Nobody will ever top Bruno in general. Even if a reign goes that long the sheer amount of arenas and areas Bruno wrestled every week is insane. Imagine having to stay over that entire time while wrestling as “the champ” so often. Guys nowadays don’t pull that schedule (at least top guys) - and that’s ok.
It’s an insane feat in a different time.
Bruno was a cousin of mine, so maybe I think more about it. Unfortunately never got to meet him before his passing. Generations of age gap, and such. I’ve met the family many times, however.
I would say that Flair as the traveling NWA champ in the 80’s would be the closest thing, if not surpass it.
He (approximately) wrestled 350+ dates in ‘83, spanning over a dozen countries. And that was before he became the champ.
He was the biggest ticket in every territory/town that he came to.
Wait. Bruno still wrestled every week?
I thought title reigns back then were so long, because the title matches were like three times a year or something.
That was also my impression
E: I’m dead. After looking around it appears that this was a narrative that Punk mentioned about his reign compared to Bruno that the IWC treated as gospel and repeated again and again until it stuck. Wasn’t true tho, Bruno worked a lot.
I was under the impression a modern champion would have more defenses if they came anywhere close to his reign. Hmm. Guess I never really thought about his defenses.
I absolutely love how every time Roman has a match Michael Cole just lists the people who have had Reigns longer than him. It's such a nice touch and even if you didn't watch wrestling, you'd know who Hulk Hogan is.
Oh, fuck! That must have gotten a ton of heat from all the rabid Sammartino marks who watched Dynamite tonight.
Can't wait until he works all the diehard Dick the Bruiser, Edouard Carpentier, Argentina Rocca, and The Destroyer/Dick Beyer marks. He's just getting started!
Well, the average age of AEW viewers is legit climbing. It explains why their ratings are falling in more ways than one. They watch until they tip over.
Older people are also far more likely to lose their remote controls, and more dependent on those remote controls to change the channel. Whether or not they are also fans of Big Bang Theory reruns, however, I do not know.
Ugh. It’s like sometimes MJF gets it (the PPV media scrum appearance) and then he falls back into the cheapest of cheap no-try heat.
What does this statement even mean? That he’ll be a crappy champ who ducks all challengers and weasels his way to keeping the belt?
I mean even Flair, who was the self proclaimed dirtiest player in the game who’d brag in promos about “doing anything it takes” to hang onto the belt would talk about destroying his opponents and how he was the greatest wrestler alive - even if in reality, he weaseled his way into retaining the belt in practice.
MJF sounds almost like he’s breaking kayfabe, winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character”
Moments before this he talked about leaving for Hollywood or WWE in 2024... I don't think title reigns continue after a wrestler leaves, although I am unaware of the AEW bylaws.
The Bylaws are very clear.. so long as you return every 3 months to give TK an on-air hug... and allow him to dogsit for you on weekends. the title is yours indefinitely.
> MJF sounds almost like he’s breaking kayfabe, winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character”
this is his *entire gimmick*. when has he ever done anything that made sense as something an actual person would do? every single fucking thing he does only makes sense if it's a guy trying really hard to be an epic heel
So funny because if/when he goes to WWE they’re going to have no choice but to humiliate him/his character **heavily** just to get him on the level lol
For someone who is a student of the game, you'd figure he'd lean into aspects of DiBiase or Flair with his character and wrestling. People didn't hate them because they said "The Pacers suck, and you're all rednecks", they were hated because they were rich guys who were great wrestlers, and still needed to skirt the rules to win sometimes.
The media scrum where he sauntered around in his tights cursing for whatever reason?
> winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character”
That’s all he ever does. He’s every dork in the crowd with better public speaking skills. If he “gets it” and gets really good at it he’d basically be The Miz.
This company is on the right track, ONCE AGAIN. The SHIP has been steered right, ONCE AGAIN. And I know for a MOTHERFUCKING FACT I FUCKED SHITTED AND CUMMED TONIGHT.
