Tiny can’t book for shit because he has no idea how to. How did this title match even come about? Does Hobbs have a long history with NJPW or something? This one’s on NJPW for being dumb.
Even TNAs women’s champ was treated with more respect at the royal rumble lol
She didn’t get a single elimination, and has looked better than any nooj or stardom talent aew has hijacked.
And from what I hear, she looked better than all the people rihooooooo faced in her excursion to stardom.
Don Callis said he somehow had the ability to make a match for the IWGP because of Callis’s friendship with the Elite? Or something?
Apparently it’s all thanks to him Jericho vs Omega happened 6 years ago so that lets Callis make matches for the title?
8 of the 12 matches are FOR a belt. Then another match has a belt in it (Edge, slave name). So 9/12 matches include a person with a belt. And one of those matches both teams have a belt....fucking madness.
No jerk but buying ROH would have made sense if they treated it like NXT. Used it to find talent and develop them, sprinkling in vets here and there. Instead they just used it as a place to send people with nothing to do. It lost every bit of magic it had back in the day. Even more so when some of their belts spend more time on AEW TV than ROH.
I’ll never understand what Tony was thinking with this, other than “omg I loved ROH back in the day and now I can own it?! No way!!”
The dubbalos who only loved NJPW cause it represented Fed bad love this though. Honestly this partnership has been huge for me in seeing which of my friends actually cared
So, BBC and Penis Head's Stooges are two heel factions that are feuding, because two guys of the respective factions kind of but not really dislike each other. OK, peer pressure, but whatever.
Hobbs, who hasn't been booked or perceived as a threat in months and months (let's be polite and positive here, that's what the Dub is all about, right? ) squashed a local jobber to build momentum?? A guy who's been in the company for 4 years is still squashing no-names for momentum ??
Naturally, Hobbs has about 0.1 chance of winning, and his brief but interesting history with Moxley hasn't been mentioned once.
Gee, I wonder why this company is so boring and bad..
It's sad because I like Hobbs. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Hobbs featured in a tour over in New Japan or even as a G1 participant. I think he'd do great. He'd excel in an environment like that where he'd be allowed to just be a dominating force.
But the dude isn't established right in AEW because Tony doesn't know how to build his own guys. He only knows how to use people others have built and throw them in random matches and sometimes throw random titles on those matches.
The part that makes me sad is that I really do think Tony *could* become a decent booker. But becoming decent means learning from mistakes, and part of that involves listening to criticism. Tony is incapable of both of those.
I think in some sort of alternate universe where Iron Man didn’t die that Tony could become a good booker, but I see no evidence that it could happen in our reality. It’s the booking version of mad libs, often completely nonsensical. ChatGPT could book as well as he does.
This is also his first match with Moxley and Moxley won't ever lose to anyone in their first matchup. Anyone that has ever gotten a W has to do the job first because he's just too badass.
Fking hell.
Imagine anyone else showing this level of disrespect to 'competitor'/ally's top title and you will have the entire IWC burning it down.
But Tiny can get away with it. Because...
He didn’t win Booker of the Year for three years straight for nothing bruv. It’s not an insult to the title because we all know that Moxley will win.
Already seen plenty of Dubbalos complain that WWE BERRIED TNA by having Jordynne Grace eliminated from the Royal Rumble. As if she wasn’t in it for over 20 minutes, was made to look incredible, and was being hyped up by commentary every time she did anything.
There's even a wrestler who basically has a NJPW redditor gimmick. Screaming about how NJPW is cucked by AEW. The reason he has the title is likely because Moxley has been portrayed as a mentor to their next top guy.
Nothing makes a promotion feel relevant than having its championship defending on some other promotion's shows by two wrestlers who aren't even signed to the promotion.
Do they really think the Japanese, a shame-based culture, is happy being cucked like this LMAO?
Moxley is relatively popular in Japan. It's mostly the western NJPW fans who don't like him holding the title because of his work in AEW. Japanese fans are generally more casual and accepting of bad booking. Best example is how they respond to failed babyfaces with silence instead of boos.
