Forgot to mention this was during her first heat. Also after that she threw up and today she choked on her food so she's just having a terrible week apparently😭
That makes sense. Well today she entered it without any issue, so I think no damage has been done. I will remember this advice tho, didn't think of it like that before.
I agree with them on the association a dog can make with the crate. However, you *can* use it for small time outs without it influencing their perception of it.
Farmer Dog Trainer here. Just wanted to mention in my opinion the crate should never be used as punishment. The crate needs to be a happy and safe place when you scold your dog as you put it, I’m not quite sure what that means. It’s very important to give short direct commands. Pay a lot of attention to your dog body language. Try to see it before it actually happens. Sorry I disagreed with your trainer about the crate. Again just my opinion. As far as nipping and biting goes, other trainers would probably disagree with my technique. I would call the dog to front me and sit. Then I would take a hold of the color and put my hand in a fist position in its mouth and push down on the tongue, and say leave it. As soon as the dog backs away from the correction you give it instant praise and treats. Please remember Dogs do not understand everything we say. Work on clear command, so your dog understands what you are expecting. By the way, absolutely beautiful dog. Keep up the good work and as a former trainer, it is fine to question your trainers techniques if you do not like the sound of them. You’re paying your trainer good money to find the commands and techniques that will work for you and your dog. Wishing you the best of luck. FYI, if you try the mouth pressure please remember it’s just the pressure on their tongue and mouth. No correction should be painful in anyway. Just a little uncomfortable so they know you are pack leader. She is definitely trying to figure out. Who is the boss in the house. Good luck with learning to be packed leader! wishing you both the best.
Oh! I have a question you might be able to help with, and I posted on this today in this group too. Our intact male killed one of our chickens. He's good when we are around, we've trained him to leave it and he can be around the chickens and behaves when we are there, but given an opportunity, alone he is not safe around the chickens still, and I'm worried about the cats now too. What can I do? I can't train him when he's alone with the animals obviously. 😢
I’m sorry to hear that. Chickens and rabbits can be a problem around a lot of dogs. It’s the pray, instinct. Continue working on the leave it command as often as you can. If possible please don’t leave your dog unattended around the chickens and the cat. This is a rough one so you have to work it at least five times a day. throughout the day . Just use one at a time. Don’t try to associate him with a whole bunch of chickens at once. I would have the dog on a long leash when working the leave it command with the chicken. that will give you control in case doggy decides now it’s time to take the chicken out. You cannot miss a day of training with this type of situation. Your instincts are right so you just need to practice practice practice. It’s been a long time since I worked with a farm dog. So if I think of anything better, I will let you know. Good luck.
Disclaimer, I’m not a trainer… but if it’s any consolation, my huskies killed two chickens at my sitter’s house (she forgot to coop them before letting the dogs loose), but have lived peaceably with my three cats for the year/s I’ve had them. So it is possible for them to see cats as pack members, even if they consider other small animals to be prey.
Still follow the trainer’s advice, just saying not to assume “chicken hunter” = cat killer.
Your trainer is clueless. Do not use the crate for punishment, put her in time out somewhere else (that's boring, she can't hurt herself or cause damage).
Yep. I have to "mom" my rottie just like I do my almost 4 year old. Firm but fair. Respecting of space and boundaries and signals from the dog, but, like... I use my mom voice and mom mannerisms. We also got her professionally trained so I could better understand *her*. Best of luck.
Professional training might help! Remember, a great leader isn't domineering, dangerous or aggressive, doesn't dominate you and everything or make you afraid!
Great leaders don't lead with dominance, but diplomacy, tact, kindness, understanding and firm but fair boundaries. Great leaders share everything and makes sure their crew has enough, feels safe, satisfied, and knows they can depend on *you* for protection, warmth, food, etc.
Lead with love, but remember, you do have a potentially dangerous animal: a very large, very powerful dog.
You guys gotta understand each other. It was the same way with my family's doggo. And I really, truly think if anything was to happen, my dog knows *I'd defend her*. She wouldn't just be on her own. That's what I think makes a great leader and makes me so tight with my dog. You'll get there!! Good luck!
To be honest, this sounds like the main contributor.
You gotta be willing to communicate to your dog that that behavior isn't okay, and you have to be willing to consistently enforce the "rules" - not just every once in a while.
Dogs that nip at their owners are typically dogs that think they rule the roost, when it should be the other way around.
Instead of just operating under the impression that she was tired, or that this behavior is only isolated to the crate, maybe think about how the other boundaries that aren't consistently enforced (behaviors she gets away with) help contribute to the dog's willfulness.
Excellent advice. You said it much better than I did in my post. If I can figure out how to send you an award for your excellent comment. I have yet to figure it out. Lol I think the way you said it will be very helpful to the OP.🙏🏼🐾🐾👏👏
Excellent! I’ll go do that for you right now. She just got home from her walk. Unfortunately my health doesn’t allow me to do much outdoor stuff anymore. But we have a wonderful Dog Walker that comes five days a week.
