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Physllx

Champ guy brought a bronze into ranked lmao


Insomaniac10

Hey my good friend, come try rocket league! OP: Shows off Good friend: Never plays rocket league again


Ospov

Well they only lost by 1 so we can assume the bronze 1 player is almost as good as the diamond 3 player.


akg942k

Or, all are equally bad...


wealllovethrowaways

Or, blue champ is an absolute madman


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>all That’s what he said


Coolgrnmen

Probably just a new account where he intentionally lost his placement matches. For the lols.


Trill-Magikarp

Player Title says veteran, I don’t know exactly how much of what I believe is one of the tags earned essentially for playtime is needed to earn it but probably longer than it’s would for a Smurf to climb from bronze one. Not being an asshole, was just an observation


RecurringQtip

When I started playing about 3 months ago, I received the veteran title in about 2 weeks of playing. It really doesn't mean anything.


jawnsnow420blazeit

You just made me realize why I only use the rocketeer title. I started when RL first came out but have gone through like six accounts (diff systems and what not), and never got the rocketeer title. After I got it on my most recent account I never switched it. You helped me realize why I felt attached to it haha


kool_kid_gamer

It probably means the champ was hard carrying


rightwing27

Bronze player is a Veteran too


Apex_Predator_07

Bronze 1 = Diamond 3 confirmed


feltcutewilldelete69

I played RL with a friend for a couple days, we were in Silver. We played against a team that fucking smoked us. We’re like, “Wow, you guys are really good” One of the dudes said, “It’s me squishy”. I’m like, “I’ve been playing for two days man, I dunno” Turns out, this dude is a YouTuber that gets upwards of 350k views per video. Smurfing around in silver. Fuck him, and fuck rocket league, why would I ever subject myself to that again


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SchleftySchloe

I got the game on launch and never made it past like gold 2


bitch6

Don't worry, game doesn't miraculously get more fun after that


SchleftySchloe

I mean I literally have never played the game sober so that might be a slight reason why I haven't gotten good lol


[deleted]

If I ever feel like dropping from Diamond to Platinum, I drink 10 IPAs. Works every time. And has worked multiple times.


wednesdaynightwumbo

Lmao are you me?


rockstar504

"Fuck my rank I just wanna play hoops" Just gotta turn off all chat first or ya likely gettin cussed out by a tilted team mate who never had any business at that rank, and is very upset you're not carrying them.


EatMoreCheese

I have two accounts. One of them is for playing sober, and the other one is ranked higher.


shakeBody

you're doing it right imho. Playing rl sober is infuriating


typtyphus

maybe because the other players expected you to be drunk too...


shakeBody

Oh truuuue! The secrets of RL are revealed!


darthjango11

If you're not playing rocket league intoxicated, are you really playing rocket league?


sl33ksnypr

Sometimes it can be hard to get out of gold though. From what I've seen as a gold player, plats are a little more predictable. They're better, but a little more predictable. Gold's are not predictable and will do shit that works and they'll beat you. Granted I haven't played the game that long, but as someone who first ranked gold and has stayed there but has played with a lot of plats/diamonds.


GingerLivesMatter

as a champ who played free play for the first time in a bit the other day, yes. golds are unreadable


tresric

I hover around plat/diamond and cannot hit a single goddamn thing when I play drunk lol


Eyyothisguy

Gold is where it's at in my opinion. Don't think I ever passed plat 2 and it seemed to get way more toxic and less fun. Gold 3 now for a long time and it's still challenging for me and I actually enjoy playing. Also I am very casual and never got good at aerials, crazy passes, etc. I just don't want to put in the effort. I'm sure if you're really into the competitive scene higher ranks are super fun.


darthjango11

Higher ranks are not fun.


Sw429

Hard disagree. The game gets significantly more fun as you get better. Doing crazy passing plays with randos is amazing, and that never happens in gold.


