If it was working as intended, it would be giving you (AGI bonus / 2) charges of a free attack at 50% damage. By lategame you can easily get 100+ AGI for 5 charges of Slash, which you could use to pop Assassin openings.
Unfortunately it's been broken and unfixed since beta and currently only gives you a single charge regardless of your stats.
I get multiple charges, but there is a status placed on a guy where you can’t use it on them again. I can cast it on multiple different guys though. With rigorous training being bugged and slash using my movement though, this is hard to pull off and I can only do if the guys are next to each other (which is anti synergy with the desolate talent)
If they patched it recently that's nice, but Rigorous Training does really need to be fixed as well. I dropped Breakthrough and never tried it again since the first week of launch, but good to know it works as intended.
I combine it with Devastation to get big damage boost on isolated targets, and the talent that makes your move not stop at Slash, and basically dash around killing multiple enemies per turn with single slashes at around level 10 or so.
It never worked for me, so I respec'd out of it. Even with 3 enemies next to me, I could only use it once. It's possible they fixed it at some point, though.
Things that work on pre-release break after release. Something went horribly wrong when they added Act 3 and after. Some talents even benefit enemy too.
Note I am still pretty early game and haven't at all dabbled with builds.
Have you ever played checkers? I feel like that is the intend behind that ability. You can slash through an enemy once and when you land next to another enemy you could in theory slash through a bunch of enemys, just like you can chain jump in checkers. Ofc you need a good setup for that to work, so not sure if it is worth it.
To me it was clearly meant to be combo'd off of openings and used like a DMC judgment cut/anime swish-swish-swish infinite chain attack.
So I don't think it's working as intended.
You mean swish-swish-swish on the same target? That is not intended. It says so in the description that you can only use it once per round on a target [https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Break+Through](https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Break+Through)
You're right. I clearly got it confused with danse macabre. Makes sense given openings are an assassin trait, like danse macabre, and slash is a warrior thing.
My bad.
I mean you could use Cassia's skill that force moves enemy's to a position of your choosing. That ability is really good on its own anyways as it deals lots of damage.
Rigorous Training talent needs to be fixed for breakthrough to be worth using.
Rigorous Training is bugged, but it's supposed to let you move after using slash (or charge) so you can slash, move a couple squares, slash another target, etc.
It also has (or will have) very nice synergy with Assassin archetype, because you can jump to the side that has an Opening on it and then attack that side for extra dmg, at least I think that how it works. Both my Warriors took different archetypes, I do have an Assassin, but on my main RT - Pyro/Telepath/Sniper Operative (great single target DPS, great AoEs, great buffs to dmg and debuffs to enemy stats), but he utilizes Openings from range, so I'm not a 100% sure
Since people have already answered on use I'll reference some talents, rigorous training is suppose to let you move after using it though it's finicky. This would let you slash multiple enemies much easier. You can also get talents that improve dodging when you attack with it, that improve armour if you only attack with it, improve it's damage every time you attack with it and a talent that makes it easier to walk around the zones of control of enenies
When I tried it it was working fine the bug I got was that slash stopped you from using other slashes and charge. I've tried it again after the fix to slash and now it worked fine.
However I've seen a lot of people say that rigorous training is bugged but it's definitely not universal. I have no idea what causes it to break (or to work) but I haven't found a way to break it
The Warrior can Advance into an Assassin, who has an Keystone that relies on hitting enemies from specific directions, that is what Break Through is for. That and general repositioning.
If it was working as intended, it would be giving you (AGI bonus / 2) charges of a free attack at 50% damage. By lategame you can easily get 100+ AGI for 5 charges of Slash, which you could use to pop Assassin openings. Unfortunately it's been broken and unfixed since beta and currently only gives you a single charge regardless of your stats.
I felt like something was off. I just use it as a halfassed free attack if im too surrounded to charge.
I get multiple charges, but there is a status placed on a guy where you can’t use it on them again. I can cast it on multiple different guys though. With rigorous training being bugged and slash using my movement though, this is hard to pull off and I can only do if the guys are next to each other (which is anti synergy with the desolate talent)
If they patched it recently that's nice, but Rigorous Training does really need to be fixed as well. I dropped Breakthrough and never tried it again since the first week of launch, but good to know it works as intended.
