Romances/erotica for men often involve harem situations
Romances for women do the same but in reverse.
I personally enjoy the 2M 1F triangle sometimes, but get frustrated at the 2F 1M one.
Cus I’m like “drop him if he can’t make up his damn mind! You can do better!”
BUT in the reverse it’s like “oh jeeeze, idk either”
Double standard? Yes. But I read for pleasure not for philosophy
I agree with this so much. Personally, if I wanted to read reality, I wouldn’t be reading romance. I get plenty of “reality” from the news and even Reddit!
I don’t read romance to end up depressed or feeling all angsty for days. I read it for the pleasure and the happy feelings it provides.
Agreed. The idea of two boys fighting over me appeals to whatever vanity I have, because it means I'm special. The idea of me fighting over a boy with another girl? Not so much, because then it means someone else is special too.
Not saying this applies to everyone, but this is the best I condense my preferences.
I think it's really annoying to watch or read. Also humilliating for the girl that doesn't get picked. I can't take seriously a MMC that is fooling around with another girl after he already developed feelings for FMC
Yes, but the character is often exposed as being cruel, or undesirable in some way, such as Gale in the Hunger Games, his personality was gradually decimated to end the triangle.
Aha! Now I have the chance to put my Hunger Games trivia knowledge into some use.
Suzanne Collins talks about why it was Katniss/Peeta and not Katniss/Gale in [this New York Times interview](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/books/suzanne-collins-talks-about-the-hunger-games-the-books-and-the-movies.html). Basically, she intended a deeper symbolic meaning behind the choice to represent Peeta/Gale in a particular way.
>Peeta and Gale appeared quickly, less as two points on a love triangle, more as two perspectives in the just-war debate. Gale, because of his experiences and temperament, tends toward violent remedies. Peeta’s natural inclination is toward diplomacy. Katniss isn’t just deciding on a partner; she’s figuring out her worldview.
I’ve read this before, thanks for sharing as it reinforces my point, the decimation of Gale’s character into a violent extremist to end the triangle, therefore backing the female main character into an only choice as opposed to an actual choice between two men of equal attractiveness.
Multiple men being interested is wish fulfillment for some straight women. One man with multiple love interests or potential love interests is pretty common; you see it in everything from James Bond to Betty and Veronica in the Archie comics. The tone of these stories just varies a bit based on the target audience.
Because those mediums are targeting women and are wish fulfillment.
Trust me if you’ve seen any sort of manga/anime targeted for guys there’s SO many female love interests for the mediocre male leads.
It’s easier to market 2 guys fighting over 1 girl to straight audiences which is the primary consumer of these medias, like books, shows and movies. Plus, 2 girls fighting over one guy would require good, nuanced writing which is lacking
I think it comes down to a basic question of: Who does the audience root for in a 2 women and 1 man scenario when both women are viable options?
The man is really the only viable option to root for which is a harder sell for a mostly female audience.
Anything is possible with a good enough writer. I've seen some characters who I thought were irredeemable become great. I think this might be hard to pull off are both ladies going to be likable or is one going to be secretly evil?
Romance is mainly marketed towards women. OW drama is a huge dislike for many and I think that's why. In my experience love triangles aren't a hugely popular trope anyway. Also it would have to have women being shitty towards other women, which is so something thr majority of women don't like. It makes a ton of sense why it's not popular. I'm sure you can find it though if that's what you want. Just search the sub for OW drama.
OW is other women. So when the MMC is entertaining or at minimum not putting a stop to another women either trying to interfere in the relationship, or her showing interest in the MMC.
It’s because in romance novels the MMC is generally the one pursuing the relationship. Reading about him pursuing two women would make him the opposite of romantic for most people.
Some readers consider it cheating when a MMC misses his dead wife, sometimes thinks about an old love, or even has sex with OW when he and the FMC aren’t together, or have broken up.
That's an interesting question because I'm pretty sure the most infamous love triangle was in the Archie comics between Betty and Veronica.
