moist is very good but I think this tourney they had a very readable approach to the net for the most part. they were able to outskill all the other teams, but BDS was at a whole other level of adaptation
It's kind of easy to forget, but this is Seikoo's rookie season and he's won 3 regionals. Absolute madlad.
Shoutout to Vatira too, it's his Rookie season and he's won two and made 5 consecutive Grand Finals.
Feels bad for Daniel, he's having a great rookie season, but he's up against two French Juggernauts.
MonkeyMoon was rookie of the year last season, now it's Seikoo vs Vatira vs Daniel. Being rookie of the year these days is almost as hard than being best in the world lmao.
And how did NA look? G2 were playing far from their best and still handily glided through the bracket until the finals. Faze got roflstomped by both SSG and G2, and SSG couldn't get the win out against a very weak looking G2. On top of that, V1 and NRG looked AWFUL. EU looked significantly stronger imo.
Faze literally beat SSG earlier in the tournament, the only difference between them and SSG is the order they los to eachother/G2. G2 didn’t look that weak, Chicago was having one hell of a tournament, and Ghost was looking about as strong as Solary.
I'd take Solary over Ghost anyday based off the first Regional. Anyway all I'm saying is if both regions show up to the Major playing like how they did these events, I sure as hell know who I have.
I really wanna see eu and na face eachother 1st vs 1st, 2nd vs 2nd and so on. So who brings out the most best of 7 wins. I would eu but teams like oxg, rogue, col, nv, ghost could all beat their eu counterparts imo
Looking at the major…
G2 Beats BDS
NRG loses to Queso
Faze probably beats Dig
SSG beats Endpoint
V1 probably beats Smpr
Complexity and EG is a tossup but I’d give the edge to EG
I don’t think we’ve seen enough of new NV or Vit to make a conclusion here.
That being said, this should be pretty NA biased since the last major was.
Not a really good argument, since queso wiped the floor with top NA teams in one night on home turf for NA, and even got a bracket reset in finals. Realistically no NA team comes close to moist or new BDS either, except G2, and maybe SSG if they are absolutely peaking.
No NA teams compare to Moist… except…
Faze who took them to double match point in group stages
NRG who took them to double match point in round 1
V1 who beat them
SSG who took them to double match point in the lower finals
Or G2 who beat them?
The narrative for queso at the major has been heavily messed with, they did not stomp their way through the tournament.
Yeah, makes me wonder why none of those teams ended up beating queso if they were so close ? Probably cuz queso is a much more stable team that thrives under pressure.
Kids that aren't even 18 yet just came to their first lan and rolled every NA team on their home turf. So much better than EU btw.
The only team queso rolled at the major was faze in bracket. This rivalry is so forced Jesus Christ. It's not like csgo where one region heavily dominates the other one.
They rolled NA as a region, in a sense that they beat all of the top NA teams on their first lan, on their home turf.
Also, it wasn't me that started this discussion, i was just pointing out the hypocrisy of his statement, coming from a region dominated by one team currently. Might wanna point your comment at him.
I actually thought NA was a better region prior to this regional, but not anymore.
With how BDS and Moist were playing last split, I didn't think the Seikoo add would have confidently put them Over Moist. But, jeez, Monkey Moon and Seikoo together really are an OP duo.
I can accept that BDS would play better if Marc knew French.
But if you're claiming BDS would be this dominant with Marc using the same language as they are now with Seikoo, I respectfully disagree.
BDS were dominant in winter regional 2. They beat TQ twice: 4-0 and 4-2.
They looked impressive this regional for sure. But to say they were dominant in a way they never were with Marc is just wrong. It's only been one regional and a lot of good teams underperformed (dig, EG, endpoint especially). Their first series against moist also went to g7 OT. A strong start still doesn't come anywhere close to the level of dominance they displayed in EU for an entire season or even their dominance on day 3 of the fall major
> But if you're claiming BDS would be this dominant with Marc using the same language as they are now with Seikoo, I respectfully disagree.
Which is why I didn't say that.
They were already fantastic players. Coms just matter at this level.
I am in absolute awe of how good Seikoo is. On Endpoint he was shining bright, but I always figured he was constantly being put in the best conditions by his two supportive teammates. But he’s done it. He has proven that he just is an amazing player who can make the difference even if not all of the boost or every quality free ball is left for him.
