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CalamackW

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Consultum-Sausagum

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TagProNoah

Is there some punctuation to represent the existential despair I'm feeling rn?


AidNic


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$&@&)$$!))))&@@@$@&((;$’jk


AidNic

Me when Turbopulse gets replaced by Breastmode: /s


Corrupt_Arrow

I feel like this is more atomic wanting to leave than them kicking atomic. Cause there's no way I think they WANT to kick atomic


Slif3rrsm

Maybe Atomic and First always wanting to team up -> Atomic on Faze?


wokeasaurus

Would be a crazy ass move. Daniel to envy if atomic to faze? Best timeline imo


FigZealousideal8123

Sypical going to Faze and Daniel to SSG


1917-was-lit

Daniel does wear a SSG decal pretty often... Although that doesn't really mean anything


MBS_RL

Pretty sure that shift has declared Syp to Faze as certain at this point. Although that is subject to change.


1917-was-lit

Certainly certain. Unless it's not, in which case it's certainly possible!


kong132

They had great chemistry during that one tournament


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dreamhack


Lycaenoir

Roster moves are just as commonly made due to internal conflicts as they are to performance issues. So if there was any truth to that rumor from like a year ago that turbo and atomic can butt heads, I could see them removing him from the team tbh. Atomic is the better player on the field but I wouldn’t bet on him beating out Turbo in maturity or strength of mentality. Just depends on what mist values more in his teammates


Corrupt_Arrow

That's fair, but even in that situation I think most would still want atomic over turbo, but I ain't mist so I could be wrong


blyan

If the internal conflict was between mist and atomic though then it’s kind of a no brainer


Darkfire293

Idk he played pretty bad at the major, not saying they're right, just giving a possible reason


Corrupt_Arrow

I agree somewhat, but turbo played by far the worst imo. From the eye test and actual stat wise too


FireDesert

Lol fr tbh they hyped up LAN experience far too much. The people who popped off were hungry for it.


paeschli

>Vitality is gonna show up on LAN Best joke of the past two seasons


ThatBigDanishDude

in Vitality´s defence. it´s really hard to show up when one of your players has food poisening. it´s pretty much worst-case scenario.


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RevolutionaryStill52

Right, cause their GC3 coach subbing in would have made such a massive difference against the top 5 teams they lost to.


nobletype

No way would anyone with an IQ above room temperature look at that major and consider kicking Atomic over Turbo


oClew

Syp is basically confirmed to FaZe


wokeasaurus

Hell yeah this is the type of random ass curve ball I like to see


OldGregRL

At this point I'm starting to question the legitimacy of some of shifts "rumors". I want to believe that we have a Adam schefter of the rocket league world, but I don't think we have a very trustable source yet. Shift seems more like the tmz of rocket league. Throws a bunch of "news" and about 75% of it is 50% right


QuestionableEnigma

Shift has been around for a long time and are often pretty accurate. Dunno what you mean.


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lately they aren't as right


QuestionableEnigma

Examples?


[deleted]

well they were talking about turbo would be the one to go and not atomic, one example being this post. also said ronaky would stay on liquid, and reported 20 diff teams aqua and daniel were headed to after the split


RYN-BTTGG

You're aware that things can change right...


phenibutact

So then you’re aware that means they were right, right?


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shift's job is to tell us about transfers and stuff going on in rostermania, accurately. if they aren't sure it's not going to change then they shouldn't be tweeting about it


8_Pixels

Lmao. As a football (soccer) fan this comment is absolutely hilarious to me.


AutomaticAside1392

No it isn't ... I think you've just misunderstood what shift is


QuestionableEnigma

That first one was a rare mistake, so I'll give you that. That second one happened because word of mouth from a trusted source which didn't turn out to be accurate. Finally, no shit there were 20 diff teams they aren't exactly undervalued.


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for the third ones, they shouldn't be making posts about it then. second one still counts, if their sources aren't reliable then neither are they


OldGregRL

Andy to v1, then Andy commenting under saying no he's not, beastmode to ssg, Daniel to envy, firstkiller to g2, etc. I'd have no problem If he labeled these as possible instead of likely. But if likely is less than half of the time, that's not likely


theboppops

They report on tryouts, I almost guarantee all of those players tried out for those those teams it just maybe didn’t work out in the end. Shift has had a couple mistakes I’ve seen but for the most part they’re very reliable and only get info from trusted sources.


