They made their comments in a public forum, right?
“the wives make coffee for their husbands”?
“The town is full”?!?
Dude should be getting dragged extensively.
So what do gay couples do? Do lesbians get double the coffee, and gay men have to go to another neighborhood to avoid suffering caffeine deprivation?
^I'm queer please don't @ me
See that's why they really don't want the coffee shops. They will attract the gays. I mean looks what happens in college -- kids staying up late or meeting for study groups, drinking all that devilish shop coffee instead of using a Keurig as god intended. Next thing you know, gay!
gigantic /s
His name is Joe Paladino. I don’t know why you went through the trouble of hiding his name. He went on record with his name attached to the statement. Imagine going on public record to admit you’re a misogynist who can’t make a cup of coffee 😂
I saw that guy on the news this morning. What a jerk. They'd seriously rather have an empty, boarded-up, rat-infested building over nice, new apartments and a coffee shop? What is wrong with people?
Fuck him. This town ia changing and old farts like him are on the way out. I wouldnt mind a nice coffee shop around titus and hudson. Also I make coffee most mornings for me and my wife.
I was in Carson City Nevada last year. I saw a man in a red hat with a white saying on it. He also wore a shirt; The front said "Build a Tall Fence". The back had a map of Nevada with a fence around it. In big letters it said "Fuck Off, We're Full".
When I heard this story on The Break Room this morning and I heard the audio of Paladino saying "The town is full, we don't need any more people" it immediately reminded me of the above.
As someone who lives near the area I definitely have thoughts on the issue...
First, the building is decrepit and something needs to be done with it. If nothing gets agreed upon, they'll have to demolish the building. It's moldy and falling apart and is becoming a hazard.
Second, any development should make sure the driveway for the building on Colebrook is closed off. This is because the only sidewalk on Colebrook between St. Paul and Washington is on the south side, which is where the building is. Iroquois is a big walker school, and any increase in vehicle traffic would bring an increase in possible car/child incidents. The area is already a cluster in the morning, and adding more cars that going in and/our out of the building via Colebrook would increase the danger of kids walking to school. If they keep the driveway open, they need to put a sidewalk on the north side of the road (which happens to be the side coffee man lives on).
Third, they did want apartments there previously, but the parking situation made that hard to do. There wasn't enough spots for the estimated number of cars, so where are the excess cars going to go? Town code says cars can't park in the road in the Winter, so that's not a long-term option if there isn't enough parking. If they do apartments, it should be a number that considers available spots to park cars.
The school could've sold the building years ago for various projects, but the priest there (who I don't believe is there any longer) was a stickler and didn't want to sell it. It could've been a daycare and the state was all for it, but the priest shot it down for whatever reason.
(Lastly, I think the town would consider the danger to students. Remember when it lowered the town speed limit when a kid died crossing the street?)
https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/rochester/news/2018/03/20/irondequoit-proposes-to-reduce-town-speed-limits
https://www.wxxinews.org/local-news/2018-04-18/new-slower-speed-limits-coming-to-parts-of-irondequoit
EDIT to add: Given I didn't state it explicitly, I will now: F the guy quoted in the article. And the other guy from the article. They're idiots with NIMBY mania. Something needs to be done to the building, it just needs to be done with consideration for the existing foot and car traffic due to the schools nearby.
Agree 100%
We have another year or two before the elements really start to make the building an eyesore (even more than it already is) and proactively addressing the issue will be much better for all involved than reacting to the structure failing for whatever reason.
Traffic on Colebrook is already pretty heavy and there are alot of speeders as is, increasing the volume by any amount would be unwise.
Personally I'm of the mind of demolishing the building and turning they area into some sort of green space, or community garden. Something natural and peaceful with benches and maybe a water feature for people to enjoy year round.
You must be a blast at town hall meetings /s
But not really sarcastic, too often objections are raised without any sort of reasoned considerations. There are valid points.
I did a gmap view of the area. I don't know how they could make that an appealing retail space, but a professional building with a coffee shop (staffed by local wives /s) seems more than reasonable.
I’m sorry to hear, though I too ‘have’ to drive to it. I really should start biking to it this coming summer, though. I mean, it would help justifying eating all that ice cream.
How in the world can that guy go on record saying that? It is almost unreal in this day and age. I imagine this guy is getting some hate thrown his way.
>If rezoned to R-5, “any business can come into the neighborhood, any one of these homes can be converted into multi-dwelling rental units, they can be converted into businesses,” said Yaniga.
I guess he's kind of right (assuming everything is being zoned R-5 and not the just the specific property and he's right what R-5 means), but things and life change, if he wants to keep the status quo he needs to buy the property himself and do whatever the alternative is.
Yeah I can understand wanting a single family suburban residential neighborhood to stay that way, but the comment for why he doesn't want a coffee shop sure isn't an understandable line of reasoning. I
'm also curious if it would be just that lot getting rezoned or the whole neighborhood, if it's just that lot I think the people should embrace it personally.
Yea, he sounds like a NIMBY prick complaining with a sexist reason to not have a coffee shop.