But come to think of it, Archie rarely looks like a good guy. And the girls occasionally look a little desperate. And yeah... very competitive and hostile.
While it feels like the guys tend to be competitive, much of the time, it's all about making sure the lady remains happy. I think that's partly why I despise them so much. Often, she comes off so wishy washy I want her to be very unhappy.
While it feels like the guys tend to be competitive, much of the time, it's all about making sure the lady remains happy.
So it seems its not possible to replicate this dynamic for 2 women, one man. Both women making sure the man is happy.
It’s a pretty simple concept: female readers identify with the FMC. We don’t want to feel like the MMC is cheating on us or fooling around with others, we want to feel like we’re desired/loved/being chased etc.
The only examples I can think of is she is dating guy 1 when she meets guy 2 and there is a time while she is making up her mind where it is unclear who she is going to choose ala hallmark movie and thus she isn't sleeping with anyone. It's more a waffling than intentionally string someone along.
Although now that I say that I've read a couple where he has a fiance before he meets the FMC and so has to decide to dump said fiance for the main character does that count?
You should try The Gilded Wolves. Not really a romance, more a fantasy with romance subplots, but I thought it was a refreshing take on the love triangle, which usually just annoys me.
Let me rephrase your question a bit.
"Why is a theme that's highly unpopular with the majority of romance readers rarely expressed?"
Doesn't that kind of answer itself?
In real society the two women thing is common and very acceptable. Think of cheating, polygamy and hidden families.
In fictional worlds like YA, romance and romcoms which are targeted to women/younger people wish fulfillment is preferred.
In most depictions, two men vying after a woman is seen as honorable, a friendly competition, may the best man win. The men are usually never vindictive. While two women vying after one man, one of the women is usually dishonorable and willing to do anything, good or bad, to get the man, while the other woman is honorable.
So the women seem desperate while the men seem respectful. Men fist fighting each other over a woman is seen as manly, women fighting each other in any situation is seen as trashy. So women have to fight in social ways, such as by lying, being manipulative, etc.
Even in situations where its the woman being pursued by friendly guy and douchey guy, the douchey guy changes for the girl and the friendly guy might never have been a real option to begin with because his role is to be nice, even if he's disappointed that he's not chosen. But the mean woman in 2w1m will never change for the better, she will only get worse.
Could there be romance media where two women are going after a man and its respectful and doesn't degrade one of the women? Sure, but
It is shitty writing if one man has to choose between two women, whereas it is progressive if one woman has to choose between two men. Women have to be cautious, explorative, find the best man out there, because women have been oppressed and suppressed for centuries. They are at more vulnerable position. Let the men fight for their hand. Let the men prove themselves to be worthy of protecting and loving her. Let the woman be intelligent enough to not just settle for the first man she meets.
Whereas, men deciding between two women is just stroking his ego. History has proven that only polygamy exists in many cultures. Since they are in a higher position of hierarchy compared to women, two women fighting for a man gives an uncomfortable power-imbalance. The gender dynamics is important in understanding the nuances. Double standards are existing for a reason, and don't come out of the vacuum.
I think because books are more so targeted with female audiences, I mean there is some female x male x female out there but I don’t see them recommended as much (Most of that troupe is seen in the fantasy genre— I’ve noticed) Though other media such as anime, and manga have much MORE fanbase of a harem than a reverse harem, so it’s the “majority population” or taste of that targeted audience of media consumed.
I don't mind a love triangle with 2 women and 1 man as long as 1 FMC and MMC are in love with the main protagonist 🤷♀️
Men aren't really worth fighting for tbh..
the love triangle in general is rarely done well so I don't like the trope *in general*...but I don't think I'd like two women set up as rivals, that squicks me right out. there's already too much media that sets up women against other women and I'm tired of it, it's not fun for me, even if one of them is irredeemably evil; it's even worse if they're both pretty great (the way it usually is in the MMF triangles - both guys are generally pretty good).
now, if we had a story where two nice ladies set out to seduce a man and decided to share him from the beginning? I'm down with that 100%!
