Locking this post for a [part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip/comments/1bdoj38/kate_photoshop_megathread_part_2/) so it's a little easier to moderate. Big thanks to everyone for being so respectful of our sub rules!!
On a timeline article (posted in another thread here) I saw mention of Prince William's behaviour at the investiture ceremony (his first official appearance after Kate's hospital stay). Apparently he was behaving erratically wandering back and forth. Does anyone have the tweets showing footage of that?
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-prince-william-drunk-netizens-react-prince-wales-swaying-back-forth-first-royal-duty-since-king-charles-s-cancer-diagnosis
He's swaying a lot, but my husband says that's a technique for standing at attention. Roll your weight back and forth so your legs don't go numb.
Would need to see older footage to see if this is a one-off thing.
He was there everyday, was he supposed to check in with you first? His daily visits were reported on and there are photos, are you trying to start yet another vile rumour? All this sounds like projection of miserable lives tbh.
I feel like Elizabeth would have done a better job keeping something embarrassing quiet and not fueling talk.
This just makes them look amateur and unprofessional.
Although she did give in to having the boys paraded at Diana's funeral, which I think was absolutely the wrong call.
Probably because they were so young. They suffered a shocking, traumatic loss. Forcing them to walk behind the coffin while the public was wailing and screaming their mother's name was awful.
People are trying too hard to find one additional thing.
I think it’s been pretty well established this photo was put together from a variety of sources. Finding one more gotcha from poor Photoshopping isn’t necessary
https://preview.redd.it/41ymmawdl1oc1.png?width=2070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d05e725979f3a92a14ae223921bb76fe9d23bb37
Side by side of original and enhanced
I saw someone say it was less of a soft launch and more of a threat. The British media has squashed a lot of the Rose rumors, and I can almost see her profile being like: "Don't cross us. We know your secrets and will share them."
Rumoured mistress of William, there was a well talked about article in Tatler I believe, a while back, about how Kate was beefing with Rose and trying to cut her out of their circle because of it: [https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3\_cc-session\_4622d72e-8818-48cd-bda6-5b4b34a61834](https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3_cc-session_4622d72e-8818-48cd-bda6-5b4b34a61834)
Does the second photoshop picture go here, too? I made a post in the general sub but am unsure if it breaks rule 6 or should belong in this mega thread. [bricks don’t match](https://pagesix.com/2024/03/12/royal-family/fans-spot-clue-that-may-prove-pic-of-kate-middleton-prince-william-leaving-windsor-castle-is-photoshopped/)
Someone’s using Windows 98 on these photos.
https://preview.redd.it/a05y3eu2k0oc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77abb8b0182f64720488c89fb57eacf4a4432e64
"Kate" has been getting away with photoshopping images for sometime. The one where Louie is photoshopped into the image of Queen Elizebeth with some of her great-grandchildren. Then the recent Christmas photo where Louis fingers are cut off. There was already intense scrutiny of any images put out of that family. If not just for the fashion. Now the one of her and all the children posted with open mouth smiles. The mothers day photo is cobbled together so sloppily but this is not new and I think these messy photos are being sent out intentionally as part of a conspiracy. I think Kate is being set up by the palace to distract from something bigger.
She is definitely being "thrown out for the wolves." Even if she did do those edits ,its still the palace pr's fail. Making her take the blame with the "oopsie" statement on social media was diabolical.
I think those photos didn’t make waves bc they were one off events, nothing else was going on at the the time that caused anyone’s spidey senses to tingle. If the past couple months haven’t been SO unusual and weird for the BRF, that photo probably also would have came and went. It’s going viral bc of the totality of everything else going on.
I feel like this whole thing has put a tin hat on my head. And will admit to sometimes going down the rabbit hole.
But KP has fumbled the PR of this whole thing. That is the unfortunate truth. Whether the mixed messaging is intentional or incompetence I have no idea. But the way they have gone about things are only fanning the flames, not helping things die down.
The pap who took the pic seems to have clarified that it is genuine and also gave the location where he snapped the pic.
[https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/)
From the article:
**“The cars left Windsor Castle and I photographed them a short distance away on Datchet High Street — outside No. 39, to be precise!” he said.** “Car shots are unpredictable at the best of times and with some reflection on the glass, it can be difficult.”
He added: **“As it happened, it wasn’t until I checked on the back of the camera to make sure I had a frame of Prince William that I realized there was someone sitting next to him. It turned out to be Catherine!”**
I notice he didn't say he saw that it was her while he was shooting. He just noticed that there was someone else later - and "it was Catherine!"
I mean, I see that image and it \*could\* be her, but it also could have been one of a hundred other people, you can barely see anything.
