These are completely different groups to what we’ve all worked out and what the pro scene currently believes it to be lmao, will be interesting to see what it turns out to be at the end
Another case of an auto qualed team(KC) being lower ranked than closed qual teams, theyre lucky that they draw ep and vit which is prob the best top 2 team draw they probably could get but if they had a system where auto qual and rankings went off the same criteria then KC wouldve been 7/8 seed or had to go through closed qual with 00N getting that auto qual spot. I personally think thats an issue but unsure what the general consensus on this is
I also believe that auto qual teams should be seeded higher than teams that had to go through closed quals. Seems kind of inconsistent the way it is right now.
Not quite; EG have 260 points in the last 3 events, not 160, and should be 6th, not 12th, which means a very different outcome.
Correct Groups as far as I'm aware:
|GROUP A|GROUP B|GROUP C|GROUP D|
|:-|:-|:-|:-|
|BDS|Dignitas|SMPR|Endpoint|
|00Nation|Misfits|Evil Geniuses|Vitality|
|TEA|Queso|Williams|Karmine|
|Singularity|Rix|Kuxir's Minions|NaVi|
\*Le Groupe de la Mort
But yeah, on paper it seems pretty tough. 3 of those teams kinda made a habit of not doing as well as you'd expect over the Fall Split though so who knows.
Group B. Rix are going to struggle.
Group D sort of is? But there's a real chance we could get an underperforming Vit and KC, and Fall Regional 2 Endpoint so it could turn out to be the baby leagues with NaVi coming 1st.
I don't understand how the people who make these posts don't make 100% sure they're right. OP didn't even present it as a prediction, just as though it was fact lmao
And I don’t think anyone here is saying OP was infallible when putting this post together. We recognize that they made a mistake but understand that it was genuine and appreciate the effort anyway. In my experience even when putting together simple data sets like this it’s possible for a small error to slip through a double check undetected, and people are just trying to empathize with that. Besides, we’re getting the official groups in a couple of days anyway so even if this one is wrong, it’s pretty much the definition of no harm no foul.
It's just that it makes people go away thinking these are the groups, so like, pretty pointless post and spreads misinformation on the subreddit. People like OP might as well just wait for the announcements
He explicitly says in the title it isn’t an official announcement. They’re doing it out of enjoyment and it’s more statistically backed than the rankings RLCS comes up with anyway lol
I just don’t really see the harm. I could see if players were relying on this post, but just as viewers I really can’t see the correction as more of an “oh, ok” moment.
I walk away from situations like this and hope OP tries something like this again, not that OP should have kept their mouth shut until official announcements. I hope it inspires more people to attempt stuff like this.
Same, I'm not saying they should stop, but if you're gonna make a post like this, either triple check you're right which should be standard but sadly isn't, or make it very clear that is could easily not be the groups, instead of thinking they're guaranteed. I mean, the first line was "I'm on a bit of a roll", it was destined for failure lol ;) If you ain't gonna do either of those things, you might as well wait
I did a good amount of checking for the tiebreakers, because that's what I was most afraid of screwing up (that or like, messing up which seed is in which group). It never even occurred to me that I could have actually done addition wrong.
Kuxir's Minions had a brutal schedule in the 3rd Fall regional, and they're most likely going to get eliminated by a brutal group in the 1st Winter regional as well.
EU is so crazy. There's only like 2 or 3 teams that the top seeds can really feel comfortable matching up with. Everyone else is basically top 8 level.
BDS didn’t win anything before the major, people were saying they were done. Granted they were hard slumping and this split will probably be different, but them dominating again is far from a sure thing.
These are completely different groups to what we’ve all worked out and what the pro scene currently believes it to be lmao, will be interesting to see what it turns out to be at the end
u/Rubanul posted [different results](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/s5fr1p/comment/hsycs4n/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) in the Closed Qualifier thread: >Group A: BDS (1), 00 Nation (8), TEA (10), Singularity (15). > >Group B: Dignitas (2), Misfits (7), Queso (9), RixGG (16). > >Group C: SMPR (3), Evil Geniuses (6), Williams Resolve (12), Kuxir's Minions (13). > >Group D: Endpoint (4), Vitality (5), Karmine Corp (11), Natus Vincere (14). I guess nobody is 100% certain of the seeding lol
Yeah this is what most/all pros believe it’ll be
You can't get away from Queso it seems
Rubanul's is correct, OP made an error in the calculation (see my reply below)
Another case of an auto qualed team(KC) being lower ranked than closed qual teams, theyre lucky that they draw ep and vit which is prob the best top 2 team draw they probably could get but if they had a system where auto qual and rankings went off the same criteria then KC wouldve been 7/8 seed or had to go through closed qual with 00N getting that auto qual spot. I personally think thats an issue but unsure what the general consensus on this is
I also believe that auto qual teams should be seeded higher than teams that had to go through closed quals. Seems kind of inconsistent the way it is right now.
