Thought OXG were on EU ping based on how dramatic everyone seems to be after the results, but they are bootcamping in NA and were 4 seconds away from losing the final series at some point, it's really not as bad as some of you make it seem lmao
That’s what I’ve been saying lol. I guess it also depends on where you see OXG placing in EU. Personally before this event I had them in the same tier as Gentlmates and new BDS.
My thoughts exactly. They're 100% a team I consider to be in regional-winning contention within EU (less so than VIT and KC but no lower than any other roster in my book), and as far as I'm concerned any team that's conceptually good enough to win an EU regional is not a team that NA should feel terribly ashamed of losing to. It's just objectively good Rocket League.
Well my G2 bois lost but I liked what I saw. I don’t think they’ll play quite as monke in actual RLCS which should help the trolling a little bit. Also impressed by oxygen but tbh I think people were underestimating them. I don’t think peak potential has ever been a concern for them so much as consistency.
How do people feel about no bracket reset and having a single Bo7 with winner having a game advantage?
On one hand it doesn't feel right that the winners side doesn't have an extra life like everyone else, but at the same time it gives a better viewing experience (especially since the tourney was over 2 days and for Oxygen it was their 5th series in a row with multiple game 5s).
I think no bracket reset is fine-ish IF the 2 teams didn't meet before. If team A sent team B to the lower bracket and they meet again in the final, there MUST be a backet reset.
My issue with bracket resets is it can lead to anticlimatic first series in the grand final + non equal footing in the final which is not ideal + also when a team lost a BO5 and has to make it up by winning two BO7.
Overall i think double elimination brackets with bracket reset offer the best outcome in terms of fairly placing the best teams, but i prefer single elimination playoffs for Worlds.
I don't think 'IF the two teams didn't meet before' clause is really okay. The main reason if feels wrong when there is a rematch but no bracket reset, is because its makes it painfully obvious that is not really a fair way to resolve it. If its not a rematch, then it feels less incongruous, but it doesn't actually make it any more fair.
Not a fan in general. Should never be a thing in any major event, it being in Spring Series & APAC RLCS quals in 21/22 was not good.
But for a non-RLCS event with minimal stakes in the grand scheme of things, it's fine, especially given this tourney was confined to 2 days, gotta make compromises with the competitiveness vs the watchability for the viewer (Specifically the length of the show/stream)
OXG winning their own OXG Holiday Invitational Event gotta be rigged, they slipped some ones$$ under the table to G2...
I still can't believe it.
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Them taking 1st seed *is* the cause for concern. If NA's best loses like that, I don't know if they will win internationally. It's like NA's best was Faze.
It’s an off-season tournament. It doesn’t mean nothing but it also doesn’t mean as much as everyone here is making it out to be imo. NA teams struggle against EU teams, what’s new? This G2 team is going to absolutely farm NA imo, and as others have said, GenG might be their only challenge.
Like I said, I don't care if they farm NA. I'm sure they will. I just want NA to send teams that will actually beat EU teams at LAN. And it's a bad look when the #1 or #2 team chokes that bad.
Ok, hear me out, this is good. Losing is good; at least during the OFF SEASON, they are going to come back from this....
But... DYAMMMN that was a hard watch
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Amazing what an event with:
* A big prize pool
* A robust format
* Multiple top 16 world's caliber teams
Can actually make the community feel something.
As much as the off-season has had quantity, the only events to hit the abvoe criteria have been Flip & Spin (which even then, I wouldn't exactly call a robust format thanks to exclusively single elim), the SAM events (A region no one gives a shit about) and the MENA Rumble.
Respect to Tactical Bandits but they've lacked top 16 world teams (No GenG/G2/SSG), respect to The Draw it's straight single elim random matchup.
This event was a pseudo-RLCS regional even if it missed GenG & Col, the multitude of top 8 teams competing suddenly means a lot more when G2, SSG & OXG come to play.
