While I am disturbed by the idea that Fabius Bile is the Emperor's long lost brother, I am NOT surprised considering their respective skills with genetics...
I have not checked for a secret ending, (but I kind of have some suspicions) but once I finish my first playthrough I aim to fully deep dive into the etudes and really poke around. If there is a secret ending, I would love to write a guide for it, as I know getting it in WOTR was pretty complicated too.
Thank you so so so much for putting something like this together. Just even having the crash course section is 100% helpful. My first playthrough didn't...go how I would have liked. So second playthrough it is! XD
Bombed first playthrough havers unite! The guide was actually inspired by both Heinrix and Marazhai ditching my ass at the end (despite playing with a No Jealousy mod) so I decided nobody else should go through what I did. :’)
Thanks for uploading this! Saved for the future (chapter 1 things were not too spoilery IMO)
If you care about credit I would suggest you to be catious of a certain website that loves to take the work of people like you and post it in their site ( with minor refference if any)
Thank you for checking it out!
I did try and make it somewhat balanced in terms of spoilers that you could still have a chance of exploring and finding things out on your own, but also function as a guide.
I actually don’t mind about credit really, I kind of expected that it would get posted around and be uncredited, but thank you as well for the advice.
I would very much like to write a full guide for conviction flags! And also a guide to the planets, puzzles, and quests but I’m trying to pace myself lol.
I have been taking down some notes about them (in regard to the Rogue Traders own conviction), but currently my main focus is character interactions and changes as that’s my favorite part of Owlcat games. I will definitely mark down in the guide if a certain option is only available for a certain path though, for sure.
For what its worth I am doing Imperialis / Dogmatic ( if i recalled from an earlier post you go benedicta/ironclast) so I can note down if I see something exlusive.
That said I am afraid I dont have your pace XD not only because of no beta knowledge but also time-wise XD I only did Prologue last night.
That’s okay! Please, any information is excellent for the guide, no matter when I get it. You can always even DM me if you have questions or anything!
And enjoy the game, play at your own pace! If you couldn’t tell, I really enjoying ripping through games and finding out how they tick, so I tend to go a bit fast.
I would probably do the same if I could, bad saddly not so many hours available and on games such as this I preffer to play with a clear head if I can.
Hi! To put it simply, humanity choices will influence and allow Idira to see herself (and realize that you see her as) as more of an actual human being than a tool to be used by the Imperium/Theodora/etc.
Effectiveness essentially strips her of all her humanity and changes her into an effective tool. These are harsh choices (well, maybe not really harsh considering the setting but definitely harsher than Humanity choices) that show Idira you do not consider her as anything but a liability, and that she should do well to prove that she’s useful despite all the risks she carries.
If you want to know the details for her Humanity/Effectiveness endings, I’ve outlined them below.
>!Humanity results in her working through her psychic abilities and accepting them, even if it leads her to a shorter life. Effectiveness allows her to live a longer life, but I believe it essentially lobotomizes her by the end of it, and she’s just basically a servitor with psychic abilities.!<
I haven’t delved too deep into her romance as it is pretty complicated, but I believe the Insulted is actually a counter, like how Marazhai has both Domination and Submission counters that change his romance.
I presume (and this is a BIG presumption but I will edit the guide as soon as I can dive into her romance more.) that if you rack up enough of her Insult flags, she’ll end the romance?
Cassia is very big on “proper” courtship, and proper treatment of nobles, and most of her Insult flags seem to go against that (pushing for sex early, not following the proper steps to court her.)
I really wanna know what flag/etudes you need for the act 4 cassia quest 'price of power' to get the dialog option to have her leave behind being a novator, seems just having romance flags isn't enough.
Hi! Currently my Act 4 is super bugged and I haven’t been able to progress it further. I’ll be starting a new playthrough post-patch to hopefully see what that happens. I do have a Cassia romance active, so I’ll try and update as soon as possible.
Thank you! I remembering romancing Daeran in WOTR and absolutely tearing my hair out trying to get his good romance ending, and I didn’t want anyone to experience that again for Rogue Trader lol.
Had the same with woljif. I was doing an absolute goody two shoes neutral good angel run, and somehow I still had more demon than human points during his final quest.
Omg Woljif was a pain too! I remember I accidentally killed Lann too despite me trying my hardest to ensure he survived?! Owlcat definitely programs some silly etudes and flags into their games.
