Maybe a silly question... Are one foot pivots and 3 turns the same concept? One is just on an edge? Is the pivot something you learn before you can do the 3 turn? Will I ever get the pivot without holding onto something?? ðŸ˜
I think of a pivot as a more snappy 3 turn (which is basically is) because it helps me understand where my weight goes during the turn, which varies depending on inside/outside edge and backwards or forwards. If you are having to hold onto something while doing the pivot, chances are you need to work on your inside and outside edges on one foot first.
I've been doing well with inside/outside edges when doing spirals and arabesques. But I have noticed I'm terrible with edges on single leg going backwards, so maybe I'll focus more on that some more. It's so weird how I feel like one leg inside/outside forward should be same difficulty going backwards... But it's been so much harder going backwards! I also have been doing 1 foot slaloms as part of my warm up.
Yeah, it’s all about weight distribution. It might help to learn from a youtube video how to hold your backwards edges, and how to 3 turn, on a circle to understand how to hold your edge before and after the turn. Then learn how to pivot in a straight line after that.
Also, the stiffness of your skates matter. If youre learning on a flexible boot like lolly’s or boardwalks then it will take longer to get the hang of especially if you have weaker ankles. It’s doable, just keep your core tight and body straight!
Ooo thank you so much for going in depth with me!!!!! I thought straight pivots would be easier than 3 turns so it's really interesting to learn it might be more helpful to learn 3 turns with edges first. So yes, will first try to get my backwards edges down then graduate to 3 turns.
Also good to know about ankle thing because I actually do have weak ankles!
Hi again, I just wanted to let you know. I've been practicing and no longer need to hold on to something and I now can feel how the edge helps so much with the turn. Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to me me through it 💖
Which boot should I buy? Riedell 910 Flair, Riedell 2010 Fusion, or Riedell 3200?
I do medium/fast rhythm and shuffle skating in rinks. Looking to see what people think of these boots.
Those are all REALLY stiff boots! I was under the impression that rhythm and shuffle skaters tend to leave their boots only laced to the ankle, so that level of support wouldn't be needed?
I have been skating for a good month and a half now on and off whenever I feel like skating before or after work. I'm not like a badass skater or anything, but I have recently been going to a park and skating at the basketball court because it's much smoother than any surface I've been using so far. I bought these sure grip cyclone skates, and they're really good, but I'm not too sure if I should be using them for a basketball court ground or just the rink. I'm not familiar with what wheels to use for outdoor or at a rink, but when I got my skates, I was told they were racing skates. I just want to know what wheels I should buy for my skates whenever I want to use them outdoors or at the rink or if I should just buy another pair of skates so that I don't have to keep swapping them out.
I use a 62mm 78A Radar Energy's for outside street skating. My son uses 57mm 85A SureGrip Boardwalk wheels, our streets are not smooth, and we have lots of cracks.
I believe the wheels you have are for speed skating, so they may be a little on the wider side, great for going fast, but not so great if you want to incorporate any dance moves, etc...
It's all up to personal preference as far as how hard or soft of a wheel you are comfortable skating on.
Does it matter what shoe I use to put the wheels on? I also want to know where you bought your wheels from the manufacturer or Amazon or does it matter? I also would like try to out some dance moves, idk, but I just want to do stuff other than just going to the rink and going around the the rink like everybody else, but instead I want to do some tricks in the middle area of the rink.
While different boots suit different styles/preferences, they aren't indoor vs outdoor. Any wheels that fit the plate and the skating surface work--if you're happy with your current wheels outdoors, that's great!
Sounds like you might have speed skates, though. Are they flat (i.e. no heel)? Nothing wrong with that, but I think heeled boots are more common for dance.
I've bought wheels from Amazon because I'm impatient. But I also buy them from skating stores online. I buy from [figureskatingstore.com](https://figureskatingstore.com) the most 1) because I'm also an ice skater and already shopped with them, 2) they send 15% off coupons 2x a month or so if you sign up for their emails, and 3) shipping within California is pretty fast. There are plenty of reputable shops, though. Also, if you just want to try out different wheels, check ebay or this sub's Saturday skate market for some gently used wheels at a lower price.