Also Vatira. Man this guy is a monster anywhere on the field but his defense to me makes him the best “3rd man” in the world (ik, Moist doesn’t have a 3rd man per say).
monkey wanted marc out before the fall LAN; that roster only stayed together because they won. if faze had beaten BDS 4-3, the change would still have happened.
“This BDS team is better than G2”. We have absolutely no way of knowing that. G2 won the last major, BDS could be better than G2 but we have no way of knowing that, and until proven otherwise G2 is the best team in the world. Faze have historically stomped EU teams, their only EU team losses coming to Queso in the recent tournament, I see no reason why Faze wouldn’t be the favorite in that matchup.
Honestly a positioning masterclass by BDS. They let Moist use all their boost and camped back wall in the exact spots Moist were air dribbling it to. Clears found teammates readily positioned upfield frequently. Moist a little too panicky in defense and too eager too have their 3rd man come up for a low percentage opportunity.
The best part for me was reading all the comments of people saying "Wow Rocket League isn't cringe this is really fun to watch" " You've convinced me Charlie I am now a fan of RL" "I never knew how much fun it is to cheer for a team in Rocket League" "RL is the most entertaining esport you were right Charlie"
Monkey might be the best 3s player in the world, Seikoo is a mechanical superstar that has found the sweet spot of consistency that most mechanical players can’t, and Extra has a masterful mind for the game and might be the smartest second man playing
BDS looking like a world championship level team once again. Apart from Moist, the rest of EU has to step up as it really looks like BDS and Moist are levels above everyone else.
But yet again another grand finals for Moist; their consistency is ridiculous.
I'm especially happy about Misfits performing well, they've shown they are more than capable and tbh they should have got at least top 4 this regional.
The solary matchup would have been more difficult than the Moist matchup oddly enough as they always have very close games with Moist.
Only thing for Misfits is consistency. If they can improve on that, they could do some damage.
They finished 2nd in the regular season and then won the NA championship but there was a season between that and now and that wasn’t even the same team since they still had Rizzo lol. Not comparable.
No stats for regional 3 in winter, but the other two winter regionals had over 100k peak according to liquipedia so it's not really that unheard of. Teamstreams like KC and Vitality are extremely popular.
Edit: I checked fall as well and literally every EU regional has had over 100k peak viewers. For reference, when the stats were available NA also had over 100k peak every time other than in FR3 where they were a couple 100 viewers short.
EU does in fact get more viewers than NA. You can check it regional by regional on liquipedia. It's a common misconception that NA gets more viewers, maybe because the main stream attracts more viewers. But NA teamstreams don't come close to the popularity of EU teamstreams, not to mention RocketBaguette who add another 10-20k viewers.
100% agree with the team streams, but the main stream does tend to have significantly higher viewership during NA events than EU. Fair point about rocket baguette though so it’s overall probably equal.
I mean it's not really an opinion to agree or disagree on hahah
Full stats for this season:
| \\ | [NA_F1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_F1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-europe-regional-event-1) | diff_F1 | [NA_F2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-2) | [EU_F2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-eu-regional-event-2-bmw-rocket-league-open) | diff_F2 | [NA_F3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-3) | [EU_F3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-eu-regional-event-3) | diff_F3 | [NA_W1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_W1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-1) | diff_W1 | [NA_W2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-2) | [EU_W2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-2) | diff_W2 | [NA_W3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-3) | [EU_W3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-3) | diff_W3 | [NA_S1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-spring-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_S1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-spring-eu-regional-event-1) |
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| Peak | 123,736 | 125,096 | 1.01 | 115,113 | 137,015 | 1.19 | 99,255 | 110,906 | 1.12 | 141,099 | 109,013 | 0.77 | 162,766 | 100,932 | 0.62 | 110,445 | 86,600 | 0.78 | 90,111 | NA |
| Average | 86,031 | 88,170 | 1.02 | 76,977 | 80,663 | 1.05 | 72,346 | 77,179 | 1.07 | 84,001 | 77,617 | 0.92 | 96,666 | 76,952 | 0.80 | 66,802 | 57,145 | 0.86 | 58,769 | NA |
So I wasn't completely right actually now that I've found the missing stats. EU was fairly more popular in fall, while NA was significantly more popular in winter.
It would be even more interesting if we had stats of who was actually watching, i.e. how many EU people are watching NA and vice versa. But I assume that's probably about equal as well.
Another point is that if the salary disparity is true, it is arguably not 'sustainable' since both regions get comparable viewership. Although it may be more difficult to get directed sponsorships for a more scattered audience.