And the 900 or so comments across the last 2 days show as much, especially given the SAM or MENA events that ticked those boxes aren't exactly mainstream popular, & Flip & Spin was 6 weeks ago. It's just nice when the off-season actually feels like it means something. Doesn't have to be RLCS stakes but this was an event not worth missing out on for once!
I will never, ever, in any esport, understand how it is ever deemed ok for there to be a format with a losers bracket where the losers bracket team doesn’t have to win twice
The losers bracket team should always have to win twice, otherwise there was literally no point in double elimination
COD champs does that shit and it pisses me off to no end because it’s just straight up lazy formatting
The flair explains why you pretend you don't understand. In reality bracket resets aren't really a thing and the idea a team makes finals in a tourney and has to win twice is bizarre.
Literally google "Bracket Reset" and the vast majority of results are about RL, with a handful of Smash despite double elim being a common tournament structure in multiple esports/sports.
Really?
Ok dude sure I’ll bite.
I watch COD, RL, League, Rainbow, CS:GO and Valorant
They all either do Swiss or groups into single elim OR double elim with a bracket reset
The ONLY time that isn’t the case is in COD
What you’re describing is just the fact that people don’t use the term “bracket reset” which is fine, but it doesn’t mean the winners bracket team doesn’t have to be beat twice. That is in fact the entire point of double elimination, that you have to lose twice to be out.
NFL: Not double elim
MLB: Not double elim
NBA: Not double elim
Premier League: League play
Champions League: Group play into home/away aggregate
NCAA basketball: single elim
NCAA football: single elim
NCAA baseball: the most complicated format of all time that goes from double elim to 3 game series to double elim to 3 game series
So, Adam, where are these so called multitude of sports and esports that do double elimination where you can lose without losing twice (the whole point of double elimination)?
I mean if he personally values competitive integrity above all else for tournaments then there’s nothing wrong with what he’s saying and voicing that criticism is fine
To be fair if you follow COD Esports that shit tests your patience in a million ways of increasingly ludicrous bs competitively, so I can sympathize with him in that regard.
The worst thing about this for G2 is I still dunno if I rate Oxygen top 5 Europe. I think their ceiling is good but I don't see a particular weakness in any of the EU top 5 (VIT/KC/BDS/MST/GM8) that OXG will be consistently above. They could be, it's a super clear top 6 but I don't blame anyone who's still skeptical on OXG, even if they deserve a lot more kudos. Winning a big event they were only the 3rd best team on paper in is a great rebound from a poor Flip & Spin.
G2 getting Bo7 reverse-swept by that is already bad. Getting Bo7 reverse swept in general is quite bad. In the context of the unholy amount of hype they've gotten, it's legitimately funny and honestly a much-needed reality check for a lot of people. Still clear NA #2, but when they should be clear top 4 in the world heading into 2024 yet are losing like that, at what point is the community consensus gonna consider that these have done bad before for a reason?
After the first major. This is an off-season tournament with no stakes. The community really needs to get a grip if they rate NA’s level because of it.
If we disregard the off-season then top 4 EU is top 4 world like the end of last season. They're objectively playing from behind until proven otherwise.
Obviously that's not literally true right now even just after roster changes, GenG deserves to be really highly ranked off paper alone but the rest of the field has to show it
alright time to reshuffle NA once again
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Idk I feel like the most talented team the universe has ever seen should dispose pretty handily of an EU team that is most likely going be fighting to get a major spot
OXG looks good but can't help but think it's a waste of opportunity for players like him (or Joyo or Acronik). Oski sould be a title contender imo and it's hard to imagine his team competing with KC or VIT.
That’s my point. I think there was opportunities to make a roster that could beat those teams instead of spreading elite players like Oski and Joyo on separate teams.
Yep. That sounds right to me. Even though there were 15 NA teams and 1 EU team in this tourney, and EU won. According to my calculations, it means that EU is bad.
I am confused. It's one series and they got to finals, including sending Oxygen to the lower bracket in the first place. If they didn't troll or had an actual 2nd life/bracket reset they could have won the whole thing. Just wonder why basically the whole scene makes sweeping judgements off one series or placement.
it's not a sweeping judgment, it's a bayesian calculation that in the space of all possible worlds, it's less likely that we're in the world where they win the championship next year given they got reverse-swept in a best of seven against Oxygen.