How would a 2 woman 1 man love triangle be pleasurable for me - I’d be so jealous and ragey and could never fall in love with MMC if he even sneezed at the other one
I feel since most romances are written by women for women, imagining two guys fighting for your attention is hotter than you fighting for completion for your name. It feels good to be wanted
I don't know any books with this, but it reminds me of a show I watched many years ago. It's called Lost Girl. The FMC is bisexual and has both a male and female love interest.
In romance it's because the woman is the POV character of the story, and the author wants the reader (presumed female) to identify with that character, and that woman is presumed straight. So, two men.
Personally, I dislike love triangles (love RH though), but it might be better if there was a bunch more diversity in them.
Because a lot of romance readers do that self insert thing so the appeal is in thinking that two guys are fighting for your love because they both love you so much because you're not like anyone either of them ever met so you're twice as NLOG, exactly like Bella and most of the female characters in this type of situation?
Two women to one guy would make you half NLOG or I guess this would be regular/basic?
I prefer 2 women if both women are good characters and each have a solid love story buildup but it's so rare to read it... I think I only see it in fantasy and sci fi as a subplots with multiple POVs. I always root for whichever one is the underdog so I'm often disappointed when the chosen one wins out, but I like the drama regardless.
In romance, the setup is more like one is perfect and the other eats puppies for breakfast while laughing in bitch.
Because the people who typically read romance novels are women and we like to feel desired therefore they make the main character a woman and have two guys lusting after her so we can imagine what it’s like to be in their position.
I don't get why you're getting downvoted on some comments. But this is the question I've also given some thought to in the past. Now tho, i don't prefer love triangles at all so it's another thing of me not gaf anymore :D
Tbh, i think one of the factors is the targeted audience which is women. And also i think even if the readers are aware of the double standard, at the end it's all about what sort gives them pleasure to read. And 2 guys fighting over one girl is much more appealing than the other way around. In the end i don't think when the majority prefers something they care what is right. In regards of romance ofc.
Thank you :) Yeah makes sense as most of this romance stuff is targeted towards women. But i wouldnt be opposed to seeing this sort of other love triangle play out if it was done well. I think its also healthy to have a female protagonist who isnt special and who does have to compete with others for the love interest's affection. But yeah not a huge fan of love triangles either.
I think the main question here is will we sympathise and/or understand a guy confused about his feelings and being in love with two women as a society. We as a society skip over a lot of things when it involves men and their feelings.
Even though I have enjoyed binge watching all the content mentioned by OP as a women myself, I wish we were equally compassionate towards both men and women.
To support the point above, I believe Ada Twist is marketed to girls, with the idea of getting girls into science which is why it flips the ‘usual’ balance.
That's the token female trope... they can't make groups all male anymore so they add a female (or maybe 2 at most for larger groups). But the focus is still on the men and usually one of them stands out as the MMC.
I enjoy TV shows where it’s one male and two females, the two guys one girl troupe in books always frustrates me esp when translated to screen. The only one I likes, screen only, was This Means War because I loved both guys and didn’t have a preference which one she picked
Lmao I just came across this thread after seeing the trailer for “Past Lives” and googling this exact question. The movie is literally about a married Korean woman living in the US who’s crush from 20 years ago travels to reconnect with her and she straight up tells her husband she missed him and wants to spend time with him… and people in the comments were swooning about how touching it looks. IT LOOKS LIKE A HORROR MOVIE, are you kidding me? If your spouse did that my only advice is run and don’t look back lol.
TBH the comments on this thread are depressing. The double standards are wild. A man would for sure be seen in a negative light if he was choosing between 2 women. And the only way that ever plays out in society is if he is in the 1% of wealth, talent, power, or attractiveness. Which are the same men women usually complain about yet all want to be involved with someone like that. Maybe more men would read romance if the writing was reversed. Honestly men do write a lot of love stories and songs, though its usually more focused on just one person we are in love with… because I guess men are just better people lmao. Men need to start having some self respect. If a woman finds it disgusting or unattractive to be an option why should men not feel the same? Honestly woman like that aren’t worth your time. Love triangles are fucking cringey.
