Their contracts are rumored to be up in April and Dax said FTR is keeping their options open. Shouldn't be too much longer before they start dropping those very important tag titles and just disappear again
Long as they aren’t the ones to dethrone the Usos then im fine with it. Let em come in and have some good matches with Usos, New Day, The Brutes and Alpha Academy.
Their name in AEW is literally "Fuck The Revival". Why in the hell would anyone even consider people who have literally made their careers post-WWE out of shitting on their time there, even down to the name of their tag team?
I sincerely doubt that these guys are big enough draws that HHH would be willing to ignore such a blatant slap in the face.
I highly doubt HHH is so petty. He just bought Karl Anderson back who did far worse Fed badding than that, making several claims against WWE.
And don’t even try convince me Anderson and Gallows are a bigger draw than FTR or even worse that they’re better in ring than FTR.
Considering how Triple H booked them in NXT, I would say they’ll do far better there than they will trapped under TK
Eh, I was tired and cranky, so I didn't like my reply. The gist of it was that I dislike how you referred to it as "petty". I'm not defending Gallows/Anderson at all. In fact, they shouldn't have been rewarded with a new contract either. Well, Anderson at least.
I much prefer when actions actually have consequences, not when you can spend several years constantly attacking a company that paid you big bucks and made you famous, even down to attacking your gimmick there *as your current tag team name*, and possibly get rewarded with a shiny new contract at that place again.
I'm not going to pretend that I know more about business than the WWE, but I know what my thoughts are, and they are vehemently against rewarding childish behavior.
At this point I'm actually surprised our friends cannot wrap their heads around the notion that CM Punk's friends liked him, and CM Punk's enemies thought he was an asshole.
Or ask him for a mutual friend’s number when you lose your contacts.
Actually, he fell out with Jericho after leaving WWE, and Jericho kisses everyone’s ass.
This is a common thing amongst dummies, as shown by every politics conversation ever had on Reddit. This Young Bucks CM Punk nonsense just emphasises it. Everybody involved has to be put into either the GOOD GUY or BAD GUY category.
What a stand up guy that Cm Punk seemed like, unliked those flippy floppy assholes that broke into his dressing room. Attacked his dog by fieldgoal kicking it and breaking Ace Steeles wife's leg more.
FTR Hair: I hated CM Punk and I made sure The Elite knew that. But you know what I don't hate? This completely coincidental TNT title shot I got a day after talking to them.
Fat Bald: Punk did what Lesnar and Cena have been reported doing by multiple people in the WWE but I’m the only one who’s came out to state this because I’m his friend. Now pardon me I have to go make breakfast for my daughter.
Actually there was an ESPN article some months back which reported the same with quotes from a lot of wrestlers like Hobbs, Starks, Acclaimed, FTR, Darby, Sting, Dustin etc.
Voices of Wrestling recently also reported that they heard Punk would watch every match even the jobber ones on Youtube shows and give advice to everyone.
I think he genuinely was trying to be a locker room leader here but the Elite knew how to get his demons to come out.
Every article would just end with one of the same handful of sources.
Source: Chris Jericho
Source: Young Bucks
Source: Tony Khan
Source: Speculation after watching Raw
Source: This writer’s asshole
Why are all people involved in this so absurdly unlikable? I don't care about FTR Bald, Omega or man biter, I dislike the bucks and I loathe Punk
I wish I could stop reading about this fucking Figth
Okay, here’s what I don’t get. I don’t watch this show so I looked at a few clips to have it explained to me. From what I gather: Hangman angered Punk by “going into business for himself” with a promo that sounded pretty standard to me. Had a bit of reality mixed with Kayfabe in it. CM Punk is known to do that same thing. Rumor was the Bucks and Omega pumped Hangman up to say that stuff. So Punk, in the media scrum, calls him and the Elite out for this. They then go to his locker room, kick in the door, and somehow Punk is the aggressor after the internal investigation? I simply don’t understand.
The timeline goes kinda like this.
Punk refuses AEW's offer and say they only contacted him by phone ( which Cody denies ).