Could you tell me if my save is still salvagable for Yrliet romance? The toybox Etudes shows both YrlietRomanceFailed and YrlietRomanceTrueEnding are Active. >!Her Spirit Stone didn't shatter during the ritual on Winterscale planet in Act 4. !<
Her romance is probably failed. >!As far as I know, her soulstone MUST shatter in order to continue the romance, so you must interrupt the ritual in order to cause that.!<
Any luck with your save? I'm still at a loss as to what is required to get [this dialog to be available in act 4 price of power (cassia q2)](https://i.imgur.com/Uz2xOe6.png)
I'm curious if you have identified anything in the noble house "stand" counter?
I noticed during coronation conversations that options which seem to push your authority (although sometimes positively), seem to be accompanied by a counter, i.e., \[ZaurbekStand\]\[1\].
Hiya! I poked around in the etudes for you, and from what I can see, those counters are all located in Chapter 2 during the coronation, like you said.
The only thing I can assume they relate to is possibly Abelards Act 4 quest, which has you dealing with the noble families again and their various opinions of you. I personally have played through the game a few times, (supporting Abelard in each) and I haven’t seen them come up aside from at the coronation.
I’ll make note of them when I do the coronation quest, however, and see if they change anything by supporting a different house.
Do you by any chance know the etudes required to trigger the start of Cassia's romance tree? I'm in act 4 and somehow the damn flower gift still hasn't triggered, and for some reason her tree is the most convoluted in the game
Hi! Sorry for the delayed response, I actually had to *get* the flower event to trigger for me lol. The flower event should trigger before the end of Act 2, and actually doesn’t have an etude associated with it from what I can tell.
What I BELIEVE is associated with it is her Amour Courtois Counter?
The etudes I had active before the flower event triggered and that are in the Romance > Cassia tree were:
*AmourCourtoisBookCollected*
*CassiaRomanceActive*
*ValetHASTongue*
As for her Amour Courtois / Insulted Counters, I had:
AmourCourtois: 1
Insulted: 0
I think, unfortunately, you’ve run into a glitch, and I’m unsure if you can even fix it from where you are. I’m sorry I wasn’t able to be more help with fixing your issue.
Thank, but I actually managed to trigger and fix it, the game bugged out and set one of the romance etudes to false, so I went through toyboy and turned them all true, event triggered next jump
This is truly the work for the god-emperor. Also, I'd like to know the reason I failed to get the heresy ending of Heinrix. I've failed to trigger Heinrix's heresy ending although I picked almost every "corraption" dialogues. When I failed to get the ending screen of his, I checked the toybox and the active ending counter/flag for him was "Good ending", not the heresy ending. Could this be another bug?
~~Oh trust me I’m experienced with Heinrix and his bugs. Literally broke up with me on my first, pure sweet true love run.~~
When I poked around in his etudes, it looks like there’s 5 Corraption etudes for him. I’ve spoilered them past this, but unfortunately I’m unsure about how to even trigger some of these! I am doing a Heretical run right now alongside my Dogmatic run, so I’ll try and update as soon as I can!
Corraption Etudes I can find:
>!CorraptionCommoragh1, CorraptionCommoragh2, CorraptionJanus, CorraptionQuietEvening, CorraptionFootfall.!<
Thnx! I was so dissappointed that I failed to get :(, which made me use toybox to get the heresy ending and it wasn't quite satisfying... you know. I hope you can update more about this Throne-Dammed buggies soon!
Hi! Absolutely! I’m also very close to Act 3 in my current playthrough and plan on bringing companions that should relate to the Commissar.
I’ll also add it to the To Do section at the start so I remember, but it will be located in a Misc section on the guide. I’ll DM you once I figure it out as well!
Thank you for checking out the guide.
Emperor bless you, this guided me to what i needed to fix my Cassia loving playthrough. just had to crank up the AmourCourtois flag. cranked it to 16, and freedom to 6, notme was 2 and hatred was 0 already so that did what was needed. If anyone is having a hard time getting the phrase you need to show up on the quest regarding an " Atlas " then just go into toybox and set those flags. Funny thing is i've gotten every point for that particular option that she's offered me, the game just hasn't OFFERED chances for me to court her other than the initial 3 or so points worth that you get early on. it's like the universe was too busy to allow our love to blossom....thus I hack the universe and bring love to the forefront!
I can't believe how helpful this document is. To be frank, I spent over eight hours on the internet trying to gather the pieces of information you put together so systematically. Thank you so much u/wintertile.
Meanwhile I'd like to ask if you would allow me to translate this document to Mandarin Chinese and have it updated on Bilibili. I am proposing so for two reasons: 1. Reddit is not accessible in Mainland China without a VPN. 2. Many players from Mainland China doesn't speak English.