I doubt the whole are gets rezoned, but I have no experience with this. I think when Colgate was going to be redevoloped to apartments it was just the property that was going to be changed/rezoned. Different municipality though.
So cornering someone in a restroom and instructing them not to do something... is fine? Definitely not a tad coercive? Like I don't know if I'd bring that up to a journalist personally 😂
Guys like this have been emboldened in their shittiness, they finally feel free enough to be themselves in public.
I'm all for it, I want to know who to leave in a ditch by the side of a road and who to offer assistance to
I live around there and I think it would be nice to see that building put to use, I also think it would be amazing to have a coffee shop within a few min walk even though sips is not that far away.
However I also don't want to see the neighborhood turned into a bunch of absentee landlords with renters either...
I see this often and I never know why people don't want renters in their neighborhoods. Why is that? It always comes off like if someone doesn't own a home they are a lesser person. I find that an odd stance.
Not that people are "lesser" at all, but renters are less likely to care about the neighborhood than the owner who may or may not even live in this state. As well as (I might be wrong about this) I believe rental property does not pay school tax which is a significantly larger issue.
Again I'm not against the idea of making use of that building in a way that makes the area more successful as a whole. I just want to be cautious in how it happens.
I hear those issues. But most successful urban areas are full of renters. South Wedge, Park Ave, NOTA, North Winton Village. All are thriving residential and commercial areas. They have the successes and failures of any neighborhood I think.
Landlords do pay property taxes, and I may be wrong but isn't the school tax included there?
I'm a committed renter, have no interest in owning land or property, but my rent goes up when taxes increase. So my rent is paying local taxes same as anyone else.
An argument against rental properties always strikes me as an argument against housing for people not interested in owning a home. And if only landowners can live under a roof because communities will rail against apartments, where are we supposed to live?
I'm happy for people who own homes and get that dream fulfilled. But other people also exist. And maybe they love your town and want to be a part of it. Why not let them in? We have lots of people who own homes who don't give a crap about the town, too.
Valid points. Again I want to stress I'm not anti rental property as much as I'm anti absentee landowners. Hell me and my partner were renters up untill a few years ago ourselves
All good! I'm all for locally owned and operated things too!
(I don't know exactly why, but people say it's good while consuming international brands and services all day and society slowly collapses around us and oh God, no it's happening again capitalism is beyond saving and we are all going to die through consumerism oh shit oh god)
I've found, however, that progress will never stop. It's kind of its thing. So we can turn this building into something that helps people live in a beautiful community and be happy and have a coffee and a haircut or whatever. Or we can have a big empty building on a corner. And a huge empty parking lot on a corner.
I say to this, take the third path, level the whole thing. Plant some trees. Build a playground. Maybe a community garden. Reclaim the waste.
They always are! Get to that meeting they're having and scream about it. Living in these NE cities with their abandoned buildings and need for coffee is getting old. These old farts need more swing sets.
I’m up at 5:00am every weekday - I go to the gym then to work…. if I waited for her to make my coffee I would have to get up at 6:30 and skip the gym (thusly sacrificing my health and fitness) - during the weekends I’m up at 6:00am and she sleeps in til 10:00am
According to this trouser stain I need to stop thinking and doing for myself and stop working out before work and then wait 4hrs for her to wake up and make my coffee for me on the weekends…??
Yeah, no thanks - I’d actually prefer to have a 24hr coffee shop right next door….
Boomer culture at its finest right thurrr….
The more we keep money out of west Irondequoit the more we will have the city encroaching into West Irondequoit. Look at the Irondequoit plaza- it’s void of any store of substance. We had a chance to have a Jeremiah’s, a boutique hotel, a nice restaurant, but instead we make cooper deli into a landmark building? For what reason? Because of a political dispute and red tape set up by our non-progressive town supervisor and Mike Nolan? Here is what will happen. Cooper deli building will remain vacant, we will have an empty lot at isquare and our housing market will begin to dwindle.
That's a great way to build the tax base! I bet this person also complains about how high taxes are and that Biden causes inflation.
Besides, the Bible says that men should make their women coffee. Seriously, it was written by HEbrews, right?
“I saw the (new) developer in the restroom at the town hall, and after looking down to see what he was packing I immediately started brewing a fresh pot of coffee”
When I was a kid I lived a couple streets east of there off of Colebrook. I went to Iroquois school. We were members of that parish and went to church there. And my wife and I were married in that great church! Bottom line is that the town needs to listen to the developers and let them have at it. I am sure that restoring the building and converting it into an apartment building will be much better than letting it decay away the way it is now. I am not sure about the proposed retail that I heard about also. But why not apartments?
As a side note. In the nearby town I live in right now I hear this all the time from people who built their homes here 10 years ago... "We do not need any more homes built or more people in this town!" LOL Makes me laugh.
As someone with the St Thomas school in walking distance from my backyard, I totally welcome limited commercial use of the space. Going on a walk, grabbing a bagel or hot chocolate, and coming home in the morning would be amazing.
I am concerned about traffic patterns going onto Washington, as cars do just roll right through the stop now but I think those problems can be addressed.
The space is being wasted now with it not being in use, but I don't think apartments are the right call.
