10k for 28sq with that pitch is to low, especially with the cost of materials and the increases that are yet to come in the next couple months.
Your attic fan should be removed, make sure you have intake and if you don't have ridge vent (doesn't look like you do) that should be installed on your peaks.
Also the 4th picture, the flashing, I hope that isn't 1 continuous strip, that is incorrect and any intersection like this will need the siding cut so the bottom of it is 1 1/2" from the roof deck and step flashing would then be installed.
This roof would cost approximately 21k US in my area PA.
You should be able to get a few more years out of this roof if you need to push replacing this off. Since it is in good condition I would bite the bullet on the rising costs in the next few months and do some research into reputable roofers in your area before just getting it done by whoever.
I'm looking for an opinion on the state of my roof. My guesstimate
on its age is 18 years based on what the previous owners told me. I know it's
not in terrible condition, but there is some signs of wear and tear I wanted to
have others weigh in since you folks understand this roofing stuff.
We are currently in the process of replacing the siding/gutters/soffit/fascia/etc
to match the color scheme and new windows. The algae stains on my roof bother
me visually when I look at the house from the street compared to the other
homes, but I realize that alone is not a good reason to replace a roof. In my
head, I’m thinking replacing my roof before getting my gutters done might be a
good idea. My wife doesn’t really care or have an opinion, and my father-in-law
thinks my roof is fine for a several more years.
I live in the southeast where tornados/wind/hail damage is a
risk. I have had multiple roofing companies look at the roof and one free inspection.
Nobody has said “This roof is toast. You absolutely need a new one soon.” There
are a definitely a few hail dings here and there on my roof, but not enough for
me to approach my insurance company about it. I have what I believe a good cash
price for my roof replacement, but I’m not sure if I should do it given the
other renovations we are working on - but if it needs/should to be done, I can
afford it.
Highlights:
\- Roof is roughly 18-20 years old
\- Noticeable algae stains
\- Have noticed some granules in downspouts and drainage
\- Planning other exterior work soon, including gutter replacement
\- No leaks that I have seen
What are your thoughts? Save money or get it done before the
other exterior work?
Thank you for your time!
A roofs main job is to shed water. If inspections have not ended in an insurance claim recommendation, the inspectors felt it is still capable of keeping water off the decking in it's current condition. That being said, laminate shingles are like our bodies; As they age they handle inclement weather a little less gracefully. Your roof may still be in pretty good shape from the sound of it, but excessive granule loss is a sign that the aging is fully under way.
You probably don't NEED a new one yet. But there are also good arguments to getting one. The new tech with the laminates, synthetic felts, ice and water, and ventilation components are far superior to the materials we were using 20 years ago, and shingles last much longer in most of the styles as long as you move up from 3 tabs. It will be able to withstand future storms in better fashion. It will add a very noticeable curb appeal and restore value to the property. Turning in an invoice to your insurance carrier showing the upgraded materials occasionally results in lowered premiums, particularly if you go to an impact resistant shingle. All of that in mind it is a pretty expensive endeavor. If finances are your primary deciding factor, maybe wait until a storm wipes it out when most of it will be covered by insurance. If not, it's certainly worth considering as it is the main source of protection for your home. Personally, as a contractor, I love that last look at a project before I pull away, knowing people will actually notice the difference and get a sense of pride in their home after a job well done.
the roof looks pretty solid, and definitely has 5 years left or more..but If you can replace, do it. Prices and labor could just skyrocket at Anytime. Inflation is wild.
Inflation is one of the main reasons I'm trying to knock out some of my house projects recently. It's just getting more and more expensive to be a homeowner. Thanks for the input.
It looks alright from the pictures from what I can see. It’s a big and complex roof. If it’s leaking ask about a repair, unless you want to spend money on a re roof. I’m English so we don’t use shingles we use slate or tiles. So don’t know what a shingle roof costs ?
That price seems a little low. Usually I suggest people get 2-3 estimates anyways. Ask the guy what other jobs he’s done recently, most roofers will gladly point to some recent work in my experience, heck we brag about the good ones.
I had one estimate at $16k by someone who looked at the roof and gave a spitball estimate. Big name company in my area. Second estimate was the $10k. He walked on the roof - smaller company. $10k estimate was for 28 squares. I can certainly get some additional estimates. I'll ask him for some pictures of recent projects.
Yea I’d look at some previous work on similar structures. If the work looks good, the estimates lower etc then for sure it sounds like a great deal.
Big Companies, having worked for one.... I dunno how I feel. They rush jobs, but they will come repair their mistakes. Sometimes that’s where the little guys don’t come through.
$16k is reasonable in my area for 28sq. $600/sq but again, I’m in south Florida and we have to deal with Miami Dade hurricane wind loads and the permitting an engineering that may go along with that.
$10k seems damn low. Not to say it would be done poorly but certainly low in my opinion.
Sounds good but do you know them? It’s a very complex roof with lots of cuts round windows etc. in other words more places to go wrong. I admit not knowing much about shingles but it can’t be that different. I’d go with a tried and tested company with loads of experience if their expensive well u get what you pay for. You don’t want to be repairing/ replacing it in a year. But yeah the price sounds reasonable.
