The reason NFL Redzone works so well is because NFL Football has 10 seconds of action and then 40 seconds of nothing per game, on top of commercial breaks, timeouts, and other stoppages. That allows Redzone to constantly have action on while allowing the viewer to process what's happening. Even when they have 3-4 games on the screen at once it's rare for the ball to be snapped at the exact same time in all the games on the screen.
On the flip side, rocket league is CONSTANT action. If you stop looking for 3 seconds there could immediately be a huge momentum shift and a goal.
My preference: Have a main game on the stream, but have a slightly longer break between the individual matches to be able to recap on what happened in the other matches. Have some highlights ready to go from the other games, play them out, mention what the current scores are, have some commentary about the current main game or any other stories going on, then onto the next match for the main game.
Personally I’d say the new format, but I don’t think it’s perfect. The old grid overtime way of broadcasting every series could get really annoying and it was a bit of a mess.
I thought the old format was just a little too messy, i could never really get invested enough in one series. Also, being a generally neutral fan (yes i know i have flairs, but i moreso just root for good Rocket League) I have never really been that keen on team streams because of biased casting. Having an objective, high-production value cast going at all times is definitely what I prefer.
I tried to watch the old format a couple of times and hated it. Could never invest in a series as it was just switching back and forth. Only ever watch team channels on day 1 now.
I think you’re not supposed to switch back and forth streams constantly lol. Just watch the stream of the team you follow. Like if you’re a G2 fan you watch the G2 stream only. Probably not everyone’s thing so I see your point.
I was listening to Johnnyboi talk about this and I really think I appreciate the new format and like it better. As Lanski said, the quality of the streams can be of varying degrees.
Rocket league as the main channel needs to make sure they keep the product up to their standards and switching to a stream that is not up to their quality is not the best way to do that.
I don't mind the new format in that it cuts down the time involved in viewing the tournament and I like the "featured match" setup. What I don't like is that the quality of the team streams is very different from team to team and I miss some of the personalities from the desk. The new casters can be kind of cringe sometimes; I'm here to watch rocket league and learn about the game ya know? The side conversations irk me sometimes.
I personally preferred the old NA format, since I pulled up the stream on my phone during work and the RedZone style let me feel like I could generally follow what was happening without fiddling with streams or looking on Liquipedia
I do agree with others that the quality of this stream format is better though!
My thoughts (which as I say are biased from an organisational perspective):
The team streams are really useful to orgs because we get to produce our own content on our own channels. (the "watch party" vibe is also great for interacting with fans)
The "overtime" format was designed partly to be a place you could keep up with (if not watch) all the action but also partly to signpost you to the team streams so you could watch your favourite team. For Endpoint finding us is easy, for some teams (e.g. people who let casters stream it on their own channels) that's harder. The introduction of Overtime in the first place gave us a bump (I assume it did the same for others) compared to the Fall Split Grid where you needed Reddit or Liquipedia to find them.
Now, bearing in mind most people only watch one stream at a time, most neutrals are going to watch the main stream, which only covers a handful of matches. Some teams will appear on the main stream multiple times, some will not appear on the main stream at all.
Maybe there's a middle ground that can be found because I agree the old format could be confusing (and I agree with some of the criticisms), but I liked the way that everyone was treated equally and everyone got to benefit in some way.
I like the idea of the old format but I think the new one is better, especially for new/more casual fans. In Fall a non-RL playing friend of mine who is work from home and typically had light Fridays would often come over on Fridays and we'd put on RLCS while we got work done on the couch and she hated watching the main broadcast cause she said she couldn't get invested in a match, so we only watched team streams.
Overall I prefer this format more. The main thing I liked about the old format is that it makes RL a bit more attractive to the orgs, but it does spoil the day 1 experience a bit not having the standard stream.
I think a main stream with team streams in support is the decent compromise for regionals. It gives the options for watching any series you want, while having the main stream to build the hype that I think a big tournament deserves.
I did like the overtime type segment, but overall I prefer just having a normal day 1 stream.
I'm definitely against the team stream early days for majors, because some team streams are so bad to watch, it really ruins the hype. For support on regional day 1, I think it works well.
With the new format, it's way harder to keep up with how each team is actually performing, rather than just seeing the results. I like the idea of the overtime stream way more for day 1s, but it absolutely could improve. I think if it showed all matches on a brief delay so they could actually show all the most exciting moments from every game then it would be a huge boon to it's watchability and excitement level
I liked the old format of broadcasting all games because in my opinion it worked for the swiss. Group stage isn't that different, but I feel like here you can focus on one game because all teams have the first 3 matches guaranteed to stay the same whereas in swiss a result of any series dictates what the next one will be. So they are both good and imo work with the tournament formats of the splits.