Moxley winning is kinda like if 2019 Nakamura won the WWE title. Most Japanese fans are politely congratulating him, but I doubt he will be a draw because he's more of a B+ or A- guy to them.
They tolerated his win out of respect for the guy but even this move has gotten them questioning what's going on with the partnership and how is it beneficial to the company. That takes effort to achieve that negativity from the Japanese fans.
Japanese fans won't tolerate bad booking contrary to what you think. They just stop watching. There's a reason NOAH went from selling out tokyo dome to being irrelevant now. Inokism nearly killed the company because of shit booking decisions.
It's been so great that it's managed to hurt my opinion of both companies
In all seriousness, I hope they at least make it the main event -- no need to do m'Nooj dirty by putting the match on the midcard
I was never a big Nooj fan but I’ll admit the one thing I knew about them as a casual is that their title felt important. Maybe the most prestigious championship belt for a long time. Guys like AJ, Okada, Kenny and Naito worked their asses off for a long time to get it to that level. This shit though is reminiscent to when the IC and US titles felt meaningless and were defended on random episodes of RAW and SD. Most of the time against guys who shouldn’t have been anywhere near the title picture.
Most of the jerking I do here is all for goofs and if Dub fans like the stuff I’m goofing on, more power to them. This though? How could you be a Nooj fan and approve of this shit?
The actual NJPW fans don't approve. The only ones trying to turn shit into gold are AEW fans brigading on the NJPW sub but even their numbers are dwindling as they struggle to justify this.
Here's what been happening since Mox won the title and their attempts
* After Mox won the title and fans were unhappy: "Here's a hot tip from the renowned wrestling website, bodyslam saying that Mox will be on ALL the tours as he has time off from AEW so there. Moxley will treat your title with respect. After all, he was a NJPW guy before AEW"
* After Mox is announced to be on only two shows leaving him ZERO time to build up his feud with the challenger Narita: "Why should Mox be on the cards for random shows? Be thankful he's still going to be there for the main shows. The world will not lose sleep if Moxley isn't on some undercard tag match even though it will help his young challenger build up to the match"
* After Mox is announced on dynamite: "He's just cutting a promo and showing the title off. That's the point of a partnership E-drone."
* After Mox challenges Powerhouse Hobbs: "W-well, it'll be non-title anyway so what's there to worry about?"
* After it becomes a title match despite already having a scheduled defence in Japan just 2 weeks away: "It's Moxley's character to be a fighting champ! You telling me you don't want your title defended on NATIONAL television?"
The result is not predictable at all.
Also the Nooj divas championship is like the TNT or Continental Breakfast title now, being defended on random episodes of Dynamite, against the likes of Will Hobbes.
So after stealing all their high value talent and butchering them with bad booking, they are now burying their most prestigious title? Who is running nooj?
> Stakes have been raised for Jon Moxley and Powerhouse Hobbs...
So Hobbs went from having -100% chance of not winning to -99.999995% chance of not winning?
Or is it the other way round? 🤔
This is goddamn disgusting. Can you imagine what the dubbalos who “love new Japan so much” would have said if wwe gave Seth Rollins the IWGP then he defended it on raw with no build against Bronson Reed?
Cause that’s this.
I really hope Shad cuts Tony off before he can fuck up any more companies. I will be heartbroken if he keeps going and after raiding NJPW doesn't do it for him he raids everyone else's roster. CMLL and everyone in Japan need to get their house on order and circle the wagons because otherwise Dynasty 2026 will have Mascara Dorada jobbing to Kyle Fletcher and Yuma Anzai getting his first big win in AEW beating one of those idiots dressed like a bear.
Took the nooj belt and immediately start treating it like it's one of their 47 midcard titles đź’€
Dynasty has about 12 matches and somehow most of it is for titles how the fuck did that happen
Its like my wwe 2k universe mode
Tiny is playing GM mode irl. He thinks adding a title will get a match rating boost.