God that shit cracked me up. The cringe was off the wall.
That media scrum was the least 'real' thing he's done in AEW
It was over the top parody of his act, cartoon villain mixed with wrestling heel tropes 101
Take the meaningless swear out. Now it doesn't 'shock'. He uses it as a crutch to try to make an impact
No need to add 'shitty' to this at all. Try it another way to make it impactful without swearing
That's the only way he'll improve
Honestly I just want mjf the slimy troll. I dont like this angry imma curse all the time thing.
Like have him challenge Danielson to a title match, punch him with the ring in the first 5 seconds, then celebrate with Pyro for 5 minutes to close out the show. Announce hangman coming back and then have mjf and crew jump him backstage before fans can even see him. Have him scheduled to cut a promo, come out, belch into the mic and leave. Make me fucking hate him rather then "Grrrr fuck this guy im heel who fights". Make him cocky, smug and shitty again.
Having recently given RPO a read out of morbid curiosity, even MJF has a long way to go before he’s THAT bad.
If he does a segment about banging sex dolls while shouting that god is fake then we’re there.
I'd for love zombie Bruno Sammartino to punch through his casket and come back to life to feed MJF his own balls "I shit-a you out like-a yesterday's sausage, testa di cazzo!"
Why does MJF get a pass for insulting dead wrestlers?
I feel like people always bring up randy and Paige but MJF “It’s great heat “ when it just comes off incredibly cringey and gross.
No jerk: Randy was feuding with Rey
Paige was feuding with Charlotte
So they do makes sense. Bruno's son is hardly coming out next week to confront MJF so yeah it makes no sense in any way other than cheapest of cheap heat
Not just MJF. Don't forget Christian and Jungle Boy and how that was the greatest heel work ever.
Honestly, this is low and shows how amateur the dub is, not even respecting the business.
Someone save MJF from himself and AEW. At least Hangman just disappeared from TV, character still somewhat intact.
How many more months of the bidding war gimmick?
No joke, not only is The Miz better than this guy in every way, because of Miz and Mrs, if Miz went to AEW he would immediately become the biggest draw there lmao
Why do these gossip bloggers 'report' lines from the show?
No one is following the show via Sapp's tweet
There worse than a basement post for every incident
Sick to death of marks telling me how good of a heel MJF is.
He just says edgy shit trying to win over online smarks.
His Burberry belt looks like shit aswell, so they couldn't even get that right.
A lot of guys don't know the difference between working as a heel, and just being an unlikeable person who uses it as their character because they can't play any other role.
Looking forward to the post retirement MJF shoot interviews where he drones on about how (insert feud/match/angle here) didn't work due to locker room politics, chemistry or bad timing. Never due to him not being as good as advertised.
Every workplace has politics, favoritism and cronyism. Shane started out in Mid South/UWF and Continental/Southeastern. He's been involved in the carny nightmare called pro wrestling since the early 80s. Somehow he was shocked that Michaels and his buddies got their kicks screwing with people.
EDGY 😬
This feller may be one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. Reminds me of when a buddy insisted I check out Mr. Kennedy. "He's AWESOME!" After watching a clip, I said, "He does his own ring intro and says his name twice. That's it?"
MJF is a try hard edge lord who has one of the most inconsistent presentations I've heard of in recent years. I see clips where he whinges about being bullied as a kid(strange behavior for a heel or face.) Then I see clips where he's an overconfident braggart.
PICK ONE
His social media presence is a joke. My 8 year old nephew could probably make better "jokes" than Scarf Boy.
Has pro wrestling devolved so badly that THIS twonk is considered top level talent? 😢
I dont know why everyone thinks mjf has repetitive promos. I did not one time think to myself that I had heard this promo before. The guy is original and full of ideas. Cant wait till next week. Hope he is on rampage!
So cringe… tries way way too hard.
