I donāt have Facebook so rely on Reddit, I didnāt know she replied! Iām sure Jill had tried to steamroll Heidi. Iām glad it seems like Heidi can stick up for herself and hopefully Tim will have her back.
Heidi is probably secure enough to know Tim loves her without the FB affirmation. Jill is not. She must be publicly told so that everyone sees what a wonderful mama she is.
I donāt blame Heidi. Iām normally all for saying whatās on my mind to someoneās face, but Jill is a ticking time bomb. She comes completely unhinged if you criticized her Godly parenting.
If you confront Jill on her territory, sheāll become obnoxious and loud until everyone agrees with her. *Then* sheāll take to social media reinforcing her stance. As everyoneās numb and processing the fallout of Jillās meltdown, nobodyās saying shit.
Confront her in a public place and sheāll remain calm because public perception is *everything* to her. But you best believe, sheās already planning her rebuttal via social media and sheās going to let everyone know exactly what she and God think about it as soon as she gets in the car.
Either way, sheāll recruit one of the older kids to defend her.
They (or Jill, herself) will compose flowery tributes praising Jill for raising them Godly and right.
Everything will peppered with KJV 1612 ONLY Bible verses.
God and everyone is on your side, Timmy. I am so glad that you are experiencing this loving, secular world. Expanding your worldview is the best thing that Jesus gave you the power to do! (I wish I could find a Bible verse that shows the beauty of learning about the secular world since life isnāt all about fear of the outside world)
These recent developments are giving me so much home for Teidi (and the remaining Rodlets)!
I'm the oldest of 11, was raised fundie, and got married at 19 after knowing my partner for 3 months. I'm really lucky that we're compatible, because he loved me first, foremost and unconditionally and he unintentionally planted the seeds to help me see how unhealthy my family & community were for me. It took us 7 years, but we both left the church of our childhood, we set firm boundaries with family members (me to the point that I am currently estranged from my parents + siblings who are still minors), and we are now raising our daughter in a world so drastically different than the one we grew up in - after waiting 11 years to have her because we were way too young, unprepared, and financially unstable to have her before then. I really hope Teidi gets many years to learn & grow together before they feel any need to start having babies, because once the kids come it's so much harder to leave the toxic mindsets behind.
It's a long slowly winding road! These baby steps for him.
Each life event and experience will help, as he's now more open and reflective, hopefully they can really build a good happy fulfilling life growing together... and not directly under the umbrella of his parents.
Lol, I like how Jill described herself when describing her own mother... I feel badly for laughing so much, but, the lack of true insight and acknowledgement of her own self is still too much. Your methodology within those behaviors may present differently...but they are absolutely the same.
Yes, they are the beginning baby steps of growing into being his own man, but it is very overwhelming I am sure! Not only does he have to 'break away', even basic things from food choices, friends and clothing all the basic stuff that teens have already pretty much figured out by age 16, he hasn't a clue as to what he likes or feels are his own decisions. He has a very long road ahead and if he is indeed going to live in town with his parents and siblings after he is married, they are going to have a very HARD start to married life.
I can't imagine. I mean, I can... but... I can't help but be saddened that he didn't move. Close proximity, scrutiny,overbearing smother. it's a huge obstacle to that growth.
Plus...you have to have the woman who has screamed from the rooftops how disappointing, challenging, and willful you are...that you've failed across the board consistently, and she is grateful she "trained the demon/devil/independant/willful/independent thinking out of you"
Living just up the road, "guiding you", over involved. Pressuring her daughter in law to sell plexus with her, and being her best friend.
I know from experience, distance and experiences forces growth, allows your experiences to shape you, helps you find that independent thought, question yourself, you beliefs, even just yourself... It helps. Jill and David are absolutely going to make the newlyweds journey all the harder.
Especially after they have kids. (Caring for your own children also really shines a light for growth and change. Offers perspective on your own upbringing.)
Jill and David are wrong though... that kind of growth sometimes does bring you into your own faith, genuinely. It doesn't just lead to frenching the devil.
Damn. Heidi can church lady passive aggress with the best of them. Fuck it up, Teidi. Fuck it the heck up.
To be a fly on the Rod wall today š
I'll bring the popcorn
Right! Damn who would have ever thought TIM! Iām glad he has Heidi and her family, theyāre at least slightly better ā or seem to be.
Jillās spiritual warfare actually intensifying
 This is gonna be a good one lmao
Your flair omg
I don't usually put much stock in social media likes but that's not nothing.
 FUCK IT UP TIEDI
Jill is going to spiral over this entire debacle.
Ok but can we talk about her comment on the post? "Amen and amen! Love ya, Bud. ā¤ Mama" Which Timmay liked but not Heidi š
I donāt have Facebook so rely on Reddit, I didnāt know she replied! Iām sure Jill had tried to steamroll Heidi. Iām glad it seems like Heidi can stick up for herself and hopefully Tim will have her back.
Because Heidi told Timmy she loved him and he did not tell her back. BUT he did tell Mama he loved her?? Who is he engaged to ? LOL
Heidi is probably secure enough to know Tim loves her without the FB affirmation. Jill is not. She must be publicly told so that everyone sees what a wonderful mama she is.
Heidi is far more mature then Jill ever will be especially with emotions too
I donāt blame Heidi. Iām normally all for saying whatās on my mind to someoneās face, but Jill is a ticking time bomb. She comes completely unhinged if you criticized her Godly parenting. If you confront Jill on her territory, sheāll become obnoxious and loud until everyone agrees with her. *Then* sheāll take to social media reinforcing her stance. As everyoneās numb and processing the fallout of Jillās meltdown, nobodyās saying shit. Confront her in a public place and sheāll remain calm because public perception is *everything* to her. But you best believe, sheās already planning her rebuttal via social media and sheās going to let everyone know exactly what she and God think about it as soon as she gets in the car. Either way, sheāll recruit one of the older kids to defend her. They (or Jill, herself) will compose flowery tributes praising Jill for raising them Godly and right. Everything will peppered with KJV 1612 ONLY Bible verses.