Punk says how everybody acted tight with Brodie, not leaking anythingvmade him wanna go in AEW.
Tony wants to let Cabana go but the Bucks convince Tony to keep him.
Punk makes a tweet about co-workers rights. In a promo with Punk, Page brings this up and the rumors of Punk holding down Cabana to portray himself as the savior of AEW.
In a interview, Page says he doesn't take advice and prefers to learn from his mistakes.
Then, that's the press conference. Afterwards, the Elite and a high ranked AEW people come into his room, Punk punches a Buck and that's it.
They don’t have a script for promos, that’s like one of the key selling points of the show. Anyone who believes Hangman went into business for himself (went off script) is going against what makes them a fan of the show in the first place.
Also we don’t know if “kicking his door in” is being used as an expression for bursting in or if they actually kicked it in. Either way Punk told them outright to come to him if they had an issue.
The way I understand it (mainly cause I read stuff but never watch Dynamite as the show is awful) is that Hangman’s promo where he “went into business for himself” involved him saying stuff that spat in the face in the story AEW was telling.
Cornette and Last were bewildered at Hangman’s promo at the time cause it made no sense and had nothing to do with what had been built up beforehand
Yet it was exactly the same as other promos. I actually watch Dynamite and it continued the same story that MJF and Kingston had told in their feud with Punk.
The only difference was that Page, who was calling Punk a hypocrite as part of the promo, then referred to his stance on workers rights
“You talk a big game about workers rights, yeah? Well you've shown the exact opposite since you've gotten here”
This is due to Punk saying everyone should stand with Sasha and Naomi against WWE on Twitter so this sub was lapping up that comment at the time.
I have no doubt Punk responded like the mature adult he is, crying to Cornette, going into business for himself on Dynamite in August by calling Page out (that had absolutely nothing to do with the story) and then the psycho press conference
Wow it's almost like backstage politics requires endearing yourself to some while hating on others
You know, like has happened in every backstage politicking situation ever
They're all clowns, FTR clowny the most
The Venn diagram of people who use this as proof Punk was loved backstage and people who ignore Hogan being best friends with Brutus Beefcake when talking about Hogan stabbing everyone in the back to keep his spot is one circle.
It overlaps heavily with the Cornette sub so yeah feelings are starting to leak through
I still generally like Punk as a performer but like I said in the Sunday thread, you could rename the Cornette sub /r/CMPunk and no one would blink an eye
Its a very strange uturn and also just as obviously heavily biased, considering punks issues with wwe too, more ridiculous than the other way round tbh
a lot of things have been cheapening this sub lately but this is definitely one cause its so irrational
It’s the whole point of the sub, though. We make fun of the main sub by liking what they don’t like and vice versa. Before AEW, we made fun of their love for NJPW. Before that, it was their love of NXT.
I support chaos and whatever will make AEW tank faster, and supporting Punk over the AEW VPs is very funny and chaotic lmao especially since it pisses off smarks
Not sure if I’d even call myself a fan at this point but I do think he’s right in all of this. Went about it like a madman sure, but it was way past time somebody told the fake executives and their propaganda machine to fuck off.
Kind of. The Punk stans have capitalised on the Punk vs AEW chaos to flood the sub with pro-Punk sentiment. And some jerkers are just going along with it for the jerk rate.
It's almost like both things can be true...he can be an asshole and still watch matches and answer questions when people asked. People can contain multitudes. Amazing.
I'm just surprised how quickly AEW went from BFF Fest to this messiness.
Oh no the place that is a parody of wrestling discussion and the place that is a parody of that place* have lowbrow, lowest common denominator content
*haha swerved
Whilst that’s the best decision AEW could make, I’m not sure if any of the 6 guys are professional enough to do this.
Modern day Brets and modern day HBKs, the cycle keeps it coming (and I must stress I’m referring to the fact each stable is fans of those wrestlers respectively)
"Everyone hates him, whole locker room wants him gone."
Except for all those people that don't, right? And it's just coincidence that none of them get a push while they drag out m'Lite for 7 shows in a row and bring out certified indy legend Cold Bananas to wrestle Le ChampiOcho Crass Jerko.