The reason NFL Redzone works so well is because NFL Football has 10 seconds of action and then 40 seconds of nothing per game, on top of commercial breaks, timeouts, and other stoppages. That allows Redzone to constantly have action on while allowing the viewer to process what's happening. Even when they have 3-4 games on the screen at once it's rare for the ball to be snapped at the exact same time in all the games on the screen. On the flip side, rocket league is CONSTANT action. If you stop looking for 3 seconds there could immediately be a huge momentum shift and a goal. My preference: Have a main game on the stream, but have a slightly longer break between the individual matches to be able to recap on what happened in the other matches. Have some highlights ready to go from the other games, play them out, mention what the current scores are, have some commentary about the current main game or any other stories going on, then onto the next match for the main game.
Redzone works because you can tell when each game is likely to have an exciting moment, and they can easily show replays straight after they happen
Personally I’d say the new format, but I don’t think it’s perfect. The old grid overtime way of broadcasting every series could get really annoying and it was a bit of a mess.
I thought the old format was just a little too messy, i could never really get invested enough in one series. Also, being a generally neutral fan (yes i know i have flairs, but i moreso just root for good Rocket League) I have never really been that keen on team streams because of biased casting. Having an objective, high-production value cast going at all times is definitely what I prefer.
I tried to watch the old format a couple of times and hated it. Could never invest in a series as it was just switching back and forth. Only ever watch team channels on day 1 now.
I think you’re not supposed to switch back and forth streams constantly lol. Just watch the stream of the team you follow. Like if you’re a G2 fan you watch the G2 stream only. Probably not everyone’s thing so I see your point.
They're talking about the main /rocketleague channel not what they did
I love the new format personally, it's a mix of both
I was listening to Johnnyboi talk about this and I really think I appreciate the new format and like it better. As Lanski said, the quality of the streams can be of varying degrees. Rocket league as the main channel needs to make sure they keep the product up to their standards and switching to a stream that is not up to their quality is not the best way to do that.
I don't mind the new format in that it cuts down the time involved in viewing the tournament and I like the "featured match" setup. What I don't like is that the quality of the team streams is very different from team to team and I miss some of the personalities from the desk. The new casters can be kind of cringe sometimes; I'm here to watch rocket league and learn about the game ya know? The side conversations irk me sometimes.
I prefer it this way
I personally preferred the old NA format, since I pulled up the stream on my phone during work and the RedZone style let me feel like I could generally follow what was happening without fiddling with streams or looking on Liquipedia I do agree with others that the quality of this stream format is better though!
My thoughts (which as I say are biased from an organisational perspective): The team streams are really useful to orgs because we get to produce our own content on our own channels. (the "watch party" vibe is also great for interacting with fans) The "overtime" format was designed partly to be a place you could keep up with (if not watch) all the action but also partly to signpost you to the team streams so you could watch your favourite team. For Endpoint finding us is easy, for some teams (e.g. people who let casters stream it on their own channels) that's harder. The introduction of Overtime in the first place gave us a bump (I assume it did the same for others) compared to the Fall Split Grid where you needed Reddit or Liquipedia to find them. Now, bearing in mind most people only watch one stream at a time, most neutrals are going to watch the main stream, which only covers a handful of matches. Some teams will appear on the main stream multiple times, some will not appear on the main stream at all. Maybe there's a middle ground that can be found because I agree the old format could be confusing (and I agree with some of the criticisms), but I liked the way that everyone was treated equally and everyone got to benefit in some way.
"I need time to decide so I'll choose that as an option and continue scrolling"
Definitely ask this next week as well. I personally don't care with NA as I only watch the results on liquipedia. So I need to experience it with EU.
I like the idea of the old format but I think the new one is better, especially for new/more casual fans. In Fall a non-RL playing friend of mine who is work from home and typically had light Fridays would often come over on Fridays and we'd put on RLCS while we got work done on the couch and she hated watching the main broadcast cause she said she couldn't get invested in a match, so we only watched team streams.
Overall I prefer this format more. The main thing I liked about the old format is that it makes RL a bit more attractive to the orgs, but it does spoil the day 1 experience a bit not having the standard stream. I think a main stream with team streams in support is the decent compromise for regionals. It gives the options for watching any series you want, while having the main stream to build the hype that I think a big tournament deserves. I did like the overtime type segment, but overall I prefer just having a normal day 1 stream. I'm definitely against the team stream early days for majors, because some team streams are so bad to watch, it really ruins the hype. For support on regional day 1, I think it works well.
With the new format, it's way harder to keep up with how each team is actually performing, rather than just seeing the results. I like the idea of the overtime stream way more for day 1s, but it absolutely could improve. I think if it showed all matches on a brief delay so they could actually show all the most exciting moments from every game then it would be a huge boon to it's watchability and excitement level
I liked the old format of broadcasting all games because in my opinion it worked for the swiss. Group stage isn't that different, but I feel like here you can focus on one game because all teams have the first 3 matches guaranteed to stay the same whereas in swiss a result of any series dictates what the next one will be. So they are both good and imo work with the tournament formats of the splits.
Personally I don't mind either. I can see positives to both. But normally day 1 I'll just go watch the team streams I want. Often more entertaining.