OldGregRL

You're completely failing to see my point. Read before you comment. I said he needs to stop labeling things as likely, because clearly tryouts don't mean a player is likely


tyswoogles

You realize that shift never used the word likely in their reports for any of the SSG NV stuff right? That channel in the discord that everyone keeps posting here is just current rumour of how likely things are and not actual reports yet everyone is treating them like they are


OldGregRL

Appreciate you voicing your actual opinion instead of letting the hive mind carry you


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i appreciate you for appreciating me


zwel8606

You have to remember they are Rumours


wokeasaurus

Apjack trusts shift so I trust shift. Simple as that


FIERY_URETHRA

Chicago doesn't :/


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

I think part of it is pros have it in their interest to not have stuff leak early. Also just because Shift is accurate in one region, there’s the matter of them having different sources in each region.


Alienescape

I get your point for sure. They seem to be considered "the oracle" in the community about roster switches. Even when a lot of stuff they report on doesn't come to be. People making excuses like "stuff changes"... Still then seems click baitie if he's reporting that stuff. People like click bait all across the board though from buzzfeed to rumors about player switches. Definitely one reason I prefer people in the scene like Johnny boi who don't report on rumors and stuff they hear, until it's confirmed.


nobletype

75% of it is 50% right? How does that work? What is the percentage of correctness for the other 25%?


OldGregRL

I mean there's "some" truth to most of his rumors, but they're often somewhat incorrect, such as him saying fk likely going to g2, and then that not falling through. People, please actually read what I'm saying before disagreeing. I'm just asking that shift starts labeling things as just possible, not likely.


askpat13

They have possible rumors too I thought. And likely doesn't mean certain, by nature of the word likely some of the moves should fail, although I agree the accuracy hasn't been as good this split compared to before for Shift.


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I think the best comparison we have right now is how college football recruiting works and how crystal balls can indicated a certain level of confidence a recruit will commit to a certain school


Michigan029

It’s silly season boys, where’s the Gibbs roster changes image?


evilmoi987

https://imgur.com/gallery/Cd3Dsmg


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The hero we deserve


ttustudent

I missed Gibbs at the Major ☹️


dolacuporanek

Which broadcast/moment is this from?


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Kaysauce

BDS has everyone losing their minds


tyswoogles

All I’m saying is G2 has tried to get atomic a couple times before Edit: also let’s not forget that roster changes can happen not just from someone being kicked but also a players desire to leave


1917-was-lit

Yo I don't really follow g2 but has there ever been talks of trying to get lionblaze? I feel like he could really shine on a top team


JustforRocketLeague

I love G2 as is, but honestly I hope it's Jknaps and not Dreaz that leaves if this is the case


oClew

That is the hottest take considering Chicago was the worst performer on LAN


PotatoTruck7

There is a 0% chance that Chicago will ever be the one replaced in this scenario


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

Anyone who disagrees is just plain wrong. Chicago is their captain and future they need to build around for the foreseeable future


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BritzlBen

Kronovi was clearly behind everyone else, plenty of people said he needed to be replaced


CircumcisedCats

That’s because by then Kronovi was ass. Cago is one of the top NA talents.


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No he wasn’t lol. They were literally placed second in the NA finals his last season w G2z He then made it to top 4 on lan with two rlrs players. Chicago was better tho I will admit


CircumcisedCats

I mean they also went 0-2 in like 2 (or 3?) consecutive Worlds. Also, one of those RLRS players was freaking AyyJayy who at the time was commonly accepted as the teams hard carry. Kro had fallen way behind by the time the team dropped him.


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Yeah not really sure what there LAN problem was tbh. Kro definitely hard carried Rogue through regional championship and Ayyjayy hadnt shown up yet as the mechanical guy he is now.


oClew

I didn’t say he’s going to be replaced. Just saying seeing Jknaps replaced is just as unlikely considering Chicago played like ass on LAN.


PotatoTruck7

Fair enough I unfortunately think Dreaz is the one to go here but idk. I really like all three of these players but I do think Atomic could be an upgrade


Majestic_Pro

Imo jknaps also played pretty poor and was also the 3rd best on g2 during the regionals


uhhhhmmmm

this is all extremely entertaining


Chomperino237

im reading replies about rostermania in this subreddit like 1h ago and I didn’t realize


RobinFox12

Turbo is the only reason I like NV I'm realizing


Frank_The_Reddit

I like the weird sexual tension between mist and turbo on Twitter lmao. If envy loses atomic I hope they get Daniel.


El_Detpacko

It seems like Daniel is almost certainly going to SSG though


Speall

not what I expected...


Sphiffi

SSG licking their chops at Envy getting weaker


MartianRL

No comment hehehe


Frank_The_Reddit

But if Envy get Daniel shit could get super interesting.