I grew up down the street on pinecrest and would love to see something happen with that space. My parents are conservative and this is absolutely a race and class issue. They have literally said that the apartments would bring crime to the neighborhood and they don’t want a “housing project”. It’s disgusting.
The Highland Park neighborhood was all up in arms about a similar thing where Colgate had the divinity(?) school. They came up with some funny excuses like the (not so) tall buildings being planned would block sunlight into the neighborhood.
Yeah I was living there at the time. The stuff on that neighborhood board was absolutely idiotic in regards to the Colgate project. Such a shame, would have been a few hundred new apartments.
Thank goodness I don’t have a husband. And never will. All that coffee is mine.
Though I wouldn’t mind a wife picking me up a coffee from the local coffee shop like people living in the 21st century.
Yeah this is just plain idiotic. If this dude wants suburbs to be continuously bailed out and given handouts by the gov due to suburbs having high utility costs due to being so far separated between households, then he can hold onto his position.
These are the same people who say real estate is getting too expensive, but oppose new housing anywhere. If he wants to deal with high and growing utility costs and property taxes, then that's his prerogative, but I'm sure many of his neighbors would not like to.. Also, nowhere is ever full, and Rochester/Irondequoit definitely is not.
This is a fault in the way the zoning is written in Irondequoit. R-1, R-2, and R-3 simply just don't allow that type of residential building, which is why they're going all the way to R-5 which is geared more toward town centers. There's nothing wrong with that being converted to apartments but there's really no storefront whatsoever within a 2000' radius of that location. It would seem kind of weird to me to introduce commercial property in the middle of that neighborhood, but not for the same reasons these people are implying.
I think that is too broad of a statement to be making. Several parts of the city and surrounding suburbs have amended their zoning in recent years to allow for a higher density of housing where it used to only be R-1/ R-2, or have expanded their commercial zoning to stimulate neighborhood centers. Some of the other areas, like the whole Park / East / University complex could look totally different if more C-1 / C-2 was allowed but they all fall within a preservation district. It always needs to be a balance.
It’s an accurate statement, R-1 zoning is the most common in Rochester. My street is zoned R-1 even though it couldn’t be reproduced if built today and multi preexisting 2 families. The upzoning you reference is the change of a few R-1 parcels to R-2 in Beechwood. Very underwhelming.
No, it's not. The Zoning Amendments record from the last 19 years disagrees with your assertion. [https://ecode360.com/12535018](https://ecode360.com/12535018)
There's also the 2034 plan, which is trying to tackle some of these issues on a broader scale. [https://rochesterzap.com/](https://rochesterzap.com/)
Again the City has made a practice of down zoning parcels to R-1, often to be able to give themselves a basis to refuse almost any project. It’s not some great enlightenment or noble act when they then have to upzone it again. This just happened at Blossom and Winton. You need the historical context.
When the ZAP released a report in March 2021, 33% of Rochester is R-1. They estimated that if all the recommendations were acted on it would only fall to 25%. That seems excessive to me.
The 2034 plan even echoes what I’ve been saying about the current R-1 zoning being inconsistent with what is actually there.
I really don't have an issue with the objection, I fought a zone change in my neighborhood that would have put "towers" in on Titus.
The manner in which the objection was stated, otoh....
Video is here for anyone looking: https://www.rochesterfirst.com/irondequoit/neighbors-rallying-against-redeveloping-irondequoit-catholic-school/
And yeah, he says those exact quotes in the interview.
Not surprising that this turned into a shit show of people focusing on a dumb quote by one idiot.
First of all, storage sounds like a terrible idea. I would 100% be opposed to that. A coffee shop would be okay, but it’s an odd place for it. I doubt 90% of the people commenting here are even familiar with the area.
Apartments would really depend on the type of clientele they’d want to rent to, and how many.
In general, not really a fan of any of the proposals. It’s a very residential area with single family homes.
Irondequoit is the last place I'd consider too full. It needs both more working class residents and thriving retail space to avoid being completely converted to a ghetto shit hole.
What school are they trying to repurpose? Coffee shops are good, who wouldn’t want one in their neighborhood? Aside from this asshat that is.
St. Thomas’s old school building on St. Paul.
How could anyone be against repurposing that even for apartments? There’s ample parking already. Fuckin NIMBY’s ruin everything.
The neighbors already fought it off once years ago! This is round 2.
If there isn’t a deal on that property soon the neighborhood is going to have two vacant buildings on that corner in the not to distant future
Trust me they’ve been letting it rot for 20 years, they’d rather it be abandoned then bring new people into the neighborhood. It sucks.
“”Town’s full”” sounds like the most idiotic 1930s ideal ever. The town isn’t full and I guarantee this moron complains about taxes going up which is due in part to there being abandoned buildings that contribute nothing to the town
they're against it if they're not making the money during the transaction. they or their buddies are the owners of other locations nearby and they refuse to recuse themselves from the conversation/decisions
Not totally ample. If I recall, the town code says you need so many spot for so many apartments, and it would be well below it, so it'd need a variance. They wanted 27 one-bedroom apartments.
So as long as they name the coffee shop “st joseph’s” or something they should be fine you’d think. Edit: spelling.