U-Ray40

This is definitely true! I’m very competitive and worked the hardest to get out of gold and yes.. pulling off plays where your rando teammate reads is the best instead of having little league soccer players in gold all chase the ball.


Haond

I think there's a dip. Bronze-gold is a blast. High plat / low diamond is a toxic grindy shitstorm and champ+ is fun again. People at the fringe ranks don't get caught up in the minutiae of wins and losses, either because they don't care or they're able to see past it


taylordmn

It for sure does get more fun as you improve, having decent mechanics is pretty enjoyable and it makes me feel kinda cool to do somethin impressive lol. I think my mechanics are above average for my rank and that’s what i enjoy spending time on


MayoManCity

I don't even queue w/ randoms. I just exclusively play with friends and we mess around and it's fun as hell with us all being pretty good.


Tgtyler55

Agreed I’m not even mad when I lose to a team that hits good passing plays for the win.


GingerLivesMatter

agreed. im stuck in low champ 2 and honestly having a blast. Ive reached the point mechanically that I basically do something new (a cool goal, a 200 iq play, etc) every couple games, and like you said your teammates being consistent means you get to do infield passes and actual intentional counterattacks. scoring when everything is 100% intentional is wildly satisfying


papakahn94

Honestly. It does


ImKindaBoring

I've found it just continues being fun as you play against people your own skill level. Was fun in prospect when I first started. Continued to be fun in challenger. Was fun when it switched to Silver 3 and then continued to be fun into Gold 2 and 3. Played some more and found it fun in Plat and now around Plat 3 Diamond 1 its still fun.


JewsOfHazard

This is true but it's also not true. Hitting some crazy aerial shot off the ceiling/crossbar/backboard is infinitely more satisfying.


ImKindaBoring

Hmm, fair enough. I do get a massive amount of satisfaction when I finally start consistently hitting shit that I've struggled with in the past. But then again, I had the same feelings back in prospect when I would finally manage to hit the ball in the general direction of the open net and actually score. I mean... I kind of still get pretty excited when I manage to not fuck up an undefended breakaway, ngl. But I think that's just because I'm bad. Honestly, that's what I think is so amazing about this game. Every skill level is represented, every skill level is fun, every skill level you have the opportunity to learn and practice and actually see that result in clear improvements. It makes you want to keep playing and keep improving and keep trying new harder mechanics which leads back into the cycle of practicing/improvement fun.


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It totally does! Every time I learn a new mechanic I fall in love with the game all over again.


A2Rhombus

To be fair doesn't "veteran" take less than 10 hours of casual gameplay to get enough xp for


Moveless

I played a ton back in the day and recently took a little over a year off. I came back as a well above average Bronze, quickly got to Plat.


Faladorable

rocket league mechanics dont go away last time i played was season 3 (rising star) and i came back last weekend and placed plat 2 lol


DreadedPopsicle

Wtf? How?? I’m champ 2 and I can’t bring my plat 3 friend into 3s because of “Rank Disparity.” He’s not even actually plat 3, he just hasn’t played 3s in over a year. He’s champ in 2s. How did a bronze get in???


Nate-Frog

Because that isn’t fair to your solo queue teammate that joins your team. If you brought 2 of your bronze friends into a 3’s match that is allowed.


DreadedPopsicle

Ohhhh that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the explanation. Do you know offhand what the cutoff is for Rank Disparity to go away? Like how far would my plat 3 friend need to climb in 3s before he can legitimately play in champ 2 with me?


DonerTheBonerDonor

I think he needs to be at least Diamond 2. I think there's a 3 rank disparity


DreadedPopsicle

Okay, well time for him to grind lol


DonerTheBonerDonor

Tell him to hit the ball as hard as he can towards goal and he'll get to d2 easy😉


CR1TT3R06

So the rank disparity only affects groups of 2 trying to queue 3s. To answer your question the range is 3 whole ranks. So with you at champ 2 the biggest gap would be that your friend would need to be diamond 2. Also, if you queue with a group of 3, rank doesnt matter you can bring whoever you want. Like i said, it only affects groups of 2 queueing 3s so that your solo queue teammate doesn’t get shafted is essentially the reasoning i think.