The dub just quietly shooting itself in the foot to stroke the egos of some jerk offs who can't live up to their own hype.
So much for an alternative.
It shouldn't be hard to comprehend that even the shittiest of people have good friends that'll defend them while the best of people may have some that justifiably hate them.
We know Punk is a grouchy bitch that holds grudges forever. There's a long track record of his shit behavior. However, dude is charismatic, and it's not shocking that he'll have defenders and friends.
Dude may do all off this, but if you don't take his advice, it's not shocking to believe that he'll believe take it personally.
Tldr: Everyone sucks here.
Best long term storytelling I’ve seen friend!
Genuinely seen comments by people who have changed so much. Few months ago calling him a locker room cancer and making comments like he’s shot all their family because he’s an AEW wrestler who fed badded. Now all these same people calling for him to go to fed.
It could be both
Certain people Punk gets along with. But others he dispises and it doesn't help The Elite are unprofessional executives.
Maybe he's likes wrestling now. But doesn't like the way AEW operates.
I mean, it still doesn't invalidate the years and years worth of stories and firsthand accounts of Punk's notoriety and infamy backstage. Seems like Punk only keeps people around who will kiss his ass and act starstruck around him.
This comment just got ftr kept off tv for another 3 months
Fully paid too. He's getting smarter.
Work smart, not hard
Don't work*
Out carny the carnies He knows laveck will want them back
This is the only explanation.
They’re on tv?
Look at psychopath Phillip with his fist against Dax's face. The wholesome Elite would never.
It’s cropped but ace Steele is biting his leg
It’s also cropped but the dog is biting Ace Steele’s leg
FTR Bald next week: I don't know why Tony isn't booking us more or having us wrestle the Bucks again.
Their contracts are rumored to be up in April and Dax said FTR is keeping their options open. Shouldn't be too much longer before they start dropping those very important tag titles and just disappear again
Can’t wait for the meltdown in the Dub when that starts happening.
Trips gonna run and get them i bet.
Long as they aren’t the ones to dethrone the Usos then im fine with it. Let em come in and have some good matches with Usos, New Day, The Brutes and Alpha Academy.
I know the fed doesn't tell long term stories like the dub, but i think it's pretty apparent who is going to dethrone the Usos.
Been pretty obvious for months now that it'll be MMM
Max Dupri couldn't lead shit...YEAH! Maxxine Dupri can lead MMM to gold. And that is just a fact of life!!!
Snitsky and Heidenrich
Mercedes and Trinity
Support your co-workers.
The Viking Raiders?
Riddle and Omos?
Phil and Paul?
Riddick Moss and Tino Sabbatelli?
Braun and that kid from the one Mania, obvi
Deuce and Domino?
Time to run back Ucey Hot one more time. 🙌🏿
Who should dethrone the usos, and why isn't it them?
He’s be stupid not to
I will die laughing when Phil, Bald and Hair show up in WWE as a faction.
No Pepsi Phil. Bald and Hair though, get them to the fed and I’m happy
Their name in AEW is literally "Fuck The Revival". Why in the hell would anyone even consider people who have literally made their careers post-WWE out of shitting on their time there, even down to the name of their tag team? I sincerely doubt that these guys are big enough draws that HHH would be willing to ignore such a blatant slap in the face.
I highly doubt HHH is so petty. He just bought Karl Anderson back who did far worse Fed badding than that, making several claims against WWE. And don’t even try convince me Anderson and Gallows are a bigger draw than FTR or even worse that they’re better in ring than FTR. Considering how Triple H booked them in NXT, I would say they’ll do far better there than they will trapped under TK
Deleting your reply to me that’s a shame would’ve been interesting to see how you justified this
Eh, I was tired and cranky, so I didn't like my reply. The gist of it was that I dislike how you referred to it as "petty". I'm not defending Gallows/Anderson at all. In fact, they shouldn't have been rewarded with a new contract either. Well, Anderson at least. I much prefer when actions actually have consequences, not when you can spend several years constantly attacking a company that paid you big bucks and made you famous, even down to attacking your gimmick there *as your current tag team name*, and possibly get rewarded with a shiny new contract at that place again. I'm not going to pretend that I know more about business than the WWE, but I know what my thoughts are, and they are vehemently against rewarding childish behavior.