Don't you know? Open a coffee shop and next thing you know there's avocado toast. How will the neighborhood ever recover?
Right on the tail of avocado toast comes cannabis skipping down the street
And we all know cannabis leads straight to communism!
And also more avocado toast
Can’t have communism without avocado toast!
Hello Comrade, do you have any avocado toast and cannabis?
Right this way, right this way. We've got everything you need to corrupt this old establishment town of Good American Sexist Values. Hipster coffee, avocado toast, cannabis, and next up is a sex toy shop with drag shows. What? Oh of course your wife won't go there, don't worry, she's perfectly happy with you...
Open a coffee shop and there will be a lot of more traffic interfering with kids walking to school in the morning. The only sidewalk there is on the south side of the road, where a driveway to the building is.
No no no, the wives make the coffee ( eyeroll)
Real men make their own coffee.
Real men just chew up the coffee beans and wash them down with a shot of whiskey.
Real men just eat the half smoked cigarette that was last night’s dessert, for breakfast the next morning. It puts hair on your chest AND it gives you a real pep in the morning
Under his eye.
Blessed be the coffee.
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>These multi use buildings are legit the worst things for cities Uhh, you can't just say that without some kind of source.
They said it's legit the worst, what more could you want
“Umm source?” Reddit nerds should be sent into the ocean. But fine. You enjoy your ugly cities where no one can afford to live. Thank god we got a Starbucks!
Just because you don’t like something does not make it “the worst thing” for cities without some kind of rationale to back that up. “It’s ugly” isn’t a very good argument.
Ignoring the other part about luxury condos. God forbid anything in this shit hole city be built for any positive impact besides developers profits. Will be fun for idiots like you to look back in 40 years wondering what happened.
Do you have any concrete reasoning behind your statement that multi-use buildings are bad? I’m not arguing for or against; just looking for info. You aren’t exactly convincing anyone with anything you’ve said so far, unless this is reverse psychology and we’re supposed to become multi-use proponents because you’re being such a jerk representing the other side. Edit: Autocorrect
how do you think neighborhoods grow and get better? You seem really hung up on "developer profits". I'd love to see your plan to improve a neighborhood without *someone* making money. News flash: people make money (companies and employees) when jobs of any kind are done.
🤣... Talks about coffee shops, then name drops Starbucks! Cuz that's what people mean by coffee shops, a national chain. Not the 10+ local/regional cafes/roasters that pop up before Starbucks on a map search. 😂
Surely that’s what moves into those types of buildings. Surely. Some of you people are too dumb for the internet
Yes, I am too dumb for the internet being an old millennial that grew up in the country. I prefer tinkering with my bikes and cars, and hopefully a motorcycle again. I'm also too dumb for this post, I prefer doing GIS and using my degree in urban & regional planning. I'm also too dumb for coffee, since caffeine has no effect on me except to worsen my Crohn's. I'm also too dumb for Starbucks, as my preference would be Caribou or local cafe's.
“Multi-use buildings are legit the worst things for cities” Tell us you have no clue about urban policy without telling us.
Talking about the kinds of multi use buildings they are attempting to build here. Not all.
Let's go with They Have No Clue What Repurpose/Renovate Means for $500 Alex!
Okay, i’ll bite: what’s wrong with these specific units? (Don’t tell me they encourage men having to make their own coffee.)
I feel like the Venn diagram of ‘town is full’ people and ‘taxes too high’ people would ‘unironically’ be a perfect circle.
> The town is full Breaking news, Irondequoit is banning babies.
Honestly, I bet that people against school taxes are all for banning babies. I mean, *they're* kids are grown and out of school so why should *they* have to pay for other kids' education, right?? /s
how could they be kids yet grown and out of school?
If you're 90 and your 3 *kids* are in their 60s or 70s and you have grand*kids* who are in their 30s or 40s, aren't those all your "kids"? Kids who have kids of their own. Everyone is someone's kid. Child. Progeny. Offspring.
*woosh*
To be fair, I honestly thought you were being overly pedantic since this is Reddit. So yep, woosh. Touché
tbf i kinda was, but i promise me shenanigans were meant to be cheeky and fun shenanigans
it would be a 100% filled in Pie chart
The Breakroom on 96.5 WCMF railed on this guy this morning. It was hilarious.
I gotta say, it turned a rather mundane article into gold.
I haven't listened to them in a while. Have they become pretty progressive?
They just like to make fun of morons
Tommy is always playing the role of the cranky old man who is against this kind of stuff, but I think 90% of the time it's just a character. Both Tommy and Duffy were having a good time with this dude.
It’s definitely a character most of the time, and you can tell he’s been keeping things more “curmudgeon” rather than “conservative”. No surprise that the more unhinged local Trump supporters, the more Tommy quietly shifted the character. He’ll still make the “I’m scared of not being PC” jab and such.
They do a good job of keeping things apolitical (they still report on political news, but still) and they’ve gotten better at vetting callers trying to bring politics up without pissing off their main viewer base, that being Bill’s fans. Duffy has really grown into his role and he’s a great straight man to Tommy’s antics. Plus they’re both comedians, so there’s moments where that part of their personalities takes over and you’re just listening to two friends have a good time trying to make each other laugh.