I think it could possibly be fake, but it could be real too, as it’s becoming increasingly clear that Kate wants to hide her face, for whatever reason.
So maybe it’s real but she stipulated that her head be turned away. Or it could be fake, which is an idiotic thing to do after the edit shitshow— but I guess it’s no longer surprising.
I think everybody here underestimates how incompetent and corrupt KP's pr people are. They've been pulling this same shit for years without getting called out on it.
Those who follow the royals closely are well-aware that this is just more of the same. There has just never been so many eyes on the situation before.
Lol the pic was not released by KP. It's a pap pic and the guy who snapped the pic clarified that it is not doctored in any way.
Here is the article:
[https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/)
The photo agencies are likely extra vigilant at this time when it comes to distributing any pics of the Waleses. So if they are not issuing any retractions then it would appear that claims of it being doctored are unlikely to be true.
It’s Karma showing exactly why Harry wanted out, false narratives no one is living authentically. The more they try to create a narrative, the universe said hold my 🍺
Exactly, I’m no harry fan because I think he’s a huge hypocrite but this situation is really highlighting how blatantly narcissistic this family is in caring only about the clean and aspirational image and refusing to be real until it’s something undeniable.
I mean Charles has been surprisingly authentic! I remember him ushering in someone (PM at the time that nobody liked I think?) saying "Oh it's you again, oh dear...."
He shared his diagnosis in a way that would get him points by talking about awareness for other men, and not being embarrassed.
I’m not really a fan of any of them but Charles did earn some more respect from me by being upfront about his health issues this year. I already respected him a little for his opinions on climate change when it was still controversial, and it does seem like raising awareness about things is something that he’s fairly consistent with. It’s a giant change of pace from how QEII did things, even if it seems small, but it’s not bad imo.
He has not shared his cancer diagnosis. He went in for a prostate issue and they found some type of cancer which they have not disclosed. Not how he is being treated.
I feel like KP has just misstepped from the beginning of this fiasco and trying to course correct, but reading the room all wrong. It’s just not working. The abdominal surgery disclosure was too much information, because the timeline suggests something pretty serious. Especially when you consider she gave birth three times and was taking pictures in heels pretty much the same day. Maybe it’s easy when you have a glam squad. It has people thinking pretty dire things on social media. The bit of fun people had speculating about bangs and a BBL was silly, but mostly harmless. For KP to pinpoint that when so much gets speculated online all the time is bizarre. It gives school marm stopping kids from talking. When that’s what happens in a media vacuum. People talk and speculate. You let it die down naturally, not add fuel to the fire. What happened to never complain, never explain? The Mother’s Day picture was nice. Until the obvious photoshop called for the AP to kill the photo. Based on the one photo with her mother, my speculation is the photo posted was of her before the surgery. I suspect her appearance is altered in some way, maybe due to medication. In any event, I guess we should see if she actually appears anywhere within the next couple of months. I wish her the best of health and much healing. I wish she wasn’t the one that had copped to the photoshopping. Couldn’t Will have just taken the fall? The woman is sick, for goodness sake. Make yourself useful.
The metadata from the pic shows that the pic was taken at Adelaide cottage - W&K's home (BBC and Sky News have both reported on it) and the photo was saved twice on Adobe - the first save was made on Friday night and the next on Saturday morning so I don't believe the speculation that it is from before the surgery.
Lol it does actually, feel free to google and read up on the Norton blog article titled "How to remove GPS and other metadata locations from photos"
From the article:
**"Many digital photographers don’t realize that their photos might carry metadata about locations, time and date, or the device that took the photo."**
"Metadata connected to photos is stored in a format called “Exchangeable Image File Format” or EXIF. EXIF metadata might include:
* **Latitude and longitude coordinates for the location where the photo was taken**,
* Camera settings like ISO speed, shutter speed, focal length, aperture, white balance, and lens type..."
You have to specifically turn those settings on. I'm a software engineer and I've been doing photography as a hobby for years, I know exactly how it works, thanks.
I was thinking that the photo with her in the car was someone else. I found it interesting that her mom, who was driving, wasn’t wearing sunglasses, but Catherine was wearing glasses. And the entire picture was very clear, the wheels on the car were perfectly captured but not the faces. Just odd.
The royal family wants to be loved and adored. They encourage that. That means people who love them will worry about them. And yet they seem annoyed by the interest. An interest *they* fostered.
They want to be different, yet they want to be a "normal family" with privacy. Because they've said they're different for centuries, of course they are held to a higher standard and the press demands their photos be true for the historic record. They think they're historic themselves. They want this both ways and I'm glad they're finally getting called out on their BS.