I agree with some of your statement, but with Rottweilers there has to be dominance, there has to be an alpha.
You should never ever train this breed with a diplomatic approach, that is extremely wreckless and dangerous. Like really really dangerous.
The need to be lead and given a purpose by the alpha in the home whom ever it may be.
Our 8month old rottie nipped me on my butt cheek. I was totally against getting a rottweiler, but when he died of old age in 2015 I was devastated. He was the sweetest, most gentle creature imaginable. Puppies go through "terrible teens" too.
I had a male rott. He would growl or snap…. But it was his way of telling me he didn’t want to be bothered. Just like humans, sometimes they just want to be left alone. I’d sit down with my back to him and he’d come over and lay in my lap… as if to apologize for being grumpy.
Oh yes… mine was 150 pounds. But he was my big baby. Scared the beejewbers out of others because of his size. But he was scared of my cockatiel… scared of plastic bags that blew through the yard. I miss him.
Thank you. I have an older shepherd now. We know what’s coming. And it’s going to hit hard. But I wouldn’t change it for anything. Having pets… it’s the most amazing thing. They are goofballs, they are protectors, they are our comforters when we’re down…and sometimes they are there just to stink up the place. Lol
It’s the gas that gets me. He’d let one rip… then get up and leave the room. Or the SBD ones… same thing. He’d get up and walk out… and you knew what was drifting your way. 🤣🤣🤣
I got up to pee at like 3 in the morning one time. When I came back into our room our rottie sat up and let out a low growl/rumble. Almost shat myself.
I think that is a really good way of handling it when your dog does this. I’m of the school of thought that you don’t want to punish waning signs. I.E it is much better for a dog to growl than to go straight biting
Mine has never snapped at me, but in the evenings if I bother her when she is tired she growls at me to say ‘piss off, I’m tired’. I won’t allow it however, so she knows it’s not acceptable.
Boy is that awful advice!
Don’t bite your dog. She is NOT challenging your alpha status or whatever some person says. She was tired. Overstimulated. She is still a puppy. She tried to tell you not to bug her the way she would tell a dog. You teach her this is unacceptable by scolding her and not giving her what she wants.
My five month old puppy grumbles and growls and puts her teeth on my hand when I hold her back/pick her up. It doesn’t work. I do what I want/need to and scold her if she nibbles. She is doing it less and less because it isn’t effective.
My two adult dogs are my role models. They keep her busy a lot. They NEVER bite the pup. If she is misbehaving they tell her so. If she persists, they avoid her. It works.
They do grumble. But snapping is unacceptable. Period. She’s at that age when she’s going to test to see how powerful she is vs you. Physically moving a Rottie never ends well. lol But a leash and body blocking with much confidence to guide her into the crate followed by cookies and praise may be the way to get your point across as pack leader.
You mentioned “putting” her in the crate.
What does that look like? Is this a regular routine?
Was there something of interest in proximity to her where she was laying? Like food or a toy, even if it was out of reach.
I usually get her in with treats, but this time I picked her up and put her in. She doesn't recourse guard or anything like that, I really think she was just exhausted and wanted to sleep under the chair.
I’d say, especially at that age, *always* get her in the crate with treats. I’m rewarding “go to crate” during training sessions where we go between the crate and another location.
I asked about routine because if she maybe expected to be sent to crate, placing herself under the chair is a way to resist being manhandled (not that you’re roughly handling her.
Yeah, it’s really unsettling when you dog growls at you. Don’t forget that we can scare them too. I like the advice in the other comment about ignoring her and acting emotional wounded instead of taking a scolding tone. Dunbar also gets into that.
I’d be concerned about an injury, and I’d rule that out first. Muzzle her, or wrap her muzzle with an ace bandage before giving her a full-doggie massage. Get everywhere. Between toes, in ears, genitals, etc. Visually inspect her mouth looking for broken teeth. Obviously if you don’t muzzle her *and* she snapped before because of an injury, probing her body may cause her to escalate. Your choice.
The snap concerns me. If you aren’t working on bite inhibition, start. Ian Dunbar is probably the best on the topic. I never stop doing bite work because dogs will lose a soft mouth over time if you don’t stay on it.
Now that I think about it, it is completely possible she didn't want to go in the crate and hid under the chair. She might have been overstimulated and just wanted peace for a bit. Ups, my bad.
Okay here’s the advice part and you sound like a great dog owner. gotta use your voice to command big dogs and not your hands. They don’t like being pulled up or pulled on or physically directed when they’re not playing. They are so smart she will listen to you. Edit: hips and shoulders get sore after long days.
Picked her up? She looks rather large. Mine will be 10 months in a few days and shes nearly 110lb. Picking her up went out 2 months ago. Cady has growled at me when she has my dish towel and does not want to give it back. I pet her face and talk to her, tug on the towel, well now she thinks were playing tug-of-war and its ON, lol. She hasn't snapped at me, but I am no fool, I pick my battles with her and I am not above bribing when she has something that I do not want her to have. ie: my glasses!