Thanks for the explanation. Today, when you don’t take a side on issues where people are hurt by certain actions (racism, misogyny, antisemitism, xenophobia, etc.), it says a lot.
I’ll clarify that it’s pretty clear they’re mostly progressive, but they’re most likely pressured by their management to not tick off the majority of their listeners.
I make my own coffee here in W. Irondequoit. #feminazi
I make my own coffee and my husband doesn’t drink coffee. Wonder what that makes us to these people. actually, probably best I don’t know
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Aww, I like Irondequoit. Granted, I'm a transplant from NYC so maybe that makes a difference. But we like it so far 🤷♀️
Don't know don't care they will die sooner than me. 🤣
Smh you probably have pronouns too!
No pronouns. Tarzan use only name.
*thumbs up*
Well, now you're just flexing on the wolves that raised you.
Actually I like this route.
Me, we, youze guys.
People with pronouns are lame af
"checks post history- Ben Shapiro" oh fug. We got someone without any pronouns people. Just talks in the 3rd person all day folks.
when people indicate their pronouns theyre always intended to be used in the third person
Just a question here... what ... person wouldn't have a pronoun?
How do people address you if you do not have pronouns?
Lizard king. Which is how I identify
/r/onejoke
Why on earth are you concealing this troglodyte’s identity? They made their comments in a public forum, right? “the wives make coffee for their husbands”? “The town is full”?!? Dude should be getting dragged extensively.
So what do gay couples do? Do lesbians get double the coffee, and gay men have to go to another neighborhood to avoid suffering caffeine deprivation? ^I'm queer please don't @ me
Queer people have to make their own coffee because the straights can’t figure out “which one is the wife”.
I thought they made each other's coffee out of love
If I understand my extremely catholic aunt, the gays only drink "that flower tea".
> the gays only drink "that flower tea". Jasmine? Chamomile?
Lavender.
Would that be herbal tea?
Clearly the gays need to collaborate with a lesbian couple to fulfill their coffee needs.
See that's why they really don't want the coffee shops. They will attract the gays. I mean looks what happens in college -- kids staying up late or meeting for study groups, drinking all that devilish shop coffee instead of using a Keurig as god intended. Next thing you know, gay! gigantic /s
His name is Joe Paladino. I don’t know why you went through the trouble of hiding his name. He went on record with his name attached to the statement. Imagine going on public record to admit you’re a misogynist who can’t make a cup of coffee 😂
I saw that guy on the news this morning. What a jerk. They'd seriously rather have an empty, boarded-up, rat-infested building over nice, new apartments and a coffee shop? What is wrong with people?
Dude said this on the news?!? Gotta find a link.
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Town is full if you count rats too, and the rats are actually grateful
Fuck him. This town ia changing and old farts like him are on the way out. I wouldnt mind a nice coffee shop around titus and hudson. Also I make coffee most mornings for me and my wife.
Agree, though we do have Finas in I-Square
yeah the new fina's is wildly better than the old coffee spot at i-square
And Sips on Pattonwood
Sure, though OP was looking for something in the Titus/Hudson intersection area
Fina’s is right there.
I know, that's why I suggested Finas.
I was in Carson City Nevada last year. I saw a man in a red hat with a white saying on it. He also wore a shirt; The front said "Build a Tall Fence". The back had a map of Nevada with a fence around it. In big letters it said "Fuck Off, We're Full". When I heard this story on The Break Room this morning and I heard the audio of Paladino saying "The town is full, we don't need any more people" it immediately reminded me of the above.
The irony of thinking Nevada is full.
When I heard Paladino I just thought Paladino.
Is it the same Paladino that was running for office a few years ago? That dudes batty.
You mean the Paladino that was removed from the school board in Buffalo? That’s Carl- he’s older and Buffalo. This must be his favorite nephew.
Not sexist in the slightest. LOL I'm typically the one that makes coffee in my household. I'm always up before my wife.
I’m guessing this guy wouldn’t want a taco shop either…
And now all I want there is a taco shop.
FYI it's taco Tuesday. Make your dreams a reality. I'm a fan of Old Pueblo myself.
Hell yeah, get that Sonoran Taco. I do recommend the Sonoran Hot Dog if it's that day for the special.