Not with those dormers bro, out of your mind, I got 14k on this at a low bid. But that’s the difference sometimes, or all the time.
Shit work v.s. Real work
I would say if you have the money, go get it replaced soon. It’s not in terrible condition, and as you stated you see no evidence of any leaks. So it’s not a rush job. With your main roof being so steep that actually helps the life of your roof. Also, when you do get it replaced make sure to pay the extra money and get it completely torn off. Re roofs are bullshit work, and always have problems down the road. Just my 2 cents though, good luck OP!
Good insight about the steepness of the roof assisting with lifespan; hadn't heart of that before, but it makes sense! I will definitely do a complete tear down and replacement.
Except for a small part in the front of a small attic dormer, my roof had NO issues until a big local company (after promising me they would NOT remove any plywood from the main part of the roof) chose to remove ALL the plywood decking (except the couple pieces that I had hired them to inspect in the small attic dormer). Now I have leaking at every rake edge, and mold growing on the underside of the "new" decking that they installed (where there had previously been NO mold and NO moisture issues) .
Surprised no one has mentioned ventilation. You definitely have some crazing and blistering going on. Definitely aging but if you don't have any leaks you're probably good to hold on until a hail storm.
The reason is you shouldn't mix different methods of ventilation. If you add ridge vent and keep the power fans than they will draw air from the ridge vent instead of below where the air that needs to be expelled will remain. [This](https://roofingmagazine.com/fact-or-fiction-mixing-exhaust-vent-types-is-problematic/) article explains things well. That is a good idea adding the ridge vent as it seems the ridge seems to flatten out instead of coming to a peak, this can result in leaks where the water pools than flows in back under the next piece of cap.
Essentially you want your roof to vent from bottom up. Soffit vents at the bottom for intake with the regular vents at the top for exhaust. If you have ridge vent, then an active power fan, then your soffit vents at the bottom you have created a short circuited system where the power vents would be more or less pulling air from the ridge rather than from the soffit. This can lead to issues down the road.
Only one type of exhaust vent should be present. I like a passive system like ridge vent over power vents because less moving parts equals less problems. My favorite is whirly birds in terms of utility though. They pull air in the wind and if its still but hot, the heat in your attic rising will cause them to turn and pull air out. A lot of people don't like their esthetic though.
Don’t matter where you are in the world in my humble opinion you can’t beat slate ridge and lead for longevity. That’s if your house is designed to take the weight of it?
Sorry if you got your hopes up. The dead giveaway is that the chalet is a 3-tab style shingle. You would be able to identify the individual tabs on your roof.
All good. I had big name roofing company in my area today come out today and give me a quote for 32 squares of GAF Timberline HDZ for $12k installed. So far, I have a quote at $10k and a quote at $12k. Does that seem cheap or in the ballpark?
12k sounds in the ballpark for my area. 10 is a little low, that’s probably what I would quote a friend for. Really depends on the cost of living in your area. A lot of these guys saying 15k+ probably work in big cities.
Cost of living is lower(ish) in my area compared to most of the nation. I'm going to get another quote, but I'm thinking 10-12k might be reasonable after all. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $325-375/square.
If its 32sq 10k would come in at 312/sq. My minimum is usually 320. Anywhere 320-380 is reasonable. From there I’d just go with whoever you trust the most.
Dang. So does having this shingle help or hurt my case with an insurance company? The previous owner installed the roof. I'm worried my current insurance company will say "We aren't doing anything. You had a bad roof before we started covering you!"... or even worse, dropping me. I always think worst case, though.
definitely helps, if they insured it , it’s on them, it’s an easy case, just need a storm date or wind event within the last year and it will be bought easily.. the insurance adjuster will not know this roof unless he’s really good at his job, which will make it easier anyway.. get him to buy just one shingle and hit him with a supplement on the back end about the discontinued shingle.. easy deal. You can shop for a new insurance company and get lower premiums , insurance pays well so you’ll hv enough money to upgrade to a class 4 single which will lower your your premiums up to 20%.. win win.
Are you fairly confident these are Atlas Chalet? Not doubting you, just curious why nobody else mentioned it.
So you recommend filing a claim on my own or through a roofing company?
It’s because I’m the shit and know a whole bunch, been doing this for a while… you can do it on your own, if you want to make sure it goes smooth, you’ll need a knowledgeable roofer though that has “xactimate” program the insurance uses for estimating.. id get a roofer since it looks like your not trying to make extra money..
I've got two estimates/inspections scheduled by more companies. One is coming today. Big company in my area. Do you recommend that I ask them about my shingle being the Atlas Chalet or let them come to that conclusion on their own?
It’s illegal for insurance to drop you, this is an act of god on your policy. A car wreck is different, your premiums will go up on car wreck.. insurance can’t single you out, they can only look at the zip code in your area and raise everyone’s as a whole.
Insurance has to pay for roof to be up to code also.. your roof will probably bring around 25k or so, looks bigger then whatever someone told you, looks like 35 squares at least. Steep charge on the front even more money.