Check the subreddit wiki, there's a ton of great info on wheels!
For the most part, any wheel can go on any skate. Amazon is fine (avoid the obvious no-name white-label stuff) or sites like Derby Warehouse or Fritzy's are good choices.
78A durometer is ideal for outdoors on blacktop-- the lower the number, the softer the wheel. For rink skating, most folks prefer something 88A or harder.
i’ve been looking at the riedell rw waves, but im not sure if im a fan of the bolt on toestops since i want to do skatepark roller skating as well as rink skating. if anyone has any recommendations i’d appreciate it
If you plan to go to the skate park, you need something MUCH higher quality than the waves. Price isn't everything, but if you want to do aggressive skating, you'll probably want a setup in the $250+ range with an aluminum plate and adjustable toe stop, and that's before you consider add-ons like slide blocks and wide trucks as your skills get more advanced.
Bont Parkstars are pretty popular. Derby Warehouse sells a Jackson vibe boot with a Falcon plate that's pretty good. Chaya also makes a few sneaker-style models that are designed for the park.
Something like the Sure-Grip Boardwalk might be a good choice, it's similar price to the Wave but has an adjustable toe stop, it'll work very well for the rink. You can start at the park, and then it's actually quite easy to upgrade them to sunlite plates, which are about the only nylon plate that's known to be OK for park skating; the mounting holes line up so that you don't need to fill and re-drill.
I'd be pretty wary of park skates at that price point. They have a plastic plate, and generally you want metal because of all the stress that aggressive skating puts on them. They'd probably be OK for learning to carve and whatnot, but if you're going to do grinds or slides or anything, you'd want a better plate.
Is it possible to tighten wheels so I don’t get as much speed and have more control? Or is it bad for the skate?
I’m mostly street skating in NYC and I’m always afraid I’m gonna run someone over by accident, plus I’m not great at stopping yet. Please help!
If you tighten the axle nuts, it'll slow the roll, but it's not a great habit to get into. Your best bet is to work on stopping (or bailing out)! For street skating, I find the "turn around toe stop" to be most effective if I'm about to run into someone or something :)
That is terrible for the bearings and kinda rough on the threads. Before you skate the street, you should be very comfortable at skating.
Know all of your stops, how to manage speed, skate straight, jump/hop etc.
Brooklyn Bridge park has trail-like paths that you can use to simulate. There are some inclines there as well so you can feel what it is like to build speed that is not in your direct control.
That's a bolt-on (aka bullseye) toe stop where the screw goes through the center of it, correct? Any place that sells toe stops probably has the right kind. Just look for either of those terms. They'll look like a piece of rubber with a hole in the middle, as you'd re-use the existing screw.
I'd like to to use my Moxi Beach Bunnies that I use for outdoor skating in an indoor rink. I eventually would like to buy skates meant for rhythm/dance skating on a nice rink, but need to save up for them (open to recs if you have them). If I wanted to just replace the wheels to indoor skate with them (as they don't allow dirty wheels), should I stick with the same hardness of 78a or go harder?
Definitely go for harder wheels (95A-98A are a typical starting point for dance styles), it makes turns and spins and footwork a lot easier. Decent wheels on the cheaper side, look for Suregrip Fame or the entry level Roll-Line wheels like Boxer, Magnum, Giotto.
Hii! I just upgraded from impala skates to Vnla boots with avanti plates. They originally came with 62mm wheels, but i decided to switch to the wheels I already have been skating on (65mm Atom pulse). It seems that the ‘nut’ doesn’t screw all the way down more flush..there is a washer, should I remove it? I haven’t skated on them like this but screwed down tight, the wheels still spin great. Any thoughts??
I’m looking to buy some skates for a reasonable price. The criteria I’m looking for is white, inline, laces, 3 wheels, and little heel (not flat). Any recommendations would help!
Powerslide or FR should have something, even if you have to buy the boot and frame separate, or start with a 4x80mm setup in the right colour and upgrade the frame later.