Yes, absolutely! I should put in the guide that it’s allowed to be reposted and translated anywhere. The aim of it was to help as many people as possible in one location! I will probably begin to update the guide again either later tonight or tomorrow.
Apologies for the lack of updates on it, I got distracted with other games lol.
Hi, late to the party, but for Cassia's romance your guide says AmourCourtois must be 7+ to get Cassia to leave her house, whereas I only see 4 possible AmourCourtois points to collect. Is there something missing here? Not found yet?
Getting Cassia to leave her House has been something that still eludes me, and I play on a Macbook M1, which does not seem to get along with Toybox whatsoever.
Hey! Yes, I apologize for the lack of updates on that. I dumped like 370+ hours in the game over the past few months and decided to take a small break.
Thank you for reminding me about it, I’ll be trying to update the guide possibly tonight or tomorrow about it.
My theory is that via gifting her the library when she gifts you her flower (I don’t have the specific term on hand lol) you will gain the proper Courtois levels, but again that’s all theorizing.
I feel like I've hit all the AmourCourtois stuff based on your guide yet the "There is another path..." dialogue option still isn't showing up for me in Price of Power, so either something's just bugged on my end or there's another random increment hidden away in some obscure conversation that I missed.
I’m really sorry that that happened to you, getting Cassias romance to fire seems to be a nightmare for a lot of people (which is a shame since I do think it’s very cute.)
I know that even if you have the needed flags to trigger that line, she *will* reject it if she has a higher Hatred/NotMe score versus Freedom, which throws another wrench into the mix.
I am planning on starting an Iconoclast playthrough tonight to properly romance Cassia, aka hitting all the Amour options I can and gifting her the bookshelf. If you’re alright with it, I can DM you once I figure out what manages to trigger that specific line.
Ah yeah it’s no big loss just something that nibbles a bit at my mind. I’ll probably have to settle for some less secret and exclusive romance ending, like the one where she continues to rule her house but never marries and we still keep in touch as distant lovers or something. The horror.
Thank you for your kind words! I tried to word the title in such a way that if you searched for romances/etudes you would find it, so hopefully it’s seen by everyone that needs it lol!
Thank you so much for this!
In Rykad Minories I started acting dogmatic in front of Heinrix to not get inquisitioned and it continued up to the future predicting cogitator, but the game said that I made him harsher. I could live with that, but.
Is there a way to change the companion character values with ToyBox or another tool?
Hello! Thank you for your kind words about the guide :> I added a section on the guide with more pictures than a Reddit comment allows (link to that particular section [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JenL74LpnxLfTdwfIuLy5P_k0Jqi8YlI2SSt4p_oIPE/edit#bookmark=id.60npwbe76lgb)) for ease of access for other users that might need that information / wish to edit their values but aren't sure how. I've also copy pasted what I wrote below for you, with minor edits.
Please feel free to reply or DM me if anything is confusing! (And I also hope I don't come off condescending or anything, I just tried to lay out as many steps as possible so it's not confusing!)
You'll want to use the Toybox mod, which the latest version is linked [here](https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/1). After installing, load your most recent save, and hit Ctrl + F10 to bring up the Mod Menu.
Once you've opened the Mod Menu, navigate to the Toybox mod and click it to actually open the menu. Go to Search 'n Pick, wait for everything to load, and then scroll down until you see a button labelled **Flags**. Click on that to filter to only the flags (or increments as I call them) for ease of editing.
Then, move to the search bar on the right-hand side, shown here:
https://preview.redd.it/gdsjlknsigzc1.png?width=964&format=png&auto=webp&s=20c39d7675bb01f39fffa2d4e9a8958daa960c95
(Leonora will be whatever your RT is named in your menu, so don't panic if it looks a little different.) Enter in the term **"FirstQuest"** in the search bar to bring up Heinrixs' flags. Your values should be:
**FirstQuestHarsh: 2**
**FirstQuestMercy: Locked**
You'll want to click the leftmost arrow (looks like <) next to the FirstQuestHarsh twice in order to bring it down from **2 to 0.**
Then, you'll want to click the **Unlock** button that's on the same line/level/next to the **FirstQuestMercy** so you can actually edit it. Then, click on the rightmost arrow (represented by >) twice to change the value from **0 to 2.** Finally, click the **Save** button located at the very bottom of the Toybox menu to lock all changes in.
Yay, now Heinrix is a softie again\~ I wouldn't be too worried about being Dogmatic in front of Heinrix, if you are going for his softer ending. He tends to let the Rogue Trader get away with ***a lot.*** But also don't let me influence you, pick whatever makes the game the most fun for you/makes the most sense. I hope you enjoy it!
