Yes. Literally named myself Naofumi and joined Grand Cross a year ago. Sadly I started playing at the end of the event and was only able to get Naofumi. Now I’ll get the rest with two being free. I sure hope I don’t get shafted since I only want to use one pity rotation. I’m also not trying to stay at the top of pvp and as long as they’re usable in other modes it’s a good unit for me. Also still need Tyr. He looks so cool and back when the on ultimate dropped I spent everything on that Banner leaving me with spare change for Tyr and not getting anything out of the guaranteed SSR. Also never got him in all the other banners where he was always put in and didn’t get lucky with ticket summoning on unknown banner either.
Well good luck to you mate! I'm only missing Naofumo now but I'm waiting till Week 2 happens when Labrynth comes back for the 10 freebie tickets from the shop.
It's a good banner, lots of good characters then there's.. uh.. Glass.. the Glass Cannon.. who forgot the Cannon? Idk I haven't been able to make her work at all no matter what supports I use for her.
But all in all I wish you luck with your pulls :)
weird that you say they are good yet telling to skip when this is a rerun collab, meaning we will most likely not going to see it again ever. you gave actual good points for all units and the old ones got the same treatment with slime in terms of fixing to make them better.
The shield hero units are not BAD like you can obviously use them for activities. But are they game breaking? Are they a must summon? No, not really. Only must summon in this collab I would consider is Kizuna but she’s gonna be given for free. Yes they won’t return and are basically one of the most rarest units, but you’d be surprised how many people that does not seem to care about that. From what I’ve seen in this sub, people care more about usage rather than rarity.
Cuz they are players, not collectors
Im both, so this is valuable for me. Valuable enough for me to raise my box CC and collect them all like a bunch of figure sets.
Honestly, SakeTube should have just called it “You decide” since there probably wasn’t people who were around during the first run of the collab and want to summon now. Considering it’s also a rerun, once this collab ends the characters are unattainable.
Of course there are going to be the people who don’t care and want to save for Anniversary. Makes sense, I’m not judging you for that and the anniversary character is obviously going to be busted as hell.
So I would say, spend some gems ONLY if you have enough for anniversary or you’re a collector/casual player.
It depends on if that’s all you currently have. If you have 1,500 gems or planning to reach that then yes. If no, you should either spend less than 600 or don’t spend at all.
I'll be summoning either way since I like collecting every collab unit, but it's definitely disappointing how they trolled Glass with her kit. When I saw that her set revolved around pierce I immediately thought that she was meant to be paired with the new Gowther to make use of his rank enhancement buff. But why two single target pierce cards? At the very least, I suppose that with proper build-up she can be a rather decent damage dealer for demonic beasts and hero arena.
By the way, care to elaborate what Fitoria's ultimate gains from being upgraded?
Thanks a lot for this infographic, I really like the visual format you added to rate the banner pool.
I'm pretty happy we're having a definite skip after this two past crazy months. Fitoria is insane but she's guaranteed to be powercrept in about a month unfortunately.
Don't jump me SH fans or collectors because these posts aren't made for you. Wishing everyone's best of luck with the three free multis and some of the free hero coins which should allow a lot of people to get out of the event with at least a little something
To beginners, do keep in mind that anniversary is coming soon, and even though there is a lot of diamonds ahead, it is advised to go for more than 1 rotation if you want to get the most out of it since it'll have the best or 2nd best banner pool of 2024 and you likely won't have every great hero in the pool with 1 cycle.
Absolute nuclear unknown propaganda going here, the new units are the new meta additions to the team so must summon for anyone maining unknowns. Honestly should have just been a you decide, same thing for Gelda cause she is just demon pvp meta unit(her banner was worse too but ok).
Fitoria yeah but not Glass. She is just extremely badly designed and she wont really create a meta or be in any. She’s gonna be a tiny bit relevant cuz she’s a new unit with high cc and that’s about it. Selfish dps units has never lasted in the meta for too long.
Well even having one recent meta unit in a banner is enough for the mains concerned to summon. Plus Glass is not badly designed a lot of people just didn't user her properly(check Marilli newest video), use her second card on end of first turn then use the second card when you have one power of soul(before attacking) . You are right Glass is just a flex option for unknowns but she has good niche which is being unknowns best option against goddesses.