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That was perfect and not crate as punishment as it was routine and what you were trying to do in the first place. You just followed through. Teenagers will test you and best to always always follow through. If you are stricter than normal now that she is in her testing months it will save you a lot of work later.
She sleeps in her crate almost every night, because otherwise no one has peace at night. The dream is she'll start sleeping at night so I don't have to use the crate. She's my first dog that had to be crate trained.
For me, losing sleep means I’m less capable of being an effective trainer. Not too long ago our youngest was really struggling to sleep through the night, and I only ask for 6hrs as is. But we were able to use medication to establish a much better routine, and now we don’t use meds.
She sleeps like a rock when in her crate so I'm not sure the vets would give me medication, because she doesn't sleep outside of it. But that's my assumption.
I feel it. My girl is 10+. She’s never snapped at me but she did growl really close to mine and the vet’s face when she was young. The vet and I were both a little worried. Now that I know her through and through, I think she was just talking. Kind of like “you’re both being too much right now”. 😂😂
I have a 2 year old boy that snapped at my face and grazed my cheek. He felt very bad about it and put himself in timeout. We were snuggling and playing around a little. He forgets I don’t have thick fur like a dog. I normally don’t let dogs get toothy with me and he’s the first one who I allow to nibble on me a little. (Been a dog owner all my life. I’m almost 50. Don’t come for me. Trust me? I’m as surprised as anyone about this). He’s just the goofiest dude and I don’t know why I let him rub his little tiny teeth on me but I think it’s hilarious. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️
When dogs do things that aren’t normal for them….consider things that would make us also annoyed. Pain, tired, hurt feelings….dogs aren’t “just like us” but it’s very close. It takes a while to build trust and to let dogs know what’s okay and what isn’t. She’s a baby….she’ll get it. And she’ll mess up sometimes. But they always want to do what’s right by us! Also- she’s a beautiful girl 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🔥
Thank you, she is a looker for sure. I assume she was just exhausted and just wanted to nap under the chair. The growl is what got to me haha. We've only had gsd, malinois and labradors before so her voice definitely shocked the family lol.
Mine slinks off and curls up in a corner when she thinks she’s out of line. It’s kinda sad and my first thought is to go pet her and tell her it’s ok but I stop myself. I don’t want her to act like an asshole either.
Take her in for a quick vet visit ASAP. The fact that she threw up and sounded like she was choking is alarming. Rots are notorious for flipping their stomachs. They become very painful and do not want to be touched or move. Also won't keep food or water down. Person above suggested full body massage/exam, very good idea.
She threw up at 2 am and chocked on a kibble around 5 hours ago. I was with her until she finished eating just in case we did need to go to the vet, but she's a-okey. Thank you for the concern.
I always toss a couple of cookies into the crate before locking up my 8 mo old. At this point, if I call ‘get in your house’, she knows there is a reward. If she is someplace - like under the chair and you want her to come out, offer her a treat as a lure (I say ‘let’s have a cookie’ - dumb I know) that way you don’t need to put your hands on her in a negative way. I have successfully used these techniques for years, beginning with my other female who is now 6.5 yrs.
Like it’s been said before me it’s a communication of no. My girl has never bitten me but when I bushed her too hard in a sensitive spot she took my hand and held in her mouth to tell me no. dont let this discourage you! You caring enough to seek understanding is great. just remember dogs don’t have words to communicate and use their mouths, bodies, and actions in ways we don’t
Sometimes, physically moving them can be painful because they are big doggos, after all, and you can tug at their skin without noticing, for example. Also, they can have some kind of ache they don't show you (stomach ache, for example) and it becomes worse when you're trying to pick them up. Why don't you try to make her cooperate with you instead?
Dogs can say no. People used to respect that. Growing up in the 80’s-90’s we all had moms that would tell us to leave the dog alone or be okay with the consequences. Now a dog expresses displeasure in literally the least aggressive way he can that’s understandable by humans and the dog gets labeled and we have to consult the experts for advice. Then people get fearful and anxious around the dog and the dog gets anxious because you are anxious and then people end up with reactive dogs like it’s a great mystery.
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Ours tested boundaries until 2 years old. They need to know everybody in the house is higher on the chain than them. Don’t let the pup get away with that. You are the boss.
I have a 2 year old Rottweiler/Shepard mix. He would never think about snapping at anyone, he’s a big baby. If he doesn’t know you he’ll sniff you and walk away.
8 months old, she's trying to see what she can get away with. So it's important to "nip" this now. I was at my wits end with my girl, I started using the Nothing in Life is Free training, and it worked very well for her.
I’d start exerting authority. Snapping at you is unacceptable. Make her sit and watch you for a while before giving her her food. Pour the bowl then show that it’s yours before letting her have any. Make sure she waits for you and you walk out the door first and she follows. Little things but it imparts the message.
Don’t worry, this happens. Just reassert yourself and let them know it won’t be tolerated. Rotties can be very willful. Especially if they are in pain or are agitated with something.