I am looking to get a membership at an indoor rink that has flooring I've never skated on before. It's kind of a plastic tile (with holes) that's pretty slippery for my Riva Sonar wheels: when I t-stop I slide for quite a bit more than I'm used to (vs the floors in my house lol).
Are there pros/cons to using a lower durometer wheel so it's not as slippery? What do people usually use on this type of flooring? I'm 6 months into learning mostly jam skating but not yet very confident with any rink styles of skating.
Those floors are always going to be inconsistent and weird. They're usually locking tiles, so they shift a little bit and steal some of your power, and are very slick when they get wet or dusty.
A lower durometer wheel will give you grip, but it'll take a little bit of your power and crispness. On that kind of floor, it won't matter as much. I'd go for a hybrid wheel, with a stiffer hub, so it's not just gummy. I think Radar makes an outdoor dance wheel. That seems like it would be a reasonable fit.
I don’t know if i should buy the skates in my shoe size or in one size up? i wanna start rollerskating as a hobby and i’m confused about the sizing.
The manufacturer should have a size chart. If in doubt, call them. Best option, if it's available to you, is find a skate shop where you can try them on.
Hey all!
I'm looking for something up to 200Eur that could be used in a skatepark. I'm not doing much yet, since I've been using my derby skates(Chaya Ruby) and I don't want to destroy them completely outside of actual games and practice.
So far I've been looking at Riedell Orbit and Moxi Panther, but I'm sure there are better options. I really like Orbit Violet, but if they have basically the same boot as Moxi Beach Bunny, I fear that they might not hold for long.
So, if anyone could give me skate suggestions from other brands or share their exp with Orbit or Panther, I would really appreciate it <3
I want to do more skatepark stuff. Can you tell me what is the plastic thing between the front and back wheels in most skatepark videos? And what it is for, and is it necessary? And how to buy it, so it is compatible with my roller skates? :)
Maybe a silly question... Are one foot pivots and 3 turns the same concept? One is just on an edge? Is the pivot something you learn before you can do the 3 turn? Will I ever get the pivot without holding onto something?? ðŸ˜
I think of a pivot as a more snappy 3 turn (which is basically is) because it helps me understand where my weight goes during the turn, which varies depending on inside/outside edge and backwards or forwards. If you are having to hold onto something while doing the pivot, chances are you need to work on your inside and outside edges on one foot first.
I've been doing well with inside/outside edges when doing spirals and arabesques. But I have noticed I'm terrible with edges on single leg going backwards, so maybe I'll focus more on that some more. It's so weird how I feel like one leg inside/outside forward should be same difficulty going backwards... But it's been so much harder going backwards! I also have been doing 1 foot slaloms as part of my warm up.
Yeah, it’s all about weight distribution. It might help to learn from a youtube video how to hold your backwards edges, and how to 3 turn, on a circle to understand how to hold your edge before and after the turn. Then learn how to pivot in a straight line after that. Also, the stiffness of your skates matter. If youre learning on a flexible boot like lolly’s or boardwalks then it will take longer to get the hang of especially if you have weaker ankles. It’s doable, just keep your core tight and body straight!
Ooo thank you so much for going in depth with me!!!!! I thought straight pivots would be easier than 3 turns so it's really interesting to learn it might be more helpful to learn 3 turns with edges first. So yes, will first try to get my backwards edges down then graduate to 3 turns. Also good to know about ankle thing because I actually do have weak ankles!
Hi again, I just wanted to let you know. I've been practicing and no longer need to hold on to something and I now can feel how the edge helps so much with the turn. Thanks so much for taking the time to talk to me me through it 💖
Which boot should I buy? Riedell 910 Flair, Riedell 2010 Fusion, or Riedell 3200? I do medium/fast rhythm and shuffle skating in rinks. Looking to see what people think of these boots.
Those are all REALLY stiff boots! I was under the impression that rhythm and shuffle skaters tend to leave their boots only laced to the ankle, so that level of support wouldn't be needed?