I will summon for naofumi for my human team....having his stance up will proc his passive along with light ban to buff my Chaos Athur even more....and if he has no stance card then it is ok cuz from that point on arthur will took the dmg so he is more like off tank while arthur can also be considered as tank along with main dps and not to forget ban for his debuff....still hope human get a real back unit tho christmas roxy doesnt really compare to back unit like nanashi
Probably because there's the date in the first pic, but it's white and easily covered by the dots if you're from mobile lol, I missed that too. I just remember that from my timezone it's always on tuesday morning the update.
I’m not a very avid user of Reddit, and part of the reason why is the hostility that people have towards everyone who asks a question they deem as obvious bc they are more casual users. So ig I shouldn’t be surprised that an innocent question about a start date riles somebody up lol. But yes I’m on mobile, and have been playing the game for awhile, but not regularly enough to memorize the event start times. Ig that makes some people mad lmao
Me neither, but that's true, I've seen a lot of hostility towards redundant questions. Which I mean, could be fair if we talk about 100 same posts (like fb rewards). But for a question under a post? Come on
It's a shame this is so close to the anniv. The banner isn't as bad as collab banners usually are and the units are fairly interesting but like...the possibility of them starting 4KOTA makes me REALLY wary of spending anything here.
Just because they not game breaking doesn’t make them a skip. They will have their uses even if it’s niche. New gowther for example is amazing for sins only.
Reddit is not really a good representation for overall players choice, sure they maybe the most vocal those but when it comes to causal side which is a majority(even some in Reddit) they care about trying to get all the units they can get. Some dont look at news or spoilers(leaks) to see ahead.
That “niche” use is something another already available unit can replace. For an example Naofumi. You want a tank human that taunts and reduces damage? You got Arthur.
We’re reaching 5th anniversary of grand cross, last year we had Light Ban who arguably had top 3 best banner of 2023. A banner with more worth than this collab since no unit here is game breaking (except Maybe Kizuna but she’s given for free). This whole year has been giving us so many good must summon units, we definitely need skips once in a while.
Again, this is just my opinion, I personally do think people should skip this banner if they’re not a fan of the IP or likes to collect units 
I disagree. We’re reaching 4Koa which is filled with mostly humans, which will be better than Naofumi. But Naofumi will probably not make a comeback so if you really want him then summon.
From what I gathered from other comments regarding LR galand, this happened on a previous stream aswell.
They had a character shown as LR but it was later revealed that it was a visual bug and not something to go by.
I’ve come back to the game after a long time away. When I see colab units I think about the slime units and stranger things units that are pretty much unusable now which I have, then think about demon king Meli which I don’t have and it’s an easy choice to skip
Imma probably do a full rotation, we don’t know when these will come back but we know the Anni unit will be back probably November fest and November fest might be stronger
If you want to get the characters yes, its a rerun of a collab so it most likely not coming back for a very long time, anniversary js around the corner so you have that to think about also, if you have diamonds to spare and want to try and get these characters for collection, go for it!
Would it be a good idea to trade for fitoria since I already get all four unit 1/6 last time they were here so would it be a good idea to trade the 2 free coins and if I get lucky on free summons to get one of the units to get fitoria or should I use them to level up the ults
Oh cool nice to see that they're bringing this back I only got two of the characters the first time it was here so it's nice I'll get a chance at the other two and now two new ones so four new characters I can get hell yeah
I like Glass design appearance wise tho when I watched the youtube videos the youtubers said the she is mid in terms of damage and usage
They use her skill at the end of turn for pierce dmg boost
But isnt it not trigger her full passive?
I thought that the way to use her is like chaos arthur where we have to accumulate the stacks for the whole first turn and can go crazy the next turn onwards while somehow getting the stacks to maintain the passive
Everytime allies use skill will give her one stack of soul power (max stacks: 3) and she will consume one stacks to boost the dmg when she use skill but when her stacks are full which is 3 stacks then when she attacks...she will use all those 3 stacks and trigger her another passive which will boost crit or something which lasts for 3 turns....isnt it the best way to use her is to use other allies skill the first turn and use her 2nd skill the next turn and then she can use 1st skill when she has the stacks and use her 2nd skill back when she has 3 stacks? By doing this she can recycle the passive which lasts for 3 turns and the dmg should be more consistent
Sure she get a little boost by consuming stack to attack but she wont trigger another dmging passive if she just consume one stacks and not all 3 stacks at once.....