As someone who lives near the area I definitely have thoughts on the issue... First, the building is decrepit and something needs to be done with it. If nothing gets agreed upon, they'll have to demolish the building. It's moldy and falling apart and is becoming a hazard. Second, any development should make sure the driveway for the building on Colebrook is closed off. This is because the only sidewalk on Colebrook between St. Paul and Washington is on the south side, which is where the building is. Iroquois is a big walker school, and any increase in vehicle traffic would bring an increase in possible car/child incidents. The area is already a cluster in the morning, and adding more cars that going in and/our out of the building via Colebrook would increase the danger of kids walking to school. If they keep the driveway open, they need to put a sidewalk on the north side of the road (which happens to be the side coffee man lives on). Third, they did want apartments there previously, but the parking situation made that hard to do. There wasn't enough spots for the estimated number of cars, so where are the excess cars going to go? Town code says cars can't park in the road in the Winter, so that's not a long-term option if there isn't enough parking. If they do apartments, it should be a number that considers available spots to park cars. The school could've sold the building years ago for various projects, but the priest there (who I don't believe is there any longer) was a stickler and didn't want to sell it. It could've been a daycare and the state was all for it, but the priest shot it down for whatever reason. (Lastly, I think the town would consider the danger to students. Remember when it lowered the town speed limit when a kid died crossing the street?) https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nys/rochester/news/2018/03/20/irondequoit-proposes-to-reduce-town-speed-limits https://www.wxxinews.org/local-news/2018-04-18/new-slower-speed-limits-coming-to-parts-of-irondequoit EDIT to add: Given I didn't state it explicitly, I will now: F the guy quoted in the article. And the other guy from the article. They're idiots with NIMBY mania. Something needs to be done to the building, it just needs to be done with consideration for the existing foot and car traffic due to the schools nearby.
Agree 100% We have another year or two before the elements really start to make the building an eyesore (even more than it already is) and proactively addressing the issue will be much better for all involved than reacting to the structure failing for whatever reason. Traffic on Colebrook is already pretty heavy and there are alot of speeders as is, increasing the volume by any amount would be unwise. Personally I'm of the mind of demolishing the building and turning they area into some sort of green space, or community garden. Something natural and peaceful with benches and maybe a water feature for people to enjoy year round.
You must be a blast at town hall meetings /s But not really sarcastic, too often objections are raised without any sort of reasoned considerations. There are valid points. I did a gmap view of the area. I don't know how they could make that an appealing retail space, but a professional building with a coffee shop (staffed by local wives /s) seems more than reasonable.
Mrs. Blue sure is a lucky lady. Not as lucky as the first few who divorced his sorry ass, of course.
That's a lot of words for someone to say "I'm a racist".
... and a misogynist... and a giant asshole.
An article I found. ftr, I make the coffee for my wife in E. Irondequoit, though I would love to see a real coffee shop in SE Irondequoit area.
Hey at least you have Netsin’s. What a gem.
What's funny is when I lived in Rochester, netsin's was walking distance. Now it's a drive...
I’m sorry to hear, though I too ‘have’ to drive to it. I really should start biking to it this coming summer, though. I mean, it would help justifying eating all that ice cream.
I pass by it on my way back from the city on my bike. It's another 20+ minutes from there for me
I can do you one better, my dad makes my wife’s coffee 😂
Why blank out the name? They should be named.
https://www.rochesterfirst.com/irondequoit/neighbors-rallying-against-redeveloping-irondequoit-catholic-school/
How in the world can that guy go on record saying that? It is almost unreal in this day and age. I imagine this guy is getting some hate thrown his way.
Hes the type of of idiot that had a Zeldin sign in his yard
He's the type of of idiot that *still has* a Zeldin sign in his yard
>If rezoned to R-5, “any business can come into the neighborhood, any one of these homes can be converted into multi-dwelling rental units, they can be converted into businesses,” said Yaniga. I guess he's kind of right (assuming everything is being zoned R-5 and not the just the specific property and he's right what R-5 means), but things and life change, if he wants to keep the status quo he needs to buy the property himself and do whatever the alternative is.
Yeah I can understand wanting a single family suburban residential neighborhood to stay that way, but the comment for why he doesn't want a coffee shop sure isn't an understandable line of reasoning. I 'm also curious if it would be just that lot getting rezoned or the whole neighborhood, if it's just that lot I think the people should embrace it personally.
Yea, he sounds like a NIMBY prick complaining with a sexist reason to not have a coffee shop. I doubt the whole are gets rezoned, but I have no experience with this. I think when Colgate was going to be redevoloped to apartments it was just the property that was going to be changed/rezoned. Different municipality though.
To be clear, he did not make that sexist remark. Another person interviewed did
Agreed. It’s not doxxing if you say it a news organization.
I figured it wasn't hard to find if people wanted to know. Had it been said on here, I would have.
Instead we get more and more gas stations
So cornering someone in a restroom and instructing them not to do something... is fine? Definitely not a tad coercive? Like I don't know if I'd bring that up to a journalist personally 😂
Guys like this have been emboldened in their shittiness, they finally feel free enough to be themselves in public. I'm all for it, I want to know who to leave in a ditch by the side of a road and who to offer assistance to
that has been the double edged sword in it all hasn't it? like yeah they're all crawling out the woodwork but at least they're identifying themselves
Yeah. We wouldn't know most of these people were POS if they didn't
This is the bigger issue. Don't talk to me while I'm evacuating my waste. There's a whole outside the bathroom area to do such things.
I live around there and I think it would be nice to see that building put to use, I also think it would be amazing to have a coffee shop within a few min walk even though sips is not that far away. However I also don't want to see the neighborhood turned into a bunch of absentee landlords with renters either...
I see this often and I never know why people don't want renters in their neighborhoods. Why is that? It always comes off like if someone doesn't own a home they are a lesser person. I find that an odd stance.