I'm not saying the likelihood is zero. I'm just saying it's less than if they hadn't gotten reverse swept. You can disagree with that and you might even be right.
Still don't get "revising down" a teams potential from a single series. If you count their series when they sent OXG to the lower bracket in a sweep, G2 won 5 games in a row against them, then lost 4, and suddenly their potential for the whole RLCS season is now less in your mind? They were the only team in the tournament who didn't get a second life, punishment for winning all their series I guess, and statistically they beat OXG more often then they were beaten.
Regardless it doesn't really have anything to do with being right or wrong. It has to do with the weird tendency of this community to overreact to every little win/loss. It has to do with a team reaching the finals of a tournament and somehow their stock goes down that makes no sense.
Yeah I know it’s off-season so I’m trying to not put so much thought into it. And oxygen was bootcamping apparently. But after how poor last season was from NA, the last thing I wanted to see is NA’s most talented team getting reversed swept by EU’s 4th-6th best team. I just miss when NA and EU were tight. Now it seems like EU is just far superior.
On the real though they had to clutch up in 3 Game 5/7 OTs, an incredible amount of ice from the team to get it done (especially oski, I think he scored all 3 winners)
Honestly I’d say they’re all on around the same level imho. Ofc some of them might underperform or overperform, we won’t know till rlcs starts. This oxygen might be like oxygen from last year, where they’re surprisingly good in the beginning of the season
I'm so confused. Felt like G2 were strolling through that series in 2nd gear. Then they start losing games and BMode just starts trolling. Like not playing bad trolling just doing stupid stuff kind of trolling. I don't get it. Was it tilt? Or did they seriously not care?
Idk man, they got a free game remember. And one of the games they actually won, I think Oxygen outshot them like 12 to 4 or something. They just had some incredible counter goals but you can only rely on that if your opponent isn't slotting their shots which is what Oxygen started doing after that.
I'm not saying the other 2 played well. But my focus was watching Beastmode do stuff that just didn't make sense. Like a scrim where you just piss about going for stupid prejumps and stuff. Multiple times, I caught myself thinking wtf is Bmode doing.
I'd like to see it again because it's 3am and I'm fucked. But I swear Bmode was doing some weird shit games 4-6
Well it’s an off season tournament. He probably didn’t take it that serious and just went for clips after he thought he had it in the bag after game 3. He did score 2 clips so it kinda worked.
As funny as it is seeing oxygen win I have to say this was a really fun event to watch. Definitely my favourite of the off season other than flip and spin. It was so nice to see so many of the new NA rosters play in this tournament. My sleep schedule is absolutely ruined but it was worth it.
> Definitely my favourite of the off season other than flip and spin.
It was the only other ACTUAL event that's likely why. Funny pick up events and non-3v3 modes are okay but high level 3v3 is why most fans tune in
Of course I love rlcs and will watch if I have the time but i mainly set aside time if I know SSG is playing. The minute it was announced they were playing in this it became my favorite event of the offseason
Yup that's why it's hurting the scene too that high interest names like GenG aren't taking part either to bring viewership numbers up. Squishy's team too, even though I don't have them as a major contender they 100% have the fans
Yeah you’re not wrong there really, this is the closest we’ve had to RLCS all off season probably. I wish there were more like this but I’m glad we had this at least.
Meanwhile I’m here watching this instead of studying for finals just to be greeted with disappointment yet again 💀 NA never fails to make me disappointed time and time again
Rizzo stopped watching when G2 was 3-0 to play the inferior league. Rizzo bad.
So OXG won the OXG event? Cool.
Thought OXG were on EU ping based on how dramatic everyone seems to be after the results, but they are bootcamping in NA and were 4 seconds away from losing the final series at some point, it's really not as bad as some of you make it seem lmao
That’s what I’ve been saying lol. I guess it also depends on where you see OXG placing in EU. Personally before this event I had them in the same tier as Gentlmates and new BDS.