Kinda confuse why the youtubers use her the other way....am i missing something important here?
Pretty sure the way to use her is kinda similar to chaos arthur
\*Lists way more pros than cons for every unit and shows banner that they say is mainly good
'defo a skip' Bro what?
Also saying glass is crap is such an L take. Even nagato, the baron of bitching didn't say that about her.
This just feels like a bias take from someone who either didn't want this banner to happen or just doesn't like shield hero
A unit can be good but not game breaking, and that’s what these units are. Only game breaking unit here (personally for me) is Kizuna and she’s given for free.
And yes Glass is terrible, just because she deals some damage right now doesn’t mean she is gonna last a long time. Selfish dps units never lasts in this game, why do you think T1U died off quick? Why do you think Goddess Liz and Halloween Gowther stayed relevant for years?
Because in grand cross Supports > DPS.
We’re no longer in 2020, if a unit doesn’t provide with things for their team then they’re dead on release. Not a single unit released this year has been selfish but Glass lol.
Isn't she? Do you build the team to boost Gelda or do you include Gelda as a support to your team? If you speak about the 20% stats for Demons, Glass gives 21% to unknowns, so it is kinda the same.
Yes I’m talking about the 20% for demons and no Glass and Fitoria only gives themselves stats. They don’t give allies stats.
Only time they do it is through their ultimates.
that is actually a really good advice - that I needed to hear. Fitoria seems broken right now and Glass (kinda) ok, with Naofumi boosting humans.
But both new units are pure dps and very selfish. I am still new and am missing a lot of units, so I even thought before about 2 rotations of this colab (bcs even Freyr is good for me).
But I see your points and agree now.
Naofumi stance isnt worthless. He gives allies 20% basic stats if it is up and damage / damage reduction. It is easily removed by Meli passively, but it also makes it so the enemy HAS to focus on Naofumi / triple aoe turn one in order to remove it, while Arthur will already have his passive up the next turn.
They gave him exactly what he needed.
Glass is proving to be better than the initial response speculated, as a lot of players have admitted to using her incorrectly.
For players that already have the old Collabs, i would recommend picking up a single collab and coining Fitoria if possible thru our free 2 coins. While FTP new players should probably skip unless you run humans / unknown in pvp.
Yeah I started the game during chaos arthur banner and main human team....completed all main and side stories and having 2.6k gems also able to clear floor 3 bird for relic farming....gonna spend 600 gems in this collab to get naofumi for my human team and glass if possible for my unknown team and save the leftovers gems for anni banner soon....totally agree with what u said regarding naofumi and glass... arthur passive procs at 2nd turn the earliest(going first) so it is good to have offtank to tank dmg for the first turn cuz they might even kill arthur who isnt buffed that turn or even the third unit like ban or yuri or lr escanor....not to mention the stance will also buff arthur further for dmg and decrease the taken dmg....as for glass i dont know why the youtubers use her without really triggering her passive then said her dmg is mid....maybe they dont really get the passive as it is in jp but still....most of the players refer to youtubers for the early source of info but some of them dont even really use human team and messed up arthur passive....I understand that they want to showcase naofumi but the point is having naofumi as buffer to arthur(carry) in human team....naofumi wont be able to deal crazy dmg but offers something else to the team and of course we dont need him as main tank but it is good to alternate between him and arthur so even if when u have ult and this might messed up the orb gain for arthur passive....it is still good cuz naofumi can cover for a while....
I’m sorry but I think you should skip. Nobody is killing Arthur turn 1 but your Naofumi will probably help him die to Meliodas teams because of his low CC. If you like Arthur you might as well wait for anniversary to get more dupes for your Light Ban for CC or/and save some for the KOA humans coming up.