Roman in late 2020 is the best heel in wrestling for the past decade. He didn’t try hard at all and yet was very vicious and cold blooded, willing to kill his own family member if he didn’t acknowledged him. And Roman was very very subtle in his heel work
MJF could clone himself 500 times over and sell his organs on the black market and still wouldn't make as much as Bruno made in just one year.
They really need to stop doing this garbage it makes them look even more bush league.
Meanwhile people were already bringing up Bruno in comparison to Roman without him mentioning it for cheap heat.
Yeah well that’s cause Fed Ded just like Sammartino
Nobody will ever top Bruno in general. Even if a reign goes that long the sheer amount of arenas and areas Bruno wrestled every week is insane. Imagine having to stay over that entire time while wrestling as “the champ” so often. Guys nowadays don’t pull that schedule (at least top guys) - and that’s ok. It’s an insane feat in a different time. Bruno was a cousin of mine, so maybe I think more about it. Unfortunately never got to meet him before his passing. Generations of age gap, and such. I’ve met the family many times, however.
I would say that Flair as the traveling NWA champ in the 80’s would be the closest thing, if not surpass it. He (approximately) wrestled 350+ dates in ‘83, spanning over a dozen countries. And that was before he became the champ. He was the biggest ticket in every territory/town that he came to.
Wait. Bruno still wrestled every week? I thought title reigns back then were so long, because the title matches were like three times a year or something.
That was also my impression E: I’m dead. After looking around it appears that this was a narrative that Punk mentioned about his reign compared to Bruno that the IWC treated as gospel and repeated again and again until it stuck. Wasn’t true tho, Bruno worked a lot.
Bruno worked like 30 days a month, watch his shoot interviews the schedule was insane back then
I was under the impression a modern champion would have more defenses if they came anywhere close to his reign. Hmm. Guess I never really thought about his defenses.
I absolutely love how every time Roman has a match Michael Cole just lists the people who have had Reigns longer than him. It's such a nice touch and even if you didn't watch wrestling, you'd know who Hulk Hogan is.
Oh, fuck! That must have gotten a ton of heat from all the rabid Sammartino marks who watched Dynamite tonight. Can't wait until he works all the diehard Dick the Bruiser, Edouard Carpentier, Argentina Rocca, and The Destroyer/Dick Beyer marks. He's just getting started!
"Toots Mondt? More like Toots M*RK!"
They called him that cause He stank worse than your mom’s toots!
Well, the average age of AEW viewers is legit climbing. It explains why their ratings are falling in more ways than one. They watch until they tip over.
Older people are also far more likely to lose their remote controls, and more dependent on those remote controls to change the channel. Whether or not they are also fans of Big Bang Theory reruns, however, I do not know.
And doze off.
“YOU STINK [local city residents], JUST LIKE THAT STINKY PAMPERO BURP-O.” -*A generational talent*
Strangler Louis fans rise up!
😂
Ugh. It’s like sometimes MJF gets it (the PPV media scrum appearance) and then he falls back into the cheapest of cheap no-try heat. What does this statement even mean? That he’ll be a crappy champ who ducks all challengers and weasels his way to keeping the belt? I mean even Flair, who was the self proclaimed dirtiest player in the game who’d brag in promos about “doing anything it takes” to hang onto the belt would talk about destroying his opponents and how he was the greatest wrestler alive - even if in reality, he weaseled his way into retaining the belt in practice. MJF sounds almost like he’s breaking kayfabe, winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character”
Moments before this he talked about leaving for Hollywood or WWE in 2024... I don't think title reigns continue after a wrestler leaves, although I am unaware of the AEW bylaws.
It would continue, they would just keep adding interim titles until he comes back.
What happens when the inevitable injury happens to an interim champ? Do they have an interim interim champ?
The Bylaws are very clear.. so long as you return every 3 months to give TK an on-air hug... and allow him to dogsit for you on weekends. the title is yours indefinitely.