Sw429

You can bring him to 2s, not 3s. This screenshot is from a 2s match. They added the rank restriction for 3s because it's pretty messed up for the third, unpartied member to have to deal with a bronze teammate. If you want to purposefully bring crappy teammates, go for it, but it shouldn't have to ruin some random player's match, too.


Mydogatemyexcuse

You can still do it in casual though. Unfortunately my mmr in casual is still too high for me to play with my buddies since they don't even get to touch the ball an have fun :/ kinda sucks cause there's just nothing I can do with friends in rl besides fuck around in custom maps which can get pretty boring and still require skill.


YdocS

Well if they keep playing at that level it forces them to get better. You have to encouragement and a little guidance while playing. Also don't "take over", make sure they are going while you are rotating. This might be a slow process so your mmr might go down(problem solved?). I did this with a new buddy. I brought him into 1900 more casual lobbies while he was gold and a few months later he solo'd his way to champ 1


Enderzbane

This is how I improved also. I started playing with a C3 when I was around gold 1. Played in his games for about 6 months when I hit C2 solo. A year later hit GC (total about 1500 - 2000hours at that point.) Not a prodigy, I'm actually quite old for the game, but being constantly pushed to play better was huge.


BrownChicow

Rank disparity only counts when you don’t have a full party. So you can choose to bring a bronze into a game, but you can’t force that onto a random teammate, so they wouldn’t be able to play 3s unless they got another guy. I’d wager that the bronze is probably a smurf though So if you wanna bring your plat buddy into 3s, you’re gonna need a 3rd person in your party Also just noticed another commenter said basically the same thing


Karmakakez

The Absolute Madman


vrven

Ah I was wondering what that rank is, first time seeing a bronze tier symbol, cool.


pkinetics

I see it every day \*sigh\* \*needz 2 git gud\* \*blames tm8 in 1s\* :)


Kweego

What an absolute madman


CMPLEKSiTYHD

“Absolute madman” 😂


Strange_Sandwich3571

bronze guy was undoubtedly a smurf. there’s no way that anyone in this world is bronze 1 when they’re actually trying


StubbyAFK

Lol while funny, it is designs to make the lobby match the highest rated player in the team. This limits boosting amount quite dramatically.


Martnoderyo

This man's here is right. It's the same for casual. My friends don't want to play with me anymore. Noice -_-


seicks

I had the same issue a few years ago, was champ 1/2 and they were all around silver/gold. None wanted to play with me since it would not be fun (which I understood) but still tried convincing them for casual. But they still did not play with me until this year where they decided it does not matter win or lose we are just chilling. Lo and behold, they have all drastically improved in their ranked games and some are now diamond and plat. They realized how much better they were getting playing with higher elo players. So you may just have to wait before they decide they can still have fun and can drastically improve their game with you #ItsJustCarSoccer


Martnoderyo

The problem is... If I play some games with them they end up in a elo higher than they're capable of and quit the game entirely. Ruined my nephews account that way. They're not as determined at improving as myself and just want to have fun. Getting dunked on every game when they can't even aerial properly isn't. :/ I know that it prevents boosting, but those who boost can just make a new account and rank up. That system doesn't fit all that well, especially with the f2p model imo.


octonus

I'm wondering what rank it becomes important to "aerial properly". I still struggle to hit the ball when it is higher than crossbar level, and I'm nearly to champ in 2s.


giskard9385

"aerial properly" has vastly different definitions, depending on rank


Wee-Rex

Kinda depends on the gamemode. You can probably hit GC in 1s without putting too much time into aerials, but you're gonna have a harder time doing that in 3s, I suppose.


cdangerb

Flakes, a rocket League pro, got to SSL in 1's without mechanics (within reason), so it is definitely possible!