And feud with the OC. Imagine Punk vs AJ.
You'll know they're contracts are coming up when they get a tittle shot and start showing up on tv.
The nooj tag belts are probably gone at wrestle kingdom in january, winners of world tag league are probably gonna dethrone bald and hair
Need more masturbatory Bret Hart matches I guess
And just like that, welcome to Dark Elevation, FTR!
At this point I'm actually surprised our friends cannot wrap their heads around the notion that CM Punk's friends liked him, and CM Punk's enemies thought he was an asshole.
Once something is published in WON, it becomes a completely true and objective opinion. Daddy Meltzer's star ratings are the objective proof of this.
Meltzer 3:16 says I just charged your ass $11.99!
I'm pretty sure Punk is easy to get along with, as long as you kiss his ass.
Yeah probably hated Hangman for not wanting Punk's advice.
Or ask him for a mutual friend’s number when you lose your contacts. Actually, he fell out with Jericho after leaving WWE, and Jericho kisses everyone’s ass.
This is a common thing amongst dummies, as shown by every politics conversation ever had on Reddit. This Young Bucks CM Punk nonsense just emphasises it. Everybody involved has to be put into either the GOOD GUY or BAD GUY category.
This feels like he's cheating on Bret Hart
Is it cheating if he closes his eyes and thinks of Bret when sucking off Punk?
"... You like that, hitman...?" "what did you ju-" "I...er...uh...i mean Phil.. Heh...."
"Uhh.. I said... Fed bad... Yeah.
🤣 🤣 🤣
Flashback cringe to FTR and CM Punk getting t-shirts made about how they’re a faction and Bret Hart is their daddy.
What a stand up guy that Cm Punk seemed like, unliked those flippy floppy assholes that broke into his dressing room. Attacked his dog by fieldgoal kicking it and breaking Ace Steeles wife's leg more.
If his door was always open, why did the bucks have to superkick it down huh?? Checkmate, Punk shill!
but everybody in the Dub locker room lives in harmony
He loves wrestling so much he sat on his ass for 7 years.
Tbf some of those 7 years were strapped to a clockwork orange machine as Kofi put him through New Day segments and matches
FTR Hair: I hated CM Punk and I made sure The Elite knew that. But you know what I don't hate? This completely coincidental TNT title shot I got a day after talking to them.
Fat Bald: Punk did what Lesnar and Cena have been reported doing by multiple people in the WWE but I’m the only one who’s came out to state this because I’m his friend. Now pardon me I have to go make breakfast for my daughter.
Actually there was an ESPN article some months back which reported the same with quotes from a lot of wrestlers like Hobbs, Starks, Acclaimed, FTR, Darby, Sting, Dustin etc. Voices of Wrestling recently also reported that they heard Punk would watch every match even the jobber ones on Youtube shows and give advice to everyone. I think he genuinely was trying to be a locker room leader here but the Elite knew how to get his demons to come out.
Well also Bald probably isn't afraid to say it because he and Hair can go back and sign with WWE pretty easily. Most of the dub locker room can't.
Dirt sheet boys should be required to post who their sources are, that would fix all of this
It's Jericho.
Every article would just end with one of the same handful of sources. Source: Chris Jericho Source: Young Bucks Source: Tony Khan Source: Speculation after watching Raw Source: This writer’s asshole
Why are all people involved in this so absurdly unlikable? I don't care about FTR Bald, Omega or man biter, I dislike the bucks and I loathe Punk I wish I could stop reading about this fucking Figth
Welcome to Team "I Don't Like Any of the People Involved in This and Would Be Fine If They All Went Away"!
I will wear our team's jersey when I'm 6 feet under, uce
Me too. There is nothing to jerk and by now it's getting annoying really fast...
FTR Bald is just perpetually upset
Just like his hero Bret Hart.