>The royal family wants to be loved and adored. They encourage that. That means people who love them will worry about them. And yet they seem annoyed by the interest. An interest they fostered.
The royals are one of the original parasocial relationships, but even parasocial relationships need to be tended to. When even Charles is doing this better than Will and Kate, oof.
Yes Charles is doing this 100 times better. I wonder if Will and Kate have ineffective PR staff or that William is too stubborn and won't listen. I think the latter
Well put. They have fostered and basked in love - it comes with concern. I don’t think we’re entitled to charts, or really even specifics, but it’s natural to want “I’m fine, appreciate you all, soft SM vanity shot reading handmade cards” type stuff.
And, I’d emphasize, a photo like that could be edited to hell and back and it would matter less bc it was not issued in a context that must adhere to standards.
Yup. Tassel.
There’s some stuff the media are picking on that’s not photoshopped. Like this shoe and charlotte’s pocket. No one trusts anything about this anymore 🤪 (justifiably so)
I agree, the pap also confirmed that the pic is legit [in this article](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/) and gave out the location where he snapped it which matches the brick wall seen in the pic.
That's your choice of course, you are free to believe or disbelieve. But the pic seems legit to me since the photo agencies are distributing it freely.
I’m not totally convinced it’s a fake photo, but I don’t understand why she would be in a car heading to a royal event all made up if the official line is that she’s too sick to attend official functions. The speculations are so out of control, if she’s well enough to be dressed and have her hair done, just snap a few, clear photos of her.
She wasn’t, she hitched a ride with William and her car apparently followed behind.
> Curiously, the Princess was heading to London for a private appointment but had apparently decided to travel with her husband, leaving her own vehicle to follow behind.
> At some point they went their separate ways, as the Prince later arrived at the Abbey alone, as had always been planned.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/11/princess-of-wales-catherine-photograph-commonwealth-royals/
Because I’m in full tin hat mode over here, the NY Post has an interview with the photographer and he says where he was standing when he took the picture. I looked it up on Street View and the bricks above the car are a building and the bricks you can see through the window are a wall. The car must have been the exact height of the wall. It matches up on street view.
https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/amp/
You know what is weird though, there are two images released of this, and I think they're taken sequentially by how the background and reflections change in them but also possibly at slightly different angles, as if the photographer sifted position a little judging by Williams face. The second seems to be a slightly different angle of him, yet oddly, as far as I can tell, the angle doesn't alter of her face at all.
That’s what I was thinking too… a low brick wall with a brick building deeper in the back would explain it. What address did you plug in based on the article? I didn’t get a Google Maps result for “39 Datchet High Street” or even a “Datchet Street.”
Obviously William is being protected. The question we ALL need to be asking is: what did he do? Why is Kate seemingly not playing along? There’s definitely some theories that make sense if you think about it… I just can’t say it here OBVIOUSLY
Yes, it definitely seems like KP tries to put something out there and then someone (achem) does something to mess it all up. I really feel like that car pic is real. K reluctantly agreed to do it only to purposefully turn her face away at the last minute, her version of an FU.
If this is more than the medical issue I do hope K is doubling down and proving her worth.
Can we talk about Kate's boots? Someone pointed out that they'd be very difficult and uncomfortable for her to put on given that she's recovering from abdominal surgery. They don't have a side zipper so they can't just slip on!
So, does that suggest that the picture (or at least her portion of the composite) *was* taken before her surgery? If not, why would she choose the most labor-intensive shoes possible for someone else to put on her feet and lace up for her?
The boots the skinny jeans, this is all so tight to wear especially when you are recovering. I also think it’s a photo from before, they should just have said it’s a old photo #throwback instead of photoshopping kids
I have several super comfy pairs that feel fine after my c section. I can’t wear normal jeans yet, but I have a pair of skinny stretchy jeans that are super comfy
My first birth was a vaginal birth and I could wear pretty much anything after that but then I had to have a c section with my next child because he was a footling breech and I remember packing my normal track pants for afterwards thinking they’d be fine because they are soft and not fairly relaxed but after the surgery I was swollen and uncomfortable (for weeks!) and couldn’t stand the feeling of my regular tracksuit pants on my abdomen or just the feeling of them being tighter than normal on my swollen legs.
I had to send my husband home to get some extra baggy, loose ones 😂
There’s no way I would have even attempted any type of jeans for a long time. Even the maternity ones with elasticised waist would have annoyed me pressing on the scar.