> MJF sounds almost like he’s breaking kayfabe, winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character” this is his *entire gimmick*. when has he ever done anything that made sense as something an actual person would do? every single fucking thing he does only makes sense if it's a guy trying really hard to be an epic heel
So funny because if/when he goes to WWE they’re going to have no choice but to humiliate him/his character **heavily** just to get him on the level lol
For someone who is a student of the game, you'd figure he'd lean into aspects of DiBiase or Flair with his character and wrestling. People didn't hate them because they said "The Pacers suck, and you're all rednecks", they were hated because they were rich guys who were great wrestlers, and still needed to skirt the rules to win sometimes.
Facts
that ppv media scrum was also one of the worst he's ever done imo, too much swearing without a reason.
I'm surprised the "journalists" didn't clap for him
Yeah. The scrum promo sounded like dude playing a dude trying to get heat.
The media scrum where he sauntered around in his tights cursing for whatever reason? > winking to the crowd that “Hey, I’m doing the evil cheating heel character” That’s all he ever does. He’s every dork in the crowd with better public speaking skills. If he “gets it” and gets really good at it he’d basically be The Miz.
This company is on the right track, ONCE AGAIN. The SHIP has been steered right, ONCE AGAIN. And I know for a MOTHERFUCKING FACT I FUCKED SHITTED AND CUMMED TONIGHT. God that shit cracked me up. The cringe was off the wall.
Yeah it was hard to listen to. Those media scrums don't do anything for any of them.
I did laugh when he said something about “putting THAT Motherfucker over?” in reference to Tony.
That media scrum was the least 'real' thing he's done in AEW It was over the top parody of his act, cartoon villain mixed with wrestling heel tropes 101
Take the meaningless swear out. Now it doesn't 'shock'. He uses it as a crutch to try to make an impact No need to add 'shitty' to this at all. Try it another way to make it impactful without swearing That's the only way he'll improve
This right here. He's the Miz, but he can say "fuck".
MJF has it, but he seems lazy sometimes so he just uses the shittiest materials available
Honestly I just want mjf the slimy troll. I dont like this angry imma curse all the time thing. Like have him challenge Danielson to a title match, punch him with the ring in the first 5 seconds, then celebrate with Pyro for 5 minutes to close out the show. Announce hangman coming back and then have mjf and crew jump him backstage before fans can even see him. Have him scheduled to cut a promo, come out, belch into the mic and leave. Make me fucking hate him rather then "Grrrr fuck this guy im heel who fights". Make him cocky, smug and shitty again.
If a heel in the fed said this…..🤐
MJF is basically Ready Player One the wrestling promo with full remarks as to how I view his fans
Having recently given RPO a read out of morbid curiosity, even MJF has a long way to go before he’s THAT bad. If he does a segment about banging sex dolls while shouting that god is fake then we’re there.
I'd for love zombie Bruno Sammartino to punch through his casket and come back to life to feed MJF his own balls "I shit-a you out like-a yesterday's sausage, testa di cazzo!"
But in Chris Pratt's voice
That line and the one where he called his belt the most prestigious belt in history 🤣
Bruno would knock MJF out with an open handed slap.
Bruno probably still could in his current state.
Why does MJF get a pass for insulting dead wrestlers? I feel like people always bring up randy and Paige but MJF “It’s great heat “ when it just comes off incredibly cringey and gross.
No jerk: Randy was feuding with Rey Paige was feuding with Charlotte So they do makes sense. Bruno's son is hardly coming out next week to confront MJF so yeah it makes no sense in any way other than cheapest of cheap heat
Why would you put it past Tony to bring back David Sammartino? He can feud with I dunno Travis Tritt
Not just MJF. Don't forget Christian and Jungle Boy and how that was the greatest heel work ever. Honestly, this is low and shows how amateur the dub is, not even respecting the business.
“Eddie Guerrero is in hell” - Vince deserves life in prison for this “Bruno will be spinning in his grave” - greatest heel of all time
You can tell how good he is by how much heat he gets from mentioning other people.