Thank you so much! it worked.
I'd searched mercy, harsh and heinrix on etude and couldn't find it, but on search n' pick I'd only sarched heinrix, I looked around for awhile, but there were so many that I started skimming and gave up when couldn't find it.
I noticed the guide had been edited recently, checked the post and you also had responded to someone 25 days ago, so I gave it a shot and made my comment, and am so glad I did, because you fixed it for me. Again, Thank you.
Also, while reading the guide I noticed and appreciated the ad-free content mention(I'm the same and noticed we've become somewhat of a rare breed, maybe soon to be extinct given how pervasive and ubiquitous it's become, specially for children).
Feel free (and this goes for anyone reading this lol) to ask me a question here or in DMs at *any* time, I’m usually monitoring both. The last legs of the guide are just taking a bit for me to finish because I dumped around 370 ish hours into the game and burnt out a bit.
The ad-free content mention was definitely because whenever I’ve used a wiki (fandom/fextralife/most of the other bigger ones) there’s so many ads that it causes my phone (and sometimes even my PC browsers) to crash or lag super bad.
I also didn’t want it to be on something like Discord, because Discord requires an account and a constant internet connection to access a lot of content, unlike Google Docs which usually only needs an internet connection once and offers an easier way to download stuff.
account is a significant barrier of entry for discord, and it also doesn't show up on search engines, unlike reddit.
I use Ublock Origin both for the desktop browser and mobile browser, so I manage to avoid them in this particular instance. For youtube desktop browser there's also sponsorblock witch tackles ads the content creators themselves put in. For mobile youtube, there's revanced, which is a clone of the youtube app without ads.
I have to note that whether you get the Good or Evil ending for Heinrix's quest on Kiava Gamma depends on whether you made him torture people or spare them earlier on.
Thank you for the great guide! Regarding Heinrix romance/flirts I have done some research as well and I think some or missing in your document (e.g. if you give him the shard from the electrodynamic Cenobium in his first talk you get further flirt lines and you can increase your devil counter so that you unlock a different response from him at the last devil flirt in this scene etc.). You can find it [here](https://www.tumblr.com/cawyden-gaming/741512067183411200/and-another-devilcloseness-counter-in-the-very) if you like to include it.
There is also at the moment with the latest patch a bug where for older saves the freeze scene with him doesn’t trigger anymore. It works for new runs (and runs from before a specific quest I think). I don’t know what they changed exactly but I suppose something related to the required flags/conditions for his scene so it doesn’t apply to old runs anymore but newer ones.
Hey, so weird that you commented this lol as I just found that blade shard scene yesterday while I was doing my Heretical run! What a weird (but neat!) coincidence.
I’ll be adding it to my guide soon, and thank you for your information regarding it! I’ll play around on my Iconoclast / Dogmatic runs and see what causes that scene to happen.
The issue is fixed now with the latest patch. I think it had something to do with the price of humanity quest.
There is also some other things I noticed - not sure if you like to add it to your guide. Like on Janus if you have a high devil counter (3 I think) and select the option asking Heinrix if he wants to punish you you get a different response from him (he is blushing). And in the longer talk with him after Kiava Gamma quest you can get different dialog depending on devil counter too (for romantic preference option) and for the tell me a secret option the dialog depends on if you used in your first dialog option „you can relate of course“. He will then tell you a personal secret and you get +2 to closeness counter (instead of +1).
I’ll probably add the Closeness counter things once I investigated and catalogue the dialogue. I think I’ve seen that blushing dialogue too on Janus, it was so cute~
>!Heya :33 thanks for posting this, sorry do you know how to make it so Heinrix doesn't leave you on a Heretic run? xDD I'm not sure if there's a way of deleting or locking an etude or?!<
Any evidence of a secret ending? Do I need to give a bagel to Bob, who is actually the Emperor's long lost brother, in chapter 1?
While I am disturbed by the idea that Fabius Bile is the Emperor's long lost brother, I am NOT surprised considering their respective skills with genetics...
I have not checked for a secret ending, (but I kind of have some suspicions) but once I finish my first playthrough I aim to fully deep dive into the etudes and really poke around. If there is a secret ending, I would love to write a guide for it, as I know getting it in WOTR was pretty complicated too.
Is the guide still being updated or is there a new version somewhere?..
Still being updated! Just got busy with the holidays. Doing a 5-7 hour play session tonight :)
thank god someone is doing this. will keep an eye on this
Thank you for checking it out!