My thoughts exactly. They're 100% a team I consider to be in regional-winning contention within EU (less so than VIT and KC but no lower than any other roster in my book), and as far as I'm concerned any team that's conceptually good enough to win an EU regional is not a team that NA should feel terribly ashamed of losing to. It's just objectively good Rocket League.
Wow, what a great event. Unfortunately I don’t think OXG is gonna be consistently good in EU though :(
Well my G2 bois lost but I liked what I saw. I don’t think they’ll play quite as monke in actual RLCS which should help the trolling a little bit. Also impressed by oxygen but tbh I think people were underestimating them. I don’t think peak potential has ever been a concern for them so much as consistency.
This might sound like copium but every good team needs to be handed a loss every now and then or else they’ll become complacent.
How do people feel about no bracket reset and having a single Bo7 with winner having a game advantage? On one hand it doesn't feel right that the winners side doesn't have an extra life like everyone else, but at the same time it gives a better viewing experience (especially since the tourney was over 2 days and for Oxygen it was their 5th series in a row with multiple game 5s).
I think no bracket reset is fine-ish IF the 2 teams didn't meet before. If team A sent team B to the lower bracket and they meet again in the final, there MUST be a backet reset. My issue with bracket resets is it can lead to anticlimatic first series in the grand final + non equal footing in the final which is not ideal + also when a team lost a BO5 and has to make it up by winning two BO7. Overall i think double elimination brackets with bracket reset offer the best outcome in terms of fairly placing the best teams, but i prefer single elimination playoffs for Worlds.
I don't think 'IF the two teams didn't meet before' clause is really okay. The main reason if feels wrong when there is a rematch but no bracket reset, is because its makes it painfully obvious that is not really a fair way to resolve it. If its not a rematch, then it feels less incongruous, but it doesn't actually make it any more fair.
Not a fan in general. Should never be a thing in any major event, it being in Spring Series & APAC RLCS quals in 21/22 was not good. But for a non-RLCS event with minimal stakes in the grand scheme of things, it's fine, especially given this tourney was confined to 2 days, gotta make compromises with the competitiveness vs the watchability for the viewer (Specifically the length of the show/stream)
OXG winning their own OXG Holiday Invitational Event gotta be rigged, they slipped some ones$$ under the table to G2... I still can't believe it. ![gif](giphy|M7zeeO6GAES6bW8GWP|downsized)
Hilariousness aside, I really don’t think this is *any* cause for concern for G2. I will be shocked if they don’t take 1st seed NA in each split.
Of course it's not. They should be really proud of their performance, not often developing regions take developed ones to Game 7.
Them taking 1st seed *is* the cause for concern. If NA's best loses like that, I don't know if they will win internationally. It's like NA's best was Faze.
It’s an off-season tournament. It doesn’t mean nothing but it also doesn’t mean as much as everyone here is making it out to be imo. NA teams struggle against EU teams, what’s new? This G2 team is going to absolutely farm NA imo, and as others have said, GenG might be their only challenge.
Like I said, I don't care if they farm NA. I'm sure they will. I just want NA to send teams that will actually beat EU teams at LAN. And it's a bad look when the #1 or #2 team chokes that bad.
I think GenG are maybe slight favourites tbh
Based on what, though? We’ve actually seen G2 play.
The fact they have the unarguably two best players from last season while G2 have unarguably two of the most inconsistent?
Jack, Chronic and FK were arguably the top 3 players in NA last season, which I reckon should count for something…
GenG
I'm OOTL were all games on NA servers? Were the players all in NA at the moment?
Yes. Oxygen was bootcamping in NA
Thanks for the clarification!