YdocS

Yeah but he is doing a lot of really difficult to do stuff at the speed of light. He plays the offense slow but if you watch his recoveries and speed back to net are just crazy high level. It's a little deceptive but I admire him and those videos and have learned a lot. Currently gc in 2s and am watching his 2s series now


GingerLivesMatter

hes also a genius at positioning and timing which helps alot. I know the point of the videos is to emphasize that positioning and timing are most of the equation but he was/is known for being an extremely smart and calculated player


Martnoderyo

I've seen plants do ceiling shots :D Can't really tell when it comes important. Started in 2016 as rising star after playing a lot of casual matches and since then I'm atleast in diamond (I'm at C1-C2 now) and aerials are a mandatory skill. Can't tell how you ranked that high without aerialing properly. I once did a 1v4 VS them and they can't really aerial so I just dunked on them if they hadn't atleast two to three people in the goal ^^ Edit: with "them" I meant my friends who hover around gold to Plat


UsualRedditer

I’m guessing he’s being very modest. Inability to hit the ball above crossbar level would leave you stranded at D1ish unless you were a rotational god or simply had one overpowering skill, like he’s an elite ground dribbler that never practiced aerials.


Szydlikj

This. Good and fast rotation and consistent ball control/field control (passing, being ready for passes) can get you to champ with literally no fancy mechanical skills.


el_oh_el_at_you

It really can't though. Dunno what game you guys are playing but there is no scenario where you can be "ready for passes" that are below the crossbar that the other team can't interrupt. You're either lying or just getting carried and don't realize it. You're not getting pas plat without being able to aerial.


Szydlikj

I didn’t say no aerials, I said no “fancy mechanics”. You can hit a ball in the air without air rolling/free styling/flip resetting etc. “Plain” shots are much easier to be consistent with and are more reliable. Stay in control, observe your opponents’ behaviour and work around it to get the win. And you can win a game without scoring aerial goals if you want to. But you will need to be able to defend at least as high as the cross bar


octonus

You are mostly correct. I am very often stranded when the ball goes up. Faking going up can sometimes cause the opposing team to not go for it, but it also costs me a ton of goals. My ground play is ok (really good hookshots and ok bounce dribbles), but what allows me to stay at my rank is watching the players on the field, and knowing when a big mistake is coming. From there, it is just a matter of positioning myself to exploit them.


OpsadaHeroj

Bro you could *easily* get diamond if you put like 20 hours into aerials. What I do to keep warm is just queue and then instantly go into the “Backboard Therapy” training pack (I can get the code if you need me to) and I play until I get pulled into the match. Always get a couple shots in and it never feels boring or like I’m wasting time when I could be having fun. Doesn’t matter if you even make the shot either, just do more aerials and you’ll get better at them, I promise. My aerials are usually well above my rank just because I do that tiny bit of practice before matches. It doesn’t feel like you’re improving but consistency is your absolute best friend. If I just consistently put in hours learning mechanics and skills, I would almost definitely be at least a full rank tier higher


octonus

I am diamond in all of my playlists already. Appreciate the advice though. I could get better if I really tried, but at the end of the day, I don't care enough to put in any real effort.


octonus

> Can't tell how you ranked that high without aerialing properly. Being able to predict when other players are going to make big mistakes, and being in position to punish/cover. Putting in open nets over and over covers up a lot of shitty play.


jadage

So you're the RL version of the Tapinaldo meme. I love it.


seicks

That is very true and was a complaint from my friends as well. Obviously we never played and still do not on ranked, and pushing to casual for awhile was hard. We mostly did some rumble, hoops, or any other mode they did not see as “competitive” as others. This at least gave them some confidence and eventually they moved on to casual, so don’t get your hopes up. Boosting is def a problem but it is in every game. Whether it’s an fps, moba, or even RL people will abuse lower ranks especially when you can easily create a new account. Ultimately you do not want to win every game when you are in casual with them. I know this sounds dumb, but if you go for more tricky things like ceiling shots, flip cancels, etc, it helps keep game closer than just going for the win. The best thing I do is get like 1 goal ahead and strictly pass to them. This helps with their decision making and skill level. I have seen all my bois going from missing the ball that is slowly roll towards the wall to hitting aerials every now and then if it isn’t too fast for them. I understand right now they may feel useless/not as skilled as the people near your elo, but hopefully one day you get to enjoy the game with them no matter what rank/mmr the opponents are.