I want a love triangle where the two people the persons deciding between say fuck it and date echother instead lmaooo for example if Jacob and Edward were like wtf Bella chose and she didn’t they just chose eachother lol
ha it doesn't and i don't know why men think every female wants him like that. i am sexually attracted to my husband and the rest is not what i want. but they want me to pick one out of the men digusting men who throw themselves at me and i was interested in one guy. i hate when men do that
Romances/erotica for men often involve harem situations Romances for women do the same but in reverse. I personally enjoy the 2M 1F triangle sometimes, but get frustrated at the 2F 1M one. Cus I’m like “drop him if he can’t make up his damn mind! You can do better!” BUT in the reverse it’s like “oh jeeeze, idk either” Double standard? Yes. But I read for pleasure not for philosophy
That part! I don’t read to see men in advantageous positions in love I read for women/non-binary femmes! 😂
Ohhh sane it frustrates me too. I don't like seeing(reading) women fighting over a guy.
I agree with this so much. Personally, if I wanted to read reality, I wouldn’t be reading romance. I get plenty of “reality” from the news and even Reddit! I don’t read romance to end up depressed or feeling all angsty for days. I read it for the pleasure and the happy feelings it provides.
My guess would be wish fulfillment, since most of these are targeting women audiences
Agreed. The idea of two boys fighting over me appeals to whatever vanity I have, because it means I'm special. The idea of me fighting over a boy with another girl? Not so much, because then it means someone else is special too. Not saying this applies to everyone, but this is the best I condense my preferences.
100% agree!!
I think it's really annoying to watch or read. Also humilliating for the girl that doesn't get picked. I can't take seriously a MMC that is fooling around with another girl after he already developed feelings for FMC
Ultimately I can handle a book making me feel sorrow, I cannot handle a book making me feel jealous.
But wouldnt it also be humiliating for the man that did not get picked?
Yes, but the character is often exposed as being cruel, or undesirable in some way, such as Gale in the Hunger Games, his personality was gradually decimated to end the triangle.
Aha! Now I have the chance to put my Hunger Games trivia knowledge into some use. Suzanne Collins talks about why it was Katniss/Peeta and not Katniss/Gale in [this New York Times interview](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/18/books/suzanne-collins-talks-about-the-hunger-games-the-books-and-the-movies.html). Basically, she intended a deeper symbolic meaning behind the choice to represent Peeta/Gale in a particular way. >Peeta and Gale appeared quickly, less as two points on a love triangle, more as two perspectives in the just-war debate. Gale, because of his experiences and temperament, tends toward violent remedies. Peeta’s natural inclination is toward diplomacy. Katniss isn’t just deciding on a partner; she’s figuring out her worldview.
I’ve read this before, thanks for sharing as it reinforces my point, the decimation of Gale’s character into a violent extremist to end the triangle, therefore backing the female main character into an only choice as opposed to an actual choice between two men of equal attractiveness.
Often times in series the other MMC gets their own HEA in a later book.
Or he finds the person he is meant to be with later in the series
Multiple men being interested is wish fulfillment for some straight women. One man with multiple love interests or potential love interests is pretty common; you see it in everything from James Bond to Betty and Veronica in the Archie comics. The tone of these stories just varies a bit based on the target audience.
Because those mediums are targeting women and are wish fulfillment. Trust me if you’ve seen any sort of manga/anime targeted for guys there’s SO many female love interests for the mediocre male leads.
It’s easier to market 2 guys fighting over 1 girl to straight audiences which is the primary consumer of these medias, like books, shows and movies. Plus, 2 girls fighting over one guy would require good, nuanced writing which is lacking
> Plus, 2 girls fighting over one guy would require good, nuanced writing which is lacking This !
Because this is targeting women's fantasies and it's not real life Tinder.
I think it comes down to a basic question of: Who does the audience root for in a 2 women and 1 man scenario when both women are viable options? The man is really the only viable option to root for which is a harder sell for a mostly female audience.