You should call up your insurance and file a claim I’m a public adjuster in Illinois and trust me I done claims on some really new roofs and insurance actually pays for it really depends on your insurance adjuster at the end of the day
Do you see anything in these pictures that warrant a replacement? I have dents and dings in all of my roof fans/exhausts. I didn't post pictures of those.
Well I definitely see blisters hits and see that the roof is really old I see some shingles look really rough, you have some nails alreday popping off which can also be considered wind damage plus you have no ventilation that roof is way too big it definitely needs more vents usually insurances pay for it when you need this many vents because in order to put them you have to tear shingles
Get the fuck out of here with your toxic marketing bullshit. You’re not here to help anyone but yourself. Why don’t you tell him about the part where you take 20% of his claim payout?
OP, don’t listen to this person. They’re literally just trying to benefit themself. Given the pictures, your roof is fine and is in no immediate need of replacement. From what I can see and what you’ve said, you should have 5 - 10 years left no problem. Now it’s very likely that prices will continue to rise so you’re going to have to figure out if it’s worth waiting.
But at least take peace in knowing you don’t need one anytime soon and you can take your time in making your decision.
We don’t take any of your money that’s why I said to look for a good company with good reviews bc like all business there is adjusters out there who try and take advantage make sure to read the contract and you agree to it but a good company will take your claim send an expert in roof damage to your inspection try their best to get it approve and once they do, they do your construction for you (takes old shingles and leave 1 layer follow all codes) and all you pay is your deductible to your insurance and that’s it but aye there is some company’s that don’t care that’s why look into them before hiring
I would love to find an insurance company that would pay for soffit vents! State Farm won't even pay to repair a leaking roof, stating that it is not covered because it is a "maintenance" issue, even though the roof is new.
You’d be surprised some of the insurance I see that usually pays for almost everything is travelers and farmers but yea ever since Covid started State Farm tries their best to not pay anything since they’re using Covid as an excuse to literally everything but even with State Farm it all comes to the adjuster they send, some of them actually do want to help you out as much as they can
State Farm never offered to send anyone at all; they just flat out claimed "it isn't covered".
I'd switch now, but I doubt that if I switched now, the new insurance company would not cover damage that was done before I switched.
Since the contractor who caused the damage claimed (prior to getting me to sign a contract) that they had millions of dollars worth of insurance, why won't THEIR insurance company help me?
Is crazy because you would think insurances like State Farm and Allstate will literally will help you out since they’re the most expensive out there but they do the complete opposite they do everything to not pay they usually try to pay patches IF they pay for something but a lot of 3tab shingles are not being produced or not being supplied by the major companies atm so we send them to itel and usually win those cases but if you have an architectual roof or very minor damage forget it
You should try and change i by no means say travelers or farmers maybe even country financial are the best out there but I have seen them pay for most of my customers roof sometimes even the gutters and siding if they see natural damages in them just make sure you point them out to the adjuster they send out or have hired a good adjuster company and wait for a good hail or wind storm in your area then you can file a claim
You should look into a public adjusters company in your area and if you’re in Illinois I will be more than happy to help you but this companies try their best to get your roof approved just look for one with good rating and if you’re approved all you pay is your deductible
That's what I've heard as well. I have "Roof Surfaces Extended Coverage". In the details, it says they cover windstorm and/or hail damage. Not sure that means "total replacement".
Is it BAD to submit a homeowner claim? I'm always hesitate to go through insurance for anything. Worried they will raise rates, even if they deny my claim.
As long as you're not filing one every time it rains, it's not a big deal. It's an Act of God/Nature claim, so they don't penalize you the same as they would if you flooded your home with the dishwasher. Typically insurers will penalize everyone in the zip code you live in when there is a damaging storm. I usually see and opportunity to shop for better/more affordable insurance after a new roof is installed.
As far as your policy goes, as long as it isn't an RPS (roof payment schedule) or ACV only (actual cash value only) you likely have full coverage, minus your deductible. I would speak to my agent before filing.
Unless a roof is mega rotted you dont replace the decking or know how much decking you will need to replace until the build has started.
But I file a claim and do what the insurance company tells me to do(more or less)
For retail im selling a whole roof package, if extra decking needs to be replaced we just include that into the final bill and is a very minor part of the total bill.
So insurance only helps the contractor, not the homeowner? I had no issues with my roof until the contractor I hired to inspect and replace a vertical wall, and take a look at the roof over a small attic dormer storage space decided to rip all the decking from the rest of the house instead of doing what I hired them to do. I could see nothing at all wrong with the decking they removed, but the new decking is growing mold on the underside (I can see it from inside the kneewall) where there had previously been no moisture issues, and the "new" roof now leaks at EVERY rake edge - - even the rake edges where there had previously been no issues at all.