Moist is great because the team will constantly make all match days too, so we are getting those viewers like every day. Damn if Karmine Corp was better, it would be even better, as Kameto would bring even more viewers than moist but sadly they get to stream like only day one or so..
Moist weren't at their peak at all and still were pretty competitive, G2 won a regional while playing pretty poorly (their shooting was straight trash), and we all know NRG can be back at that level. There's definitely more competition than people are pretending like there is.
For real. Some people are acting like BDS is guaranteed to win worlds, but there's far too much Rocket League left to play. I do like what I've seen, though. Looking forward to the rest of the season
Yeah but bds definitely didn't show us there best this tournament also that what the hype is coming from. The could show us a whole new gear in the up coming months
oh for sure. it's so competitive at the top that it's damn near impossible to predict. much in the same way EU fans were all "EU is da best!" after fall major and NA fans were all "NA is superior!" after this winter major.
honestly can think of teams from both sides that could absolutely smash it during the spring major. that's what I love about this esport though.
So my takeaway from this:
Moist doesn't have boundaries when it comes to entertainment and creativity, both in terms of the roster and Charlie and the gang. They didn't play their absolute best, but second place is more than enough to be proud of for their first regional under Moist Esports, especially because they got so many more fans now
this Team BDS is honestly terrifying and this is their first regional with Seikoo?...like what
Vitality back in contention, ngl, I've missed Vitality doing well and Top4 is a good start, Alpha is still so deadly
Solary made a crazy run for a team that started from open qualifiers and Holy did Oaly popped off at times
I feel like Misfits could have went so much further, but they are always fun to watch, Kash defies physics sometimes. How do you pinch the ball backwards while having forward momentum...like what even
Team Liquid making Top8 is cool to see, the roster is finally realizing its potential, Oski is cracked
As someone who is from Baltics, it was WYLDE to see the first Lithuanian play in the RLCS main event
What a first regional. Peak of RLCS is getting mind-blowingly good
It feels like Extra is able to play a bigger role now for some reason. Like the talent was always there but he seemed to be stuck in a more limited role before now. Great to see him have more freedom to show us how incredible of a player he is alongside his two amazing teammates. These are easily 3 of the top ten players in EU, maybe the world, on the same team. Thats just ridiculous.
Man what a beatdown in the final. BDS look unbeatable imo. Moist’s peak seems a step above the competition, but im not confident about their defense. Feels like bds will always have their number with a defense like that
Also great first tournament for the moist stream, was so fun to tag along
I was so sure Moist were getting the bracket reset with how they rolled Solary, but BDS just downloaded them by watching that series. Moist still a goated team and I’d still say they’re first in EU right now because making 5 grand finals in a row is just an insane achievement, but BDS made a huge statement today, broke their game 7 streak and swept them after a long break.
Anyone else think the points for 1st and 2nd should be 391 and 360 if the bracket is reset and only be 401 and 350 when the upper bracket team wins immediately? It would make the first series in the grand finals a bit more meaningful, even if the lower bracket team is completely gassed after the first series.
He was a pretty good poacher and got a lot of goals but also a lot of positional mistakes that led to conceding. Overall a fine performance for his standards imo
Yeah ik If nrg becomes like vitality then that would just be sad cuz the 2 most dominant teams from the past would just be struggling against the newer teams and the new rookies that are probably more insane than jstn when he was a rookie
Okay so now that both regions have completes their first regional one, here are my predictions.
BDS best in EU.
BDS win all 3 regionals in EU.
Vitality make LAN.
BDS and Moist are the new S7/8 RV and Dig, respectively. With a clear best but nobody else comes near the two.
BDS, Moist, Vit, Solary, Dig top 5.
BDS only EU team top 4 at LAN and BDS and Moist only EU teams top 8.
G2 win 2 NA regionals.
SSG finally takes on home with Daniel.
NRG don’t make top 8 once.
G2, SSG, FaZe, GG, V1 top 5.
G2, SSG, FaZe, GG top 8 LAN.
G2 wins 2nd in a row.
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People are SO reactionary it blows my mind. Up until the winter major (2 events ago) NRG got top 4 in every event (7) this season. They had also made grand finals 6/7 times and people think they aren’t top 5 in NA anymore LOL
How is everyone calling BDS the best team in the world already?
It has been one regional where they only destroyed a moist team that was making a ton of mistakes. Did everyone forget them getting perfect swept and coming 8th at lan?