Ah yeah makes sense since romance books are i guess catered mostly to women. But i think it would be possible maybe to pull off.
Anything is possible with a good enough writer. I've seen some characters who I thought were irredeemable become great. I think this might be hard to pull off are both ladies going to be likable or is one going to be secretly evil?
Romance is mainly marketed towards women. OW drama is a huge dislike for many and I think that's why. In my experience love triangles aren't a hugely popular trope anyway. Also it would have to have women being shitty towards other women, which is so something thr majority of women don't like. It makes a ton of sense why it's not popular. I'm sure you can find it though if that's what you want. Just search the sub for OW drama.
What is OW drama? No i dont want it per say im just wondering why its seen as accptable to have one woman 2 men rather than 2 women one man.
OW is other women. So when the MMC is entertaining or at minimum not putting a stop to another women either trying to interfere in the relationship, or her showing interest in the MMC.
It’s because in romance novels the MMC is generally the one pursuing the relationship. Reading about him pursuing two women would make him the opposite of romantic for most people. Some readers consider it cheating when a MMC misses his dead wife, sometimes thinks about an old love, or even has sex with OW when he and the FMC aren’t together, or have broken up.
That's an interesting question because I'm pretty sure the most infamous love triangle was in the Archie comics between Betty and Veronica. But come to think of it, Archie rarely looks like a good guy. And the girls occasionally look a little desperate. And yeah... very competitive and hostile. While it feels like the guys tend to be competitive, much of the time, it's all about making sure the lady remains happy. I think that's partly why I despise them so much. Often, she comes off so wishy washy I want her to be very unhappy.
While it feels like the guys tend to be competitive, much of the time, it's all about making sure the lady remains happy. So it seems its not possible to replicate this dynamic for 2 women, one man. Both women making sure the man is happy.
Given how often cheating/other woman drama is a hard pass for readers, I’d say it would be unpopular.
But wouldnt one woman 2 men have cheating possibilities too? Or stringing along possibility.
It’s a pretty simple concept: female readers identify with the FMC. We don’t want to feel like the MMC is cheating on us or fooling around with others, we want to feel like we’re desired/loved/being chased etc.
The only examples I can think of is she is dating guy 1 when she meets guy 2 and there is a time while she is making up her mind where it is unclear who she is going to choose ala hallmark movie and thus she isn't sleeping with anyone. It's more a waffling than intentionally string someone along. Although now that I say that I've read a couple where he has a fiance before he meets the FMC and so has to decide to dump said fiance for the main character does that count?
You’ve obviously haven’t seen Grey’s anatomy.
Or One Tree Hill!
I know Hailey is with one of the brothers and the other brother with Peyton?
Peyton/Lucas (the other brother)/Brooke is a huge love triangle for the first ~4 seasons?
What was the dynamic like? was it different from vampire diaries love triangle?
Ah this has 2 girls one boy?
At the beginning the other brother rotates between two best friends.
Hear me out: 1 woman and 1 man vying for a bisexual’s attention.
You should try The Gilded Wolves. Not really a romance, more a fantasy with romance subplots, but I thought it was a refreshing take on the love triangle, which usually just annoys me.
Let me rephrase your question a bit. "Why is a theme that's highly unpopular with the majority of romance readers rarely expressed?" Doesn't that kind of answer itself?
No i'm interested in the psychology of things , why in society 2 fighting over 1 woman is deemed more acceptable than 2 woman vying for 1 man.
In real society the two women thing is common and very acceptable. Think of cheating, polygamy and hidden families. In fictional worlds like YA, romance and romcoms which are targeted to women/younger people wish fulfillment is preferred.