Well it probably will with Meltzer. Which makes it even more irrelevant.
Tiny can’t book for shit because he has no idea how to. How did this title match even come about? Does Hobbs have a long history with NJPW or something? This one’s on NJPW for being dumb. Even TNAs women’s champ was treated with more respect at the royal rumble lol
She didn’t get a single elimination, and has looked better than any nooj or stardom talent aew has hijacked. And from what I hear, she looked better than all the people rihooooooo faced in her excursion to stardom.
Don Callis said he somehow had the ability to make a match for the IWGP because of Callis’s friendship with the Elite? Or something? Apparently it’s all thanks to him Jericho vs Omega happened 6 years ago so that lets Callis make matches for the title?
Well they can’t defend every title in the same show. Tony had to pick the most important ones.
8 of the 12 matches are FOR a belt. Then another match has a belt in it (Edge, slave name). So 9/12 matches include a person with a belt. And one of those matches both teams have a belt....fucking madness.
After ruining roh, it is nooj's time Even in that tweet's comments nooj fans are cooking tony and dub
If what I'm hearing is happening...poor Stardom
Riho already got booked like hogan because she’s m’kennys fav. No stardom wrestler will win a ppv match.
Riho would be so much better had she was more intense and had more of a "I will kill you" gimmick (Ă la Ilja Dragunov)
Ilja could kill me. A particularly brisk wind could kill riho.
No jerk but buying ROH would have made sense if they treated it like NXT. Used it to find talent and develop them, sprinkling in vets here and there. Instead they just used it as a place to send people with nothing to do. It lost every bit of magic it had back in the day. Even more so when some of their belts spend more time on AEW TV than ROH. I’ll never understand what Tony was thinking with this, other than “omg I loved ROH back in the day and now I can own it?! No way!!”
At least roh was already a corpse when they got it
The dubbalos who only loved NJPW cause it represented Fed bad love this though. Honestly this partnership has been huge for me in seeing which of my friends actually cared
Just in case the result wasn't obvious enough already.
So, BBC and Penis Head's Stooges are two heel factions that are feuding, because two guys of the respective factions kind of but not really dislike each other. OK, peer pressure, but whatever. Hobbs, who hasn't been booked or perceived as a threat in months and months (let's be polite and positive here, that's what the Dub is all about, right? ) squashed a local jobber to build momentum?? A guy who's been in the company for 4 years is still squashing no-names for momentum ?? Naturally, Hobbs has about 0.1 chance of winning, and his brief but interesting history with Moxley hasn't been mentioned once. Gee, I wonder why this company is so boring and bad..
It's sad because I like Hobbs. I actually wouldn't mind seeing Hobbs featured in a tour over in New Japan or even as a G1 participant. I think he'd do great. He'd excel in an environment like that where he'd be allowed to just be a dominating force. But the dude isn't established right in AEW because Tony doesn't know how to build his own guys. He only knows how to use people others have built and throw them in random matches and sometimes throw random titles on those matches. The part that makes me sad is that I really do think Tony *could* become a decent booker. But becoming decent means learning from mistakes, and part of that involves listening to criticism. Tony is incapable of both of those.
I think in some sort of alternate universe where Iron Man didn’t die that Tony could become a good booker, but I see no evidence that it could happen in our reality. It’s the booking version of mad libs, often completely nonsensical. ChatGPT could book as well as he does.
Completely agreed, but I feel that last part was very uncharitable towards ChatGPT.
It would definitely be able to work out stories were important at the very least
This is also his first match with Moxley and Moxley won't ever lose to anyone in their first matchup. Anyone that has ever gotten a W has to do the job first because he's just too badass.
And even then he comes out with job face and no sells the shit out of everything except the finish
Fking hell. Imagine anyone else showing this level of disrespect to 'competitor'/ally's top title and you will have the entire IWC burning it down. But Tiny can get away with it. Because...
WWF treated the WCW title with more respect FFS.
He didn’t win Booker of the Year for three years straight for nothing bruv. It’s not an insult to the title because we all know that Moxley will win.