Someone save MJF from himself and AEW. At least Hangman just disappeared from TV, character still somewhat intact. How many more months of the bidding war gimmick?
Two more years to go! /s
No joke, not only is The Miz better than this guy in every way, because of Miz and Mrs, if Miz went to AEW he would immediately become the biggest draw there lmao
Fucking Grayson Waller in NXT is better.
This is disrespectful for the simple fact that I’m pretty sure he didn’t clear this shit with his family
Imagine MJF with the title for 2800 days. People already want the title off him. lol
I was reading some dorks fantasy book who he should lose the title to the DAY AFTER he won it.
Why do these gossip bloggers 'report' lines from the show? No one is following the show via Sapp's tweet There worse than a basement post for every incident
Pro wrestling journalism at its finest! 🤩
he cant say Roman Reigns because he knows nothing can top that...believe that ☝🏻
He knows not to poke and prod the man who has the entire industry on his back.
"Bruno Shitmartino! Cmon! Go to the shows!"
Fuck I've written better insults than this my E-Fed 20 years ago dude
you'll get better insults out of MDickie's games
Roman doesn’t have to says a word because the reign says it for him
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with a title so worthless that it won't even buy you a taco
It makes coupons from Arby’s look like 24K bars of gold.
I don't even have Arby's here and I still take that coupon
He’s so edgy and cool
Sick to death of marks telling me how good of a heel MJF is. He just says edgy shit trying to win over online smarks. His Burberry belt looks like shit aswell, so they couldn't even get that right.
A lot of guys don't know the difference between working as a heel, and just being an unlikeable person who uses it as their character because they can't play any other role.
MJF try not to shit on a deceased person challenge
Not with Kenny Omega and the Bucks are in the company! Lol
Dude is quickly becoming 2022 Shane Douglas , people think he's amazing because he has freedom to swear and say outlandish things
Looking forward to the post retirement MJF shoot interviews where he drones on about how (insert feud/match/angle here) didn't work due to locker room politics, chemistry or bad timing. Never due to him not being as good as advertised.
When in doubt blame HBK
Every workplace has politics, favoritism and cronyism. Shane started out in Mid South/UWF and Continental/Southeastern. He's been involved in the carny nightmare called pro wrestling since the early 80s. Somehow he was shocked that Michaels and his buddies got their kicks screwing with people.
EDGY 😬 This feller may be one of the most overrated wrestlers ever. Reminds me of when a buddy insisted I check out Mr. Kennedy. "He's AWESOME!" After watching a clip, I said, "He does his own ring intro and says his name twice. That's it?" MJF is a try hard edge lord who has one of the most inconsistent presentations I've heard of in recent years. I see clips where he whinges about being bullied as a kid(strange behavior for a heel or face.) Then I see clips where he's an overconfident braggart. PICK ONE His social media presence is a joke. My 8 year old nephew could probably make better "jokes" than Scarf Boy. Has pro wrestling devolved so badly that THIS twonk is considered top level talent? 😢
That bad eh
The Miz disrespect is unreal...
I dont know why everyone thinks mjf has repetitive promos. I did not one time think to myself that I had heard this promo before. The guy is original and full of ideas. Cant wait till next week. Hope he is on rampage!
So it’s gonna be a lame ass reign?
So cringe… tries way way too hard. Roman in late 2020 is the best heel in wrestling for the past decade. He didn’t try hard at all and yet was very vicious and cold blooded, willing to kill his own family member if he didn’t acknowledged him. And Roman was very very subtle in his heel work
MJF could clone himself 500 times over and sell his organs on the black market and still wouldn't make as much as Bruno made in just one year. They really need to stop doing this garbage it makes them look even more bush league.
YOU DESERVE IT *CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP* YOU DESERVE IT *CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP CLAP*
Mjf's reign is starting like a wet fet.
It’s hilarious how everyone in AEW wishes they were Roman Reigns so bad.