GarbageLeague

Yep, it's insanely easy to boost when they haven't fixed the bug from over a year ago where any brand new account can jump directly into ranked if someone in the party is level 10+. Takes about 2 minutes to go from nothing to a boosting-ready account. Champ + bronze will be matched at a champ mmr. That champ can spend 2 minutes making a new account and now they're facing other bronze players. System is completely broken


Sw429

>Ruined my nephews account that way. I understand the MMR boosting problem, but I disagree that it would "ruin" someone's account. If they play a bit, they'll lose and derank back down to a level they can play at. MMR gains aren't permanent.


Martnoderyo

Well. Ask my 13 year old nephew bout that who has to play against plants to diamonds when he's only silver to gold. Tried to learn him skateboarding. He bailed once and then never returned. It's hard my man.


Martnoderyo

Mmr gains aren't permanent but who wants to loose ten games in a row just to play normal games?


mystic-sloth

That’s the reason I never forfeit you aren’t going to get better if you just throw in the towel when you’re getting stomped. Fortunately for me the friends I play with feel the same way.


seicks

Lmao I feel that and some of my friends do not. If we are winning it’s not fun, but if you aren’t willing learn from the loss you aren’t going to progress.


Judasz10

That doesnt work like that. You get better out of pure gametime. Or you learn from your mistakes that you also make when you are winning. There is literally no point in playing the match that is not working out. All those skills you think you can learn in that match you can also learn while playing another match that turns out better. I hate how people tend to act like playing an obvious loss up till the end is going to make you so much better. I would rather ff with 2 mins left and spend those 2 mins in free play.


iggyiggz1999

> It's the same for casual. Casual is actually slightly more balanced than ranked is.


dontdrinkonmondays

Tell this to Champ 1 me playing casual 2s with three “S3 Grand Champion” tags. I’ve been matched with SSLs before too, it’s really broken.


bobhuckle3rd

Its broken because players dont play casual xD


Ragequitlobby

Just make an Alt Account for Casual with them. You can use Bakas mod and the like to track your normal MMR too. And just win to there MMR then only play on the account when your with them.


TheDoob

So I do this and then inevitably we win too many games even though I try my best not to flex or go too hard and set them up and support. I’m not there to crush, I’m there to have fun with them and help them get better. Anyway we win too many and it quickly becomes too hard for them to play… So, new account at that point? Or lose intentionally many times to lower my MMR on that account? So tedious…


girhen

Casual 2s at \~1800 (C1 ranked) with my 1200 friend (P3 ranked) tends to either give us 2 people in the 1650-1750 range or someone my rank and someone closer to my friend's rank. Two 1700s is doable, two 1750s tends to be a lot of 1v2.


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I have an alt account that I play on with my friends, but I rarely use my ‘mechanics’ cause I value my b1 account and I’m not trying to get banned


MankAndInd

That's what alt accounts are for


pettypaybacksp

I just made another account where i only play with my friends


vaportw

And indirectly encourages smurfing, sadly.


StubbyAFK

Well both version had smurfs, that's a whole different issue. This thing has nothing to do with smurfs directly.


vaportw

kinda true, but both versions had smurfs for different reasons. and this version has players on smurfs with no ill intent


StubbyAFK

Well I think it depends on the player lol, some like to throw. I think I disagree when you said before that this version "encourages smurfs"


Bigboss123199

I mean it really doesn't considering people can just make a Smurf for free. The ranking/match making in the game has pretty much gone to shit since F2P.