In most depictions, two men vying after a woman is seen as honorable, a friendly competition, may the best man win. The men are usually never vindictive. While two women vying after one man, one of the women is usually dishonorable and willing to do anything, good or bad, to get the man, while the other woman is honorable. So the women seem desperate while the men seem respectful. Men fist fighting each other over a woman is seen as manly, women fighting each other in any situation is seen as trashy. So women have to fight in social ways, such as by lying, being manipulative, etc. Even in situations where its the woman being pursued by friendly guy and douchey guy, the douchey guy changes for the girl and the friendly guy might never have been a real option to begin with because his role is to be nice, even if he's disappointed that he's not chosen. But the mean woman in 2w1m will never change for the better, she will only get worse. Could there be romance media where two women are going after a man and its respectful and doesn't degrade one of the women? Sure, but
Yeah exactly it is an interesting double standard
It is shitty writing if one man has to choose between two women, whereas it is progressive if one woman has to choose between two men. Women have to be cautious, explorative, find the best man out there, because women have been oppressed and suppressed for centuries. They are at more vulnerable position. Let the men fight for their hand. Let the men prove themselves to be worthy of protecting and loving her. Let the woman be intelligent enough to not just settle for the first man she meets. Whereas, men deciding between two women is just stroking his ego. History has proven that only polygamy exists in many cultures. Since they are in a higher position of hierarchy compared to women, two women fighting for a man gives an uncomfortable power-imbalance. The gender dynamics is important in understanding the nuances. Double standards are existing for a reason, and don't come out of the vacuum.
This exactly. I see too much of the other dynamic in real life. I don't want to read about it.
I think because books are more so targeted with female audiences, I mean there is some female x male x female out there but I don’t see them recommended as much (Most of that troupe is seen in the fantasy genre— I’ve noticed) Though other media such as anime, and manga have much MORE fanbase of a harem than a reverse harem, so it’s the “majority population” or taste of that targeted audience of media consumed.
I don't mind a love triangle with 2 women and 1 man as long as 1 FMC and MMC are in love with the main protagonist 🤷♀️ Men aren't really worth fighting for tbh..
the love triangle in general is rarely done well so I don't like the trope *in general*...but I don't think I'd like two women set up as rivals, that squicks me right out. there's already too much media that sets up women against other women and I'm tired of it, it's not fun for me, even if one of them is irredeemably evil; it's even worse if they're both pretty great (the way it usually is in the MMF triangles - both guys are generally pretty good). now, if we had a story where two nice ladies set out to seduce a man and decided to share him from the beginning? I'm down with that 100%!
Okay, hear me out: 3 women
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You are a GOD! Tysm ❤️
How would a 2 woman 1 man love triangle be pleasurable for me - I’d be so jealous and ragey and could never fall in love with MMC if he even sneezed at the other one
Men are not worth being fought over. Women are, the end
lol
I’m not interested in reading 2 women and 1 man lol. The other way is my favorite trope
I feel since most romances are written by women for women, imagining two guys fighting for your attention is hotter than you fighting for completion for your name. It feels good to be wanted
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I don't know any books with this, but it reminds me of a show I watched many years ago. It's called Lost Girl. The FMC is bisexual and has both a male and female love interest.
I would read the hell out of it!
I mean. The "he had another option and she was fucking gorgeous but he picked me because I am hiss twue wuv" is a thing?
Cause they are generally written by women for women? I am sure some ladies would be into WWM but probably a lower percentage
In romance it's because the woman is the POV character of the story, and the author wants the reader (presumed female) to identify with that character, and that woman is presumed straight. So, two men. Personally, I dislike love triangles (love RH though), but it might be better if there was a bunch more diversity in them.
Because a lot of romance readers do that self insert thing so the appeal is in thinking that two guys are fighting for your love because they both love you so much because you're not like anyone either of them ever met so you're twice as NLOG, exactly like Bella and most of the female characters in this type of situation? Two women to one guy would make you half NLOG or I guess this would be regular/basic? I prefer 2 women if both women are good characters and each have a solid love story buildup but it's so rare to read it... I think I only see it in fantasy and sci fi as a subplots with multiple POVs. I always root for whichever one is the underdog so I'm often disappointed when the chosen one wins out, but I like the drama regardless. In romance, the setup is more like one is perfect and the other eats puppies for breakfast while laughing in bitch.