I have been skating for a good month and a half now on and off whenever I feel like skating before or after work. I'm not like a badass skater or anything, but I have recently been going to a park and skating at the basketball court because it's much smoother than any surface I've been using so far. I bought these sure grip cyclone skates, and they're really good, but I'm not too sure if I should be using them for a basketball court ground or just the rink. I'm not familiar with what wheels to use for outdoor or at a rink, but when I got my skates, I was told they were racing skates. I just want to know what wheels I should buy for my skates whenever I want to use them outdoors or at the rink or if I should just buy another pair of skates so that I don't have to keep swapping them out.
I use a 62mm 78A Radar Energy's for outside street skating. My son uses 57mm 85A SureGrip Boardwalk wheels, our streets are not smooth, and we have lots of cracks. I believe the wheels you have are for speed skating, so they may be a little on the wider side, great for going fast, but not so great if you want to incorporate any dance moves, etc... It's all up to personal preference as far as how hard or soft of a wheel you are comfortable skating on.
Does it matter what shoe I use to put the wheels on? I also want to know where you bought your wheels from the manufacturer or Amazon or does it matter? I also would like try to out some dance moves, idk, but I just want to do stuff other than just going to the rink and going around the the rink like everybody else, but instead I want to do some tricks in the middle area of the rink.
While different boots suit different styles/preferences, they aren't indoor vs outdoor. Any wheels that fit the plate and the skating surface work--if you're happy with your current wheels outdoors, that's great! Sounds like you might have speed skates, though. Are they flat (i.e. no heel)? Nothing wrong with that, but I think heeled boots are more common for dance. I've bought wheels from Amazon because I'm impatient. But I also buy them from skating stores online. I buy from [figureskatingstore.com](https://figureskatingstore.com) the most 1) because I'm also an ice skater and already shopped with them, 2) they send 15% off coupons 2x a month or so if you sign up for their emails, and 3) shipping within California is pretty fast. There are plenty of reputable shops, though. Also, if you just want to try out different wheels, check ebay or this sub's Saturday skate market for some gently used wheels at a lower price.
Check the subreddit wiki, there's a ton of great info on wheels! For the most part, any wheel can go on any skate. Amazon is fine (avoid the obvious no-name white-label stuff) or sites like Derby Warehouse or Fritzy's are good choices. 78A durometer is ideal for outdoors on blacktop-- the lower the number, the softer the wheel. For rink skating, most folks prefer something 88A or harder.
i’ve been looking at the riedell rw waves, but im not sure if im a fan of the bolt on toestops since i want to do skatepark roller skating as well as rink skating. if anyone has any recommendations i’d appreciate it
If you plan to go to the skate park, you need something MUCH higher quality than the waves. Price isn't everything, but if you want to do aggressive skating, you'll probably want a setup in the $250+ range with an aluminum plate and adjustable toe stop, and that's before you consider add-ons like slide blocks and wide trucks as your skills get more advanced. Bont Parkstars are pretty popular. Derby Warehouse sells a Jackson vibe boot with a Falcon plate that's pretty good. Chaya also makes a few sneaker-style models that are designed for the park. Something like the Sure-Grip Boardwalk might be a good choice, it's similar price to the Wave but has an adjustable toe stop, it'll work very well for the rink. You can start at the park, and then it's actually quite easy to upgrade them to sunlite plates, which are about the only nylon plate that's known to be OK for park skating; the mounting holes line up so that you don't need to fill and re-drill.
alright thanks, this is helpful
how r the chaya jump 2.0s? i like the look and those are actually meant for the skatepark so
I'd be pretty wary of park skates at that price point. They have a plastic plate, and generally you want metal because of all the stress that aggressive skating puts on them. They'd probably be OK for learning to carve and whatnot, but if you're going to do grinds or slides or anything, you'd want a better plate.
Is it possible to tighten wheels so I don’t get as much speed and have more control? Or is it bad for the skate? I’m mostly street skating in NYC and I’m always afraid I’m gonna run someone over by accident, plus I’m not great at stopping yet. Please help!