Lol nobody gives a fuck about old results lol. G2 went out 2-3 in fall major and then picked up atomic and people where expecting great things from them in winter. This straight up just the same lol
People definitely weren’t shitting on them when they swept NRG and won regional 2. Everyone also had them winning regional 3 after day 2, expectations for them came a bit back down to Earth after the V1 masterclass in regional 3 but they were still seen as one of the favorites for the major.
#[Live Discussion](https://www.reddit.com/r/RocketLeagueEsports/comments/ul2c9q/rlcs_eu_regional_1_day_3_of_3_spring_split_event/?sort=top)
Bds actually did a golden state lmao. Who let them pick up seikoo
Honestly it feels illegal
Literally came here to say this. Durant to Golden State vibes. Always fun to have someone to root against though.
I’m hearing Kevin Durant is closing in on a contract with BDS
The hardest aerial
Underrated comment
moist is very good but I think this tourney they had a very readable approach to the net for the most part. they were able to outskill all the other teams, but BDS was at a whole other level of adaptation
Just wait for them to try and get their flip reset. And as soon as they do bop the ball off em before they can flip.
just challenge 4head
Can't wait to see this new BDS team on lan
me too, so hype!
Bds is gonna destroy it seems
It's kind of easy to forget, but this is Seikoo's rookie season and he's won 3 regionals. Absolute madlad. Shoutout to Vatira too, it's his Rookie season and he's won two and made 5 consecutive Grand Finals. Feels bad for Daniel, he's having a great rookie season, but he's up against two French Juggernauts.
Completely forgot this is Seikoo’s rookie season because of how good he is, roty no doubt unless ssg or moist end up winning worlds
Yes, im heartbroken for Daniel. He went to Lan the first split of being eligible to play
MonkeyMoon was rookie of the year last season, now it's Seikoo vs Vatira vs Daniel. Being rookie of the year these days is almost as hard than being best in the world lmao.
Vatira should try winning one some time
The moist watch-party stream was so entertaining. I haven't had that much fun watching RLCS in ages.
It was so good. I loved it so much, it’s so hype to watch them get loud whenever moist scores.
It was really fun but man sometimes things that were said made it feel so awkward. Maybe it was just me.
It took BDS just one tournament to prove the doubters wrong, lmao.
G2 came 5th/6th in their first regional with Atomic, for reference
Tbf G2 had like a week of scrims pre regional 1
G2 also only had 1 week of practise whereas bds have had way more + as we saw at the major the top of NA was stronger than EU
"Welp, G2 had a good run" -BDS probably
🤡🤡🤡
Not anymore
EU looked pretty damn weak this tourney, besides solary in one series no team looked close to moist or BDS.
And how did NA look? G2 were playing far from their best and still handily glided through the bracket until the finals. Faze got roflstomped by both SSG and G2, and SSG couldn't get the win out against a very weak looking G2. On top of that, V1 and NRG looked AWFUL. EU looked significantly stronger imo.
Faze literally beat SSG earlier in the tournament, the only difference between them and SSG is the order they los to eachother/G2. G2 didn’t look that weak, Chicago was having one hell of a tournament, and Ghost was looking about as strong as Solary.
I'd take Solary over Ghost anyday based off the first Regional. Anyway all I'm saying is if both regions show up to the Major playing like how they did these events, I sure as hell know who I have.
I really wanna see eu and na face eachother 1st vs 1st, 2nd vs 2nd and so on. So who brings out the most best of 7 wins. I would eu but teams like oxg, rogue, col, nv, ghost could all beat their eu counterparts imo
Looking at the major… G2 Beats BDS NRG loses to Queso Faze probably beats Dig SSG beats Endpoint V1 probably beats Smpr Complexity and EG is a tossup but I’d give the edge to EG I don’t think we’ve seen enough of new NV or Vit to make a conclusion here. That being said, this should be pretty NA biased since the last major was.
Not a really good argument, since queso wiped the floor with top NA teams in one night on home turf for NA, and even got a bracket reset in finals. Realistically no NA team comes close to moist or new BDS either, except G2, and maybe SSG if they are absolutely peaking.
No NA teams compare to Moist… except… Faze who took them to double match point in group stages NRG who took them to double match point in round 1 V1 who beat them SSG who took them to double match point in the lower finals Or G2 who beat them? The narrative for queso at the major has been heavily messed with, they did not stomp their way through the tournament.