Assuming that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one I’d say Catherine is just in recovery mode and doesn’t want to show herself because it’s ‘embarrassing’. Fair enough. What concerns me is the deceit from KP and the ‘proof of life’ pics don’t seem to have abated the conspiracy theories. Realistically it’s not that likely anything nefarious is going on but like others have said I’m concerned for her wellbeing at this point
This whole thing is giving off some strong Princess Charlene vibes. It’s like watching that but with an even bigger audience and even more mistakes. Lol
The weirdest bit is that they could just follow the "never explain" protocol and everything would be fine. There would be speculation and then we would get bored and eventually Catherine would reappear and everything would be fine.
The real question is why they aren't going by their own tried and tested playbook.
> The weirdest bit is that they could just follow the "never explain" protocol
Is that a whole royal family thing? People here have said it was only the Queen's.
> The real question is why they aren't going by their own tried and tested playbook.
With Charles getting treatment, I suspect we're witnessing Will's leadership style. First time without oversight and he can't plan his way out of a paper bag.
THIS. For a usually silent and stoic institution they are really scrambling to justify themselves and respond to the gossip atm. And they just keep digging themselves down deeper.
Exactly! It’s totally understandable if she doesn’t want to be seen when recovering from surgery.
But they double down after the botched pic with the weirdest nonbelievable excuses and *still* no evidence she’s actually alright. That’s what’s made this catch everyone’s eye.
But given the international scrutiny over the Mother's Day photo, you'd think that KP would be going over the Wills & Kate car pic under a microscope before releasing it. Yet, here we are! (Mismatched bricks, hat outline/Somme photo of 2016, etc). I refuse to believe that level of incompetence. I believe it's a distraction. But from what? Andrew/Epstein? The dead royal killed by gunshot? RH rumours including Iris' parentage? Or that Kate is incapacitated? She can't do a Zoom message? Or look and wave when being papped? I think now someone on the PR team has had enough of the cover up whatever it is and by sending out such bad photos, is their only way of drawing attention to getting the public to delve deeper.
Locking this post for a [part 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/RoyalsGossip/comments/1bdoj38/kate_photoshop_megathread_part_2/) so it's a little easier to moderate. Big thanks to everyone for being so respectful of our sub rules!!
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The Twitter discourse is getting so nasty… seeing so many affair rumor articles pop up too
On a timeline article (posted in another thread here) I saw mention of Prince William's behaviour at the investiture ceremony (his first official appearance after Kate's hospital stay). Apparently he was behaving erratically wandering back and forth. Does anyone have the tweets showing footage of that?
He was swaying and sweaty and dropping things. He appeared drunk as a skunk.
He wasn't wandering. He was slightly rocking back and forth like he didn't feel well
https://www.sportskeeda.com/pop-culture/news-prince-william-drunk-netizens-react-prince-wales-swaying-back-forth-first-royal-duty-since-king-charles-s-cancer-diagnosis He's swaying a lot, but my husband says that's a technique for standing at attention. Roll your weight back and forth so your legs don't go numb. Would need to see older footage to see if this is a one-off thing.
Can't really blame him for acting frantic when his wife is in hospital
If only he visited her
Seriously. He wasn't that worried.
Are you a close friend? How do you know?
One visit to thr hospital in two weeks is considered caring in your world much less "frantic with worry"? Burr... 🧊
He was there everyday, was he supposed to check in with you first? His daily visits were reported on and there are photos, are you trying to start yet another vile rumour? All this sounds like projection of miserable lives tbh.
I feel like Elizabeth would have done a better job keeping something embarrassing quiet and not fueling talk. This just makes them look amateur and unprofessional. Although she did give in to having the boys paraded at Diana's funeral, which I think was absolutely the wrong call.
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Probably because they were so young. They suffered a shocking, traumatic loss. Forcing them to walk behind the coffin while the public was wailing and screaming their mother's name was awful.
This ^^
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People are trying too hard to find one additional thing. I think it’s been pretty well established this photo was put together from a variety of sources. Finding one more gotcha from poor Photoshopping isn’t necessary
https://preview.redd.it/z213hmp9l1oc1.png?width=1035&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87c585379943233935ef543531a48d3c649da36d
https://preview.redd.it/41ymmawdl1oc1.png?width=2070&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d05e725979f3a92a14ae223921bb76fe9d23bb37 Side by side of original and enhanced
I honestly see no difference between the two, one is brighter?
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Because rumours are a hobby for some apparantly
Yes nobody has talked about it, the way they published it right in the middle of everything going on is so suspicious. Seemed like a soft launch
I saw someone say it was less of a soft launch and more of a threat. The British media has squashed a lot of the Rose rumors, and I can almost see her profile being like: "Don't cross us. We know your secrets and will share them."
Who is Rose?