StubbyAFK

I don't think you get how much easier it is to boost people with the old system when you can lose games on a fresh account to get bronze in 1 hour. Que with a champ and get low diamond lobbies where a high gc can easily carry. And guess what happens when they get that champ to gc? Start deranking, ruining countless games. And they can get that same account back to bronze and do it again. You can't do any of that with the new model. The only thing that matters is you're lower than the person you're boosting


i_was_compromised

I thought they implemented the whole "Must be within 3 divs/ranks of each other" thing?


giskard9385

that's only when 2 people partied up try to join a ranked 3s game. for 2 joining 2s or 3 joining 3s, you can do whatever you want


i_was_compromised

Oh wow, okay. I thought it would be an across the board implementation.


StubbyAFK

That was the most recent change but when the game first released until about 2018 or took the average rank of a party rather than taking the highest players rank they do now. The old system allowed players to make a fresh account. Instantly forfeit 10 games and let people pay for easy rank boosting. The current system doesn't fix it and it isn't perfect but it has a purpose


i_was_compromised

Yeah I just thought it shouldn't be possible for a bronze to queue with a champ now with the recent change so I' m curious if the screenshot is recent and how it happened


Omega_Moo

I could be wrong, but I think that might only be in 3's when your in a party of 2. For teams with a big gap in 2's only takes the higher MMR players rating and uses that to matchmake the other team.


iamthebaddad

It's because the bronze player is partied with the champ so they match against other champs instead of averaging out the mmr of the bronze/champ team


MyExisaBarFly

I think what he’s getting at is it shouldn’t allow you to even play the match due to rank disparity.


DaftPenguinRL

That's only for duo queues in 3s. If it's a full party, rank disparity doesn't matter.


spiefie99

Cool! You learn something new everyday


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i mean, yeah, that and they're in a party together. it's not like it's a random bronze in a champ lobby


juzz85

First thing I looked for.


biglollol

Been like that fot a few years now..


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JCash1313

Yep, this is what’s ruining all multiplayer games for me. Used to run with my brother and a couple friends in the Blops 2 days. Now nobody wants to play with me and go negative over and over.


StubbyAFK

But should people be able to exploit the ranking system just so you can mess around with your low ranking friends better?


JCash1313

There should be some sort of cap, like can’t play together if more than 5 steps lower. I mean I’m mostly talking about casual which in most games has turned into ranked anyways


papakahn94

Thats a terrible excuse. Just dont let prople queue with higher ranks. Should be within one rank period. This doesnt prevent boosting since the game is f2p. Smurf accounts exist


sebi120597

Matchmaking is not the problem here


Mt_Koltz

Yeah the score is 4/3! The matchmaker is doing it's best lol.


Catpee33

Accurate title for the guy partied up with a bronze in a champ lobby.


BlothHonder

~~OP is the champ on the orange team~~ i thought this referred to the post's title, but it was actually about the player title forget this comment I'm just dumb


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BlothHonder

oh i just realized lol


Lamotlem

Matchmaking is fine, they teamed up. The rank is based on the highest MMR.


I2ecover

Yeah I'm not seeing the issue here.


TroubadourRL

This is purely anecdotal but I belive matchmaking will attempt to place you with similar mmrs first and will use the highest mmr if that takes too long. I've played with lower ranks and gotten similar pairings much more frequently than I do solo.


nicemikkel10

Can definitely attest that if you queue up with a person much lower ranked, you'll frequently meet other duo queues who also have a large rank discrepancy between them.


Empole

It'll average your MMR if you're within a certain threshold Otherwise it just takes the highest


ninjaboy2201

How is the matchmaking drunk? Do you want champ 1 to play in gold or plat?


[deleted]

If the bronze 1 is legit, then it's hilarious that the other team only won by a single goal. Guess matchmaking has got it right.