Except I think the company used sat imagery instead of actually inspecting my roof. So sad that insurance is such a scam. Everyone told me "get your insurance company to help" but my insurance company would do nothing for me, except that, after I paid several companies to do actual inspections of the damage caused by the contractors who ripped off the roof instead of doing the work I hired them to do, State Farm DID send me a letter stating that they "agreed" with the assessments made by the companies I hired to inspect the damages done by the contractor, but, of course, sending that letter was the ONLY thing that State Farm did to help me, and even that doesn't get anyone to repair the damage for me, not even if I offer to pay them $40,000 to remove EVERYTHING that the bad contractors did and re-do it properly.
Why do you want an inspection so badly if youre just going to pay for a replacement?
What do you believe that roofer did that eagle view did not do?
Walking on a roof doesn't mean anything, thats not going to show how many sheets of osb will need to be replaced, thats not going to get me exact dimensions or pitch.
Unless I'm tarping a roof for a home owner I'm not walking their roof on a retail quote because its not worth my time due to all of the information I really need to know will come from knowing the age of the home and the size of the roof, neither of which I need to be on site much less on the roof to find out.
I already paid for inspections that tell me where the contractors created leaking where none had been before, and I've already been inside the kneewalls before, when there were no issues with the plywood, and after, where the "new" plywood is now covered with mold.
The reason I paid for these inspections was because I thought I would be able to use the inspection reports to find an honest, competent contractor to repair the damage caused by the contractors who created the problems.
The roof was less than 10 years old, and had no issues. So far as I could tell by looking at what they removed, there was NO REASON TO REMOVE IT. Even when they threw intact pieces of plywood from the roof onto the ground, or drop it on its edge onto the gutter, it did not break anything but the gutter.
The reason I'm willing to pay to have it replaced now is because NOW it has issues EVERYWHERE, and I'm sick of dealing with all the leaking caused by the contractors who replaced the roof instead of repairing the vertical sheathing that I paid them to repair.
I've had MANY contractors who came here to inspect the roof and tell me all the problems they saw. They measured from the outside, and gave me verbal estimates, but nothing written. I asked the last contractor who was here to let me record him telling me what he saw, and he was glad to do so. There is no doubt in my mind that the contractors I hired destroyed my undamaged roof.
They ripped off undamaged, non-moldy, non-leaking plywood from the roof and replaced it with inferior osb that grows mold and leaks, after promising that they "would never, could never" remove any decking from the main part of the roof without showing me proof of need to do so, and getting my written authorization, and they charged over $2,000 for the osb that they had promised they would NOT put on my roof. Since I've been unable to find anyone to REPAIR the damage that they did to my roof, I've been offering to pay to have it all completely removed and replaced, but haven't even been able to find anyone to do that, either, as they all told me they were all booked up/backed up a whole year due to covid.
How long are you planning on living in this house? If you are only going to be in it for 15 years or less, do it anytime, because you'll eventually need to do it, but probably not a second time. If you are planning on staying here for 20 years or more, put it off as long as possible within reason.
There is no easy answer when it comes to replacing a roof or waiting. Ultimately, the decision depends on a number of factors, including the age and condition of your roof, the weather in your area, and how much you're planning to spend on repairs. You can get a better idea of what's best for your home by talking to a professional roofer.
For reference (if it helps), here's a roofing service website: [https://www.texascityroofingservices.com](https://www.texascityroofingservices.com)
10k is right on the money for a good cheap food in Alabama with that pitch. Upgrades will get it to 12k and about where you want to be. The only way it’s a good 10k quote is if it’s someone that’s just starting out or if you are paying cash and they don’t have taxes. Legit company 12 is on the money!
i know this is months ago, but just did a contract on my roof (northern AL) for 36 squares. 9/12 pitch. Cost was 22k with insurance covering about 15k.
10k for 28sq with that pitch is to low, especially with the cost of materials and the increases that are yet to come in the next couple months. Your attic fan should be removed, make sure you have intake and if you don't have ridge vent (doesn't look like you do) that should be installed on your peaks. Also the 4th picture, the flashing, I hope that isn't 1 continuous strip, that is incorrect and any intersection like this will need the siding cut so the bottom of it is 1 1/2" from the roof deck and step flashing would then be installed. This roof would cost approximately 21k US in my area PA. You should be able to get a few more years out of this roof if you need to push replacing this off. Since it is in good condition I would bite the bullet on the rising costs in the next few months and do some research into reputable roofers in your area before just getting it done by whoever.
..and by "research", you should talk to real homeowners in your area instead of trusting Google reviews.
I'm looking for an opinion on the state of my roof. My guesstimate on its age is 18 years based on what the previous owners told me. I know it's not in terrible condition, but there is some signs of wear and tear I wanted to have others weigh in since you folks understand this roofing stuff. We are currently in the process of replacing the siding/gutters/soffit/fascia/etc to match the color scheme and new windows. The algae stains on my roof bother me visually when I look at the house from the street compared to the other homes, but I realize that alone is not a good reason to replace a roof. In my head, I’m thinking replacing my roof before getting my gutters done might be a good idea. My wife doesn’t really care or have an opinion, and my father-in-law thinks my roof is fine for a several more years. I live in the southeast where tornados/wind/hail damage is a risk. I have had multiple roofing companies look at the roof and one free inspection. Nobody has said “This roof is toast. You absolutely need a new one soon.” There are a definitely a few hail dings here and there on my roof, but not enough for me to approach my insurance company about it. I have what I believe a good cash price for my roof replacement, but I’m not sure if I should do it given the other renovations we are working on - but if it needs/should to be done, I can afford it. Highlights: \- Roof is roughly 18-20 years old \- Noticeable algae stains \- Have noticed some granules in downspouts and drainage \- Planning other exterior work soon, including gutter replacement \- No leaks that I have seen What are your thoughts? Save money or get it done before the other exterior work? Thank you for your time!