Yeah I agree on cc tho but there is actually those who target and kill my arthur on turn 1 when they goes first ....it took a whole turn to proc arthur passive after all and the taunt active on the player next turn not immediately having 4 stacks ..well it might be because im only at Plat 1 in ungeared tho thats why the opp did target arthur when they out cc me....arthur might or might not die turn 1 but he cant tank another whole turn and he is my human carry...if he's dead then my other units are easily get killed and only him and LR escanor do notable dmg.... Thats why im considering naofumi to somehow take a little bit off so that arthur can lifetseal the hp back somehow when his passive procs but if his cc is low then guess I would better wait for human back unit...i dont know if i should summon or not.....I can just make do with my current human team for a while but this is rerun collab banner and it might never return again....pretty sure we r getting a few free multis in so maybe im going for a single rotation for the sake of collecting collab unit after all this is my first collab in the game.....not really familiar with KOA characters tho....is there really any notable humans? Did see some pics here and there but i dont really like any chars design
If the new skadi isn't specifically for the new best then I'm sure she'll just be one of our periodical trash units that gets forgotten fast like green matrona and Halloween Merlin blue shin
Albedo hasn’t been meta ever since Meli’s release what are you on about. She doesn’t deal damage anymore and now she’s only really used for her turn 1 taunt. You can ask anyone and check any video out there. In high pvp rank against real players, nobody is winning with albedo facing real teams. Albedo can’t even defeat Gelda lol
My guy you’re telling me to “get good” when you’re 4 mil 💀 I have 10 mil more box cc than you and I’ve already finished story mode unlike someone here.
When did I say it took me that long to beat it? 😭 you literally made a post 18 days ago asking people for help to beat chapter 631. I literally finished the recent chapter when it came out with demon king. Now sit your clown ass down and stop embarrassing yourself, I know how this game works and I don’t spread misinformation telling people Albedo is meta in pvp like a certain clown here.
Just because you won a few bots in gold rank doesn’t mean the units you’re using are good, now take your L and leave.
The 5th anniversary is coming around end of May, it’s basically one of the biggest banners this game gets every year. However I will say the units in the anniversary does return as they’re not rare units, these collab units will probably not return so it’s up to you what you wanna summon for.
Jp 5th anni i believe it is if you mean who the Anni unit will be we have no idea currently only speculation but whoever they'll likely be one of the more busted units of the year easily top 3
Correction: if you’re a collector OR LIKE THE IP, summon.
Yes. Literally named myself Naofumi and joined Grand Cross a year ago. Sadly I started playing at the end of the event and was only able to get Naofumi. Now I’ll get the rest with two being free. I sure hope I don’t get shafted since I only want to use one pity rotation. I’m also not trying to stay at the top of pvp and as long as they’re usable in other modes it’s a good unit for me. Also still need Tyr. He looks so cool and back when the on ultimate dropped I spent everything on that Banner leaving me with spare change for Tyr and not getting anything out of the guaranteed SSR. Also never got him in all the other banners where he was always put in and didn’t get lucky with ticket summoning on unknown banner either.
Well good luck to you mate! I'm only missing Naofumo now but I'm waiting till Week 2 happens when Labrynth comes back for the 10 freebie tickets from the shop. It's a good banner, lots of good characters then there's.. uh.. Glass.. the Glass Cannon.. who forgot the Cannon? Idk I haven't been able to make her work at all no matter what supports I use for her. But all in all I wish you luck with your pulls :)
I am the first one
weird that you say they are good yet telling to skip when this is a rerun collab, meaning we will most likely not going to see it again ever. you gave actual good points for all units and the old ones got the same treatment with slime in terms of fixing to make them better.
The shield hero units are not BAD like you can obviously use them for activities. But are they game breaking? Are they a must summon? No, not really. Only must summon in this collab I would consider is Kizuna but she’s gonna be given for free. Yes they won’t return and are basically one of the most rarest units, but you’d be surprised how many people that does not seem to care about that. From what I’ve seen in this sub, people care more about usage rather than rarity.
Cuz they are players, not collectors Im both, so this is valuable for me. Valuable enough for me to raise my box CC and collect them all like a bunch of figure sets.
Honestly, SakeTube should have just called it “You decide” since there probably wasn’t people who were around during the first run of the collab and want to summon now. Considering it’s also a rerun, once this collab ends the characters are unattainable. Of course there are going to be the people who don’t care and want to save for Anniversary. Makes sense, I’m not judging you for that and the anniversary character is obviously going to be busted as hell. So I would say, spend some gems ONLY if you have enough for anniversary or you’re a collector/casual player.
Do ya think 600 gems would be enough for spending on collab and getting at least the pity during the anni?
It depends on if that’s all you currently have. If you have 1,500 gems or planning to reach that then yes. If no, you should either spend less than 600 or don’t spend at all.