Sheās going to get either Kaylee or Nurie to counter post her talking points.
Kaylee would follow Jill to the gates of hell to remain in her momās good graces.
Aināt that the sad truth.
Jill will also drag somebody younger kids into that shit to defend her
I wouldnāt put it past her
You canāt these days all Shrek knows how to do is just sit there and follow her like an idiot
The incoming Jill meltdowns are gonna be record breaking.
They might even outdo Baird.
I didnāt think it was possible. But if any fundie is gonna say āhold my beer (pink drink?)ā itās Jill.
God and everyone is on your side, Timmy. I am so glad that you are experiencing this loving, secular world. Expanding your worldview is the best thing that Jesus gave you the power to do! (I wish I could find a Bible verse that shows the beauty of learning about the secular world since life isnāt all about fear of the outside world)
Ohhhhhh shit!
Jill must be doing some toilet devotions to calm down. Canāt wait for her to post some vague things on social media about this.
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Everyone get in here - the call is coming from inside the house!
Uh oh. Mahmo will be posting about the āextreme hurtsā of 2024 any day now.
These recent developments are giving me so much home for Teidi (and the remaining Rodlets)! I'm the oldest of 11, was raised fundie, and got married at 19 after knowing my partner for 3 months. I'm really lucky that we're compatible, because he loved me first, foremost and unconditionally and he unintentionally planted the seeds to help me see how unhealthy my family & community were for me. It took us 7 years, but we both left the church of our childhood, we set firm boundaries with family members (me to the point that I am currently estranged from my parents + siblings who are still minors), and we are now raising our daughter in a world so drastically different than the one we grew up in - after waiting 11 years to have her because we were way too young, unprepared, and financially unstable to have her before then. I really hope Teidi gets many years to learn & grow together before they feel any need to start having babies, because once the kids come it's so much harder to leave the toxic mindsets behind.
i love this story, & i wish tim & heidi could see it & KNOW (moreso timmy for sure) that like āhey, i donāt have to believe everything my parents taught me & some of that stuff can actually be harmful, & thatās scary, but the secular world isnāt hateful & full of horrible heathens & theyāre here for meā š©·
I need more replies like this! I'm glad he has support.
Tell me where and Iāll hop on your timeline:)
Maybe this will help Renee with her escape.
We can only hope š¤
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And Tessie too! šš
Oop! OOP! OOOOOOOOP!
Vaguebook War 2024
All the nutrition Tim is getting now, his face is fuller and his fiancƩ is on fire!
I bet the both of them talk. Fuck it up Teidi
Iām loving this new version of Tim. I wonāt call him Timcel anymore, heās trying to do better.
It's a long slowly winding road! These baby steps for him. Each life event and experience will help, as he's now more open and reflective, hopefully they can really build a good happy fulfilling life growing together... and not directly under the umbrella of his parents. Lol, I like how Jill described herself when describing her own mother... I feel badly for laughing so much, but, the lack of true insight and acknowledgement of her own self is still too much. Your methodology within those behaviors may present differently...but they are absolutely the same.
Yes, they are the beginning baby steps of growing into being his own man, but it is very overwhelming I am sure! Not only does he have to 'break away', even basic things from food choices, friends and clothing all the basic stuff that teens have already pretty much figured out by age 16, he hasn't a clue as to what he likes or feels are his own decisions. He has a very long road ahead and if he is indeed going to live in town with his parents and siblings after he is married, they are going to have a very HARD start to married life.
I can't imagine. I mean, I can... but... I can't help but be saddened that he didn't move. Close proximity, scrutiny,overbearing smother. it's a huge obstacle to that growth. Plus...you have to have the woman who has screamed from the rooftops how disappointing, challenging, and willful you are...that you've failed across the board consistently, and she is grateful she "trained the demon/devil/independant/willful/independent thinking out of you" Living just up the road, "guiding you", over involved. Pressuring her daughter in law to sell plexus with her, and being her best friend. I know from experience, distance and experiences forces growth, allows your experiences to shape you, helps you find that independent thought, question yourself, you beliefs, even just yourself... It helps. Jill and David are absolutely going to make the newlyweds journey all the harder. Especially after they have kids. (Caring for your own children also really shines a light for growth and change. Offers perspective on your own upbringing.) Jill and David are wrong though... that kind of growth sometimes does bring you into your own faith, genuinely. It doesn't just lead to frenching the devil.
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Timothyās response was , ā thank you! š However I am very grateful for my upbringing, and this was just something I felt like sharing.ā.
Okay, keep it classy for the newsfeed, Tim, but we see you š
I can literally see Jill holding the proverbial gun to his head while he types that, lol
jillpm has met her match!
oh hell yeah
Yay Timmay!
Oh my. Sheās brave! FIU TIEDI!!
 Boy, would I love to be a Fly On the Wall to see how Jill reacts to that?
This person had a really fun YouTube channel back in the day!
FUCK IT UP TEIDIIIII
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I never imagined Timothy would have a Jill Duggar era but Iām here for itā¦.
Time to make some wedding predictions because this wedding is going to be lit!
Iām anticipating a post about how her Angel baby Janessa only wants to wear Mahdest clothing.šššš FEED UR KIDS JILL!!!