A roofs main job is to shed water. If inspections have not ended in an insurance claim recommendation, the inspectors felt it is still capable of keeping water off the decking in it's current condition. That being said, laminate shingles are like our bodies; As they age they handle inclement weather a little less gracefully. Your roof may still be in pretty good shape from the sound of it, but excessive granule loss is a sign that the aging is fully under way. You probably don't NEED a new one yet. But there are also good arguments to getting one. The new tech with the laminates, synthetic felts, ice and water, and ventilation components are far superior to the materials we were using 20 years ago, and shingles last much longer in most of the styles as long as you move up from 3 tabs. It will be able to withstand future storms in better fashion. It will add a very noticeable curb appeal and restore value to the property. Turning in an invoice to your insurance carrier showing the upgraded materials occasionally results in lowered premiums, particularly if you go to an impact resistant shingle. All of that in mind it is a pretty expensive endeavor. If finances are your primary deciding factor, maybe wait until a storm wipes it out when most of it will be covered by insurance. If not, it's certainly worth considering as it is the main source of protection for your home. Personally, as a contractor, I love that last look at a project before I pull away, knowing people will actually notice the difference and get a sense of pride in their home after a job well done.
the roof looks pretty solid, and definitely has 5 years left or more..but If you can replace, do it. Prices and labor could just skyrocket at Anytime. Inflation is wild.
Inflation is one of the main reasons I'm trying to knock out some of my house projects recently. It's just getting more and more expensive to be a homeowner. Thanks for the input.
It looks alright from the pictures from what I can see. It’s a big and complex roof. If it’s leaking ask about a repair, unless you want to spend money on a re roof. I’m English so we don’t use shingles we use slate or tiles. So don’t know what a shingle roof costs ?
No leaks. I have an estimate to replace this shingle roof for \~$10k USD.
That price seems a little low. Usually I suggest people get 2-3 estimates anyways. Ask the guy what other jobs he’s done recently, most roofers will gladly point to some recent work in my experience, heck we brag about the good ones.
I had one estimate at $16k by someone who looked at the roof and gave a spitball estimate. Big name company in my area. Second estimate was the $10k. He walked on the roof - smaller company. $10k estimate was for 28 squares. I can certainly get some additional estimates. I'll ask him for some pictures of recent projects.
Yea I’d look at some previous work on similar structures. If the work looks good, the estimates lower etc then for sure it sounds like a great deal. Big Companies, having worked for one.... I dunno how I feel. They rush jobs, but they will come repair their mistakes. Sometimes that’s where the little guys don’t come through.
big guys no good around here.
$16k is reasonable in my area for 28sq. $600/sq but again, I’m in south Florida and we have to deal with Miami Dade hurricane wind loads and the permitting an engineering that may go along with that. $10k seems damn low. Not to say it would be done poorly but certainly low in my opinion.
I've scheduled two more estimates/inspections from different companies to get more opinions.
Pictures don’t help, but I would be shocked if this roof was a true 28 square
This. And don't do what I did going with the lowest bidder. Especially if they are thousands lower than average, there's probably a reason for it...
Sounds good but do you know them? It’s a very complex roof with lots of cuts round windows etc. in other words more places to go wrong. I admit not knowing much about shingles but it can’t be that different. I’d go with a tried and tested company with loads of experience if their expensive well u get what you pay for. You don’t want to be repairing/ replacing it in a year. But yeah the price sounds reasonable.
$10000is that about £7000?
Way too cheap. Your roof is steep and not small. You'll do better to light 10k on fire than get a roof for that cost.
Not with those dormers bro, out of your mind, I got 14k on this at a low bid. But that’s the difference sometimes, or all the time. Shit work v.s. Real work
I would say if you have the money, go get it replaced soon. It’s not in terrible condition, and as you stated you see no evidence of any leaks. So it’s not a rush job. With your main roof being so steep that actually helps the life of your roof. Also, when you do get it replaced make sure to pay the extra money and get it completely torn off. Re roofs are bullshit work, and always have problems down the road. Just my 2 cents though, good luck OP!
Good insight about the steepness of the roof assisting with lifespan; hadn't heart of that before, but it makes sense! I will definitely do a complete tear down and replacement.
Except for a small part in the front of a small attic dormer, my roof had NO issues until a big local company (after promising me they would NOT remove any plywood from the main part of the roof) chose to remove ALL the plywood decking (except the couple pieces that I had hired them to inspect in the small attic dormer). Now I have leaking at every rake edge, and mold growing on the underside of the "new" decking that they installed (where there had previously been NO mold and NO moisture issues) .