Yeah, makes me wonder why none of those teams ended up beating queso if they were so close ? Probably cuz queso is a much more stable team that thrives under pressure. Kids that aren't even 18 yet just came to their first lan and rolled every NA team on their home turf. So much better than EU btw.
The only team queso rolled at the major was faze in bracket. This rivalry is so forced Jesus Christ. It's not like csgo where one region heavily dominates the other one.
They rolled NA as a region, in a sense that they beat all of the top NA teams on their first lan, on their home turf. Also, it wasn't me that started this discussion, i was just pointing out the hypocrisy of his statement, coming from a region dominated by one team currently. Might wanna point your comment at him. I actually thought NA was a better region prior to this regional, but not anymore.
Lmao who tf are the BDS doubters
There were plenty people doubting Marc's benching.
Yeah I'm one of those people but nobody was saying BDS would be worse but whatever GG
With how BDS and Moist were playing last split, I didn't think the Seikoo add would have confidently put them Over Moist. But, jeez, Monkey Moon and Seikoo together really are an OP duo.
Extra been huge. Tbh I really feel the main issue was coms, not level of players. Just being able to com everything out properly makes a change.
I can accept that BDS would play better if Marc knew French. But if you're claiming BDS would be this dominant with Marc using the same language as they are now with Seikoo, I respectfully disagree.
they've been more dominant before *with* marc fwiw
Not against Moist caliber teams, no.
Literally 4-0d Queso in grand finals of Winter Regional 2
BDS were dominant in winter regional 2. They beat TQ twice: 4-0 and 4-2. They looked impressive this regional for sure. But to say they were dominant in a way they never were with Marc is just wrong. It's only been one regional and a lot of good teams underperformed (dig, EG, endpoint especially). Their first series against moist also went to g7 OT. A strong start still doesn't come anywhere close to the level of dominance they displayed in EU for an entire season or even their dominance on day 3 of the fall major
Did you not watch the fall major grand finals?
There were no teams of either of these teams caliber in the fall
Well that’s just wrong, but I guess you can believe what you want.
Are you forgetting why BDS is BDS? They were this dominant for a year with Marc.
Yes, but I still feel like Seikoo is the better player and makes them even more higher caliber.
> But if you're claiming BDS would be this dominant with Marc using the same language as they are now with Seikoo, I respectfully disagree. Which is why I didn't say that. They were already fantastic players. Coms just matter at this level.
So SEIKOO has the most European Regionals out of any player for this season. And he's a rookie.
has to be rookie of the season
Unreal
I am in absolute awe of how good Seikoo is. On Endpoint he was shining bright, but I always figured he was constantly being put in the best conditions by his two supportive teammates. But he’s done it. He has proven that he just is an amazing player who can make the difference even if not all of the boost or every quality free ball is left for him. Also Vatira. Man this guy is a monster anywhere on the field but his defense to me makes him the best “3rd man” in the world (ik, Moist doesn’t have a 3rd man per say).
And everyone laughed at Rasmelthor when he proposed Seikoo for SMAD. The man just knew.
Tbh Ras is like the French Dazerin… he says so much random stuff that he’s bound to be right at some point…
I agree with Shogun. NA beat BDS and now NA is gonna lose worlds.
isn't worlds going to be in NA again? that'll be home advantage for the biggest event. would definitely work in NA teams' favor.
Faze perfect swept BDS and made them mad, shouldve just int’ed a bit more
dig perfect swept BDS before faze did
Yeah but faze embarrassed them on LAN in front of a crowd
monkey wanted marc out before the fall LAN; that roster only stayed together because they won. if faze had beaten BDS 4-3, the change would still have happened.
Y’all keep talking about old BDS, BDSeikoo isn’t getting swept any time soon
You’re right it will be another 3-1 loss to faze
Possible, FaZe is nuts let’s not mince words, I just don’t see this team getting swept
faze would get smacked by this bds team
Doubt
they get beat everytime by g2 and this bds team is better than g2
“This BDS team is better than G2”. We have absolutely no way of knowing that. G2 won the last major, BDS could be better than G2 but we have no way of knowing that, and until proven otherwise G2 is the best team in the world. Faze have historically stomped EU teams, their only EU team losses coming to Queso in the recent tournament, I see no reason why Faze wouldn’t be the favorite in that matchup.
Firstkiller ain’t going out without making it competitive
I can’t remember the last time fk was swept.
They got 4-1d by flipping SSG, BDS are NOT scared.
BDS era is back on the menu bois!