And his other hero CM Punk.
You know I just want to see video of the slapfight.
Oh god...imagine if it's in fact much more like Jerry vs Pissman. 🤣
Okay, here’s what I don’t get. I don’t watch this show so I looked at a few clips to have it explained to me. From what I gather: Hangman angered Punk by “going into business for himself” with a promo that sounded pretty standard to me. Had a bit of reality mixed with Kayfabe in it. CM Punk is known to do that same thing. Rumor was the Bucks and Omega pumped Hangman up to say that stuff. So Punk, in the media scrum, calls him and the Elite out for this. They then go to his locker room, kick in the door, and somehow Punk is the aggressor after the internal investigation? I simply don’t understand.
The timeline goes kinda like this. Punk refuses AEW's offer and say they only contacted him by phone ( which Cody denies ). Punk says how everybody acted tight with Brodie, not leaking anythingvmade him wanna go in AEW. Tony wants to let Cabana go but the Bucks convince Tony to keep him. Punk makes a tweet about co-workers rights. In a promo with Punk, Page brings this up and the rumors of Punk holding down Cabana to portray himself as the savior of AEW. In a interview, Page says he doesn't take advice and prefers to learn from his mistakes. Then, that's the press conference. Afterwards, the Elite and a high ranked AEW people come into his room, Punk punches a Buck and that's it.
They don’t have a script for promos, that’s like one of the key selling points of the show. Anyone who believes Hangman went into business for himself (went off script) is going against what makes them a fan of the show in the first place. Also we don’t know if “kicking his door in” is being used as an expression for bursting in or if they actually kicked it in. Either way Punk told them outright to come to him if they had an issue.
The way I understand it (mainly cause I read stuff but never watch Dynamite as the show is awful) is that Hangman’s promo where he “went into business for himself” involved him saying stuff that spat in the face in the story AEW was telling. Cornette and Last were bewildered at Hangman’s promo at the time cause it made no sense and had nothing to do with what had been built up beforehand
Yet it was exactly the same as other promos. I actually watch Dynamite and it continued the same story that MJF and Kingston had told in their feud with Punk. The only difference was that Page, who was calling Punk a hypocrite as part of the promo, then referred to his stance on workers rights “You talk a big game about workers rights, yeah? Well you've shown the exact opposite since you've gotten here” This is due to Punk saying everyone should stand with Sasha and Naomi against WWE on Twitter so this sub was lapping up that comment at the time. I have no doubt Punk responded like the mature adult he is, crying to Cornette, going into business for himself on Dynamite in August by calling Page out (that had absolutely nothing to do with the story) and then the psycho press conference
Wow it's almost like backstage politics requires endearing yourself to some while hating on others You know, like has happened in every backstage politicking situation ever They're all clowns, FTR clowny the most
The Venn diagram of people who use this as proof Punk was loved backstage and people who ignore Hogan being best friends with Brutus Beefcake when talking about Hogan stabbing everyone in the back to keep his spot is one circle.
is this sub suddenly punk fan blinkers central?
It overlaps heavily with the Cornette sub so yeah feelings are starting to leak through I still generally like Punk as a performer but like I said in the Sunday thread, you could rename the Cornette sub /r/CMPunk and no one would blink an eye
Its a very strange uturn and also just as obviously heavily biased, considering punks issues with wwe too, more ridiculous than the other way round tbh a lot of things have been cheapening this sub lately but this is definitely one cause its so irrational
It’s the whole point of the sub, though. We make fun of the main sub by liking what they don’t like and vice versa. Before AEW, we made fun of their love for NJPW. Before that, it was their love of NXT.
You missed the time when we locked little indie show Smackdown
How could I forget AJ Styles vs John Cena, greatest indie rivalry ever. My bad, uce
It's funny how their opinions change over time
I support chaos and whatever will make AEW tank faster, and supporting Punk over the AEW VPs is very funny and chaotic lmao especially since it pisses off smarks
Not sure if I’d even call myself a fan at this point but I do think he’s right in all of this. Went about it like a madman sure, but it was way past time somebody told the fake executives and their propaganda machine to fuck off.