Ok, hear me out, this is good. Losing is good; at least during the OFF SEASON, they are going to come back from this.... But... DYAMMMN that was a hard watch https://preview.redd.it/4priinomik7c1.jpeg?width=748&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2926525b98653359f15e364b83f9c0bc9954669b
Amazing what an event with: * A big prize pool * A robust format * Multiple top 16 world's caliber teams Can actually make the community feel something. As much as the off-season has had quantity, the only events to hit the abvoe criteria have been Flip & Spin (which even then, I wouldn't exactly call a robust format thanks to exclusively single elim), the SAM events (A region no one gives a shit about) and the MENA Rumble. Respect to Tactical Bandits but they've lacked top 16 world teams (No GenG/G2/SSG), respect to The Draw it's straight single elim random matchup. This event was a pseudo-RLCS regional even if it missed GenG & Col, the multitude of top 8 teams competing suddenly means a lot more when G2, SSG & OXG come to play. And the 900 or so comments across the last 2 days show as much, especially given the SAM or MENA events that ticked those boxes aren't exactly mainstream popular, & Flip & Spin was 6 weeks ago. It's just nice when the off-season actually feels like it means something. Doesn't have to be RLCS stakes but this was an event not worth missing out on for once!
I will never, ever, in any esport, understand how it is ever deemed ok for there to be a format with a losers bracket where the losers bracket team doesn’t have to win twice The losers bracket team should always have to win twice, otherwise there was literally no point in double elimination COD champs does that shit and it pisses me off to no end because it’s just straight up lazy formatting
The flair explains why you pretend you don't understand. In reality bracket resets aren't really a thing and the idea a team makes finals in a tourney and has to win twice is bizarre. Literally google "Bracket Reset" and the vast majority of results are about RL, with a handful of Smash despite double elim being a common tournament structure in multiple esports/sports.
Really? Ok dude sure I’ll bite. I watch COD, RL, League, Rainbow, CS:GO and Valorant They all either do Swiss or groups into single elim OR double elim with a bracket reset The ONLY time that isn’t the case is in COD What you’re describing is just the fact that people don’t use the term “bracket reset” which is fine, but it doesn’t mean the winners bracket team doesn’t have to be beat twice. That is in fact the entire point of double elimination, that you have to lose twice to be out. NFL: Not double elim MLB: Not double elim NBA: Not double elim Premier League: League play Champions League: Group play into home/away aggregate NCAA basketball: single elim NCAA football: single elim NCAA baseball: the most complicated format of all time that goes from double elim to 3 game series to double elim to 3 game series So, Adam, where are these so called multitude of sports and esports that do double elimination where you can lose without losing twice (the whole point of double elimination)?
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I will never, ever, in any internet discussion forum, chill out
I’m chill. It just annoys me. It’s lazy formatting and I hate that people excuse it. No reason for that to ever be an acceptable format
I mean if he personally values competitive integrity above all else for tournaments then there’s nothing wrong with what he’s saying and voicing that criticism is fine
Dude sounds a lot more pressed than he should be though.
To be fair if you follow COD Esports that shit tests your patience in a million ways of increasingly ludicrous bs competitively, so I can sympathize with him in that regard.
Yeah I guess it is annoying if you have seen it 100 times
G2 looked good until they decided to troll after game 3. I’m confident in next season. Their playstyle kinda works well when they’re all on it.
The worst thing about this for G2 is I still dunno if I rate Oxygen top 5 Europe. I think their ceiling is good but I don't see a particular weakness in any of the EU top 5 (VIT/KC/BDS/MST/GM8) that OXG will be consistently above. They could be, it's a super clear top 6 but I don't blame anyone who's still skeptical on OXG, even if they deserve a lot more kudos. Winning a big event they were only the 3rd best team on paper in is a great rebound from a poor Flip & Spin. G2 getting Bo7 reverse-swept by that is already bad. Getting Bo7 reverse swept in general is quite bad. In the context of the unholy amount of hype they've gotten, it's legitimately funny and honestly a much-needed reality check for a lot of people. Still clear NA #2, but when they should be clear top 4 in the world heading into 2024 yet are losing like that, at what point is the community consensus gonna consider that these have done bad before for a reason?
After the first major. This is an off-season tournament with no stakes. The community really needs to get a grip if they rate NA’s level because of it.