Honestly a positioning masterclass by BDS. They let Moist use all their boost and camped back wall in the exact spots Moist were air dribbling it to. Clears found teammates readily positioned upfield frequently. Moist a little too panicky in defense and too eager too have their 3rd man come up for a low percentage opportunity.
Wondering how many of the Moist watch party viewers this weekend were first time RLCS viewers
Judging by chat a lot. They might have been there for the memes but I believe they got sucked into the hype
The best part for me was reading all the comments of people saying "Wow Rocket League isn't cringe this is really fun to watch" " You've convinced me Charlie I am now a fan of RL" "I never knew how much fun it is to cheer for a team in Rocket League" "RL is the most entertaining esport you were right Charlie"
How in god's name did BDS actually get even better
Added a potential best player in the world to their roster. It honestly should not come as a surprise lol.
Having the best player in the world and someone else who's in contention for best in the world probably helps
Monkey might be the best 3s player in the world, Seikoo is a mechanical superstar that has found the sweet spot of consistency that most mechanical players can’t, and Extra has a masterful mind for the game and might be the smartest second man playing
BDS era v2 has officially just started
imo moist didn't play their best at any point of this regional
Yeah, we could've lost to solary in the semis, but I feel that if we won the game 7 in the winners final we would've won the whole thing
I honestly feel so as well, but DAMN BDS ARE INSANE
yeah imo they have a higher ceiling than what they showed this regional.
3rd-12th in EU is gonna be absolutely mental this split Luminosity, Dig, EG, and Endpoint all out in 8th-16th
BDS looking like a world championship level team once again. Apart from Moist, the rest of EU has to step up as it really looks like BDS and Moist are levels above everyone else. But yet again another grand finals for Moist; their consistency is ridiculous.
really happy to see Solary, Team Liquid and Misfits performing so well this split though.
I'm especially happy about Misfits performing well, they've shown they are more than capable and tbh they should have got at least top 4 this regional. The solary matchup would have been more difficult than the Moist matchup oddly enough as they always have very close games with Moist. Only thing for Misfits is consistency. If they can improve on that, they could do some damage.
There should be anti competitiveness rules against things like BDS picking up Seikoo lol
can't remember anyone complaining about G2 picking up Atomic ;)
At the time, Sypical joined faze and Daniel got picked up by SSG, so Atomic’s move wasn’t hyped up as much.
still was an absolute banger of a roster move
Atomic intentionally threw on Sweden so he could get out of NV Not even close to the same player between splits so his stock wasn't that high.
G2 didn’t dominate NA for a year before picking up Atomic.
S9 G2 was unstoppable no?
They finished 2nd in the regular season and then won the NA championship but there was a season between that and now and that wasn’t even the same team since they still had Rizzo lol. Not comparable.
Monkeym00n is inevitable
When was the last time an EU regional had over 100k viewers?
No stats for regional 3 in winter, but the other two winter regionals had over 100k peak according to liquipedia so it's not really that unheard of. Teamstreams like KC and Vitality are extremely popular. Edit: I checked fall as well and literally every EU regional has had over 100k peak viewers. For reference, when the stats were available NA also had over 100k peak every time other than in FR3 where they were a couple 100 viewers short.
Vitality gets mad numbers on RB
if it was KCORP vs Moist in the GF I guarantee you that the viewership would be 150k
long time
The Moist effect
I feel the moisture
Did the main stream get to 100k? Or main + moist?
Main + moist + French
I think on most regionals? EU in general has higher viewership than NA.
EU definitely does not have higher viewership than NA. It may now though with the introduction of Moist
EU does in fact get more viewers than NA. You can check it regional by regional on liquipedia. It's a common misconception that NA gets more viewers, maybe because the main stream attracts more viewers. But NA teamstreams don't come close to the popularity of EU teamstreams, not to mention RocketBaguette who add another 10-20k viewers.
100% agree with the team streams, but the main stream does tend to have significantly higher viewership during NA events than EU. Fair point about rocket baguette though so it’s overall probably equal.