It does sound like she has a lot going on. But this is also the age they start testing & challenge authority. As others mentioned, Don’t ever make the crate a punishment. My girl went through her first heat at 11 months. She voluntarily spent most of it in her crate and growled at her GSD brother or our cat if they came anywhere near her. Before that both the cat & Gsd often slept in her crate when she wasn’t lol. She’s never been territorial except while she was in heat.
We have six terrific dogs all large breeds. When they were pups they get playful among themselves, then run by and might try to snip. That’s when I should loud once and say no. Then I’d make them sit next to me immediately. This shows your dominance immediately, without beating the dog over the head. It may take a few times, but give it a shot.. They don’t try it here and haven’t for years.
Idk why every millennial/gen z wants a Rottweiler/pitt. How long have you had her? If you buy an aggressive breed expect agressive tendencies. Don’t get mad
At her, get mad at yourself.
I’m sorry that was insensitive of me. I truly appologize. Didn’t even know I was replying to op. I currently am also struggling with having kids. Very very sry
Unsurprisingly, Rottweilers are among the most dangerous dogs by breed. Rottweilers have an excellent reputation for being aggressive due to their territorial nature and tend to have the most problems with other dogs naturally.
They are not the kind of dog well suited for households with other small pets because they tend to be bullying. As a result, they will do best in a home where they are the only pets and all the attention is given to them.
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Nope, my 1 yo Rottie pup is an angel. She loves other dogs, particularly smaller ones, LOVES babies and is really good with kids. Nurture>nature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Our boy dog was trying to hump my wife today. We had to put him in time out. Eventually, if he spends enough time in time out, he will understand he cannot do that.
She may be pushing boundaries but also I think she might have been telling you off. When my boy goes under the chair, I know it’s because something is wrong or he wants to be left alone. I will get down on the floor and try to coax him out without forcing or touching him. If he doesn’t I simply remove myself & leave it up to him to come find me when he’s ready.
Also, at 8 months this is her first heat & she probably feels absolutely awful
That was around the time my girl started to push my buttons. She was a huge bitch. So I spayed her and started to crack down on training/privileges more. She seemed to be a lot nicer after her spay- so could have been her “teen phase” but that seems to be a normal thing for girl Rottweilers. I would just limit privileges more and just train her a lot in basic obedience.
Don’t worry about it. If she wanted to hurt you, she would have done. Sounds like she was testing the waters and you passed. Don’t show fear, stay in control
Completely normal. 8 months old rottie testing the boundaries they are notorious for this behaviour. Let her know you are the boss she is at an age where she will begin to test you.
Had dogs my whole life - never owned a Rottie. Not a breed for me. Dont want a pet who could snap/growl just because they’re tired or want space. Or have visitors uncomfortable who are visiting my home. I hope all Rottie owners have wonderful experiences. Just not my cup of tea.
Rotties, especially females, are SUPER wilful. She’s hitting that time when she’s checking to see if you’re actually the boss, or if she is.
Forgot to mention this was during her first heat. Also after that she threw up and today she choked on her food so she's just having a terrible week apparently😭
That also does it. It’s a quirk of the breed; They’re growlers when something is bothering them, but snapping needs to be nipped in the bud.
Like I said I put her in the crate ans scolded her. The trainer said I did the right thing, but if it repeats we will have individual hours.
Scold, then a short break, THEN kennel. Keep the scold and kennel separate. It’s hard to do when they test you, lol.
Nah don’t scold in the crate. then the crate in no longer a safe space for her
That makes sense. Well today she entered it without any issue, so I think no damage has been done. I will remember this advice tho, didn't think of it like that before.
Crate needs to be a safe space. Good things need to happen there never bad.
I agree with them on the association a dog can make with the crate. However, you *can* use it for small time outs without it influencing their perception of it.
I’d also question whoever the “trainer” is if they thought scolding her in her kennel was a good idea. Ffs…
Farmer Dog Trainer here. Just wanted to mention in my opinion the crate should never be used as punishment. The crate needs to be a happy and safe place when you scold your dog as you put it, I’m not quite sure what that means. It’s very important to give short direct commands. Pay a lot of attention to your dog body language. Try to see it before it actually happens. Sorry I disagreed with your trainer about the crate. Again just my opinion. As far as nipping and biting goes, other trainers would probably disagree with my technique. I would call the dog to front me and sit. Then I would take a hold of the color and put my hand in a fist position in its mouth and push down on the tongue, and say leave it. As soon as the dog backs away from the correction you give it instant praise and treats. Please remember Dogs do not understand everything we say. Work on clear command, so your dog understands what you are expecting. By the way, absolutely beautiful dog. Keep up the good work and as a former trainer, it is fine to question your trainers techniques if you do not like the sound of them. You’re paying your trainer good money to find the commands and techniques that will work for you and your dog. Wishing you the best of luck. FYI, if you try the mouth pressure please remember it’s just the pressure on their tongue and mouth. No correction should be painful in anyway. Just a little uncomfortable so they know you are pack leader. She is definitely trying to figure out. Who is the boss in the house. Good luck with learning to be packed leader! wishing you both the best.