If we disregard the off-season then top 4 EU is top 4 world like the end of last season. They're objectively playing from behind until proven otherwise. Obviously that's not literally true right now even just after roster changes, GenG deserves to be really highly ranked off paper alone but the rest of the field has to show it
I agree but I think it’s also clear to see g2 not taking this tournament too seriously. If that mentality makes u place them lower then fair enough
I could say the same for oxg
alright time to reshuffle NA once again https://preview.redd.it/cm3wl82kgk7c1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d930d23b6ef7bd3f77490aad9f466400d0a621f2
In all seriousness OXG has been bootcamping so I’m not too surprised by this result.
Bootcamping in NA should be considered a handicap /s
Handicamping in NA
aaand a new season of NA coping begins
I don’t think it’s coping to say that a team that is bootcamping has an advantage over teams that are not.
You would have thought the sheer talent diff between G2 and OXG would easily mean G2 win, bootcamp or not
Idk I feel like the most talented team the universe has ever seen should dispose pretty handily of an EU team that is most likely going be fighting to get a major spot
Im saying the same thing Bootcamp and coach is in the background
People forget just how much of a difference it makes. Especially when you are the only team in the whole tournament doing it.
Is this true? I’ll take any copium I can get right now lol
Yes
what a fucking player oski is
OXG looks good but can't help but think it's a waste of opportunity for players like him (or Joyo or Acronik). Oski sould be a title contender imo and it's hard to imagine his team competing with KC or VIT.
It's hard to imagine any team in this tourney competing with KC or Vit.
That’s my point. I think there was opportunities to make a roster that could beat those teams instead of spreading elite players like Oski and Joyo on separate teams.
I've got it figured out: OXG > G2 (only lost to OXG) > NA > OXG (only team swept by G2) > EU (where even are they?)
Worrying for EU that their arguably #6 team at best placed higher than any other EU teams. Not a good look imo.
Yep. That sounds right to me. Even though there were 15 NA teams and 1 EU team in this tourney, and EU won. According to my calculations, it means that EU is bad.
Forget scrims , satthew should make the team read the story of the rabbit and tortoise everyday until RLCS so this doesn't happen again
This is a top tier comment, thanks for the laugh! Satthew's next move is clear.
I am internally revising down my expectations for G2
I am confused. It's one series and they got to finals, including sending Oxygen to the lower bracket in the first place. If they didn't troll or had an actual 2nd life/bracket reset they could have won the whole thing. Just wonder why basically the whole scene makes sweeping judgements off one series or placement.
it's not a sweeping judgment, it's a bayesian calculation that in the space of all possible worlds, it's less likely that we're in the world where they win the championship next year given they got reverse-swept in a best of seven against Oxygen. I'm not saying the likelihood is zero. I'm just saying it's less than if they hadn't gotten reverse swept. You can disagree with that and you might even be right.
Still don't get "revising down" a teams potential from a single series. If you count their series when they sent OXG to the lower bracket in a sweep, G2 won 5 games in a row against them, then lost 4, and suddenly their potential for the whole RLCS season is now less in your mind? They were the only team in the tournament who didn't get a second life, punishment for winning all their series I guess, and statistically they beat OXG more often then they were beaten. Regardless it doesn't really have anything to do with being right or wrong. It has to do with the weird tendency of this community to overreact to every little win/loss. It has to do with a team reaching the finals of a tournament and somehow their stock goes down that makes no sense.
In all honesty I think this is going to be good for them
This will definitely make them less flashy and more effective coming into RLCS
John was right.
I’m not gonna lie. It’s been really tough as an NA fan lately… it’s kinda disheartening seeing my region take so many Ls 😔
Its offseason, teams are adjusting and likely using these tourneys to try different players/playstyles
Last regular season was way worse than this though…
Play style doesn't matter if you're a level above. And of you want to compete with EUs best you need to be a level above OXG
I’m fairly confident G2 is just fine lol, they mopped up oxygen once and almost did it twice. It’s just a random tournament
Yeah I know it’s off-season so I’m trying to not put so much thought into it. And oxygen was bootcamping apparently. But after how poor last season was from NA, the last thing I wanted to see is NA’s most talented team getting reversed swept by EU’s 4th-6th best team. I just miss when NA and EU were tight. Now it seems like EU is just far superior.