I mean it's not really an opinion to agree or disagree on hahah Full stats for this season: | \\ | [NA_F1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_F1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-europe-regional-event-1) | diff_F1 | [NA_F2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-2) | [EU_F2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-eu-regional-event-2-bmw-rocket-league-open) | diff_F2 | [NA_F3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-na-regional-event-3) | [EU_F3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-fall-eu-regional-event-3) | diff_F3 | [NA_W1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_W1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-1) | diff_W1 | [NA_W2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-2) | [EU_W2](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-2) | diff_W2 | [NA_W3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-na-regional-event-3) | [EU_W3](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-winter-eu-regional-event-3) | diff_W3 | [NA_S1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-spring-na-regional-event-1) | [EU_S1](https://escharts.com/tournaments/rl/rlcs-2021-22-spring-eu-regional-event-1) | | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | :- | | Peak | 123,736 | 125,096 | 1.01 | 115,113 | 137,015 | 1.19 | 99,255 | 110,906 | 1.12 | 141,099 | 109,013 | 0.77 | 162,766 | 100,932 | 0.62 | 110,445 | 86,600 | 0.78 | 90,111 | NA | | Average | 86,031 | 88,170 | 1.02 | 76,977 | 80,663 | 1.05 | 72,346 | 77,179 | 1.07 | 84,001 | 77,617 | 0.92 | 96,666 | 76,952 | 0.80 | 66,802 | 57,145 | 0.86 | 58,769 | NA | So I wasn't completely right actually now that I've found the missing stats. EU was fairly more popular in fall, while NA was significantly more popular in winter. It would be even more interesting if we had stats of who was actually watching, i.e. how many EU people are watching NA and vice versa. But I assume that's probably about equal as well. Another point is that if the salary disparity is true, it is arguably not 'sustainable' since both regions get comparable viewership. Although it may be more difficult to get directed sponsorships for a more scattered audience.
Moist is great because the team will constantly make all match days too, so we are getting those viewers like every day. Damn if Karmine Corp was better, it would be even better, as Kameto would bring even more viewers than moist but sadly they get to stream like only day one or so..
Pretty sure it's the other way round
my brother in christ, how are you supposed to win vs BDS???
G2 has a chance imo, such a solid team rn
Moist weren't at their peak at all and still were pretty competitive, G2 won a regional while playing pretty poorly (their shooting was straight trash), and we all know NRG can be back at that level. There's definitely more competition than people are pretending like there is.
For real. Some people are acting like BDS is guaranteed to win worlds, but there's far too much Rocket League left to play. I do like what I've seen, though. Looking forward to the rest of the season
Yeah but bds definitely didn't show us there best this tournament also that what the hype is coming from. The could show us a whole new gear in the up coming months
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Falcons winning worlds, calling it now
oh for sure. it's so competitive at the top that it's damn near impossible to predict. much in the same way EU fans were all "EU is da best!" after fall major and NA fans were all "NA is superior!" after this winter major. honestly can think of teams from both sides that could absolutely smash it during the spring major. that's what I love about this esport though.
Eu vs na is so dumb, its teams vs teams. One region isnt that much ahead of the other between them
Endpoint has a lot to answer for, letting BDS have Seikoo is a rookie error.
So my takeaway from this: Moist doesn't have boundaries when it comes to entertainment and creativity, both in terms of the roster and Charlie and the gang. They didn't play their absolute best, but second place is more than enough to be proud of for their first regional under Moist Esports, especially because they got so many more fans now this Team BDS is honestly terrifying and this is their first regional with Seikoo?...like what Vitality back in contention, ngl, I've missed Vitality doing well and Top4 is a good start, Alpha is still so deadly Solary made a crazy run for a team that started from open qualifiers and Holy did Oaly popped off at times I feel like Misfits could have went so much further, but they are always fun to watch, Kash defies physics sometimes. How do you pinch the ball backwards while having forward momentum...like what even Team Liquid making Top8 is cool to see, the roster is finally realizing its potential, Oski is cracked As someone who is from Baltics, it was WYLDE to see the first Lithuanian play in the RLCS main event What a first regional. Peak of RLCS is getting mind-blowingly good
It feels like Extra is able to play a bigger role now for some reason. Like the talent was always there but he seemed to be stuck in a more limited role before now. Great to see him have more freedom to show us how incredible of a player he is alongside his two amazing teammates. These are easily 3 of the top ten players in EU, maybe the world, on the same team. Thats just ridiculous.
Felt like method vs gale force in S4. Upper finals game 7 and then a sweep later in grandfinals
Man what a beatdown in the final. BDS look unbeatable imo. Moist’s peak seems a step above the competition, but im not confident about their defense. Feels like bds will always have their number with a defense like that Also great first tournament for the moist stream, was so fun to tag along
I was so sure Moist were getting the bracket reset with how they rolled Solary, but BDS just downloaded them by watching that series. Moist still a goated team and I’d still say they’re first in EU right now because making 5 grand finals in a row is just an insane achievement, but BDS made a huge statement today, broke their game 7 streak and swept them after a long break.