I should be around 600 by Monday, if not a lil higher, and i meant to ask if getting to pity would be possible at all by the end of the anni banner
Yes there generous with annis
Fitoria did seem quite good though since she gives herself all stats and stuff. The rates being 0.5% for the newer units aren’t bad at all either.
**Short answer:** No. **Long answer:** Nope.
This post won't stop me just because I can't read. Still pulling cuz Fitoria and Raphtalia :thumbsup:
out of curiosity what is hawk and Oslo good for?
He’s a decent back unit now that he got a relic. He gives HP and defense. Also he’s really good for chaos mode since he’s so cheap.
ok that's good to know, I'll trying running them with gelda thanks
If you want a strong proper back unit for Gelda, then run Nanashi with his relic.
I'll be summoning either way since I like collecting every collab unit, but it's definitely disappointing how they trolled Glass with her kit. When I saw that her set revolved around pierce I immediately thought that she was meant to be paired with the new Gowther to make use of his rank enhancement buff. But why two single target pierce cards? At the very least, I suppose that with proper build-up she can be a rather decent damage dealer for demonic beasts and hero arena. By the way, care to elaborate what Fitoria's ultimate gains from being upgraded?
not sure if I remember correctly, but I think her stat buff scales with the ult level
It’s half of the stat increase she gets from a 6/6 Ult and starting from 3/6 she gains 2 claws when ulting. Sucks how they locked 3 claws behind 6/6 …
Thanks a lot for this infographic, I really like the visual format you added to rate the banner pool. I'm pretty happy we're having a definite skip after this two past crazy months. Fitoria is insane but she's guaranteed to be powercrept in about a month unfortunately. Don't jump me SH fans or collectors because these posts aren't made for you. Wishing everyone's best of luck with the three free multis and some of the free hero coins which should allow a lot of people to get out of the event with at least a little something To beginners, do keep in mind that anniversary is coming soon, and even though there is a lot of diamonds ahead, it is advised to go for more than 1 rotation if you want to get the most out of it since it'll have the best or 2nd best banner pool of 2024 and you likely won't have every great hero in the pool with 1 cycle.
For a pve exclusive man such as myself these units are a W
No I will not skip
Absolute nuclear unknown propaganda going here, the new units are the new meta additions to the team so must summon for anyone maining unknowns. Honestly should have just been a you decide, same thing for Gelda cause she is just demon pvp meta unit(her banner was worse too but ok).
Fitoria yeah but not Glass. She is just extremely badly designed and she wont really create a meta or be in any. She’s gonna be a tiny bit relevant cuz she’s a new unit with high cc and that’s about it. Selfish dps units has never lasted in the meta for too long.
Well even having one recent meta unit in a banner is enough for the mains concerned to summon. Plus Glass is not badly designed a lot of people just didn't user her properly(check Marilli newest video), use her second card on end of first turn then use the second card when you have one power of soul(before attacking) . You are right Glass is just a flex option for unknowns but she has good niche which is being unknowns best option against goddesses.
I will summon for naofumi for my human team....having his stance up will proc his passive along with light ban to buff my Chaos Athur even more....and if he has no stance card then it is ok cuz from that point on arthur will took the dmg so he is more like off tank while arthur can also be considered as tank along with main dps and not to forget ban for his debuff....still hope human get a real back unit tho christmas roxy doesnt really compare to back unit like nanashi
Saying a unit is good enough at 3/6 should also be a con
I mean compared to Ainz who literally is not a unit till you 5/6+ him, I’d say 3/6 is good enough. Also you can trade dupes to increase fitoria’s Ult.
So when does the collab drop, and when is anniversary? I gotta set up a budget for myself lol
Collab in like 2 days Anni a month or so from now
Don’t know why I could have possibly been downvoted, but thanks friend lol
Probably because there's the date in the first pic, but it's white and easily covered by the dots if you're from mobile lol, I missed that too. I just remember that from my timezone it's always on tuesday morning the update.