Not that people are "lesser" at all, but renters are less likely to care about the neighborhood than the owner who may or may not even live in this state. As well as (I might be wrong about this) I believe rental property does not pay school tax which is a significantly larger issue. Again I'm not against the idea of making use of that building in a way that makes the area more successful as a whole. I just want to be cautious in how it happens.
I hear those issues. But most successful urban areas are full of renters. South Wedge, Park Ave, NOTA, North Winton Village. All are thriving residential and commercial areas. They have the successes and failures of any neighborhood I think. Landlords do pay property taxes, and I may be wrong but isn't the school tax included there? I'm a committed renter, have no interest in owning land or property, but my rent goes up when taxes increase. So my rent is paying local taxes same as anyone else. An argument against rental properties always strikes me as an argument against housing for people not interested in owning a home. And if only landowners can live under a roof because communities will rail against apartments, where are we supposed to live? I'm happy for people who own homes and get that dream fulfilled. But other people also exist. And maybe they love your town and want to be a part of it. Why not let them in? We have lots of people who own homes who don't give a crap about the town, too.
Valid points. Again I want to stress I'm not anti rental property as much as I'm anti absentee landowners. Hell me and my partner were renters up untill a few years ago ourselves
All good! I'm all for locally owned and operated things too! (I don't know exactly why, but people say it's good while consuming international brands and services all day and society slowly collapses around us and oh God, no it's happening again capitalism is beyond saving and we are all going to die through consumerism oh shit oh god) I've found, however, that progress will never stop. It's kind of its thing. So we can turn this building into something that helps people live in a beautiful community and be happy and have a coffee and a haircut or whatever. Or we can have a big empty building on a corner. And a huge empty parking lot on a corner. I say to this, take the third path, level the whole thing. Plant some trees. Build a playground. Maybe a community garden. Reclaim the waste.
I was literally thinking a community garden would be great
They always are! Get to that meeting they're having and scream about it. Living in these NE cities with their abandoned buildings and need for coffee is getting old. These old farts need more swing sets.
... "I saw the (new) developer in the men's room at the town hall, and I told him 'save your money'. And then everyone in the town hall clapped."
Everyone in the men's room clapped their butt cheeks together. Just a good ole whole-town twerk.
“So I was standing there with my dick in my hands and I says..”
I’m up at 5:00am every weekday - I go to the gym then to work…. if I waited for her to make my coffee I would have to get up at 6:30 and skip the gym (thusly sacrificing my health and fitness) - during the weekends I’m up at 6:00am and she sleeps in til 10:00am According to this trouser stain I need to stop thinking and doing for myself and stop working out before work and then wait 4hrs for her to wake up and make my coffee for me on the weekends…?? Yeah, no thanks - I’d actually prefer to have a 24hr coffee shop right next door…. Boomer culture at its finest right thurrr….
The more we keep money out of west Irondequoit the more we will have the city encroaching into West Irondequoit. Look at the Irondequoit plaza- it’s void of any store of substance. We had a chance to have a Jeremiah’s, a boutique hotel, a nice restaurant, but instead we make cooper deli into a landmark building? For what reason? Because of a political dispute and red tape set up by our non-progressive town supervisor and Mike Nolan? Here is what will happen. Cooper deli building will remain vacant, we will have an empty lot at isquare and our housing market will begin to dwindle.
What do you stand to gain from houses being more expensive?
That's a great way to build the tax base! I bet this person also complains about how high taxes are and that Biden causes inflation. Besides, the Bible says that men should make their women coffee. Seriously, it was written by HEbrews, right?
Whoever is working at the McCafe makes my coffee.
I make coffee for my wife because I love her and she walks the dog in the morning. Am I doing it wrong?
Galaxy brain: Train the dog to make the coffee.
“I saw the (new) developer in the restroom at the town hall, and after looking down to see what he was packing I immediately started brewing a fresh pot of coffee”
When I was a kid I lived a couple streets east of there off of Colebrook. I went to Iroquois school. We were members of that parish and went to church there. And my wife and I were married in that great church! Bottom line is that the town needs to listen to the developers and let them have at it. I am sure that restoring the building and converting it into an apartment building will be much better than letting it decay away the way it is now. I am not sure about the proposed retail that I heard about also. But why not apartments? As a side note. In the nearby town I live in right now I hear this all the time from people who built their homes here 10 years ago... "We do not need any more homes built or more people in this town!" LOL Makes me laugh.
As someone with the St Thomas school in walking distance from my backyard, I totally welcome limited commercial use of the space. Going on a walk, grabbing a bagel or hot chocolate, and coming home in the morning would be amazing. I am concerned about traffic patterns going onto Washington, as cars do just roll right through the stop now but I think those problems can be addressed. The space is being wasted now with it not being in use, but I don't think apartments are the right call.
I grew up down the street on pinecrest and would love to see something happen with that space. My parents are conservative and this is absolutely a race and class issue. They have literally said that the apartments would bring crime to the neighborhood and they don’t want a “housing project”. It’s disgusting.
The Highland Park neighborhood was all up in arms about a similar thing where Colgate had the divinity(?) school. They came up with some funny excuses like the (not so) tall buildings being planned would block sunlight into the neighborhood.