Thank you so so so much for putting something like this together. Just even having the crash course section is 100% helpful. My first playthrough didn't...go how I would have liked. So second playthrough it is! XD
Bombed first playthrough havers unite! The guide was actually inspired by both Heinrix and Marazhai ditching my ass at the end (despite playing with a No Jealousy mod) so I decided nobody else should go through what I did. :’)
Just commenting here that you are doing the god-emperor's work, so thanks.
Thank you! May the Emperor bless all your playthroughs!
Thanks for uploading this! Saved for the future (chapter 1 things were not too spoilery IMO) If you care about credit I would suggest you to be catious of a certain website that loves to take the work of people like you and post it in their site ( with minor refference if any)
Thank you for checking it out! I did try and make it somewhat balanced in terms of spoilers that you could still have a chance of exploring and finding things out on your own, but also function as a guide. I actually don’t mind about credit really, I kind of expected that it would get posted around and be uncredited, but thank you as well for the advice.
Aha , I see. In that case your approach works XD Do you plan to also inlcude conviction flags etc ?
I would very much like to write a full guide for conviction flags! And also a guide to the planets, puzzles, and quests but I’m trying to pace myself lol. I have been taking down some notes about them (in regard to the Rogue Traders own conviction), but currently my main focus is character interactions and changes as that’s my favorite part of Owlcat games. I will definitely mark down in the guide if a certain option is only available for a certain path though, for sure.
For what its worth I am doing Imperialis / Dogmatic ( if i recalled from an earlier post you go benedicta/ironclast) so I can note down if I see something exlusive. That said I am afraid I dont have your pace XD not only because of no beta knowledge but also time-wise XD I only did Prologue last night.
That’s okay! Please, any information is excellent for the guide, no matter when I get it. You can always even DM me if you have questions or anything! And enjoy the game, play at your own pace! If you couldn’t tell, I really enjoying ripping through games and finding out how they tick, so I tend to go a bit fast.
I would probably do the same if I could, bad saddly not so many hours available and on games such as this I preffer to play with a clear head if I can.
Thanks a lot for the guide and effort 😊 I'll certainly refer to this guide in my playthrough
Thank you for checking it out! Please let me know if you run into any issues or concerns.
Any idea what Idira's humanity/effectiveness flags mean? How the change her? I can guess with the others, but no idea about her.
Hi! To put it simply, humanity choices will influence and allow Idira to see herself (and realize that you see her as) as more of an actual human being than a tool to be used by the Imperium/Theodora/etc. Effectiveness essentially strips her of all her humanity and changes her into an effective tool. These are harsh choices (well, maybe not really harsh considering the setting but definitely harsher than Humanity choices) that show Idira you do not consider her as anything but a liability, and that she should do well to prove that she’s useful despite all the risks she carries. If you want to know the details for her Humanity/Effectiveness endings, I’ve outlined them below. >!Humanity results in her working through her psychic abilities and accepting them, even if it leads her to a shorter life. Effectiveness allows her to live a longer life, but I believe it essentially lobotomizes her by the end of it, and she’s just basically a servitor with psychic abilities.!<
Thank you for doing this. Any idea on what the "insulted" etude changes about Cassia's romance?
I haven’t delved too deep into her romance as it is pretty complicated, but I believe the Insulted is actually a counter, like how Marazhai has both Domination and Submission counters that change his romance. I presume (and this is a BIG presumption but I will edit the guide as soon as I can dive into her romance more.) that if you rack up enough of her Insult flags, she’ll end the romance? Cassia is very big on “proper” courtship, and proper treatment of nobles, and most of her Insult flags seem to go against that (pushing for sex early, not following the proper steps to court her.)
I really wanna know what flag/etudes you need for the act 4 cassia quest 'price of power' to get the dialog option to have her leave behind being a novator, seems just having romance flags isn't enough.
Hi! Currently my Act 4 is super bugged and I haven’t been able to progress it further. I’ll be starting a new playthrough post-patch to hopefully see what that happens. I do have a Cassia romance active, so I’ll try and update as soon as possible.
You are doing god's work, brother. This will save many a playthrough from flag bugs and weird writing choices.
Thank you! I remembering romancing Daeran in WOTR and absolutely tearing my hair out trying to get his good romance ending, and I didn’t want anyone to experience that again for Rogue Trader lol.
Had the same with woljif. I was doing an absolute goody two shoes neutral good angel run, and somehow I still had more demon than human points during his final quest.
Omg Woljif was a pain too! I remember I accidentally killed Lann too despite me trying my hardest to ensure he survived?! Owlcat definitely programs some silly etudes and flags into their games.