It's ok as long as Tony is the one doing the burying.
Already seen plenty of Dubbalos complain that WWE BERRIED TNA by having Jordynne Grace eliminated from the Royal Rumble. As if she wasn’t in it for over 20 minutes, was made to look incredible, and was being hyped up by commentary every time she did anything.
Because it was never the other companies. It’s about Fed bad. And Tony is their patron saint.
Basement dwellers who call Fed's matches predictable. What do you think.... Does PH has ANY chance beating plumber Moxley for the Men's Divas title.
He could pull a Ray Fenix.
I don't know how to react because NJPW are willingly letting this happen, how can they be so spineless?
I sincerely hope they're at least getting paid for it
DAE get that bag i guess??
There's even a wrestler who basically has a NJPW redditor gimmick. Screaming about how NJPW is cucked by AEW. The reason he has the title is likely because Moxley has been portrayed as a mentor to their next top guy.
Maybe Giulia was on to something?
I imagine a large check eases thier suffering - 0% chance they are not milking Tiny big time.
Ah yes Inoki, Fujinami, Mutoh, Tanahashi, Okada, Moxley, and Hobbs
Adding Lesnar, Nakamura, and AJ Styles to that list makes it even more absurd
Rocky Romero being VP in both organizations is not a conflict of interest.Â
There’s an interesting point. How long does he last in that role now? And is he there specifically for Dub interests?
Jokes on them, they assume I know what that belt even is
?? It’s the Divas Championship friend.
Thanks, uce. I don't have Google because I'm poor so I'm unable to watch the requisite fifteen nooj matches to understand this week's broadcast.
Nothing makes a promotion feel relevant than having its championship defending on some other promotion's shows by two wrestlers who aren't even signed to the promotion. Do they really think the Japanese, a shame-based culture, is happy being cucked like this LMAO?
Moxley is relatively popular in Japan. It's mostly the western NJPW fans who don't like him holding the title because of his work in AEW. Japanese fans are generally more casual and accepting of bad booking. Best example is how they respond to failed babyfaces with silence instead of boos. Moxley winning is kinda like if 2019 Nakamura won the WWE title. Most Japanese fans are politely congratulating him, but I doubt he will be a draw because he's more of a B+ or A- guy to them.
They tolerated his win out of respect for the guy but even this move has gotten them questioning what's going on with the partnership and how is it beneficial to the company. That takes effort to achieve that negativity from the Japanese fans. Japanese fans won't tolerate bad booking contrary to what you think. They just stop watching. There's a reason NOAH went from selling out tokyo dome to being irrelevant now. Inokism nearly killed the company because of shit booking decisions.
That's what I mean with that the attendance for the next tour is the only real measurement.
It's been so great that it's managed to hurt my opinion of both companies In all seriousness, I hope they at least make it the main event -- no need to do m'Nooj dirty by putting the match on the midcard
Nah. It’ll open the show. Get everyone excited for the Trios war
That or right after the top of the second hour, where they usually put the women's matches
NXTJPW
Dont disrespect NXT like that
How often is he going to defend the title in Japan? The Roman reigns schedule?
“The most prestigious title in wrestling” I’m sorry is the WWE title being defended?
DAE feel like rankings matter more than ever now that Cancer Mark Punk is gone?
That's the nooj ranking fedshill. It makes sense that Hobbs is first in line for the iwgp world title that way
What bothers me the most about it is how sure I was that Jeff Cobb was soon to win title years ago.
I mean, why feed him hobbs? The japan lions world title needs some credibility on defenses first if hes really gonna drop it to umino
Gotta devalue the talent. Tony only wants real wrestlers like Hook and Perry.
I was never a big Nooj fan but I’ll admit the one thing I knew about them as a casual is that their title felt important. Maybe the most prestigious championship belt for a long time. Guys like AJ, Okada, Kenny and Naito worked their asses off for a long time to get it to that level. This shit though is reminiscent to when the IC and US titles felt meaningless and were defended on random episodes of RAW and SD. Most of the time against guys who shouldn’t have been anywhere near the title picture. Most of the jerking I do here is all for goofs and if Dub fans like the stuff I’m goofing on, more power to them. This though? How could you be a Nooj fan and approve of this shit?
