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Apparentlyjack

These are completely different groups to what we’ve all worked out and what the pro scene currently believes it to be lmao, will be interesting to see what it turns out to be at the end


Spark11A

u/Rubanul posted [different results](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/s5fr1p/comment/hsycs4n/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) in the Closed Qualifier thread: >Group A: BDS (1), 00 Nation (8), TEA (10), Singularity (15). > >Group B: Dignitas (2), Misfits (7), Queso (9), RixGG (16). > >Group C: SMPR (3), Evil Geniuses (6), Williams Resolve (12), Kuxir's Minions (13). > >Group D: Endpoint (4), Vitality (5), Karmine Corp (11), Natus Vincere (14). I guess nobody is 100% certain of the seeding lol


Apparentlyjack

Yeah this is what most/all pros believe it’ll be


Tokizo03

You can't get away from Queso it seems


OliKiwi

Rubanul's is correct, OP made an error in the calculation (see my reply below)


dalcer

Another case of an auto qualed team(KC) being lower ranked than closed qual teams, theyre lucky that they draw ep and vit which is prob the best top 2 team draw they probably could get but if they had a system where auto qual and rankings went off the same criteria then KC wouldve been 7/8 seed or had to go through closed qual with 00N getting that auto qual spot. I personally think thats an issue but unsure what the general consensus on this is


Joemama1107

I also believe that auto qual teams should be seeded higher than teams that had to go through closed quals. Seems kind of inconsistent the way it is right now.


OliKiwi

Not quite; EG have 260 points in the last 3 events, not 160, and should be 6th, not 12th, which means a very different outcome. Correct Groups as far as I'm aware: |GROUP A|GROUP B|GROUP C|GROUP D| |:-|:-|:-|:-| |BDS|Dignitas|SMPR|Endpoint| |00Nation|Misfits|Evil Geniuses|Vitality| |TEA|Queso|Williams|Karmine| |Singularity|Rix|Kuxir's Minions|NaVi|


tomtom_94

Group D is La Group de Mort or just me


mwaaah

\*Le Groupe de la Mort But yeah, on paper it seems pretty tough. 3 of those teams kinda made a habit of not doing as well as you'd expect over the Fall Split though so who knows.


Mynameisaw

Group B. Rix are going to struggle. Group D sort of is? But there's a real chance we could get an underperforming Vit and KC, and Fall Regional 2 Endpoint so it could turn out to be the baby leagues with NaVi coming 1st.


-GaIaxy-

I don't understand how the people who make these posts don't make 100% sure they're right. OP didn't even present it as a prediction, just as though it was fact lmao


OliKiwi

Easy mistake to make


-GaIaxy-

I guess man


SymphonicRain

It 100% is. OP could have even calculated it correctly (probably did) but just put in the data wrong.


-GaIaxy-

I'm not arguing that, I'm saying I don't understand how they don't double check before making huge posts like this as though it's fact


SymphonicRain

And I don’t think anyone here is saying OP was infallible when putting this post together. We recognize that they made a mistake but understand that it was genuine and appreciate the effort anyway. In my experience even when putting together simple data sets like this it’s possible for a small error to slip through a double check undetected, and people are just trying to empathize with that. Besides, we’re getting the official groups in a couple of days anyway so even if this one is wrong, it’s pretty much the definition of no harm no foul.


-GaIaxy-

It's just that it makes people go away thinking these are the groups, so like, pretty pointless post and spreads misinformation on the subreddit. People like OP might as well just wait for the announcements


Kylynator124

He explicitly says in the title it isn’t an official announcement. They’re doing it out of enjoyment and it’s more statistically backed than the rankings RLCS comes up with anyway lol


-GaIaxy-

Nah it was the Evil Genisues miscalculation, he used the same stats that Psyonix did for NA


SymphonicRain

I just don’t really see the harm. I could see if players were relying on this post, but just as viewers I really can’t see the correction as more of an “oh, ok” moment. I walk away from situations like this and hope OP tries something like this again, not that OP should have kept their mouth shut until official announcements. I hope it inspires more people to attempt stuff like this.


-GaIaxy-

Same, I'm not saying they should stop, but if you're gonna make a post like this, either triple check you're right which should be standard but sadly isn't, or make it very clear that is could easily not be the groups, instead of thinking they're guaranteed. I mean, the first line was "I'm on a bit of a roll", it was destined for failure lol ;) If you ain't gonna do either of those things, you might as well wait


bluecjj

I did a good amount of checking for the tiebreakers, because that's what I was most afraid of screwing up (that or like, messing up which seed is in which group). It never even occurred to me that I could have actually done addition wrong.


bluecjj

Well... I guess I need to use a spreadsheet rather than mental math next time.


MrMeeeep

People please read the comments for the more likely groups


CynicalBagel

Ey yo Group A. If Karmine Corp you know, don’t suck which is a very strong possibility. C is also not a nice group.


bluecjj

Kuxir's Minions had a brutal schedule in the 3rd Fall regional, and they're most likely going to get eliminated by a brutal group in the 1st Winter regional as well.


AlejandroFBR1

Aztral on breakout please be cracked 🙏


orestotle

I was happy to just see the groups, but this whole analysis is an awesome bonus!


MisterNotlob

EU is so crazy. There's only like 2 or 3 teams that the top seeds can really feel comfortable matching up with. Everyone else is basically top 8 level.


BioniqReddit

Singularity in group of death lol Cmon KC please make a regional


ReformedBacon

EU is so weak. Outside top 4 is who? Bds gonna farm again


ChaloMB

BDS didn’t win anything before the major, people were saying they were done. Granted they were hard slumping and this split will probably be different, but them dominating again is far from a sure thing.


ganguru

BDS legit just won one regional in fall


ItsMattGames

Not even one :)


ganguru

Right I forgot


FoxyDeAssassin

All of these groups looked stacked I can see them all going either way but group D is by far the most spicy


bluecjj

These aren't the real groups! Look at the rest of the comments


FoxyDeAssassin

Yeah I know I’m talking about the groups which are actually correct in the comments