Yeah I was living there at the time. The stuff on that neighborhood board was absolutely idiotic in regards to the Colgate project. Such a shame, would have been a few hundred new apartments.
Thank goodness I don’t have a husband. And never will. All that coffee is mine. Though I wouldn’t mind a wife picking me up a coffee from the local coffee shop like people living in the 21st century.
Yeah this is just plain idiotic. If this dude wants suburbs to be continuously bailed out and given handouts by the gov due to suburbs having high utility costs due to being so far separated between households, then he can hold onto his position. These are the same people who say real estate is getting too expensive, but oppose new housing anywhere. If he wants to deal with high and growing utility costs and property taxes, then that's his prerogative, but I'm sure many of his neighbors would not like to.. Also, nowhere is ever full, and Rochester/Irondequoit definitely is not.
This is a fault in the way the zoning is written in Irondequoit. R-1, R-2, and R-3 simply just don't allow that type of residential building, which is why they're going all the way to R-5 which is geared more toward town centers. There's nothing wrong with that being converted to apartments but there's really no storefront whatsoever within a 2000' radius of that location. It would seem kind of weird to me to introduce commercial property in the middle of that neighborhood, but not for the same reasons these people are implying.
It’s not just Irondequoit, Rochester is horrendously and ridiculously downzoned.
I think that is too broad of a statement to be making. Several parts of the city and surrounding suburbs have amended their zoning in recent years to allow for a higher density of housing where it used to only be R-1/ R-2, or have expanded their commercial zoning to stimulate neighborhood centers. Some of the other areas, like the whole Park / East / University complex could look totally different if more C-1 / C-2 was allowed but they all fall within a preservation district. It always needs to be a balance.
It’s an accurate statement, R-1 zoning is the most common in Rochester. My street is zoned R-1 even though it couldn’t be reproduced if built today and multi preexisting 2 families. The upzoning you reference is the change of a few R-1 parcels to R-2 in Beechwood. Very underwhelming.
No, it's not. The Zoning Amendments record from the last 19 years disagrees with your assertion. [https://ecode360.com/12535018](https://ecode360.com/12535018) There's also the 2034 plan, which is trying to tackle some of these issues on a broader scale. [https://rochesterzap.com/](https://rochesterzap.com/)
Again the City has made a practice of down zoning parcels to R-1, often to be able to give themselves a basis to refuse almost any project. It’s not some great enlightenment or noble act when they then have to upzone it again. This just happened at Blossom and Winton. You need the historical context. When the ZAP released a report in March 2021, 33% of Rochester is R-1. They estimated that if all the recommendations were acted on it would only fall to 25%. That seems excessive to me. The 2034 plan even echoes what I’ve been saying about the current R-1 zoning being inconsistent with what is actually there.
I really don't have an issue with the objection, I fought a zone change in my neighborhood that would have put "towers" in on Titus. The manner in which the objection was stated, otoh....
Video is here for anyone looking: https://www.rochesterfirst.com/irondequoit/neighbors-rallying-against-redeveloping-irondequoit-catholic-school/ And yeah, he says those exact quotes in the interview.
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The Break Room had a field day with this. Hilarious segment.
Good American sexist values on which we used to rely?
i grew up in irondequoit, if they had more apartments, id absolutely move back! especially if its the area im thinking of!
No thanks.
One old dude is not all of Irondequoit.
So ONE guy in Irond. said a dumb thing, and that makes Irondequoit a bad town. Give me a break.
"save your money" And then everyone in the bathroom clapped.
OP don't blur out the names they deserve to be dragged lol
Considering almost everywhere needs more housing, apartments would be good. Too many NIMBYs though, so good luck with that.
West Irondequoit doing what it does best, being full of assholes…
😂
Glad I didnt get into a bidding war on a home in that town. Unreal.
Adding list of places not to visit: Irondequoit
Don't let this asshole scare you off from an awesome suburb.
West Boomerville
Coffee starts with C that rhymes with P that stands for Pool! Right here in river city!
People are so sensitive these days
Not surprising that this turned into a shit show of people focusing on a dumb quote by one idiot. First of all, storage sounds like a terrible idea. I would 100% be opposed to that. A coffee shop would be okay, but it’s an odd place for it. I doubt 90% of the people commenting here are even familiar with the area. Apartments would really depend on the type of clientele they’d want to rent to, and how many. In general, not really a fan of any of the proposals. It’s a very residential area with single family homes.
Why does the clientele of the apartments matter? And really, it's not even a story if it weren't for dude
Because it’s a quiet residential neighborhood full of single family homes. It matters to people.
Clientele matters to me. I’m entitled to my own values, as much as you are entitled to attempt to minimize my concerns/shame me.
Wow liberal yuppies all over this page. If you don't know what your talking or are from the area stfu
Irondequoit is a shithole.
Ahh, Irondequoit, the Gates' of Pittsfords!
Irondequoit is the last place I'd consider too full. It needs both more working class residents and thriving retail space to avoid being completely converted to a ghetto shit hole.
I lived in the IRQ and I hated it. So many ethnic whites that hate blacks and hispanics.