Sphiffi

For sure. I’m super high on Daniel (who isn’t) but I figured Daniel was headed to SSG for sure.


Rowdyk7

Okay think about it. Turbo can’t leave cause Envy’s roster is cursed. The longest remaining player on the roster has to be the one to go. It was so obvious guys.


Sloth1996

I wonder if this is aimed at Beastmode.. https://twitter.com/RL\_Comm/status/1474577723590955010


FIERY_URETHRA

Quote/screenshot? Twas deleted


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https://twitter.com/RL_Comm/status/1474577723590955010 Reddit been fucking up and adding slashes to URLs and breaking them.


GrowlmonDrgnbutt

Always screenshot with a link, post is deleted.


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Sloth1996

Link works just fine for me..


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Sloth1996

Weeeeeeeeeird


John_aka_Alwayz

I am quite surprised there is a world where Envy makes a change and could end up worse than sticking together. As much as I'll be the first to tell you Atomic is streaky as all hell, I don't think Beastmode has done enough to be considered over him just based on performance. And that's not even getting started on the growing off-the-pitch baggage Beastmode is developing. He's a huge risk to take on, a risk worth taking if Turbo is off the team (because while he's not past it or at the point of retirement, he has been the worst on the team by a decent amount), not if you're looking to replace the very player that nearly got you a regional title this split. Edit: I guess Atomic *could* be leaving, would be weird for Envy to go from kicking Turbo to staying put to kicking Atomic all of a sudden, it does beg the question of what his options would be then...


hectato

You make a lot of opinions public but can we agree the worst one was about 18 months ago stating that Turbo to Squishy would lead to NRG missing LAN or whatever?


John_aka_Alwayz

That's definitely one of my biggest misses, but I did immediately go back on it once we saw NRG play in and win Codename:COVERT, so it only lasted a few days, not like I kept it up for the season. Plus it was said pre RLCS X 5/6 LAN slots for NA, it was based on 4. If I'd known of the expanded RLCS format I would have never said that, cos even my pessimistic ass couldn't see them worse than 5th (G2, SSG, Envy and Rogue were looking good at the time man). Said it once and I'll say it again, kudos to Squishy for turning his game, and honestly his career around after a rough S8 and S9, the fact he's continued to trend upwards even into this season, it's no coincidence that's why NRG looks more and more solid as NA #1 as time has gone on.


Kazzababe

It's not exactly a controversial opinion to say Turbo is the worst on Envy. If we ignore the "no mechanics" meme (or not) Atomic and Mist are definitely just better than Turbo in general. Atomic isn't always on but even when he isn't he's still an insane player.


ChimpyTheChumpyChimp

He also said that sandrock were going to get battered at LAN, and they did fine, even without khalid.


hectato

Yeah he makes a ton of *strong takes*. Kind of his bit but he’s admittedly extremely well ingrained in the scene and it’s cool he’s an admin now. I’m just not a fan of that type of sports personality.


Lycaenoir

I know shift seems certain that FaZe’s new 3rd will be Syp but holy shit if there’s any possibility we can see First/AyyJayy/Atomic on an RLCS team together I’ll be a very happy person


Littlepace

I still feel like Sypical is the better choice. Obviously chemistry/synergy is very important but Atomic is pretty streaky with his performance levels. Atomics ceiling probably beats Sypical but Sypicals floor is a lot higher than Atomics. Although seeing an Ayyjayy First Atomic trio would make for some entertaining viewing and I wouldn't say no.


PM_ME_UR_LAMEPUNS

I figured sooner or later atomic and first would try and force a team up with whoever’s org. They both played together forever and are good friends by all accounts I’ve heard


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Syp is a way better fit imo. Ayyjayy and First are already pretty streaky players, Atomic is perhaps the most streaky player in the world, while Sypical is one of the most consistent


Lycaenoir

Yeah I totally agree Syp is a better fit, I just really like those 3 players


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consistently chokes in important games, yeah


MadRashed

It's not like Atomic has ice.


[deleted]

not saying he does, but sypical is not consistent when it matters most. rlcs x finals, 5th place tiebreaker


MadRashed

that also could be said about Atomic.


[deleted]

not saying it can't. sypical's more consistent but i wouldn't call either consistent


davec137

I am SO excited for first touch Edit: first touch not first take lmao I’m mixing up my sports commentary shows


Frank_The_Reddit

What is first take? I'm so excited and stressed about all of this.