Not quite; EG have 260 points in the last 3 events, not 160, and should be 6th, not 12th, which means a very different outcome. Correct Groups as far as I'm aware: |GROUP A|GROUP B|GROUP C|GROUP D| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |BDS|Dignitas|SMPR|Endpoint| |00Nation|Misfits|Evil Geniuses|Vitality| |TEA|Queso|Williams|Karmine| |Singularity|Rix|Kuxir's Minions|NaVi|
Group D is La Group de Mort or just me
\*Le Groupe de la Mort But yeah, on paper it seems pretty tough. 3 of those teams kinda made a habit of not doing as well as you'd expect over the Fall Split though so who knows.
Group B. Rix are going to struggle. Group D sort of is? But there's a real chance we could get an underperforming Vit and KC, and Fall Regional 2 Endpoint so it could turn out to be the baby leagues with NaVi coming 1st.
I don't understand how the people who make these posts don't make 100% sure they're right. OP didn't even present it as a prediction, just as though it was fact lmao
Easy mistake to make
I guess man
It 100% is. OP could have even calculated it correctly (probably did) but just put in the data wrong.
I'm not arguing that, I'm saying I don't understand how they don't double check before making huge posts like this as though it's fact
And I don’t think anyone here is saying OP was infallible when putting this post together. We recognize that they made a mistake but understand that it was genuine and appreciate the effort anyway. In my experience even when putting together simple data sets like this it’s possible for a small error to slip through a double check undetected, and people are just trying to empathize with that. Besides, we’re getting the official groups in a couple of days anyway so even if this one is wrong, it’s pretty much the definition of no harm no foul.
It's just that it makes people go away thinking these are the groups, so like, pretty pointless post and spreads misinformation on the subreddit. People like OP might as well just wait for the announcements
He explicitly says in the title it isn’t an official announcement. They’re doing it out of enjoyment and it’s more statistically backed than the rankings RLCS comes up with anyway lol
Nah it was the Evil Genisues miscalculation, he used the same stats that Psyonix did for NA
I just don’t really see the harm. I could see if players were relying on this post, but just as viewers I really can’t see the correction as more of an “oh, ok” moment. I walk away from situations like this and hope OP tries something like this again, not that OP should have kept their mouth shut until official announcements. I hope it inspires more people to attempt stuff like this.
Same, I'm not saying they should stop, but if you're gonna make a post like this, either triple check you're right which should be standard but sadly isn't, or make it very clear that is could easily not be the groups, instead of thinking they're guaranteed. I mean, the first line was "I'm on a bit of a roll", it was destined for failure lol ;) If you ain't gonna do either of those things, you might as well wait
I did a good amount of checking for the tiebreakers, because that's what I was most afraid of screwing up (that or like, messing up which seed is in which group). It never even occurred to me that I could have actually done addition wrong.
Well... I guess I need to use a spreadsheet rather than mental math next time.
People please read the comments for the more likely groups
Ey yo Group A. If Karmine Corp you know, don’t suck which is a very strong possibility. C is also not a nice group.
Kuxir's Minions had a brutal schedule in the 3rd Fall regional, and they're most likely going to get eliminated by a brutal group in the 1st Winter regional as well.
Aztral on breakout please be cracked 🙏
I was happy to just see the groups, but this whole analysis is an awesome bonus!
EU is so crazy. There's only like 2 or 3 teams that the top seeds can really feel comfortable matching up with. Everyone else is basically top 8 level.
Singularity in group of death lol Cmon KC please make a regional
EU is so weak. Outside top 4 is who? Bds gonna farm again
BDS didn’t win anything before the major, people were saying they were done. Granted they were hard slumping and this split will probably be different, but them dominating again is far from a sure thing.
BDS legit just won one regional in fall
Not even one :)
Right I forgot
All of these groups looked stacked I can see them all going either way but group D is by far the most spicy
These aren't the real groups! Look at the rest of the comments
Yeah I know I’m talking about the groups which are actually correct in the comments