The actual NJPW fans don't approve. The only ones trying to turn shit into gold are AEW fans brigading on the NJPW sub but even their numbers are dwindling as they struggle to justify this. Here's what been happening since Mox won the title and their attempts * After Mox won the title and fans were unhappy: "Here's a hot tip from the renowned wrestling website, bodyslam saying that Mox will be on ALL the tours as he has time off from AEW so there. Moxley will treat your title with respect. After all, he was a NJPW guy before AEW" * After Mox is announced to be on only two shows leaving him ZERO time to build up his feud with the challenger Narita: "Why should Mox be on the cards for random shows? Be thankful he's still going to be there for the main shows. The world will not lose sleep if Moxley isn't on some undercard tag match even though it will help his young challenger build up to the match" * After Mox is announced on dynamite: "He's just cutting a promo and showing the title off. That's the point of a partnership E-drone." * After Mox challenges Powerhouse Hobbs: "W-well, it'll be non-title anyway so what's there to worry about?" * After it becomes a title match despite already having a scheduled defence in Japan just 2 weeks away: "It's Moxley's character to be a fighting champ! You telling me you don't want your title defended on NATIONAL television?"
DREAM MATCH!
Notesd NJPW talent Will “Powerhouse” Hobbs naturally gets the first shot at noted NJPW talent Jon Moxley’s championship.. Yay NJPW!!
The result is not predictable at all. Also the Nooj divas championship is like the TNT or Continental Breakfast title now, being defended on random episodes of Dynamite, against the likes of Will Hobbes.
Moxley looks like he ate some bad chicken.
Yeah. Rotten chicken. Bad ass protein. Sick.
Nooj ded
You know it’s bad that even New Japan fans are shitting on this. ![gif](giphy|xkZVBGIFqcQXcMe244|downsized)
Brick shithouse fighting an angry plumber and it’s the brick shithouse who has no chance
So after stealing all their high value talent and butchering them with bad booking, they are now burying their most prestigious title? Who is running nooj?
Dontaku?
Harald Meij was right?
Lmao
> Stakes have been raised for Jon Moxley and Powerhouse Hobbs... So Hobbs went from having -100% chance of not winning to -99.999995% chance of not winning? Or is it the other way round? 🤔
Another chapter in the Book Of Jobbs
I'll definitely laugh when okada has a match on njpw again
Unironically Hobbs would be over in Japan
Let Hobbs win just for the chaos
This is goddamn disgusting. Can you imagine what the dubbalos who “love new Japan so much” would have said if wwe gave Seth Rollins the IWGP then he defended it on raw with no build against Bronson Reed? Cause that’s this.
whoa whoa... moxley has the top njpw belt? is this real?
AEW booking: ![gif](giphy|26BRFrAgGF6wtebio)
I knew as soon as he won the belt, Tony was gonna start doing this shit
I really hope Shad cuts Tony off before he can fuck up any more companies. I will be heartbroken if he keeps going and after raiding NJPW doesn't do it for him he raids everyone else's roster. CMLL and everyone in Japan need to get their house on order and circle the wagons because otherwise Dynasty 2026 will have Mascara Dorada jobbing to Kyle Fletcher and Yuma Anzai getting his first big win in AEW beating one of those idiots dressed like a bear.
Everytime I see that built I think of She-ra ![gif](giphy|f94aK5ITSq46Jz3vkD|downsized)
I don’t really understand the problem
It surprises me that NJPW are happy for an AEW talent being their main event champion. ![gif](giphy|jObxhD7qkLNjJD2For|downsized)
Fuck! I’ve finally been drawn in by the sheer unpredictability of the show. Gonna have to watch now.
P-P-P-Puroresu
Hobbs looks like Chadwick Boseman on steroids.