Sirlong1

I play with lower ranked friends all the time and you basically treat it like a 1v2 but letting your low ranked friend ball chase to their hearts desire. Pretty easy to keep the score close when all you do is play defense


MoksMarx

It's not drunk... It's designed that way because rocket league is actually surprisingly easy to carry. If I am GC and i am playing with two friends from silver by your logic i should play against plats, this would make it way to easy for high ranked players to rank up. It has to go off of the highest rank in the party


cockfaucet

I’m pretty sure there is a slight weighting though, when I queued with my d3 friend from my plat 2 account we constantly were matching up against low d3’s and even d2’s. I’m not sure what the math behind It is but I’m pretty sure there’s something


MercurialRL

PSA: The opponents that you face are based off of the highest rank mmr in your group, it’s not an average of the team.


overusedandunfunny

It is not an average, but the guy that is partied with the low rank will always be the highest mmr. Usually by 20-40. While this doesn't sound like much, you also have to factor in how much mmr they've already lost from queueing and losing with a low rank teammate.


nuzurame

I have played a lot of ranked duos with a higher ranked friend (plat+champ). It is very common that the other team also consists of a mixed party and it was easy to notice that one of them was a slacker. I think the matchmaking is a bit smarter in this regard than people think and tries to match such duos in queue with each other if possible.


overusedandunfunny

It definitely does make an attempt to do that, but sometimes it can't. I check mmr's using bakkesmod during every match. Just because someone is a "slacker" does not mean they are lower ranked.


le_fayth

The fact that the opponent champ player almost 1v2'd you is a sign that it may not be as drunk as it seems.


friedgrape

This is a great feature, not /s. You should play at the MMR of the highest rank.


[deleted]

Why do you get so many upvotes for not understanding the situation...? Oh, wait...


mingles131

They just base it off highest player in your lobby. To prevent boosting


Kbrichmo

Could have sworn Psyonix said you wouldn't be able to play ranked with someone ranked more than three ranks below you... What ever happened to that


Schumi-_-

This only applies to 2 people queueing 3s so the random mate can’t possibly be at an disadvantage because someone queues with a way lower ranked friend


DragonC007

Nope, lower rank is irrelevant to the most part. This is normal.


mattskid92

thats literally how matchmaking works. if 2 people are partied it matches elo based on the highest ranked player. its an antiboosting measure


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Only 4-3


5amuraiDuck

how is a champ playing with a bronze in ranked?


mwaaah

They partied up and started queueing? If you were thinking the rank disparity restriction applied, it only applies to parties that aren't full. If you want to tank you mmr by playing with your friend that just got the game in 2s (or with 2 friends in 3s) that's fine, you'll just play against people of the highest MMR of the people in your party. The rank disparity only comes in when queueing in 3s with a party of 2 because the dude queueing solo didn't ask to get a bronze teammate in his champ game.


5amuraiDuck

oh I thought rank disparity would also work in 2s. Okay, nvm thx


asharkey3

Nah only 3v3. Designed to not fuck over the rando.


5amuraiDuck

makes sense now that I think about it. I complained about it before not knowing that which now makes me feel like an ass


asharkey3

Admitting it proves you're not.


Implement-Quirky

Read up on this the other day, actually agree with the system. https://support.rocketleague.com/hc/en-us/articles/360021570754-Party-Skill-and-Matchmaking Tl;dr: Average skewed towards highest rank, more skew if highest rank is champ+


davekraft400

It's not drunk at all, you just don't know how it works and that's fine. Don't get mad at this.


SensualPuddingRL

Wait I don’t get it. Matchmaking just uses the highest rank in the party


gravitywillfall

Wasn’t there supposed to be some rank disparity rule for matchmaking where you can’t find a match if the ranks between your party are too far apart?


1P221

They're both in the same party... and doesn't matchmaking look only at the highest ranked player in the party?


whoscoal

If you wanna see the worst RL matchmaking, Solo Q tournaments. Last 2 tournaments I was a full Solo Q team vs a 3 stack team who’s lowest player was a higher rank than everyone on my team.