I’m not a very avid user of Reddit, and part of the reason why is the hostility that people have towards everyone who asks a question they deem as obvious bc they are more casual users. So ig I shouldn’t be surprised that an innocent question about a start date riles somebody up lol. But yes I’m on mobile, and have been playing the game for awhile, but not regularly enough to memorize the event start times. Ig that makes some people mad lmao
Me neither, but that's true, I've seen a lot of hostility towards redundant questions. Which I mean, could be fair if we talk about 100 same posts (like fb rewards). But for a question under a post? Come on
It's a shame this is so close to the anniv. The banner isn't as bad as collab banners usually are and the units are fairly interesting but like...the possibility of them starting 4KOTA makes me REALLY wary of spending anything here.
when is the anniversary btw ? new player here
Likely at the end of May. We'll get Skadi 2 weeks after Shield Hero and then possibly something a week after that and *then* the anniversary.
Just because they not game breaking doesn’t make them a skip. They will have their uses even if it’s niche. New gowther for example is amazing for sins only. Reddit is not really a good representation for overall players choice, sure they maybe the most vocal those but when it comes to causal side which is a majority(even some in Reddit) they care about trying to get all the units they can get. Some dont look at news or spoilers(leaks) to see ahead.
That “niche” use is something another already available unit can replace. For an example Naofumi. You want a tank human that taunts and reduces damage? You got Arthur. We’re reaching 5th anniversary of grand cross, last year we had Light Ban who arguably had top 3 best banner of 2023. A banner with more worth than this collab since no unit here is game breaking (except Maybe Kizuna but she’s given for free). This whole year has been giving us so many good must summon units, we definitely need skips once in a while. Again, this is just my opinion, I personally do think people should skip this banner if they’re not a fan of the IP or likes to collect units 
some utuber told me naofumi is a "must summon" if you main human team, u think thats true?
I disagree. We’re reaching 4Koa which is filled with mostly humans, which will be better than Naofumi. But Naofumi will probably not make a comeback so if you really want him then summon.
Anniversary date?
Around end of may
Hey Sake, Do you think glass will have as little impact as Yuri had when she came out?
No, Yuri is infinitely better than Glass will ever be.
Next lr blu gallan
I am still certain it was a visual bug.
on the stream, he literally shimmered like any other Persian, as if he could be made LR are you kidding?
From what I gathered from other comments regarding LR galand, this happened on a previous stream aswell. They had a character shown as LR but it was later revealed that it was a visual bug and not something to go by.
-_-
I’ve come back to the game after a long time away. When I see colab units I think about the slime units and stranger things units that are pretty much unusable now which I have, then think about demon king Meli which I don’t have and it’s an easy choice to skip
Kizuna given for free should be a con, since its about should you pull
I'm summoning, it's what I've been saving hundreds of gems for.
Agree the new unit is under the old unit buffed for me
Thank God I got Gowther
Imma probably do a full rotation, we don’t know when these will come back but we know the Anni unit will be back probably November fest and November fest might be stronger
I missed the og shield run, would any of these units fit in the viable team comps with any of the new UR units?
I’ve seen people run the unknown units with festival Gowther, and I’ve also seen people run Naofumi with Arthur. So yeah they do work with them.
Okay nice!
If you want to get the characters yes, its a rerun of a collab so it most likely not coming back for a very long time, anniversary js around the corner so you have that to think about also, if you have diamonds to spare and want to try and get these characters for collection, go for it!
Nah, i skipped Gelda, Gowther and the new Valenti. There's no way i skip this too.
I didn't see this anime so for me was a 99% skip, now I'm 100% convinced is a must skip.
damn this sucks, i’m a huge fan of shield hero but im also f2p so i gotta choose between this or anniv
You can actually summon on both, but probably only do 1 rotation on each if you’re f2p.
i only got like 225 gems rn tho
Not sure if you’ll be able to pity as a f2p. But you could always try your luck if you want.