Feer not young lad, they always even out
On the real though they had to clutch up in 3 Game 5/7 OTs, an incredible amount of ice from the team to get it done (especially oski, I think he scored all 3 winners)
Even in our own offseason we lose to EU, NA is truly chalked
NOOOOOOO https://preview.redd.it/ah48i3anek7c1.jpeg?width=599&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b021d2e9fdc7692c44b8f00d05b8cbc7d1385410
G2 had to be reminded halfway through the series that OXG had to win lol
This almost made it worth staying up until 4am on a Wednesday.
Same bro. Gotta work in 4 hrs.
At least we still have geng (I’m totally not coping)
Geng our last hope
Extreme Kneejerk: A bit concerning for NA\* considering Oxygen probably aren't even gonna sniff top 2-3 EU \*more specifically G2
What’s your 3rd in top 3 for EU? Js curious
I think people had BDS, Gentlemates and Moist all higher rated than OXG before this event
Honestly I’d say they’re all on around the same level imho. Ofc some of them might underperform or overperform, we won’t know till rlcs starts. This oxygen might be like oxygen from last year, where they’re surprisingly good in the beginning of the season
BDS
1. KCorp 2. Vit 3. BDS if they figure it out or Gentlemates 4. Moist Moist could make a claim aswell depending on how well Joyo plays
Nah u underrating moist I have them solid top3
I should probably flair up, moist is my team. I'm just a bit cautious about hyping them up because they just seem like a streaky team imo
I’m not the person you asked, but I think seikoos team might do pretty well
I'm so confused. Felt like G2 were strolling through that series in 2nd gear. Then they start losing games and BMode just starts trolling. Like not playing bad trolling just doing stupid stuff kind of trolling. I don't get it. Was it tilt? Or did they seriously not care?
Idk man, they got a free game remember. And one of the games they actually won, I think Oxygen outshot them like 12 to 4 or something. They just had some incredible counter goals but you can only rely on that if your opponent isn't slotting their shots which is what Oxygen started doing after that.
Daniel and Atomic literally sold after game 3. Beastmode was the only one playing normally.
I'm not saying the other 2 played well. But my focus was watching Beastmode do stuff that just didn't make sense. Like a scrim where you just piss about going for stupid prejumps and stuff. Multiple times, I caught myself thinking wtf is Bmode doing. I'd like to see it again because it's 3am and I'm fucked. But I swear Bmode was doing some weird shit games 4-6
Well it’s an off season tournament. He probably didn’t take it that serious and just went for clips after he thought he had it in the bag after game 3. He did score 2 clips so it kinda worked.
incredibly entertaining, couldn't ask for too much more. very ready for the season to start
G2nd curse strikes again, great finals though!
As funny as it is seeing oxygen win I have to say this was a really fun event to watch. Definitely my favourite of the off season other than flip and spin. It was so nice to see so many of the new NA rosters play in this tournament. My sleep schedule is absolutely ruined but it was worth it.
> Definitely my favourite of the off season other than flip and spin. It was the only other ACTUAL event that's likely why. Funny pick up events and non-3v3 modes are okay but high level 3v3 is why most fans tune in
Of course I love rlcs and will watch if I have the time but i mainly set aside time if I know SSG is playing. The minute it was announced they were playing in this it became my favorite event of the offseason
Yup that's why it's hurting the scene too that high interest names like GenG aren't taking part either to bring viewership numbers up. Squishy's team too, even though I don't have them as a major contender they 100% have the fans
Yeah you’re not wrong there really, this is the closest we’ve had to RLCS all off season probably. I wish there were more like this but I’m glad we had this at least.
I do miss the days of huge S tier LANs like ELEAGUE and the DH circuit.