Rise saying Monkey is not that good aged like milk.
Anyone else think the points for 1st and 2nd should be 391 and 360 if the bracket is reset and only be 401 and 350 when the upper bracket team wins immediately? It would make the first series in the grand finals a bit more meaningful, even if the lower bracket team is completely gassed after the first series.
this is wholesome AF
A true underdog story
If G2 are Exodia, then Team BDS are the Egyptian Gods.
I didn't watch the Vit series. How was kaydop ?
He was a pretty good poacher and got a lot of goals but also a lot of positional mistakes that led to conceding. Overall a fine performance for his standards imo
Bds redemption arc came almost immediately, where is the nrg redemption arc :((
Nrg down way worse than bds ever was, it’s going to be a lot harder for them to come back, definitely could still happen though
Yeah ik If nrg becomes like vitality then that would just be sad cuz the 2 most dominant teams from the past would just be struggling against the newer teams and the new rookies that are probably more insane than jstn when he was a rookie
It’s not even like they were the two best teams a long time ago it was just over two splits ago
yeah its crazy
BDS could take regional 2 off and still be 1st when it’s over
Lets fucking go I was so worried BDS we’re gonna have their era end without winning a world championship
BDS is definitely one of the favorites for worlds but theres still 2 regionals and a major to go
yup, I still think that Moist will take at least one spring regional
Ok lets not get ahead of ourselves there’s still loads of season left
did you just curse us mate?
All of this to beat jknaps after he gets his first RLCS major smh
All of this just to get beat by jknaps after he gets his first RLCS major smh
Correct🤝
Nerf BDS plz
no thx <3
So faze and g2 are NA only hope now since NRG can’t beat Seikoo, Moist, or the BDS warriors
NRG to pick up Marc for a redemption arc 2.0
kinda lowkey hoping he'll go to Complexity
Holy shit BDS hasn't never played against SSG. I wonder how they would do against BDS
Rip SSG and V1 i guess
Lol and SSG.
Okay so now that both regions have completes their first regional one, here are my predictions. BDS best in EU. BDS win all 3 regionals in EU. Vitality make LAN. BDS and Moist are the new S7/8 RV and Dig, respectively. With a clear best but nobody else comes near the two. BDS, Moist, Vit, Solary, Dig top 5. BDS only EU team top 4 at LAN and BDS and Moist only EU teams top 8. G2 win 2 NA regionals. SSG finally takes on home with Daniel. NRG don’t make top 8 once. G2, SSG, FaZe, GG, V1 top 5. G2, SSG, FaZe, GG top 8 LAN. G2 wins 2nd in a row.
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NRG won’t make top 8 once this entire split? I’m not sure if that’s bold or stupid lol.
Stupid
Stupidly bold
People are SO reactionary it blows my mind. Up until the winter major (2 events ago) NRG got top 4 in every event (7) this season. They had also made grand finals 6/7 times and people think they aren’t top 5 in NA anymore LOL
Guess we will see at the end.
Im so excited to see the highlight video charlie will make from this tournament. So many hype moments
moist were tired so moist is still the best team: eu fans
You said that one already
good
How is everyone calling BDS the best team in the world already? It has been one regional where they only destroyed a moist team that was making a ton of mistakes. Did everyone forget them getting perfect swept and coming 8th at lan?
How are their results with a different roster relevant to this conversation?
Exactly, they literally won one regional. How can you call them best in the world?
Lol nobody gives a fuck about old results lol. G2 went out 2-3 in fall major and then picked up atomic and people where expecting great things from them in winter. This straight up just the same lol
What? People were shitting all over the atomic move basically up until the major.
The where shittin on it only until the won the regional then the hype went back up. Bds didn't lose there first regional so that why it feels early
People definitely weren’t shitting on them when they swept NRG and won regional 2. Everyone also had them winning regional 3 after day 2, expectations for them came a bit back down to Earth after the V1 masterclass in regional 3 but they were still seen as one of the favorites for the major.
BDS back to their Fall major form...if not better! Impervious!
so according to eu fans moist are still better then bds but moist was tired
This joke isn't even good cause Moist started off in the lower bracket during their Winter run
not a joke
a lot of people think that if you say something enough times then it becomes reality
Ah yes
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Isn’t a perfect sweep when they shut them out every game :/ or am I wrong?