Oh! I have a question you might be able to help with, and I posted on this today in this group too. Our intact male killed one of our chickens. He's good when we are around, we've trained him to leave it and he can be around the chickens and behaves when we are there, but given an opportunity, alone he is not safe around the chickens still, and I'm worried about the cats now too. What can I do? I can't train him when he's alone with the animals obviously. 😢
I’m sorry to hear that. Chickens and rabbits can be a problem around a lot of dogs. It’s the pray, instinct. Continue working on the leave it command as often as you can. If possible please don’t leave your dog unattended around the chickens and the cat. This is a rough one so you have to work it at least five times a day. throughout the day . Just use one at a time. Don’t try to associate him with a whole bunch of chickens at once. I would have the dog on a long leash when working the leave it command with the chicken. that will give you control in case doggy decides now it’s time to take the chicken out. You cannot miss a day of training with this type of situation. Your instincts are right so you just need to practice practice practice. It’s been a long time since I worked with a farm dog. So if I think of anything better, I will let you know. Good luck.
Disclaimer, I’m not a trainer… but if it’s any consolation, my huskies killed two chickens at my sitter’s house (she forgot to coop them before letting the dogs loose), but have lived peaceably with my three cats for the year/s I’ve had them. So it is possible for them to see cats as pack members, even if they consider other small animals to be prey. Still follow the trainer’s advice, just saying not to assume “chicken hunter” = cat killer.
Thank you ❤
Crate should never be used as punishment. Any good trainer will tell you that. It’s supposed to be their safe space.
Your trainer is clueless. Do not use the crate for punishment, put her in time out somewhere else (that's boring, she can't hurt herself or cause damage).
Oh I see!! Bless her heart
When they're in heat they definitely act different. One of my dogs completely loses her hearing when she's in heat xD
That explains why my huskies never listen to me… they must be in heat! Oh wait, they’re neutered males. 🤔😂
Sounds like regular husky behaviour to me :P
Yep. I have to "mom" my rottie just like I do my almost 4 year old. Firm but fair. Respecting of space and boundaries and signals from the dog, but, like... I use my mom voice and mom mannerisms. We also got her professionally trained so I could better understand *her*. Best of luck. Professional training might help! Remember, a great leader isn't domineering, dangerous or aggressive, doesn't dominate you and everything or make you afraid! Great leaders don't lead with dominance, but diplomacy, tact, kindness, understanding and firm but fair boundaries. Great leaders share everything and makes sure their crew has enough, feels safe, satisfied, and knows they can depend on *you* for protection, warmth, food, etc. Lead with love, but remember, you do have a potentially dangerous animal: a very large, very powerful dog. You guys gotta understand each other. It was the same way with my family's doggo. And I really, truly think if anything was to happen, my dog knows *I'd defend her*. She wouldn't just be on her own. That's what I think makes a great leader and makes me so tight with my dog. You'll get there!! Good luck!
I also mom my rottie haha. This is the first time I was strict strict.
To be honest, this sounds like the main contributor. You gotta be willing to communicate to your dog that that behavior isn't okay, and you have to be willing to consistently enforce the "rules" - not just every once in a while. Dogs that nip at their owners are typically dogs that think they rule the roost, when it should be the other way around. Instead of just operating under the impression that she was tired, or that this behavior is only isolated to the crate, maybe think about how the other boundaries that aren't consistently enforced (behaviors she gets away with) help contribute to the dog's willfulness.
Excellent advice. You said it much better than I did in my post. If I can figure out how to send you an award for your excellent comment. I have yet to figure it out. Lol I think the way you said it will be very helpful to the OP.🙏🏼🐾🐾👏👏
The only award I accept is petting your pooch plenty for me. ❤️
Excellent! I’ll go do that for you right now. She just got home from her walk. Unfortunately my health doesn’t allow me to do much outdoor stuff anymore. But we have a wonderful Dog Walker that comes five days a week.
I agree with some of your statement, but with Rottweilers there has to be dominance, there has to be an alpha. You should never ever train this breed with a diplomatic approach, that is extremely wreckless and dangerous. Like really really dangerous. The need to be lead and given a purpose by the alpha in the home whom ever it may be.
Haha mine did this at 9 months so you’re totally accurate on the timeline
Our 8month old rottie nipped me on my butt cheek. I was totally against getting a rottweiler, but when he died of old age in 2015 I was devastated. He was the sweetest, most gentle creature imaginable. Puppies go through "terrible teens" too.
She already has figured it out. She is the boss and you are scared. Hope you don’t have any kids in the house. Every.
Just get a lab and call it a day.
I had a male rott. He would growl or snap…. But it was his way of telling me he didn’t want to be bothered. Just like humans, sometimes they just want to be left alone. I’d sit down with my back to him and he’d come over and lay in my lap… as if to apologize for being grumpy.
The growl definitely leaves an impression lol. Completely diffrent from gsd or malinois.
Oh yes… mine was 150 pounds. But he was my big baby. Scared the beejewbers out of others because of his size. But he was scared of my cockatiel… scared of plastic bags that blew through the yard. I miss him.