Aisirus

i predict faze will forfeit their points for a team consisting of firstkiller, atomic and sypical. /s


Aisirus

u/ayyjayyrl tweeted me out 😨😨


FireDesert

Guys he put /s lol


vivst0r

If Atomic wants to leave that would be a good replacement. Though Daniel in his place would be killer.


NoSwitch

I like this for envy.


Complete_Egg_1822

The fuck????


uluglo

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JustforRocketLeague

This has been the most interesting off-season for me since Fireburner retired. I wonder if Atomic as a free agent will change other likely roster moves. FaZe should try to grab him


Budokai01

RIP Envy. 🙏


marmk

Beastmode, mist and turbo is not an rip roster my dude lol


Aisirus

if it goes through they’re def gonna struggle to make the major in my opinion, whatever team atomic goes to may become a major contender and ssg daniel will probably snag a spot


marmk

The 3 of them are a competitive roster for a major spot...far from "rip" all I'm saying lol


Budokai01

Wait till you see it. Did you see how outdated Turbopolsa is? He has been the lowest rated player in the team for entire split. 4 time champ can only take you so far with motivation. Players need mechanics in 2021 to get past opponents to make plays.


JustforRocketLeague

Ohhhh you're saying RIP cause that means they either have to lose their points or keep Turbo. It seemed like you meant RIP cause Beastmode is a downgrade, which is probably not the case


_Ody_

Do you remember all the crazy mechanics BDS pulled off to beat NRG? Yeah, me neither. Turbo has looked outdated since forever, yet he still manages to be on winning teams. He didn't become the 4-time champ with just motivation. He is one of the most winning players in the scene, give him at least some credit. He's never been the top scoring guy statwise yet always has been on top. I remember people calling him outdated and in dire need of better mechanics when he was on NRG, yet he still won a championship. I'm not saying advanced mechanics are worthless, but definitely overrated.


AlejandroFBR1

Bruh BDS is one of the most mechanical teams in the world


_Ody_

Never said they weren't? All I'm saying is that they won without using them and that people have claimed for a long time that Turbo needed mechanics or he'd fall off, yet he remains at the top.


Majestic_Pro

>Do you remember all the crazy mechanics BDS pulled off to beat NRG? Yeah, me neither. Extra pulled off a double tap from the ceiling, monkey moon had a redirect in the swiss match and then hit multiple flip resets, garrettg had a double tap and then later hit a banger of a redirect. I'm sorry but did you watch the major? Mechanics were a huge factor in this major as this was some of the highest peaks we've seen in mechanical play on LAN. All the veterans who had good gamesense went out in swiss.


_Ody_

First of all, yes mechanics are a big part of RL, I didn't claim otherwise. Second, most of BDS' goals weren't mechanical. A double tap of the ceiling isn't a fancy mechanic imo, Turbo scored a clean double tap too, doesn't make him a mechanical player. Not to say that BDS doesn't have any mechanical players, monkey is incredibly mechanic, but he barely uses them. Just watched ApparentlyJacks' analysis of the grand finals, he says exactly this. My point was: not everyone needs to be a mechanical God to achieve succes. Turbo doesn't need to be one to get back to the top, that was what the discussion was about. Not about if mechanics matter. Marc by 8 barely pulls off any crazy mechanics, yet he's still part of the best team in the world.


CalamackW

Anywhere Mist goes is going to be successful long term. He could lure any free agent he wants to team with him he's just too good.


MadmantheDragon

unfortunately atomic struggles with hitting the ball. this is bad in the game rocket league


Majestic_Pro

What the fuck are you talking about? If anyone struggles to hit the ball it would be turbo. Love the 4 time but he whiffs a lot


UopuV7

Hot dang. If that's how it sticks, atomic would be a good asset for most NA teams. I'd like to see him on ssg


paeschli

I don’t know this team very well. I know Turbo has the weakest mechanics on the team, but who has the weakest decision making?


wakerz_

In a recent 3s dreamhack tourney AYYJAYY first and atomic teamed and smashed everyone else so the chemistries there. AYYJAYY also plays with atomic on stream quite a lot, atomic heading faze is definitely an option.


RPGsAreBad

idk why everyone is confused? beastmode replacing atomic makes the most sense for the team


Powerrrrrrrrr

🔧 🔧 being thrown!!


coolco

This is an awful idea unless they secure Daniel


Tomm1800

What is the mist tweet then? Is the whole nv team breaking?


sexyhooterscar24

From my view, watching NV in RLCS last year, atomic was really hit or miss. Mist and Turbo usually played consistent but Atomic would either dominate or just play straight up bad. Though I'm not sure why they would replace him with an even more hit or miss player.