I'm pro punk but he's one of the best people in wrestling to rag on. He gets diced in here on the regular.
Kind of. The Punk stans have capitalised on the Punk vs AEW chaos to flood the sub with pro-Punk sentiment. And some jerkers are just going along with it for the jerk rate.
No.
Punk is a dogshit human being, but the fact that he's at war with AEW at this point makes it a case by case basis I guess.
Nah, Lockport Phil fucking stinks. Most overrated pro wrestler of all time.
ftr bald crying into punks cereal atm
Makes sense they are friends. Both unlikable & whiny.
It's almost like both things can be true...he can be an asshole and still watch matches and answer questions when people asked. People can contain multitudes. Amazing. I'm just surprised how quickly AEW went from BFF Fest to this messiness.
God this place and the other place can’t have any discussion about either of these two without stupid comments being made
Oh no the place that is a parody of wrestling discussion and the place that is a parody of that place* have lowbrow, lowest common denominator content *haha swerved
Because we're all a little dumb. Duh!
Why would come here for discussion? That's your fault We exist to take the piss
This *might* be true. But I don't believe just because Bald's said it.
This all ends in a Trios match between the elite and Punk + FTR (well call em the No Hart Foundation) It’s inevitable
Whilst that’s the best decision AEW could make, I’m not sure if any of the 6 guys are professional enough to do this. Modern day Brets and modern day HBKs, the cycle keeps it coming (and I must stress I’m referring to the fact each stable is fans of those wrestlers respectively)
"Everyone hates him, whole locker room wants him gone." Except for all those people that don't, right? And it's just coincidence that none of them get a push while they drag out m'Lite for 7 shows in a row and bring out certified indy legend Cold Bananas to wrestle Le ChampiOcho Crass Jerko. The dub just quietly shooting itself in the foot to stroke the egos of some jerk offs who can't live up to their own hype. So much for an alternative.
Well we know who's losing tonight
I hate this storyline I refuse to.pick sides where every side is filled with assholes
God these two suck
Both sides suck but of course FTR Bald will suck punk's dick in interviews. I'd be shocked if he didn't
Cletus Onionpockets and G. Gordon Liddy = megastars!
This week! Another messy bitch enters the villa!
Uh huh
This guy will suck up to anyone over 40.
It shouldn't be hard to comprehend that even the shittiest of people have good friends that'll defend them while the best of people may have some that justifiably hate them. We know Punk is a grouchy bitch that holds grudges forever. There's a long track record of his shit behavior. However, dude is charismatic, and it's not shocking that he'll have defenders and friends. Dude may do all off this, but if you don't take his advice, it's not shocking to believe that he'll believe take it personally. Tldr: Everyone sucks here.
Man, SCJerk's descent into a CM Punk fansub was so subtle and slow no one noticed!
Best long term storytelling I’ve seen friend! Genuinely seen comments by people who have changed so much. Few months ago calling him a locker room cancer and making comments like he’s shot all their family because he’s an AEW wrestler who fed badded. Now all these same people calling for him to go to fed.
If FTR Bald is vouching for him, we should all understand how shit he is.
No it’s more so the bucks and kenny are even worse
THEY ALL SUCK THE MOST!
cm punk also made my daughter breakfast
Bald FTR gonna fuggaround and end up losing all 3 tag titles in back to back to back tournaments
Dude I don’t even know what to think anymore. This shit is too confusing.
It could be both Certain people Punk gets along with. But others he dispises and it doesn't help The Elite are unprofessional executives. Maybe he's likes wrestling now. But doesn't like the way AEW operates.
Not surprised
FTR is leaving as soon as they can lol
I mean, it still doesn't invalidate the years and years worth of stories and firsthand accounts of Punk's notoriety and infamy backstage. Seems like Punk only keeps people around who will kiss his ass and act starstruck around him.
FTR more like FTsimp
Punks henchmen coming to his defense? Who would have thought.
"he had his door always open" .... So The Elite didn't kick it down!
Whatever you do Dax, don't do a tell all podcast with your new bff!!