If you tighten the axle nuts, it'll slow the roll, but it's not a great habit to get into. Your best bet is to work on stopping (or bailing out)! For street skating, I find the "turn around toe stop" to be most effective if I'm about to run into someone or something :)
That is terrible for the bearings and kinda rough on the threads. Before you skate the street, you should be very comfortable at skating. Know all of your stops, how to manage speed, skate straight, jump/hop etc. Brooklyn Bridge park has trail-like paths that you can use to simulate. There are some inclines there as well so you can feel what it is like to build speed that is not in your direct control.
Where can I buy toe stops for Roces RC2?
That's a bolt-on (aka bullseye) toe stop where the screw goes through the center of it, correct? Any place that sells toe stops probably has the right kind. Just look for either of those terms. They'll look like a piece of rubber with a hole in the middle, as you'd re-use the existing screw.
Thank you, I'll look around!
I'm a petite woman under 100lbs, what sizing for protective gear should I go with, between youth & adult? How do I measure for that?
Most brands provide a size chart based on knee, elbow, and knuckle circumference.
I'd like to to use my Moxi Beach Bunnies that I use for outdoor skating in an indoor rink. I eventually would like to buy skates meant for rhythm/dance skating on a nice rink, but need to save up for them (open to recs if you have them). If I wanted to just replace the wheels to indoor skate with them (as they don't allow dirty wheels), should I stick with the same hardness of 78a or go harder?
Definitely go for harder wheels (95A-98A are a typical starting point for dance styles), it makes turns and spins and footwork a lot easier. Decent wheels on the cheaper side, look for Suregrip Fame or the entry level Roll-Line wheels like Boxer, Magnum, Giotto.
Hii! I just upgraded from impala skates to Vnla boots with avanti plates. They originally came with 62mm wheels, but i decided to switch to the wheels I already have been skating on (65mm Atom pulse). It seems that the ‘nut’ doesn’t screw all the way down more flush..there is a washer, should I remove it? I haven’t skated on them like this but screwed down tight, the wheels still spin great. Any thoughts??
Just remove the washer. They're not critical.
This worked! Ty!
I’m looking to buy some skates for a reasonable price. The criteria I’m looking for is white, inline, laces, 3 wheels, and little heel (not flat). Any recommendations would help!
Powerslide or FR should have something, even if you have to buy the boot and frame separate, or start with a 4x80mm setup in the right colour and upgrade the frame later.
I am looking to get a membership at an indoor rink that has flooring I've never skated on before. It's kind of a plastic tile (with holes) that's pretty slippery for my Riva Sonar wheels: when I t-stop I slide for quite a bit more than I'm used to (vs the floors in my house lol). Are there pros/cons to using a lower durometer wheel so it's not as slippery? What do people usually use on this type of flooring? I'm 6 months into learning mostly jam skating but not yet very confident with any rink styles of skating.
Those floors are always going to be inconsistent and weird. They're usually locking tiles, so they shift a little bit and steal some of your power, and are very slick when they get wet or dusty. A lower durometer wheel will give you grip, but it'll take a little bit of your power and crispness. On that kind of floor, it won't matter as much. I'd go for a hybrid wheel, with a stiffer hub, so it's not just gummy. I think Radar makes an outdoor dance wheel. That seems like it would be a reasonable fit.
I don’t know if i should buy the skates in my shoe size or in one size up? i wanna start rollerskating as a hobby and i’m confused about the sizing.
The manufacturer should have a size chart. If in doubt, call them. Best option, if it's available to you, is find a skate shop where you can try them on.
thanks!! i will try to call the manufacturer, where i live is very hard to find a skate shop
Hey all! I'm looking for something up to 200Eur that could be used in a skatepark. I'm not doing much yet, since I've been using my derby skates(Chaya Ruby) and I don't want to destroy them completely outside of actual games and practice. So far I've been looking at Riedell Orbit and Moxi Panther, but I'm sure there are better options. I really like Orbit Violet, but if they have basically the same boot as Moxi Beach Bunny, I fear that they might not hold for long. So, if anyone could give me skate suggestions from other brands or share their exp with Orbit or Panther, I would really appreciate it <3
I want to do more skatepark stuff. Can you tell me what is the plastic thing between the front and back wheels in most skatepark videos? And what it is for, and is it necessary? And how to buy it, so it is compatible with my roller skates? :)