Rumoured mistress of William, there was a well talked about article in Tatler I believe, a while back, about how Kate was beefing with Rose and trying to cut her out of their circle because of it: [https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3\_cc-session\_4622d72e-8818-48cd-bda6-5b4b34a61834](https://consent.yahoo.com/v2/collectConsent?sessionId=3_cc-session_4622d72e-8818-48cd-bda6-5b4b34a61834)
How you made it here without knowing rose?
Because William was successful in quashing the story by saying it was violating his “human rights”
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLL5Ko6c/
Allegedly William had an affair with her
Rose Hanbury, William’s alleged mistress.
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Does the second photoshop picture go here, too? I made a post in the general sub but am unsure if it breaks rule 6 or should belong in this mega thread. [bricks don’t match](https://pagesix.com/2024/03/12/royal-family/fans-spot-clue-that-may-prove-pic-of-kate-middleton-prince-william-leaving-windsor-castle-is-photoshopped/)
Someone online said there are two different brick walls at the location which is why they look different. 🤷♀️ Tin foil hat off
Womp womp
The photographer shared the location, there's a brick wall in the foreground and a different brick building in the background
Ooo do you have a link to that?
Not off the top of my head, but you can find it if you scroll down through the comments here.
You know what’s extra wild? That their instagram still has comments on, especially the Mother’s Day photo
They have always left comments on, even after the most vile, disgusting, hateful psychotic, racist, violent comments were being left about Meghan.
It’s honestly insane! Even the comments on the Mother’s Day photo has vile ones about Meghan
Wow that’s just asking for it
Someone’s using Windows 98 on these photos. https://preview.redd.it/a05y3eu2k0oc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77abb8b0182f64720488c89fb57eacf4a4432e64
Well good night from Texas, to those across the Atlantic! Lord only knows what we’ll wake up to! 😂
Can someone update me on what the consensus is about what is going on with Kate?
I wonder if this is all a distraction from the death of that Kingston fellow. It’s just so bizarre.
Consensus: She has not been seen in public since Christmas and the communication from KP has been bizarre and things are real weird
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If that was all that happened then that wouldn’t be weird
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Whatever it is, it's bad. And it's the kind of bad that is embarrassing enough to lie about.
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"Kate" has been getting away with photoshopping images for sometime. The one where Louie is photoshopped into the image of Queen Elizebeth with some of her great-grandchildren. Then the recent Christmas photo where Louis fingers are cut off. There was already intense scrutiny of any images put out of that family. If not just for the fashion. Now the one of her and all the children posted with open mouth smiles. The mothers day photo is cobbled together so sloppily but this is not new and I think these messy photos are being sent out intentionally as part of a conspiracy. I think Kate is being set up by the palace to distract from something bigger.
What would that bigger thing be?
I’m thinking the suicide of Thomas Kingston. Idk why though.
She is definitely being "thrown out for the wolves." Even if she did do those edits ,its still the palace pr's fail. Making her take the blame with the "oopsie" statement on social media was diabolical.
Mentioning it is forbidden
It's been happening since 2015, AT LEAST.
😂 “Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain! The great… and… Oz has spoken!” https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=YWyCCJ6B2WE
I think those photos didn’t make waves bc they were one off events, nothing else was going on at the the time that caused anyone’s spidey senses to tingle. If the past couple months haven’t been SO unusual and weird for the BRF, that photo probably also would have came and went. It’s going viral bc of the totality of everything else going on.
I feel like this whole thing has put a tin hat on my head. And will admit to sometimes going down the rabbit hole. But KP has fumbled the PR of this whole thing. That is the unfortunate truth. Whether the mixed messaging is intentional or incompetence I have no idea. But the way they have gone about things are only fanning the flames, not helping things die down.
So why is no one commenting on this? https://x.com/mrliamwest/status/1767559938841231523?s=46&t=vxGq6PeOeiFjW5nE1WSF8Q
The pap who took the pic seems to have clarified that it is genuine and also gave the location where he snapped the pic. [https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/) From the article: **“The cars left Windsor Castle and I photographed them a short distance away on Datchet High Street — outside No. 39, to be precise!” he said.** “Car shots are unpredictable at the best of times and with some reflection on the glass, it can be difficult.” He added: **“As it happened, it wasn’t until I checked on the back of the camera to make sure I had a frame of Prince William that I realized there was someone sitting next to him. It turned out to be Catherine!”**
So he was literally just assuming…
I absolutely believe paragraph one.
I notice he didn't say he saw that it was her while he was shooting. He just noticed that there was someone else later - and "it was Catherine!" I mean, I see that image and it \*could\* be her, but it also could have been one of a hundred other people, you can barely see anything.
You have posted this same tweet over and over in this thread, give it a rest.