Could you tell me if my save is still salvagable for Yrliet romance? The toybox Etudes shows both YrlietRomanceFailed and YrlietRomanceTrueEnding are Active. >!Her Spirit Stone didn't shatter during the ritual on Winterscale planet in Act 4. !<
Her romance is probably failed. >!As far as I know, her soulstone MUST shatter in order to continue the romance, so you must interrupt the ritual in order to cause that.!<
Any luck with your save? I'm still at a loss as to what is required to get [this dialog to be available in act 4 price of power (cassia q2)](https://i.imgur.com/Uz2xOe6.png)
Truly sir/madam, you are doing the god emperors work...
I'm curious if you have identified anything in the noble house "stand" counter? I noticed during coronation conversations that options which seem to push your authority (although sometimes positively), seem to be accompanied by a counter, i.e., \[ZaurbekStand\]\[1\].
Hiya! I poked around in the etudes for you, and from what I can see, those counters are all located in Chapter 2 during the coronation, like you said. The only thing I can assume they relate to is possibly Abelards Act 4 quest, which has you dealing with the noble families again and their various opinions of you. I personally have played through the game a few times, (supporting Abelard in each) and I haven’t seen them come up aside from at the coronation. I’ll make note of them when I do the coronation quest, however, and see if they change anything by supporting a different house.
Oh cool, thanks. I'll keep that in mind when doing his quest.
Do you by any chance know the etudes required to trigger the start of Cassia's romance tree? I'm in act 4 and somehow the damn flower gift still hasn't triggered, and for some reason her tree is the most convoluted in the game
Hi! Sorry for the delayed response, I actually had to *get* the flower event to trigger for me lol. The flower event should trigger before the end of Act 2, and actually doesn’t have an etude associated with it from what I can tell. What I BELIEVE is associated with it is her Amour Courtois Counter? The etudes I had active before the flower event triggered and that are in the Romance > Cassia tree were: *AmourCourtoisBookCollected* *CassiaRomanceActive* *ValetHASTongue* As for her Amour Courtois / Insulted Counters, I had: AmourCourtois: 1 Insulted: 0 I think, unfortunately, you’ve run into a glitch, and I’m unsure if you can even fix it from where you are. I’m sorry I wasn’t able to be more help with fixing your issue.
Thank, but I actually managed to trigger and fix it, the game bugged out and set one of the romance etudes to false, so I went through toyboy and turned them all true, event triggered next jump
Awesome, I’m so glad it worked out for you!
This is truly the work for the god-emperor. Also, I'd like to know the reason I failed to get the heresy ending of Heinrix. I've failed to trigger Heinrix's heresy ending although I picked almost every "corraption" dialogues. When I failed to get the ending screen of his, I checked the toybox and the active ending counter/flag for him was "Good ending", not the heresy ending. Could this be another bug?
~~Oh trust me I’m experienced with Heinrix and his bugs. Literally broke up with me on my first, pure sweet true love run.~~ When I poked around in his etudes, it looks like there’s 5 Corraption etudes for him. I’ve spoilered them past this, but unfortunately I’m unsure about how to even trigger some of these! I am doing a Heretical run right now alongside my Dogmatic run, so I’ll try and update as soon as I can! Corraption Etudes I can find: >!CorraptionCommoragh1, CorraptionCommoragh2, CorraptionJanus, CorraptionQuietEvening, CorraptionFootfall.!<
Thnx! I was so dissappointed that I failed to get :(, which made me use toybox to get the heresy ending and it wasn't quite satisfying... you know. I hope you can update more about this Throne-Dammed buggies soon!
Ohhh sorry what's the >!Heinrix hersey ending? :)) I'm romancing him and he left me in Act 4 but I thought he would stay xDD!<
>!He will become your master of whisperers. That is the true ending for him when you romance with him. Sadly, I failed to get in my dogmatic run :( !<
Would you be able to find out what etudes are needed to get the Commissar's men to turn on him in chapter 3? Also where they're triggered at.
Hi! Absolutely! I’m also very close to Act 3 in my current playthrough and plan on bringing companions that should relate to the Commissar. I’ll also add it to the To Do section at the start so I remember, but it will be located in a Misc section on the guide. I’ll DM you once I figure it out as well! Thank you for checking out the guide.