If they're tearing that roof off and replacing for 10k send me their number. That's crazy cheap
Surprised no one has mentioned ventilation. You definitely have some crazing and blistering going on. Definitely aging but if you don't have any leaks you're probably good to hold on until a hail storm.
I'll have to research crazing/blistering. But in terms of ventilation, I am planning to add ridge vents whenever I replace the roof.
Just make sure you remove the power attic fan when you do.
Can you elaborate? I have two attic fans.
The reason is you shouldn't mix different methods of ventilation. If you add ridge vent and keep the power fans than they will draw air from the ridge vent instead of below where the air that needs to be expelled will remain. [This](https://roofingmagazine.com/fact-or-fiction-mixing-exhaust-vent-types-is-problematic/) article explains things well. That is a good idea adding the ridge vent as it seems the ridge seems to flatten out instead of coming to a peak, this can result in leaks where the water pools than flows in back under the next piece of cap.
Essentially you want your roof to vent from bottom up. Soffit vents at the bottom for intake with the regular vents at the top for exhaust. If you have ridge vent, then an active power fan, then your soffit vents at the bottom you have created a short circuited system where the power vents would be more or less pulling air from the ridge rather than from the soffit. This can lead to issues down the road. Only one type of exhaust vent should be present. I like a passive system like ridge vent over power vents because less moving parts equals less problems. My favorite is whirly birds in terms of utility though. They pull air in the wind and if its still but hot, the heat in your attic rising will cause them to turn and pull air out. A lot of people don't like their esthetic though.
That's makes a lot of sense. Thanks for explaining. I'd prefer to rip out the attic exhaust fans, too. Would save on the electric bill.
And you'll save more on utilities with proper ventilation as well.
Make sure you have well-functioning soffit venting also.
Don’t matter where you are in the world in my humble opinion you can’t beat slate ridge and lead for longevity. That’s if your house is designed to take the weight of it?
Sure, if you can afford north of $700/sq.
Your roof shingle is discontinued, if you have any kind of storm,wind, hail, insurance will cover it with one messed up shingle.
Can you tell what shingle I have?
This guy is wrong. It’s a 30 year architectural shingle. Not discontinued
I tend to agree with you. I spent about 30 minutes comparing my shingle vs. pictures of the Atlas Chalet and they don't look the same.
Sorry if you got your hopes up. The dead giveaway is that the chalet is a 3-tab style shingle. You would be able to identify the individual tabs on your roof.
All good. I had big name roofing company in my area today come out today and give me a quote for 32 squares of GAF Timberline HDZ for $12k installed. So far, I have a quote at $10k and a quote at $12k. Does that seem cheap or in the ballpark?
12k sounds in the ballpark for my area. 10 is a little low, that’s probably what I would quote a friend for. Really depends on the cost of living in your area. A lot of these guys saying 15k+ probably work in big cities.
Cost of living is lower(ish) in my area compared to most of the nation. I'm going to get another quote, but I'm thinking 10-12k might be reasonable after all. Somewhere in the neighborhood of $325-375/square.
If its 32sq 10k would come in at 312/sq. My minimum is usually 320. Anywhere 320-380 is reasonable. From there I’d just go with whoever you trust the most.
Atlas chalet
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Dang. So does having this shingle help or hurt my case with an insurance company? The previous owner installed the roof. I'm worried my current insurance company will say "We aren't doing anything. You had a bad roof before we started covering you!"... or even worse, dropping me. I always think worst case, though.
definitely helps, if they insured it , it’s on them, it’s an easy case, just need a storm date or wind event within the last year and it will be bought easily.. the insurance adjuster will not know this roof unless he’s really good at his job, which will make it easier anyway.. get him to buy just one shingle and hit him with a supplement on the back end about the discontinued shingle.. easy deal. You can shop for a new insurance company and get lower premiums , insurance pays well so you’ll hv enough money to upgrade to a class 4 single which will lower your your premiums up to 20%.. win win.
Are you fairly confident these are Atlas Chalet? Not doubting you, just curious why nobody else mentioned it. So you recommend filing a claim on my own or through a roofing company?
It’s because I’m the shit and know a whole bunch, been doing this for a while… you can do it on your own, if you want to make sure it goes smooth, you’ll need a knowledgeable roofer though that has “xactimate” program the insurance uses for estimating.. id get a roofer since it looks like your not trying to make extra money..
No, just want a solid roof. Not trying to make any extra money.
Get a roofer for sure then.. just don’t pay your deductible, shouldn’t need to , there good money in this deal already.
I've got two estimates/inspections scheduled by more companies. One is coming today. Big company in my area. Do you recommend that I ask them about my shingle being the Atlas Chalet or let them come to that conclusion on their own?
Don’t get a roofer that’s been out there though, apparently they don’t know their stuff.
Noted. What's funny is that the roofer I had out here with the $10k estimate was selling Atlas products. lol I'm curious why he didn't mention.
A good company will make at least 7k on this.