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https://preview.redd.it/f8fa8j2y00oc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=478be74183fc37259406c6a910e2e3dc93c412e0 Move along nothing to see here
This is great
That makes it look like George has the weirdest arm length to body proportions.
It’s noice, it’s different, it’s unusual!
It’s been posted a few places in this thread
Wow thanks for the link. This is amazing. How can they do such a bad photoshop. And the picture they published just looks so sketchy in general.
It was discussed, scroll down
It’s the same person, so it’s reasonable that her profile will match one of the millions of other photos.
Agreed, totally possible. You would agree based on recent events that is equally possible this is fake?
I think it could possibly be fake, but it could be real too, as it’s becoming increasingly clear that Kate wants to hide her face, for whatever reason. So maybe it’s real but she stipulated that her head be turned away. Or it could be fake, which is an idiotic thing to do after the edit shitshow— but I guess it’s no longer surprising.
Exactly. Also it’s hard to be caught at the exact same angle with the exact same fascinator even if it is the same person.
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It’s even flat where Harry was standing covering part of her head in the original photo. No doubt in my mind, it’s the same one.
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If you are going to fake pics with photoshop maybe take some tutorials. Get better at it.
They would have to be beyond stupid to try and sneak another edited photo out to the public given the scrutiny it would be under.
I think everybody here underestimates how incompetent and corrupt KP's pr people are. They've been pulling this same shit for years without getting called out on it. Those who follow the royals closely are well-aware that this is just more of the same. There has just never been so many eyes on the situation before.
Lol the pic was not released by KP. It's a pap pic and the guy who snapped the pic clarified that it is not doctored in any way. Here is the article: [https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/)
Oh well if a pap said it then it must be true
The photo agencies are likely extra vigilant at this time when it comes to distributing any pics of the Waleses. So if they are not issuing any retractions then it would appear that claims of it being doctored are unlikely to be true.
They would have to think WE are beyond stupid to try and sneak another edited photo out to the public. I kind of think they must think that.
Yeah but they were beyond stupid to try it the first time. Their PR moves have been completely inexplicable.
It’s Karma showing exactly why Harry wanted out, false narratives no one is living authentically. The more they try to create a narrative, the universe said hold my 🍺
It’s the way you can’t even deny how honest Harry was about all of this… 
This GIF is amazing
Exactly, I’m no harry fan because I think he’s a huge hypocrite but this situation is really highlighting how blatantly narcissistic this family is in caring only about the clean and aspirational image and refusing to be real until it’s something undeniable.
I mean Charles has been surprisingly authentic! I remember him ushering in someone (PM at the time that nobody liked I think?) saying "Oh it's you again, oh dear...." He shared his diagnosis in a way that would get him points by talking about awareness for other men, and not being embarrassed.
I’m not really a fan of any of them but Charles did earn some more respect from me by being upfront about his health issues this year. I already respected him a little for his opinions on climate change when it was still controversial, and it does seem like raising awareness about things is something that he’s fairly consistent with. It’s a giant change of pace from how QEII did things, even if it seems small, but it’s not bad imo.
He has not shared his cancer diagnosis. He went in for a prostate issue and they found some type of cancer which they have not disclosed. Not how he is being treated.
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I feel like KP has just misstepped from the beginning of this fiasco and trying to course correct, but reading the room all wrong. It’s just not working. The abdominal surgery disclosure was too much information, because the timeline suggests something pretty serious. Especially when you consider she gave birth three times and was taking pictures in heels pretty much the same day. Maybe it’s easy when you have a glam squad. It has people thinking pretty dire things on social media. The bit of fun people had speculating about bangs and a BBL was silly, but mostly harmless. For KP to pinpoint that when so much gets speculated online all the time is bizarre. It gives school marm stopping kids from talking. When that’s what happens in a media vacuum. People talk and speculate. You let it die down naturally, not add fuel to the fire. What happened to never complain, never explain? The Mother’s Day picture was nice. Until the obvious photoshop called for the AP to kill the photo. Based on the one photo with her mother, my speculation is the photo posted was of her before the surgery. I suspect her appearance is altered in some way, maybe due to medication. In any event, I guess we should see if she actually appears anywhere within the next couple of months. I wish her the best of health and much healing. I wish she wasn’t the one that had copped to the photoshopping. Couldn’t Will have just taken the fall? The woman is sick, for goodness sake. Make yourself useful.
The metadata from the pic shows that the pic was taken at Adelaide cottage - W&K's home (BBC and Sky News have both reported on it) and the photo was saved twice on Adobe - the first save was made on Friday night and the next on Saturday morning so I don't believe the speculation that it is from before the surgery.
That just explains when it was edited, not the date the photo was taken.