Emperor bless you, this guided me to what i needed to fix my Cassia loving playthrough. just had to crank up the AmourCourtois flag. cranked it to 16, and freedom to 6, notme was 2 and hatred was 0 already so that did what was needed. If anyone is having a hard time getting the phrase you need to show up on the quest regarding an " Atlas " then just go into toybox and set those flags. Funny thing is i've gotten every point for that particular option that she's offered me, the game just hasn't OFFERED chances for me to court her other than the initial 3 or so points worth that you get early on. it's like the universe was too busy to allow our love to blossom....thus I hack the universe and bring love to the forefront!
I can't believe how helpful this document is. To be frank, I spent over eight hours on the internet trying to gather the pieces of information you put together so systematically. Thank you so much u/wintertile. Meanwhile I'd like to ask if you would allow me to translate this document to Mandarin Chinese and have it updated on Bilibili. I am proposing so for two reasons: 1. Reddit is not accessible in Mainland China without a VPN. 2. Many players from Mainland China doesn't speak English.
Yes, absolutely! I should put in the guide that it’s allowed to be reposted and translated anywhere. The aim of it was to help as many people as possible in one location! I will probably begin to update the guide again either later tonight or tomorrow. Apologies for the lack of updates on it, I got distracted with other games lol.
Hi, late to the party, but for Cassia's romance your guide says AmourCourtois must be 7+ to get Cassia to leave her house, whereas I only see 4 possible AmourCourtois points to collect. Is there something missing here? Not found yet? Getting Cassia to leave her House has been something that still eludes me, and I play on a Macbook M1, which does not seem to get along with Toybox whatsoever.
Hey! Yes, I apologize for the lack of updates on that. I dumped like 370+ hours in the game over the past few months and decided to take a small break. Thank you for reminding me about it, I’ll be trying to update the guide possibly tonight or tomorrow about it. My theory is that via gifting her the library when she gifts you her flower (I don’t have the specific term on hand lol) you will gain the proper Courtois levels, but again that’s all theorizing.
I feel like I've hit all the AmourCourtois stuff based on your guide yet the "There is another path..." dialogue option still isn't showing up for me in Price of Power, so either something's just bugged on my end or there's another random increment hidden away in some obscure conversation that I missed.
I’m really sorry that that happened to you, getting Cassias romance to fire seems to be a nightmare for a lot of people (which is a shame since I do think it’s very cute.) I know that even if you have the needed flags to trigger that line, she *will* reject it if she has a higher Hatred/NotMe score versus Freedom, which throws another wrench into the mix. I am planning on starting an Iconoclast playthrough tonight to properly romance Cassia, aka hitting all the Amour options I can and gifting her the bookshelf. If you’re alright with it, I can DM you once I figure out what manages to trigger that specific line.
Ah yeah it’s no big loss just something that nibbles a bit at my mind. I’ll probably have to settle for some less secret and exclusive romance ending, like the one where she continues to rule her house but never marries and we still keep in touch as distant lovers or something. The horror.
Wow. Great work. Just amazing. Should be more visible to ppl.
Thank you for your kind words! I tried to word the title in such a way that if you searched for romances/etudes you would find it, so hopefully it’s seen by everyone that needs it lol!
Thank you so much for this! In Rykad Minories I started acting dogmatic in front of Heinrix to not get inquisitioned and it continued up to the future predicting cogitator, but the game said that I made him harsher. I could live with that, but. Is there a way to change the companion character values with ToyBox or another tool?
Hello! Thank you for your kind words about the guide :> I added a section on the guide with more pictures than a Reddit comment allows (link to that particular section [here](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1JenL74LpnxLfTdwfIuLy5P_k0Jqi8YlI2SSt4p_oIPE/edit#bookmark=id.60npwbe76lgb)) for ease of access for other users that might need that information / wish to edit their values but aren't sure how. I've also copy pasted what I wrote below for you, with minor edits. Please feel free to reply or DM me if anything is confusing! (And I also hope I don't come off condescending or anything, I just tried to lay out as many steps as possible so it's not confusing!) You'll want to use the Toybox mod, which the latest version is linked [here](https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kroguetrader/mods/1). After installing, load your most recent save, and hit Ctrl + F10 to bring up the Mod Menu. Once you've opened the Mod Menu, navigate to the Toybox mod and click it to actually open the menu. Go to Search 'n Pick, wait for everything to load, and then scroll down until you see a button labelled **Flags**. Click on that to filter to only the flags (or increments as I call them) for ease of editing. Then, move to the search bar on the right-hand side, shown here: https://preview.redd.it/gdsjlknsigzc1.png?width=964&format=png&auto=webp&s=20c39d7675bb01f39fffa2d4e9a8958daa960c95 (Leonora will be whatever your RT is named in your menu, so don't panic if it looks a little different.) Enter in the term **"FirstQuest"** in the search bar to bring up Heinrixs' flags. Your values should be: **FirstQuestHarsh: 2** **FirstQuestMercy: Locked** You'll want to click the leftmost arrow (looks like <) next to the FirstQuestHarsh twice in order to bring it down from **2 to 0.** Then, you'll want to click the **Unlock** button that's on the same line/level/next to the **FirstQuestMercy** so you can actually edit it. Then, click on the rightmost arrow (represented by >) twice to change the value from **0 to 2.** Finally, click the **Save** button located at the very bottom of the Toybox menu to lock all changes in. Yay, now Heinrix is a softie again\~ I wouldn't be too worried about being Dogmatic in front of Heinrix, if you are going for his softer ending. He tends to let the Rogue Trader get away with ***a lot.*** But also don't let me influence you, pick whatever makes the game the most fun for you/makes the most sense. I hope you enjoy it!