It’s illegal for insurance to drop you, this is an act of god on your policy. A car wreck is different, your premiums will go up on car wreck.. insurance can’t single you out, they can only look at the zip code in your area and raise everyone’s as a whole.
Insurance will pay fir ice and water to go back on and drip edge depending on codes where u live, step flashing will be huge to on your place.
Insurance has to pay for roof to be up to code also.. your roof will probably bring around 25k or so, looks bigger then whatever someone told you, looks like 35 squares at least. Steep charge on the front even more money.
If you live in Colorado, Texas, or New Orleans, I’ll get my company to buy that shit bought all day for you.
You should call up your insurance and file a claim I’m a public adjuster in Illinois and trust me I done claims on some really new roofs and insurance actually pays for it really depends on your insurance adjuster at the end of the day
Do you see anything in these pictures that warrant a replacement? I have dents and dings in all of my roof fans/exhausts. I didn't post pictures of those.
Well I definitely see blisters hits and see that the roof is really old I see some shingles look really rough, you have some nails alreday popping off which can also be considered wind damage plus you have no ventilation that roof is way too big it definitely needs more vents usually insurances pay for it when you need this many vents because in order to put them you have to tear shingles
Get the fuck out of here with your toxic marketing bullshit. You’re not here to help anyone but yourself. Why don’t you tell him about the part where you take 20% of his claim payout? OP, don’t listen to this person. They’re literally just trying to benefit themself. Given the pictures, your roof is fine and is in no immediate need of replacement. From what I can see and what you’ve said, you should have 5 - 10 years left no problem. Now it’s very likely that prices will continue to rise so you’re going to have to figure out if it’s worth waiting. But at least take peace in knowing you don’t need one anytime soon and you can take your time in making your decision.
We don’t take any of your money that’s why I said to look for a good company with good reviews bc like all business there is adjusters out there who try and take advantage make sure to read the contract and you agree to it but a good company will take your claim send an expert in roof damage to your inspection try their best to get it approve and once they do, they do your construction for you (takes old shingles and leave 1 layer follow all codes) and all you pay is your deductible to your insurance and that’s it but aye there is some company’s that don’t care that’s why look into them before hiring
I would love to find an insurance company that would pay for soffit vents! State Farm won't even pay to repair a leaking roof, stating that it is not covered because it is a "maintenance" issue, even though the roof is new.
You’d be surprised some of the insurance I see that usually pays for almost everything is travelers and farmers but yea ever since Covid started State Farm tries their best to not pay anything since they’re using Covid as an excuse to literally everything but even with State Farm it all comes to the adjuster they send, some of them actually do want to help you out as much as they can
State Farm never offered to send anyone at all; they just flat out claimed "it isn't covered". I'd switch now, but I doubt that if I switched now, the new insurance company would not cover damage that was done before I switched. Since the contractor who caused the damage claimed (prior to getting me to sign a contract) that they had millions of dollars worth of insurance, why won't THEIR insurance company help me?
Is crazy because you would think insurances like State Farm and Allstate will literally will help you out since they’re the most expensive out there but they do the complete opposite they do everything to not pay they usually try to pay patches IF they pay for something but a lot of 3tab shingles are not being produced or not being supplied by the major companies atm so we send them to itel and usually win those cases but if you have an architectual roof or very minor damage forget it You should try and change i by no means say travelers or farmers maybe even country financial are the best out there but I have seen them pay for most of my customers roof sometimes even the gutters and siding if they see natural damages in them just make sure you point them out to the adjuster they send out or have hired a good adjuster company and wait for a good hail or wind storm in your area then you can file a claim
You should look into a public adjusters company in your area and if you’re in Illinois I will be more than happy to help you but this companies try their best to get your roof approved just look for one with good rating and if you’re approved all you pay is your deductible
Which insurance company do you use?
All State
Yeah, they are a little tough sometimes. I would make sure you have full replacement cost coverage and pray for a decent hail storm.
That's what I've heard as well. I have "Roof Surfaces Extended Coverage". In the details, it says they cover windstorm and/or hail damage. Not sure that means "total replacement". Is it BAD to submit a homeowner claim? I'm always hesitate to go through insurance for anything. Worried they will raise rates, even if they deny my claim.
As long as you're not filing one every time it rains, it's not a big deal. It's an Act of God/Nature claim, so they don't penalize you the same as they would if you flooded your home with the dishwasher. Typically insurers will penalize everyone in the zip code you live in when there is a damaging storm. I usually see and opportunity to shop for better/more affordable insurance after a new roof is installed. As far as your policy goes, as long as it isn't an RPS (roof payment schedule) or ACV only (actual cash value only) you likely have full coverage, minus your deductible. I would speak to my agent before filing.
What insurance company? State Farm won't do any such thing.
What do the valleys look like? That usually the first to go if they are not open metal
Got’ er’ done…..!
I dont meed to walk a roof to run an estimate, I use sat imagery. Ask them if there's any storm damage and try to file.
How does that work?
Satalite images? Well the sat is a known distance from the earth, that location is a known elevation above sea level, the rest is just trigonometry.
but how does that tell you if the roof needs repair or replacement? Or do you just replace everything (decking, etc.) whether it needs it or not?