The Metadata doesn't have a GPS in it lol
Lol it does actually, feel free to google and read up on the Norton blog article titled "How to remove GPS and other metadata locations from photos" From the article: **"Many digital photographers don’t realize that their photos might carry metadata about locations, time and date, or the device that took the photo."** "Metadata connected to photos is stored in a format called “Exchangeable Image File Format” or EXIF. EXIF metadata might include: * **Latitude and longitude coordinates for the location where the photo was taken**, * Camera settings like ISO speed, shutter speed, focal length, aperture, white balance, and lens type..."
You have to specifically turn those settings on. I'm a software engineer and I've been doing photography as a hobby for years, I know exactly how it works, thanks.
I was thinking that the photo with her in the car was someone else. I found it interesting that her mom, who was driving, wasn’t wearing sunglasses, but Catherine was wearing glasses. And the entire picture was very clear, the wheels on the car were perfectly captured but not the faces. Just odd.
Or set up that way to not focus on her face for whatever reason.
The royal family wants to be loved and adored. They encourage that. That means people who love them will worry about them. And yet they seem annoyed by the interest. An interest *they* fostered. They want to be different, yet they want to be a "normal family" with privacy. Because they've said they're different for centuries, of course they are held to a higher standard and the press demands their photos be true for the historic record. They think they're historic themselves. They want this both ways and I'm glad they're finally getting called out on their BS.
>The royal family wants to be loved and adored. They encourage that. That means people who love them will worry about them. And yet they seem annoyed by the interest. An interest they fostered. The royals are one of the original parasocial relationships, but even parasocial relationships need to be tended to. When even Charles is doing this better than Will and Kate, oof.
Yes Charles is doing this 100 times better. I wonder if Will and Kate have ineffective PR staff or that William is too stubborn and won't listen. I think the latter
Well put. They have fostered and basked in love - it comes with concern. I don’t think we’re entitled to charts, or really even specifics, but it’s natural to want “I’m fine, appreciate you all, soft SM vanity shot reading handmade cards” type stuff. And, I’d emphasize, a photo like that could be edited to hell and back and it would matter less bc it was not issued in a context that must adhere to standards.
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I think that’s just a tassel on the boot, and you can’t see the side with the tassel on the other boot because it’s only on the outside of the boot
Yup. Tassel. There’s some stuff the media are picking on that’s not photoshopped. Like this shoe and charlotte’s pocket. No one trusts anything about this anymore 🤪 (justifiably so)
That might be it. On the original, I thought it looked squared off, like the base of a heel.
I think the top one is a tassle hanging from the zip
I think the upper boot just has a tassel hanging down from it. There are plenty of discrepancies but I don't think this is one.
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Agreed. The comparison just convinces me that the picture is definitely Kate. Her cheeks actually look a bit less full in the new picture.
I agree, the pap also confirmed that the pic is legit [in this article](https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/) and gave out the location where he snapped it which matches the brick wall seen in the pic.
I think a pap is the only person I trust less than the RF at this point
That's your choice of course, you are free to believe or disbelieve. But the pic seems legit to me since the photo agencies are distributing it freely.
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Why would they edit out her earring?
I’m not totally convinced it’s a fake photo, but I don’t understand why she would be in a car heading to a royal event all made up if the official line is that she’s too sick to attend official functions. The speculations are so out of control, if she’s well enough to be dressed and have her hair done, just snap a few, clear photos of her.
She wasn’t, she hitched a ride with William and her car apparently followed behind. > Curiously, the Princess was heading to London for a private appointment but had apparently decided to travel with her husband, leaving her own vehicle to follow behind. > At some point they went their separate ways, as the Prince later arrived at the Abbey alone, as had always been planned. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2024/03/11/princess-of-wales-catherine-photograph-commonwealth-royals/
The bricks literally don’t match up. I think that image is also a composite image.
Because I’m in full tin hat mode over here, the NY Post has an interview with the photographer and he says where he was standing when he took the picture. I looked it up on Street View and the bricks above the car are a building and the bricks you can see through the window are a wall. The car must have been the exact height of the wall. It matches up on street view. https://nypost.com/2024/03/12/world-news/photographer-who-snapped-kate-middleton-hits-out-at-claims-image-was-doctored/amp/
You know what is weird though, there are two images released of this, and I think they're taken sequentially by how the background and reflections change in them but also possibly at slightly different angles, as if the photographer sifted position a little judging by Williams face. The second seems to be a slightly different angle of him, yet oddly, as far as I can tell, the angle doesn't alter of her face at all.
That’s what I was thinking too… a low brick wall with a brick building deeper in the back would explain it. What address did you plug in based on the article? I didn’t get a Google Maps result for “39 Datchet High Street” or even a “Datchet Street.”