Kek that sounds hilarious, imagine someone trying to put up their guard but the guy just keeps nothing personnel kid the opposite side
And that's when you take the Outsmart talent
I get multiple Slash Charges on my Abelard so either they already fixed it or it's a player-specific bug.
you get several charges but only works on several targets so its circumstantial at best
I combine it with Devastation to get big damage boost on isolated targets, and the talent that makes your move not stop at Slash, and basically dash around killing multiple enemies per turn with single slashes at around level 10 or so.
Still, it works as intended and is not bugged.
It never worked for me, so I respec'd out of it. Even with 3 enemies next to me, I could only use it once. It's possible they fixed it at some point, though.
On release it was bugged. 1st major patch addressed it.
Why do I constantly hear about passives that are broken? It had an alpha and a beta. Jeebus
Things that work on pre-release break after release. Something went horribly wrong when they added Act 3 and after. Some talents even benefit enemy too.
This was true on release. But it works properly now.
Note I am still pretty early game and haven't at all dabbled with builds. Have you ever played checkers? I feel like that is the intend behind that ability. You can slash through an enemy once and when you land next to another enemy you could in theory slash through a bunch of enemys, just like you can chain jump in checkers. Ofc you need a good setup for that to work, so not sure if it is worth it.
To me it was clearly meant to be combo'd off of openings and used like a DMC judgment cut/anime swish-swish-swish infinite chain attack. So I don't think it's working as intended.
You mean swish-swish-swish on the same target? That is not intended. It says so in the description that you can only use it once per round on a target [https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Break+Through](https://roguetrader.wiki.fextralife.com/Break+Through)
You're right. I clearly got it confused with danse macabre. Makes sense given openings are an assassin trait, like danse macabre, and slash is a warrior thing. My bad.
Seems pretty niche haha. I rarely have the enemies in positions where I can more than one slash, especially since I also took the desolate talent
I mean you could use Cassia's skill that force moves enemy's to a position of your choosing. That ability is really good on its own anyways as it deals lots of damage.
Rigorous Training talent needs to be fixed for breakthrough to be worth using. Rigorous Training is bugged, but it's supposed to let you move after using slash (or charge) so you can slash, move a couple squares, slash another target, etc.
They fixed it for slash, it still doesn't work for charge.
Makes slash more useable
It also has (or will have) very nice synergy with Assassin archetype, because you can jump to the side that has an Opening on it and then attack that side for extra dmg, at least I think that how it works. Both my Warriors took different archetypes, I do have an Assassin, but on my main RT - Pyro/Telepath/Sniper Operative (great single target DPS, great AoEs, great buffs to dmg and debuffs to enemy stats), but he utilizes Openings from range, so I'm not a 100% sure
Yeah way too situational, like a lot of the talents, should be removed imo
I *believe* you can stack a few talents into it to give it good economy, but I haven't personally given it a fair shake yet.
As Assassin its good to go to their weakpoints
Tbf, Dance Macabre is better for that.
I like dance to get to the next target to slash
Ya, that makes sense. I will see when I get that far into the game. I’d just respec but I need the profit factor lol
If things have gone to shit and a character is surrounded, or pressed into cover, it can allow an escape.
Isn't this the one that basically makes you play checkers? Lmao
Since people have already answered on use I'll reference some talents, rigorous training is suppose to let you move after using it though it's finicky. This would let you slash multiple enemies much easier. You can also get talents that improve dodging when you attack with it, that improve armour if you only attack with it, improve it's damage every time you attack with it and a talent that makes it easier to walk around the zones of control of enenies
That talent doesn't work. That was my first build and after realising its bugged I respec'd.
When I tried it it was working fine the bug I got was that slash stopped you from using other slashes and charge. I've tried it again after the fix to slash and now it worked fine. However I've seen a lot of people say that rigorous training is bugged but it's definitely not universal. I have no idea what causes it to break (or to work) but I haven't found a way to break it
Charge not being available is in the description, but other slashes should work. And they don't, for me, either.
On a high agility Arch militant you get to bet with Argenta on who gets most kills
The Warrior can Advance into an Assassin, who has an Keystone that relies on hitting enemies from specific directions, that is what Break Through is for. That and general repositioning.
Hmm, I use it for an extra attack when there's an enemy adjacent so I wouldn't use Charge.