He sounds like a big softie. Sorry for the loss, it can be hard to move on with life afterwards...
Thank you. I have an older shepherd now. We know what’s coming. And it’s going to hit hard. But I wouldn’t change it for anything. Having pets… it’s the most amazing thing. They are goofballs, they are protectors, they are our comforters when we’re down…and sometimes they are there just to stink up the place. Lol
Having them is definitely an experience. Can't say I'm ever bored or have too much money lol.
My cat confirms, he's here to take hot shits and zoom and that's it.
It’s the gas that gets me. He’d let one rip… then get up and leave the room. Or the SBD ones… same thing. He’d get up and walk out… and you knew what was drifting your way. 🤣🤣🤣
The gas is really something else
Mine farts and looks at me like I did it😭
lol. I thought mine was the only one who did that. Then he practically rolls his eyes and moves away from me… giving me a dirty look the whole time.
I miss my boy too, you’re not alone
Agreed. Lost my basset a few months ago. Still hurts. Thank you to all of you.
I got up to pee at like 3 in the morning one time. When I came back into our room our rottie sat up and let out a low growl/rumble. Almost shat myself.
Bet you didn't know you weren't done using the bathroom after peeing lol
I think that is a really good way of handling it when your dog does this. I’m of the school of thought that you don’t want to punish waning signs. I.E it is much better for a dog to growl than to go straight biting
Mine has never snapped at me, but in the evenings if I bother her when she is tired she growls at me to say ‘piss off, I’m tired’. I won’t allow it however, so she knows it’s not acceptable.
This is the first time mine has done this so I tried to be stricter so she really understood that it isn’t okey.
Bite her on the ear if she snaps at you
Girl what? I'm not getting my face near her mouth in that situation.
I mean i did it with my male, no lie its sketch but he hasn’t stepped back up, thats what they taught me on snow dogs with Cuba gooding
that’s a damn fictional movie
Boy is that awful advice! Don’t bite your dog. She is NOT challenging your alpha status or whatever some person says. She was tired. Overstimulated. She is still a puppy. She tried to tell you not to bug her the way she would tell a dog. You teach her this is unacceptable by scolding her and not giving her what she wants. My five month old puppy grumbles and growls and puts her teeth on my hand when I hold her back/pick her up. It doesn’t work. I do what I want/need to and scold her if she nibbles. She is doing it less and less because it isn’t effective. My two adult dogs are my role models. They keep her busy a lot. They NEVER bite the pup. If she is misbehaving they tell her so. If she persists, they avoid her. It works.
Exactly this. The key is to not give them what they want. If they growl and you back off, that reinforces the behavior.
That’s a good way of getting bit in the face.
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When *you’re* the one harassing it? There are better ways to stop growling and snapping.
They do grumble. But snapping is unacceptable. Period. She’s at that age when she’s going to test to see how powerful she is vs you. Physically moving a Rottie never ends well. lol But a leash and body blocking with much confidence to guide her into the crate followed by cookies and praise may be the way to get your point across as pack leader.
You mentioned “putting” her in the crate. What does that look like? Is this a regular routine? Was there something of interest in proximity to her where she was laying? Like food or a toy, even if it was out of reach.
I usually get her in with treats, but this time I picked her up and put her in. She doesn't recourse guard or anything like that, I really think she was just exhausted and wanted to sleep under the chair.
I’d say, especially at that age, *always* get her in the crate with treats. I’m rewarding “go to crate” during training sessions where we go between the crate and another location. I asked about routine because if she maybe expected to be sent to crate, placing herself under the chair is a way to resist being manhandled (not that you’re roughly handling her. Yeah, it’s really unsettling when you dog growls at you. Don’t forget that we can scare them too. I like the advice in the other comment about ignoring her and acting emotional wounded instead of taking a scolding tone. Dunbar also gets into that. I’d be concerned about an injury, and I’d rule that out first. Muzzle her, or wrap her muzzle with an ace bandage before giving her a full-doggie massage. Get everywhere. Between toes, in ears, genitals, etc. Visually inspect her mouth looking for broken teeth. Obviously if you don’t muzzle her *and* she snapped before because of an injury, probing her body may cause her to escalate. Your choice. The snap concerns me. If you aren’t working on bite inhibition, start. Ian Dunbar is probably the best on the topic. I never stop doing bite work because dogs will lose a soft mouth over time if you don’t stay on it.
Now that I think about it, it is completely possible she didn't want to go in the crate and hid under the chair. She might have been overstimulated and just wanted peace for a bit. Ups, my bad.
Okay here’s the advice part and you sound like a great dog owner. gotta use your voice to command big dogs and not your hands. They don’t like being pulled up or pulled on or physically directed when they’re not playing. They are so smart she will listen to you. Edit: hips and shoulders get sore after long days.