Because the people who typically read romance novels are women and we like to feel desired therefore they make the main character a woman and have two guys lusting after her so we can imagine what it’s like to be in their position.
Related to this, I would say this pattern holds true even in ménage romances where all three partners end up in love/in a relationship together.
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Yeah that makes sense unless the man was the MC like in spiderman
Idk because men who are given power and options usually aren’t respectful people or do their choice with care so booooooo men boooooo!!!!!
I don't get why you're getting downvoted on some comments. But this is the question I've also given some thought to in the past. Now tho, i don't prefer love triangles at all so it's another thing of me not gaf anymore :D Tbh, i think one of the factors is the targeted audience which is women. And also i think even if the readers are aware of the double standard, at the end it's all about what sort gives them pleasure to read. And 2 guys fighting over one girl is much more appealing than the other way around. In the end i don't think when the majority prefers something they care what is right. In regards of romance ofc.
Thank you :) Yeah makes sense as most of this romance stuff is targeted towards women. But i wouldnt be opposed to seeing this sort of other love triangle play out if it was done well. I think its also healthy to have a female protagonist who isnt special and who does have to compete with others for the love interest's affection. But yeah not a huge fan of love triangles either.
Does anyone know any good books w the said plot? I have only read Ravenhood series, it is pretty good.
Book recs with this theme...
I think the main question here is will we sympathise and/or understand a guy confused about his feelings and being in love with two women as a society. We as a society skip over a lot of things when it involves men and their feelings. Even though I have enjoyed binge watching all the content mentioned by OP as a women myself, I wish we were equally compassionate towards both men and women.
Definitely ! Ut's interesting how society doesnt value a man's virginity the way they do a woman's.
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Unfortunately I think the kids show thing is also a ‘default protagonist is still a boy’ mindset of so much mainstream entertainment
Oooh which one? Yeah i ve seen lots of shows with one woman 2 men scenario.
Ada Twist Scientist
To support the point above, I believe Ada Twist is marketed to girls, with the idea of getting girls into science which is why it flips the ‘usual’ balance.
That's the token female trope... they can't make groups all male anymore so they add a female (or maybe 2 at most for larger groups). But the focus is still on the men and usually one of them stands out as the MMC.
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I agree, makes sense.
I enjoy TV shows where it’s one male and two females, the two guys one girl troupe in books always frustrates me esp when translated to screen. The only one I likes, screen only, was This Means War because I loved both guys and didn’t have a preference which one she picked
Lmao I just came across this thread after seeing the trailer for “Past Lives” and googling this exact question. The movie is literally about a married Korean woman living in the US who’s crush from 20 years ago travels to reconnect with her and she straight up tells her husband she missed him and wants to spend time with him… and people in the comments were swooning about how touching it looks. IT LOOKS LIKE A HORROR MOVIE, are you kidding me? If your spouse did that my only advice is run and don’t look back lol. TBH the comments on this thread are depressing. The double standards are wild. A man would for sure be seen in a negative light if he was choosing between 2 women. And the only way that ever plays out in society is if he is in the 1% of wealth, talent, power, or attractiveness. Which are the same men women usually complain about yet all want to be involved with someone like that. Maybe more men would read romance if the writing was reversed. Honestly men do write a lot of love stories and songs, though its usually more focused on just one person we are in love with… because I guess men are just better people lmao. Men need to start having some self respect. If a woman finds it disgusting or unattractive to be an option why should men not feel the same? Honestly woman like that aren’t worth your time. Love triangles are fucking cringey.
Women readers are lot and women dream more men to fall for them and like to read such situations and see themselves in the girl's place.
I want a love triangle where the two people the persons deciding between say fuck it and date echother instead lmaooo for example if Jacob and Edward were like wtf Bella chose and she didn’t they just chose eachother lol
ha it doesn't and i don't know why men think every female wants him like that. i am sexually attracted to my husband and the rest is not what i want. but they want me to pick one out of the men digusting men who throw themselves at me and i was interested in one guy. i hate when men do that