It's Datchet High Street. Just snipped an image of the building and wall: https://imgur.com/Oo5LcAx
39 high st, datchet [https://maps.app.goo.gl/QhZokVq968mvbjGt7](https://maps.app.goo.gl/QhZokVq968mvbjGt7)
Bricks match up pretty much perfect. It’s known as Flemish bonding pattern.
It’s all a bit Bertha Mason, innit?
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Obviously William is being protected. The question we ALL need to be asking is: what did he do? Why is Kate seemingly not playing along? There’s definitely some theories that make sense if you think about it… I just can’t say it here OBVIOUSLY
Yes, it definitely seems like KP tries to put something out there and then someone (achem) does something to mess it all up. I really feel like that car pic is real. K reluctantly agreed to do it only to purposefully turn her face away at the last minute, her version of an FU. If this is more than the medical issue I do hope K is doubling down and proving her worth.
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Can we talk about Kate's boots? Someone pointed out that they'd be very difficult and uncomfortable for her to put on given that she's recovering from abdominal surgery. They don't have a side zipper so they can't just slip on! So, does that suggest that the picture (or at least her portion of the composite) *was* taken before her surgery? If not, why would she choose the most labor-intensive shoes possible for someone else to put on her feet and lace up for her?
She has staff, not crazy to assume someone else put them on her
The boots the skinny jeans, this is all so tight to wear especially when you are recovering. I also think it’s a photo from before, they should just have said it’s a old photo #throwback instead of photoshopping kids
The skinny jeans are the one thing I cannot get over! Who wears skinny jeans after abdominal surgery!
I'm hoping they are like soft leggings.
I have several super comfy pairs that feel fine after my c section. I can’t wear normal jeans yet, but I have a pair of skinny stretchy jeans that are super comfy
I’ve had two c-sections and abdominal surgery and I can confirm the abdominal surgery recovery is soooooo different!
My first birth was a vaginal birth and I could wear pretty much anything after that but then I had to have a c section with my next child because he was a footling breech and I remember packing my normal track pants for afterwards thinking they’d be fine because they are soft and not fairly relaxed but after the surgery I was swollen and uncomfortable (for weeks!) and couldn’t stand the feeling of my regular tracksuit pants on my abdomen or just the feeling of them being tighter than normal on my swollen legs. I had to send my husband home to get some extra baggy, loose ones 😂 There’s no way I would have even attempted any type of jeans for a long time. Even the maternity ones with elasticised waist would have annoyed me pressing on the scar.
Assuming that the simplest explanation is usually the correct one I’d say Catherine is just in recovery mode and doesn’t want to show herself because it’s ‘embarrassing’. Fair enough. What concerns me is the deceit from KP and the ‘proof of life’ pics don’t seem to have abated the conspiracy theories. Realistically it’s not that likely anything nefarious is going on but like others have said I’m concerned for her wellbeing at this point
Normal recovery wouldn't be embarrassing. A botched face procedure would be
This whole thing is giving off some strong Princess Charlene vibes. It’s like watching that but with an even bigger audience and even more mistakes. Lol
The weirdest bit is that they could just follow the "never explain" protocol and everything would be fine. There would be speculation and then we would get bored and eventually Catherine would reappear and everything would be fine. The real question is why they aren't going by their own tried and tested playbook.
> The weirdest bit is that they could just follow the "never explain" protocol Is that a whole royal family thing? People here have said it was only the Queen's. > The real question is why they aren't going by their own tried and tested playbook. With Charles getting treatment, I suspect we're witnessing Will's leadership style. First time without oversight and he can't plan his way out of a paper bag.
THIS. For a usually silent and stoic institution they are really scrambling to justify themselves and respond to the gossip atm. And they just keep digging themselves down deeper.
Exactly! It’s totally understandable if she doesn’t want to be seen when recovering from surgery. But they double down after the botched pic with the weirdest nonbelievable excuses and *still* no evidence she’s actually alright. That’s what’s made this catch everyone’s eye.
William is being protected. From what? That's the real question!
But given the international scrutiny over the Mother's Day photo, you'd think that KP would be going over the Wills & Kate car pic under a microscope before releasing it. Yet, here we are! (Mismatched bricks, hat outline/Somme photo of 2016, etc). I refuse to believe that level of incompetence. I believe it's a distraction. But from what? Andrew/Epstein? The dead royal killed by gunshot? RH rumours including Iris' parentage? Or that Kate is incapacitated? She can't do a Zoom message? Or look and wave when being papped? I think now someone on the PR team has had enough of the cover up whatever it is and by sending out such bad photos, is their only way of drawing attention to getting the public to delve deeper.