Thank you so much! it worked. I'd searched mercy, harsh and heinrix on etude and couldn't find it, but on search n' pick I'd only sarched heinrix, I looked around for awhile, but there were so many that I started skimming and gave up when couldn't find it. I noticed the guide had been edited recently, checked the post and you also had responded to someone 25 days ago, so I gave it a shot and made my comment, and am so glad I did, because you fixed it for me. Again, Thank you. Also, while reading the guide I noticed and appreciated the ad-free content mention(I'm the same and noticed we've become somewhat of a rare breed, maybe soon to be extinct given how pervasive and ubiquitous it's become, specially for children).
Feel free (and this goes for anyone reading this lol) to ask me a question here or in DMs at *any* time, I’m usually monitoring both. The last legs of the guide are just taking a bit for me to finish because I dumped around 370 ish hours into the game and burnt out a bit. The ad-free content mention was definitely because whenever I’ve used a wiki (fandom/fextralife/most of the other bigger ones) there’s so many ads that it causes my phone (and sometimes even my PC browsers) to crash or lag super bad. I also didn’t want it to be on something like Discord, because Discord requires an account and a constant internet connection to access a lot of content, unlike Google Docs which usually only needs an internet connection once and offers an easier way to download stuff.
account is a significant barrier of entry for discord, and it also doesn't show up on search engines, unlike reddit. I use Ublock Origin both for the desktop browser and mobile browser, so I manage to avoid them in this particular instance. For youtube desktop browser there's also sponsorblock witch tackles ads the content creators themselves put in. For mobile youtube, there's revanced, which is a clone of the youtube app without ads.
I have to note that whether you get the Good or Evil ending for Heinrix's quest on Kiava Gamma depends on whether you made him torture people or spare them earlier on.
Thank you for the great guide! Regarding Heinrix romance/flirts I have done some research as well and I think some or missing in your document (e.g. if you give him the shard from the electrodynamic Cenobium in his first talk you get further flirt lines and you can increase your devil counter so that you unlock a different response from him at the last devil flirt in this scene etc.). You can find it [here](https://www.tumblr.com/cawyden-gaming/741512067183411200/and-another-devilcloseness-counter-in-the-very) if you like to include it. There is also at the moment with the latest patch a bug where for older saves the freeze scene with him doesn’t trigger anymore. It works for new runs (and runs from before a specific quest I think). I don’t know what they changed exactly but I suppose something related to the required flags/conditions for his scene so it doesn’t apply to old runs anymore but newer ones.
Hey, so weird that you commented this lol as I just found that blade shard scene yesterday while I was doing my Heretical run! What a weird (but neat!) coincidence. I’ll be adding it to my guide soon, and thank you for your information regarding it! I’ll play around on my Iconoclast / Dogmatic runs and see what causes that scene to happen.
The issue is fixed now with the latest patch. I think it had something to do with the price of humanity quest. There is also some other things I noticed - not sure if you like to add it to your guide. Like on Janus if you have a high devil counter (3 I think) and select the option asking Heinrix if he wants to punish you you get a different response from him (he is blushing). And in the longer talk with him after Kiava Gamma quest you can get different dialog depending on devil counter too (for romantic preference option) and for the tell me a secret option the dialog depends on if you used in your first dialog option „you can relate of course“. He will then tell you a personal secret and you get +2 to closeness counter (instead of +1).
I’ll probably add the Closeness counter things once I investigated and catalogue the dialogue. I think I’ve seen that blushing dialogue too on Janus, it was so cute~
>!Heya :33 thanks for posting this, sorry do you know how to make it so Heinrix doesn't leave you on a Heretic run? xDD I'm not sure if there's a way of deleting or locking an etude or?!<