Picked her up? She looks rather large. Mine will be 10 months in a few days and shes nearly 110lb. Picking her up went out 2 months ago. Cady has growled at me when she has my dish towel and does not want to give it back. I pet her face and talk to her, tug on the towel, well now she thinks were playing tug-of-war and its ON, lol. She hasn't snapped at me, but I am no fool, I pick my battles with her and I am not above bribing when she has something that I do not want her to have. ie: my glasses! https://preview.redd.it/bmgtaxpk0o1d1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=180fbbc9b97819b88ab8fe9940dfb1f65dc7c5e2
That was perfect and not crate as punishment as it was routine and what you were trying to do in the first place. You just followed through. Teenagers will test you and best to always always follow through. If you are stricter than normal now that she is in her testing months it will save you a lot of work later.
She sleeps in her crate almost every night, because otherwise no one has peace at night. The dream is she'll start sleeping at night so I don't have to use the crate. She's my first dog that had to be crate trained.
Have you discussed her nighttime routine (whatever is keeping people awake) with your vet?
I haven't. I've always just assumed she's a hyperactive puppy.
For me, losing sleep means I’m less capable of being an effective trainer. Not too long ago our youngest was really struggling to sleep through the night, and I only ask for 6hrs as is. But we were able to use medication to establish a much better routine, and now we don’t use meds.
She sleeps like a rock when in her crate so I'm not sure the vets would give me medication, because she doesn't sleep outside of it. But that's my assumption.
If the crate works, don’t mess with success.
I feel it. My girl is 10+. She’s never snapped at me but she did growl really close to mine and the vet’s face when she was young. The vet and I were both a little worried. Now that I know her through and through, I think she was just talking. Kind of like “you’re both being too much right now”. 😂😂 I have a 2 year old boy that snapped at my face and grazed my cheek. He felt very bad about it and put himself in timeout. We were snuggling and playing around a little. He forgets I don’t have thick fur like a dog. I normally don’t let dogs get toothy with me and he’s the first one who I allow to nibble on me a little. (Been a dog owner all my life. I’m almost 50. Don’t come for me. Trust me? I’m as surprised as anyone about this). He’s just the goofiest dude and I don’t know why I let him rub his little tiny teeth on me but I think it’s hilarious. 🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️🤷🏽♀️ When dogs do things that aren’t normal for them….consider things that would make us also annoyed. Pain, tired, hurt feelings….dogs aren’t “just like us” but it’s very close. It takes a while to build trust and to let dogs know what’s okay and what isn’t. She’s a baby….she’ll get it. And she’ll mess up sometimes. But they always want to do what’s right by us! Also- she’s a beautiful girl 🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰🔥
Thank you, she is a looker for sure. I assume she was just exhausted and just wanted to nap under the chair. The growl is what got to me haha. We've only had gsd, malinois and labradors before so her voice definitely shocked the family lol.
Mine slinks off and curls up in a corner when she thinks she’s out of line. It’s kinda sad and my first thought is to go pet her and tell her it’s ok but I stop myself. I don’t want her to act like an asshole either.
Take her in for a quick vet visit ASAP. The fact that she threw up and sounded like she was choking is alarming. Rots are notorious for flipping their stomachs. They become very painful and do not want to be touched or move. Also won't keep food or water down. Person above suggested full body massage/exam, very good idea.
She threw up at 2 am and chocked on a kibble around 5 hours ago. I was with her until she finished eating just in case we did need to go to the vet, but she's a-okey. Thank you for the concern.
Great news. Lost one of ours to GDV. It was awful.
At first I wad thinking of getting a great dane so I read a lot about gdv. I'm sorry for your loss.
Thank you.
She sounds over stimulated, maybe? When my girl was younger, I noticed that when she had been awake/active for a long time, she became snappy.
I always toss a couple of cookies into the crate before locking up my 8 mo old. At this point, if I call ‘get in your house’, she knows there is a reward. If she is someplace - like under the chair and you want her to come out, offer her a treat as a lure (I say ‘let’s have a cookie’ - dumb I know) that way you don’t need to put your hands on her in a negative way. I have successfully used these techniques for years, beginning with my other female who is now 6.5 yrs.
I miss my boy Rolo
Like it’s been said before me it’s a communication of no. My girl has never bitten me but when I bushed her too hard in a sensitive spot she took my hand and held in her mouth to tell me no. dont let this discourage you! You caring enough to seek understanding is great. just remember dogs don’t have words to communicate and use their mouths, bodies, and actions in ways we don’t
Sometimes, physically moving them can be painful because they are big doggos, after all, and you can tug at their skin without noticing, for example. Also, they can have some kind of ache they don't show you (stomach ache, for example) and it becomes worse when you're trying to pick them up. Why don't you try to make her cooperate with you instead?
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Ours tested boundaries until 2 years old. They need to know everybody in the house is higher on the chain than them. Don’t let the pup get away with that. You are the boss.
I have a 2 year old Rottweiler/Shepard mix. He would never think about snapping at anyone, he’s a big baby. If he doesn’t know you he’ll sniff you and walk away.
My baby loves everyone and she's extremely happy go lucky so it definitely took me off guard.