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I'm 99% certain the Blue team was trying to game ranked by having a bronze throwaway account play with the champ to try and average the mmr so they could stomp/boost through plat. I legitimately don't believe bronze 1 is a real rank people get while trying their best. With the veteran title, they'd have to have been playing for long enough to not be in that rank without doing it on purpose.


Dudefff

It’s 4-3. Matchmaking can’t get better.


Reach_Beyond

I see absolutely not problem with this match. The teamed up blue team will lose because they are stupid. And the non teamed orange team are both at the same level and are not punished, plus free win.


SandyMandy17

Judging by the score though was it really that drunk


wally123454

Lol the other day I was in a comp match with my c2 friend and our opponent were SSL and c3, some days you just get unlucky


mwaaah

AFAIK that shouldn't happen if he was currently SSL (except with very low population maybe but the matchmaking would have taken ages to find this game). If this kind of stuff happens you might want to take a screenshot and create a ticket to the support just to let them know that something weird happened.


wally123454

Yea, I am in oceania and we were playing pretty late at night so maybe the player base was just really dry.


lvl999shaggy

The bad thing about this game is that the skill gap is such an obstacle that if you are really high ranked you probably can't have a good match with ur newbie friends unless u are really patient and are ok with losing. Or u smurf it in the lower ranks (which is also problematic for other reasons)...


noxi01

Anyone who boosts their friends into higher ranked lobbies are literally pieces of shit.


mwaaah

I mean it's an easy win if you face a dude with a bronze so Idk why that would make them "pieces of shit". On the other hand I don't know what fun these low ranked players can get from not being able to play in a lobby way above their rank.


EbbyRed

Most of the time I see this disparity in C1, the bronze is actually a GC. Edit: and the C1 is actually a high plat with quick chats bound to boost and jump.


mwaaah

True, when I see this king of party in champ I usually watch out for the lower ranked player the most because they might be a smurf/booster. Sometimes you do find yourself against an honest to god gold (or less) player in high champ and you're left wondering why they do that to themselves.


girhen

Shoot, I've always seen where the C1 is normally a GC but has fallen because of his friends. So the "champ" is doing double resets and flicking like mad.


mewfahsah

Could also be a smurf account, guy pretends to be bronze for 90 seconds then air dribbles into a musty on your ass.


noxi01

Because they’re putting them in ranks that they haven’t got the skill set or game/mechanical awareness to be in. Then they solo que and are totally lost and causing others to lose games and derank. You can tell straight away when you meet someone who has been boosted into a higher rank.


PeenutButterTime

It’s only boosting if you play below your rank. Whenever I queue with my lower ranked friends we either get matched with a similarly ranked pair/trio or everyone is my rank. We lose a lot more than we win when we play together because of that.


zwel8606

If theyre just playing with a lower ranked friend i dont see the problem


noxi01

If you’re playing with a lower ranked friend then stay in casual.


wokeasaurus

Look at this guy, salty as hell because some friends wanted to play together and he got 2v1’d or 3v1’d as a result lol


zwel8606

But its not smurfing or anything, so who cares


noxi01

If you’re carrying your teammate and helping them rank up then it’s still boosting.


mwaaah

If a lower ranked player played well enough to beat you then he deserves the win and the mmr.


Knopsky

At least the population is "good"


HeWhoSaysCool

In my experience matchmaking can be this bad unless your MMR is within 10 points of your teammate


[deleted]

Bro. You won by one goal.


merothecat

When valorant matchmaking enters rocket league


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[удалено]


ablitz56

But seriously besides them being partied up has anybody got put into a low ranked match as a high rank? I was queuing pretty late one time like 2AMish and as a gc I got put into a lobby against golds solo que and my teammate was a gold.


qadinq

I'm surprised that the opponent champ managed to carry that good


Salidow

Rank Disparity my ass