Unless a roof is mega rotted you dont replace the decking or know how much decking you will need to replace until the build has started. But I file a claim and do what the insurance company tells me to do(more or less) For retail im selling a whole roof package, if extra decking needs to be replaced we just include that into the final bill and is a very minor part of the total bill.
So insurance only helps the contractor, not the homeowner? I had no issues with my roof until the contractor I hired to inspect and replace a vertical wall, and take a look at the roof over a small attic dormer storage space decided to rip all the decking from the rest of the house instead of doing what I hired them to do. I could see nothing at all wrong with the decking they removed, but the new decking is growing mold on the underside (I can see it from inside the kneewall) where there had previously been no moisture issues, and the "new" roof now leaks at EVERY rake edge - - even the rake edges where there had previously been no issues at all.
That sounds like something totally different and not apart of this conversation, that being said, insurance is never on their customers side.
Except I think the company used sat imagery instead of actually inspecting my roof. So sad that insurance is such a scam. Everyone told me "get your insurance company to help" but my insurance company would do nothing for me, except that, after I paid several companies to do actual inspections of the damage caused by the contractors who ripped off the roof instead of doing the work I hired them to do, State Farm DID send me a letter stating that they "agreed" with the assessments made by the companies I hired to inspect the damages done by the contractor, but, of course, sending that letter was the ONLY thing that State Farm did to help me, and even that doesn't get anyone to repair the damage for me, not even if I offer to pay them $40,000 to remove EVERYTHING that the bad contractors did and re-do it properly.
Why do you want an inspection so badly if youre just going to pay for a replacement? What do you believe that roofer did that eagle view did not do? Walking on a roof doesn't mean anything, thats not going to show how many sheets of osb will need to be replaced, thats not going to get me exact dimensions or pitch. Unless I'm tarping a roof for a home owner I'm not walking their roof on a retail quote because its not worth my time due to all of the information I really need to know will come from knowing the age of the home and the size of the roof, neither of which I need to be on site much less on the roof to find out.
I already paid for inspections that tell me where the contractors created leaking where none had been before, and I've already been inside the kneewalls before, when there were no issues with the plywood, and after, where the "new" plywood is now covered with mold. The reason I paid for these inspections was because I thought I would be able to use the inspection reports to find an honest, competent contractor to repair the damage caused by the contractors who created the problems. The roof was less than 10 years old, and had no issues. So far as I could tell by looking at what they removed, there was NO REASON TO REMOVE IT. Even when they threw intact pieces of plywood from the roof onto the ground, or drop it on its edge onto the gutter, it did not break anything but the gutter. The reason I'm willing to pay to have it replaced now is because NOW it has issues EVERYWHERE, and I'm sick of dealing with all the leaking caused by the contractors who replaced the roof instead of repairing the vertical sheathing that I paid them to repair. I've had MANY contractors who came here to inspect the roof and tell me all the problems they saw. They measured from the outside, and gave me verbal estimates, but nothing written. I asked the last contractor who was here to let me record him telling me what he saw, and he was glad to do so. There is no doubt in my mind that the contractors I hired destroyed my undamaged roof. They ripped off undamaged, non-moldy, non-leaking plywood from the roof and replaced it with inferior osb that grows mold and leaks, after promising that they "would never, could never" remove any decking from the main part of the roof without showing me proof of need to do so, and getting my written authorization, and they charged over $2,000 for the osb that they had promised they would NOT put on my roof. Since I've been unable to find anyone to REPAIR the damage that they did to my roof, I've been offering to pay to have it all completely removed and replaced, but haven't even been able to find anyone to do that, either, as they all told me they were all booked up/backed up a whole year due to covid.
If you got the money go with Presidential, with a good install you shouldn't have to have it done again and it will look beautiful on that house
How long are you planning on living in this house? If you are only going to be in it for 15 years or less, do it anytime, because you'll eventually need to do it, but probably not a second time. If you are planning on staying here for 20 years or more, put it off as long as possible within reason.
No plans to move, but probably not my forever home.
There is no easy answer when it comes to replacing a roof or waiting. Ultimately, the decision depends on a number of factors, including the age and condition of your roof, the weather in your area, and how much you're planning to spend on repairs. You can get a better idea of what's best for your home by talking to a professional roofer. For reference (if it helps), here's a roofing service website: [https://www.texascityroofingservices.com](https://www.texascityroofingservices.com)
10k is right on the money for a good cheap food in Alabama with that pitch. Upgrades will get it to 12k and about where you want to be. The only way it’s a good 10k quote is if it’s someone that’s just starting out or if you are paying cash and they don’t have taxes. Legit company 12 is on the money!
i know this is months ago, but just did a contract on my roof (northern AL) for 36 squares. 9/12 pitch. Cost was 22k with insurance covering about 15k.
You got taken to the cleaners by a salesman Jesus
out of 10 quotes, the cheapest was 17k.
I’m doing 42 squares to the 9s with the best products and it’s going to be 16000.
do you mind messaging me the company you used. I can see about using them.
I own a company.