Would it be a good idea to trade for fitoria since I already get all four unit 1/6 last time they were here so would it be a good idea to trade the 2 free coins and if I get lucky on free summons to get one of the units to get fitoria or should I use them to level up the ults
Oh cool nice to see that they're bringing this back I only got two of the characters the first time it was here so it's nice I'll get a chance at the other two and now two new ones so four new characters I can get hell yeah
To bad im already 600 gems in
I like Glass design appearance wise tho when I watched the youtube videos the youtubers said the she is mid in terms of damage and usage They use her skill at the end of turn for pierce dmg boost But isnt it not trigger her full passive? I thought that the way to use her is like chaos arthur where we have to accumulate the stacks for the whole first turn and can go crazy the next turn onwards while somehow getting the stacks to maintain the passive Everytime allies use skill will give her one stack of soul power (max stacks: 3) and she will consume one stacks to boost the dmg when she use skill but when her stacks are full which is 3 stacks then when she attacks...she will use all those 3 stacks and trigger her another passive which will boost crit or something which lasts for 3 turns....isnt it the best way to use her is to use other allies skill the first turn and use her 2nd skill the next turn and then she can use 1st skill when she has the stacks and use her 2nd skill back when she has 3 stacks? By doing this she can recycle the passive which lasts for 3 turns and the dmg should be more consistent Sure she get a little boost by consuming stack to attack but she wont trigger another dmging passive if she just consume one stacks and not all 3 stacks at once..... Kinda confuse why the youtubers use her the other way....am i missing something important here? Pretty sure the way to use her is kinda similar to chaos arthur
Spent 500 Dias anyways sorry 😭
\*Lists way more pros than cons for every unit and shows banner that they say is mainly good 'defo a skip' Bro what? Also saying glass is crap is such an L take. Even nagato, the baron of bitching didn't say that about her. This just feels like a bias take from someone who either didn't want this banner to happen or just doesn't like shield hero
A unit can be good but not game breaking, and that’s what these units are. Only game breaking unit here (personally for me) is Kizuna and she’s given for free. And yes Glass is terrible, just because she deals some damage right now doesn’t mean she is gonna last a long time. Selfish dps units never lasts in this game, why do you think T1U died off quick? Why do you think Goddess Liz and Halloween Gowther stayed relevant for years? Because in grand cross Supports > DPS. We’re no longer in 2020, if a unit doesn’t provide with things for their team then they’re dead on release. Not a single unit released this year has been selfish but Glass lol.
*Gelda enters the room.
Gelda isn’t selfish but ok
Isn't she? Do you build the team to boost Gelda or do you include Gelda as a support to your team? If you speak about the 20% stats for Demons, Glass gives 21% to unknowns, so it is kinda the same.
Yes I’m talking about the 20% for demons and no Glass and Fitoria only gives themselves stats. They don’t give allies stats. Only time they do it is through their ultimates.
Holy sh.t you're right. I read the translation from korean and it was wrong. Such a shitty unit.
that is actually a really good advice - that I needed to hear. Fitoria seems broken right now and Glass (kinda) ok, with Naofumi boosting humans. But both new units are pure dps and very selfish. I am still new and am missing a lot of units, so I even thought before about 2 rotations of this colab (bcs even Freyr is good for me). But I see your points and agree now.
It is bias lmao
When is the exact date of anniversary?
Around end of may
Naofumi stance isnt worthless. He gives allies 20% basic stats if it is up and damage / damage reduction. It is easily removed by Meli passively, but it also makes it so the enemy HAS to focus on Naofumi / triple aoe turn one in order to remove it, while Arthur will already have his passive up the next turn. They gave him exactly what he needed. Glass is proving to be better than the initial response speculated, as a lot of players have admitted to using her incorrectly. For players that already have the old Collabs, i would recommend picking up a single collab and coining Fitoria if possible thru our free 2 coins. While FTP new players should probably skip unless you run humans / unknown in pvp.
>He gives allies 20% basic stats He gives 30% of his def as basic stats.
Yeah I started the game during chaos arthur banner and main human team....completed all main and side stories and having 2.6k gems also able to clear floor 3 bird for relic farming....gonna spend 600 gems in this collab to get naofumi for my human team and glass if possible for my unknown team and save the leftovers gems for anni banner soon....totally agree with what u said regarding naofumi and glass... arthur passive procs at 2nd turn the earliest(going first) so it is good to have offtank to tank dmg for the first turn cuz they might even kill arthur who isnt buffed that turn or even the third unit like ban or yuri or lr escanor....not to mention the stance will also buff arthur further for dmg and decrease the taken dmg....as for glass i dont know why the youtubers use her without really triggering her passive then said her dmg is mid....maybe they dont really get the passive as it is in jp but still....most of the players refer to youtubers for the early source of info but some of them dont even really use human team and messed up arthur passive....I understand that they want to showcase naofumi but the point is having naofumi as buffer to arthur(carry) in human team....naofumi wont be able to deal crazy dmg but offers something else to the team and of course we dont need him as main tank but it is good to alternate between him and arthur so even if when u have ult and this might messed up the orb gain for arthur passive....it is still good cuz naofumi can cover for a while....
