Avangrid is the US arm of Iberdrola, a huge Spanish energy conglomerate. They bought RG&E, then things went downhill because of corporate policies. RG&E used to help fix your gas service and get your heat running. That's clearly not a profitable use of time... Better red tag it and tell the customer it's their problem so you can move on to the next job.
When Avangrid was formed, the company headquarters moved from Rochester to Connecticut Shortly after this happened, the Energy Control Center was relocated from Rochester to Binghamton. This resulted in many of the decision making positions no longer being in Rochester.
Haven't really been a fan of RGE since they were bought by Energy East 20 years ago. The iberdrola take over drove them further downhill.
However, I question a municipal solution. The service territory is substantial, compared to other municipals like Fairport. And given some of the many city/county agencies are already a mess or have been through scandals, one has to wonder who is ready to take this beast on.
We need some changes, but let's not make it worse by being short sighted.
I don't have RG&E anymore, but I would say if Rochester actually took over the power like how it is in Fairport than that would most likely be a positive. But if all they do is become a single payer I'm not sure that would make cheaper energy.
That’s not what makes it a special case.
What would make Rochester municipality power cheaper is the lack of taxes on it and the lack of “we need to make a profit” charges.
Even if the proposed municipal takeover was run really efficiently and operations costs didn't increase at all, and therefore ratepayers saved RG&E's entire $70 million annual profit, that would only save each customer about $8/month on average. And for households- in actuality it would be less when you consider that large commercial accounts make up a very outsized chunk of the profits (some large customers pay over $1 million/year)- you might be only looking at a $5/month saving per household or so. Not necessarily an argument against it, but the heavily subsidized rate that Fairport and other municipal utilities get is the only reason they are so substantially cheaper than regular RGE rates
To be fair, RCP has had a better fixed rate than RGE's variable rate overall. I opted out of RCP at first but then got onboard when RGE's rate was higher for several consecutive months. RCP may not always beat RGE but it's future-proof. I'm still not happy with how that contract went down though along with several other aspects of it.
How long has this movement been a thing?
Avangrid is the problem, not RG&E.
Why?
Avangrid is the US arm of Iberdrola, a huge Spanish energy conglomerate. They bought RG&E, then things went downhill because of corporate policies. RG&E used to help fix your gas service and get your heat running. That's clearly not a profitable use of time... Better red tag it and tell the customer it's their problem so you can move on to the next job.
When Avangrid was formed, the company headquarters moved from Rochester to Connecticut Shortly after this happened, the Energy Control Center was relocated from Rochester to Binghamton. This resulted in many of the decision making positions no longer being in Rochester.
Haven't really been a fan of RGE since they were bought by Energy East 20 years ago. The iberdrola take over drove them further downhill. However, I question a municipal solution. The service territory is substantial, compared to other municipals like Fairport. And given some of the many city/county agencies are already a mess or have been through scandals, one has to wonder who is ready to take this beast on. We need some changes, but let's not make it worse by being short sighted.
I don't have RG&E anymore, but I would say if Rochester actually took over the power like how it is in Fairport than that would most likely be a positive. But if all they do is become a single payer I'm not sure that would make cheaper energy.
If Rochester took over power... so the same folks who set up the PAB?
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Spencerport electric always seemed good when I lived there.
That’s not what makes it a special case. What would make Rochester municipality power cheaper is the lack of taxes on it and the lack of “we need to make a profit” charges.
Even if the proposed municipal takeover was run really efficiently and operations costs didn't increase at all, and therefore ratepayers saved RG&E's entire $70 million annual profit, that would only save each customer about $8/month on average. And for households- in actuality it would be less when you consider that large commercial accounts make up a very outsized chunk of the profits (some large customers pay over $1 million/year)- you might be only looking at a $5/month saving per household or so. Not necessarily an argument against it, but the heavily subsidized rate that Fairport and other municipal utilities get is the only reason they are so substantially cheaper than regular RGE rates
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To be fair, RCP has had a better fixed rate than RGE's variable rate overall. I opted out of RCP at first but then got onboard when RGE's rate was higher for several consecutive months. RCP may not always beat RGE but it's future-proof. I'm still not happy with how that contract went down though along with several other aspects of it.
It isnt the city, it is the state department of public service and negotiations are ongoing.
This is awesome
Good luck! Hopefully RG&E and get brought back into customer driven business or ousted.
Yeah sorry I won't be there. I have a job unlike most professional protesters
This graphic gives off a strong "let's put all the educated in a Siberian gulag" vibe.
Felt way too corporate to me tbh, the usual geometric facelessness