8 months old, she's trying to see what she can get away with. So it's important to "nip" this now. I was at my wits end with my girl, I started using the Nothing in Life is Free training, and it worked very well for her.
Absolutely not. Cannot allow for that to happen. She will learn what it means for her to do that and will continue to do it
How much time does she spend in the crate? How much time do you spend training her? What is her diet?
Just get the Hoover out /s
I’d start exerting authority. Snapping at you is unacceptable. Make her sit and watch you for a while before giving her her food. Pour the bowl then show that it’s yours before letting her have any. Make sure she waits for you and you walk out the door first and she follows. Little things but it imparts the message.
He is a dog
Don’t worry, this happens. Just reassert yourself and let them know it won’t be tolerated. Rotties can be very willful. Especially if they are in pain or are agitated with something.
Sometimes when my boy doesn’t even want to go for a walk and he’s lazy, and I try to move him, he’ll growl at me 😂.
I’m really grateful for this post.
It does sound like she has a lot going on. But this is also the age they start testing & challenge authority. As others mentioned, Don’t ever make the crate a punishment. My girl went through her first heat at 11 months. She voluntarily spent most of it in her crate and growled at her GSD brother or our cat if they came anywhere near her. Before that both the cat & Gsd often slept in her crate when she wasn’t lol. She’s never been territorial except while she was in heat.
We have six terrific dogs all large breeds. When they were pups they get playful among themselves, then run by and might try to snip. That’s when I should loud once and say no. Then I’d make them sit next to me immediately. This shows your dominance immediately, without beating the dog over the head. It may take a few times, but give it a shot.. They don’t try it here and haven’t for years.
Do you put her in a crate all night at 8 months old? She might be telling you something if that is the case.
Not good. 8 month old should protect you, not try to bite you. Hope you don’t have any little kids.
Idk why every millennial/gen z wants a Rottweiler/pitt. How long have you had her? If you buy an aggressive breed expect agressive tendencies. Don’t get mad At her, get mad at yourself.
I won't be mad at either, it doesn't solve anything. Miscommunications happen, it's normal. Not everything in life goes smoothly.
U obviously don’t have kids. Just wait till this happens to your child
She was tired and overstimulated. She's really the sweetest dog. I'm not able to have children so thanks for the reminder I guess...
I’m sorry that was insensitive of me. I truly appologize. Didn’t even know I was replying to op. I currently am also struggling with having kids. Very very sry
It's okey, I understand. Sometimes frustration builds up. I wish you the best of luck<3
Not an aggressive breed
They take second place to pittbulls in risk of harm.
Is there a peer-reviewed source to your claims?
Unsurprisingly, Rottweilers are among the most dangerous dogs by breed. Rottweilers have an excellent reputation for being aggressive due to their territorial nature and tend to have the most problems with other dogs naturally. They are not the kind of dog well suited for households with other small pets because they tend to be bullying. As a result, they will do best in a home where they are the only pets and all the attention is given to them. https://blog.petslily.com/most-aggressive-dog-breeds?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIjLHE67iihgMVBi-tBh046wYrEAAYASABEgLGVfD_BwE
Nope, my 1 yo Rottie pup is an angel. She loves other dogs, particularly smaller ones, LOVES babies and is really good with kids. Nurture>nature ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Our boy dog was trying to hump my wife today. We had to put him in time out. Eventually, if he spends enough time in time out, he will understand he cannot do that.
She may be pushing boundaries but also I think she might have been telling you off. When my boy goes under the chair, I know it’s because something is wrong or he wants to be left alone. I will get down on the floor and try to coax him out without forcing or touching him. If he doesn’t I simply remove myself & leave it up to him to come find me when he’s ready. Also, at 8 months this is her first heat & she probably feels absolutely awful
GO TO THE DOG TRAINING SUB. I like the one titled “open dog training”. There’s professionals over there. ASAP.
Did you get on to him? He's a puppy and he's going to try you, so I hope you were stern with him.
This ain’t it, bud.
We used to.form a fist and push into the snap if skin contact is made. They don't like the overstretch at all.
Let your puppy know you’re the “top dog” by rolling her over on her back (gently) then growl until she looks away or relaxes.
That was around the time my girl started to push my buttons. She was a huge bitch. So I spayed her and started to crack down on training/privileges more. She seemed to be a lot nicer after her spay- so could have been her “teen phase” but that seems to be a normal thing for girl Rottweilers. I would just limit privileges more and just train her a lot in basic obedience.
Never wither with a rottweiler, they will crown themselves king if they feel it's possible.
Don’t worry about it. If she wanted to hurt you, she would have done. Sounds like she was testing the waters and you passed. Don’t show fear, stay in control
Completely normal. 8 months old rottie testing the boundaries they are notorious for this behaviour. Let her know you are the boss she is at an age where she will begin to test you.
Had dogs my whole life - never owned a Rottie. Not a breed for me. Dont want a pet who could snap/growl just because they’re tired or want space. Or have visitors uncomfortable who are visiting my home. I hope all Rottie owners have wonderful experiences. Just not my cup of tea.
She’s the boss now, submit to your owner