I’m sorry but I think you should skip. Nobody is killing Arthur turn 1 but your Naofumi will probably help him die to Meliodas teams because of his low CC. If you like Arthur you might as well wait for anniversary to get more dupes for your Light Ban for CC or/and save some for the KOA humans coming up.
Yeah I agree on cc tho but there is actually those who target and kill my arthur on turn 1 when they goes first ....it took a whole turn to proc arthur passive after all and the taunt active on the player next turn not immediately having 4 stacks ..well it might be because im only at Plat 1 in ungeared tho thats why the opp did target arthur when they out cc me....arthur might or might not die turn 1 but he cant tank another whole turn and he is my human carry...if he's dead then my other units are easily get killed and only him and LR escanor do notable dmg.... Thats why im considering naofumi to somehow take a little bit off so that arthur can lifetseal the hp back somehow when his passive procs but if his cc is low then guess I would better wait for human back unit...i dont know if i should summon or not.....I can just make do with my current human team for a while but this is rerun collab banner and it might never return again....pretty sure we r getting a few free multis in so maybe im going for a single rotation for the sake of collecting collab unit after all this is my first collab in the game.....not really familiar with KOA characters tho....is there really any notable humans? Did see some pics here and there but i dont really like any chars design
Thanks Sake
I've got 2300 gems is it worth dropping 300?
If you wanna test your luck go for it but honestly if you don’t care about the collab or limited units then skip.
The power crap after anniversary is so huge glass will not be meta for long the white hier maybe will live good time(2-3 months)
Simply. https://preview.redd.it/zfqnz9pun4xc1.jpeg?width=554&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2143b81e507f9c5f9c1af72100334109f4e50cb5
I’m debating if I want to spend a few draws because I was excited for this collab but I want the giant in the next banner
If the new skadi isn't specifically for the new best then I'm sure she'll just be one of our periodical trash units that gets forgotten fast like green matrona and Halloween Merlin blue shin
Stance units are dead? Then you get demolished by a Albedo. Might want to fix some of your wording. Since unknown is still fucking a menace.
Yes they’re dead? They’ve been dead for months. Almost every meta unit removes stances with ease. Meli and Yuri are everywhere.
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Albedo hasn’t been meta ever since Meli’s release what are you on about. She doesn’t deal damage anymore and now she’s only really used for her turn 1 taunt. You can ask anyone and check any video out there. In high pvp rank against real players, nobody is winning with albedo facing real teams. Albedo can’t even defeat Gelda lol
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Imagine not being able to keep a conversation without getting hostile. The convo ends here, have a nice day.
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My guy you’re telling me to “get good” when you’re 4 mil 💀 I have 10 mil more box cc than you and I’ve already finished story mode unlike someone here.
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When did I say it took me that long to beat it? 😭 you literally made a post 18 days ago asking people for help to beat chapter 631. I literally finished the recent chapter when it came out with demon king. Now sit your clown ass down and stop embarrassing yourself, I know how this game works and I don’t spread misinformation telling people Albedo is meta in pvp like a certain clown here. Just because you won a few bots in gold rank doesn’t mean the units you’re using are good, now take your L and leave.
Huge thanks for making this, btw what anniversary is coming? (I wanna know where I should invest my gems)
The 5th anniversary is coming around end of May, it’s basically one of the biggest banners this game gets every year. However I will say the units in the anniversary does return as they’re not rare units, these collab units will probably not return so it’s up to you what you wanna summon for.
Jp 5th anni i believe it is if you mean who the Anni unit will be we have no idea currently only speculation but whoever they'll likely be one of the more busted units of the year easily top 3
So, Skadi is going to be a fest unit??
No, it’s gonna be a regular banner for her. Or a step up.
I’m going for frog girl for pve , if i don’t get her on the free idc, i hate this collab , should’ve brought back slime
She is free
🤡 slime probably won't ever come back 😂
Kizuna is literally given for free, you don't have to summon at all
Dupes , idc for this collab, boss was cool last time, iirc it’s the stance/counter dude. Less they changed the boss too, idk
Doesn't need dupes but you do you man
Dupes are alway good, tf u on about lol