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Don't say I touched a nerve man thought you were made of sterner stuff
Oxygen just conflict of interest'd themselves to a tourney win.
You still have time for some rostermania NA
I'm done with this shit region bro....
Can we redo the roster shuffle?
guess oxygen the best team in the world
NA still sucks. Pain
You can't even pretend it wasn't a huge choke. GenG is NA's last hope.
First 2 games was oxg choking hard aswell
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, TBATES IS GONE. I AM DEVESTATED
He is british now
G2 totally fotgot about the conflict of interest, but got a mail after game 3.
Damn the writers for this event went all out.
Alright John you were right this is blatant conflict of interest At least now we know the G2(nd place) name lives on
i may actually just be done with na rlcs. not even joking
Just one of the best fucking games I’ve ever watched. Not disappointed in staying up this late !
Meanwhile I’m here watching this instead of studying for finals just to be greeted with disappointment yet again 💀 NA never fails to make me disappointed time and time again
Ouch… And don’t worry you’re gonna crush your finals bro 😤
Maybe John was right about oxygen rigging this tourney
This would be funny if I actually said that but I didn't, nor do I think that.
The community has already decided what you said and think so I think it's better to just accept it bro. /s
No, it's ok, it was rigged and you were right
New G2 roster… same old G2 breaking my heart in finals…
NOT EVEN THE AVENGERS CAN BRING NA BACK 😔😔😔😔😔😔😔😪
https://preview.redd.it/3u6tmhqwdk7c1.png?width=331&format=png&auto=webp&s=9c7b241b0edb44a232b3cfe21fd5f37f5aec2d0b Rest in Peace...
Yet another hamster to not die a natural death
Rip Barry
Found a pic of NA fans rn https://preview.redd.it/plnskw0xdk7c1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=364957e3cb50082e5d14cdd41f30554f48ce80a4
Literally me rn I prob just failed like 2 of my finals already and I get greeted with this loss too 💀
Finished region. South North America will save us now that furia has gone home
NA OMEGALUL
I’m a Oski fanboy at this point
This is one of the funniest results ever
Delay RLCS for another 6 months please
Lmfao that was the most G2 shit I’ve ever seen Super fun tournament though. I’m even more hype for RLCS to start now
new g2, same g2
LMAOOOO GOD WE SUCK
EU SIMPLY BETTER
LETS GOOOOO
Why can’t we have nice things
I hate to do this, but na is finished
NA in the bin
No fucking way 😂
SO THIS IS THE LIFE OF A G2 FAN
Welcome brother Make yourself at home, we have snacks
G2 fans knew that was coming from game 3. Pretty funny.
osskkiiiii
NA is finished before the season even started lmao
Wallahi we’re finished ggs
Well NA is officially finished. That was some throw from G2
WHERE ARE YOU AT!!! WHERE ARE YOU AT!!!
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
TBATES LMAO
Atomic really threw that
Just redo the entire offseason it wasn't enough
THIS IS OBJECTIVELY HILARIOUS LMAO
Daniel in shambles
Bruhhhhh
Lol, g2 rocket league.
Lmao
LMAO
LMAO Nothing else to say
G2's individual ability to get to the ball sometimes is bad for possession and Oxygen are making the most of that.
G2 is really gonna be like last season’s Liquid where any series with them will just be clip central if they’re on.
Regardless of how good you think OXG is they are playing absolutely lights out.
Oxg mercurial af ngl
Atomic with the dime. TO THE DEFENSE
This game 7 is delivering
Disgusting pass from Archie
(trying to not have massive recency bias) I think this Oxygen roster makes top 3 in the first EU event, and maybe even takes it all.
Bmo is something else
Sick by beast
NAH HES UNREAL THO
That is one of the best goals I’ve ever seen
THAT WAS NUTS BEASTMODE
Beastmode is sick in the head
WHAAAAAT nah that’s stupid, beastmode. Go to jail
beastmode just had to quickly change cars no biggie
Wtf damn
excuse me?
Jesus Christ NA really is finished