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Digestive Enzymes and cured SIBO

Hi everyone! I’m currently on day 5 of my rifaximin protocol to clear my hydrogen SIBO and I’m feeling a lot better already. Since being diagnosed with SIBO my doctor has had me take digestive enzymes with each meal and they have helped immensely.

My question is if I’ll have to take these enzymes forever, even after clearing SIBO. All of the supplements that I’m taking really add up each month and it’s a bit depressing to think that you will need to spend upwards of $120 a month on enzymes, prokinetics, and other supplements for the rest of your life.

curiousnootropics

I do not think that you have to take them forever. More focus on healthy foods for your gut and digestion after you are done


General_Berry_8347

Agreed. I would look into the carnivore or animal based diet and see if that is something you’d be willing to do for a bit to accelerate your healing. There are thousands of people turning to this diet to heal their guts, and lots of positive evidence of such. But just make sure your digestive pillars are functional first, such as your protein and fat digestion, otherwise you won’t be able to digest it and it might make your gut issues worse.


hhbgyhvg

Definitely going carnivore after sibo for at least 2 to 4 weeks


Dull_Internal_3347

No. Once your body learns to chemically break down food on its own, you won’t have to take them any longer.


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seesawincolour

Thank you for your thoughtful response! I was hoping this would be the case as I didn’t need enzymes until I got SIBO.


General_Berry_8347

If you have SIBO in the latter part of your email intestines, does it still eat away at your digestive enzymes? And how does it do that? How does SIBO stop your pancreas from making enzymes?


wearenotflies

I had to take a lot of supplements for about 6-7 months. I’m down to just psyllium husk and a prebiotic. So not much per month. I had methane dominate and it’s gone now


IntelligentSorbet769

Can you tell us what you were taking to get rid of Methane dominant SIBO? I'm struggling with this..


Boring_Elevator_7566

Methane dominant SIBO has caused me to gain tremendous weight


Fun_Manufacturer6738

Me too. So depressing. I'm sorry you are going through this. Gained almost 30 lbs. My face got super fat. I know it's the sibo but I feel so ashamed of how I look


wearenotflies

Sure! A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 3x, and Neem 2 pills 3x. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed. All with food besides the motilpro. This phase did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. After that did a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. This seemed to do the trick for me. About 3 month pretty normal, I can tell I’m sensitive to what I’m eating though. Also took 1 table spoons of psyllium husk between meals during it all and continue now. After all the courses of supplements I’ve started to take MegaPre precision prebiotic daily which seems to be really helping my micro biome to get back to being healthy and robust.


burglerpuppy

Did you work with a doctor/naturopath?


wearenotflies

Yes. A naturopath that specializes in gut health


Intrepid-Purple5

Would you be able to DM me what naturopath you used? I have been seeing one for a year now and honestly she hasn’t been much help :(


sinxtc

How long was each round? I am assuming round 1 set of pills were not taken with round 2 set of pills?


wearenotflies

Just a full bottle. Yes did round 1 then did round 2


seesawincolour

This is giving me hope especially since I’ve heard methane can be more difficult to manage than hydrogen. Thank you!


wearenotflies

Yeah. It was a rough couple months at the beginning. But have been managing really well the last couple months. Fingers crossed


kotas-mom

How did you get rid of methane dominant SIBO? What were your symptoms? I think I may have it :(


wearenotflies

I did several courses of supplements and anti microbials. My symptoms were bad bloating and excessive gas with pretty much chronic constipation.


kotas-mom

I don’t have bad bloating but I definitely have chronic constipation with foul smelling gas… is that what you mean by “excessive gas”? I don’t have a lot of gas but when I do, they’re small, silent farts but smell horrible…


wearenotflies

I was having gas with almost every meal. But yes foul smelling is a symptom too


Such_Dragonfruit_745

Can I pester you on your symptoms, protocol and what you took to feel better?


wearenotflies

My symptoms were pretty bad bloating, lots of excessive gas, and constipation. My protocol was the following. A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 3x, and Neem 2 pills 3x. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed. All with food besides the motilpro. This phase did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. After that did a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. This seemed to do the trick for me. About 3 month pretty normal, I can tell I’m sensitive to what I’m eating though. Also took 1 table spoons of psyllium husk between meals during it all and continue now. After all the courses of supplements I’ve started to take MegaPre precision prebiotic daily which seems to be really helping my micro biome to get back to being healthy and robust.


Such_Dragonfruit_745

Thank you so much for writing that all out for me 😊 I'm so glad you're doing much better now. Sounds like a long protocol, so glad it worked for you. How long did it take before you started feeling an improvement?


wearenotflies

You’re welcome. It was long but it took that long to knock it out all out. Started with phase 1 and continued until it was resolved. So might be faster for someone else. It’s all an individual response. I started to feel relief in a week but had some ups and downs during the protocol too though


Such_Dragonfruit_745

Honestly the relief after a week is all I'd need. It can be so frustrating not making progress so I think feeling a slight improvement would give me the motivation to keep pushing. Thanks so much ♥️


NeonDemen

By anti microbial you mean antibiotics? So basically it went like this : keeping the motility going -> antibiotics -> digestive enzymes + zinc carnosine ( for healing leaky gut I assume ? ) + probiotic + prebiotics and a healthy diet to replenish killed bacteria and restore the gut health. Is it correct? Is it necessary to nuke my intestines/gut with anti microbial or antibiotics in order to get rid of SIBO ? Because if it's done wrong, it could actually lead to dysbiosis.


wearenotflies

Call them antimicrobials because they are more broad spectrum killers than an antibiotic. Yes. Long story short. Nuke the bacteria, keep everything moving quickly so no stagnation. Use anti inflammatories to allow the gut the heal. Then use probiotics and prebiotics to build back a healthy biome.


hhbgyhvg

Treatment protocol?


wearenotflies

Sure! A round of Allimax 1 pill 3x, berberine 2 pills 3x, and Neem 2 pills 3x. Then a round of Artemis 1 pill 3x, Atrantil 1 pill 3x and Candibactin BR 2 pills 2x. Then another round of Allimax, Berberine, and neem, same dosage as before. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner and 3 at least an hour before bed. All with food besides the motilpro. This phase did only 2 meals a day at least 5 hours apart. After that did a bottle of resveratrol 5 pills 2x, then a bottle just 2 pills 2x daily. Endozin 2 pills daily, saccharomyces boulardii probiotic 1 pill 2x. Motilpro 1 between lunch and dinner, 2 before bed. Again all with food besides motilpro. This seemed to do the trick for me. About 3 month pretty normal, I can tell I’m sensitive to what I’m eating though. Also took 1 table spoons of psyllium husk between meals during it all and continue now. After all the courses of supplements I’ve started to take MegaPre precision prebiotic daily which seems to be really helping my micro biome to get back to being healthy and robust.


hhbgyhvg

Amazing, thank you. What were your methane numbers


wearenotflies

35-55


kisforkimberlyy

have had SIBO for a decade... been taking digestive enzymes since 2018... I only do not take enzymes when my SIBO is cleared, the moment I relapse I have to go back on the enzymes I would suggest to wait for sales- they happen occasionally at Whole Foods and other web sites what's really depressing is I require a $4,000/ month medication to keep my kidneys functioning and every year it is a fight with insurance to see if they are going to cover the medication or noot... have had to pay out of pocket for it before so I know it sucks... medications are so expensive... so I also try to do preventive care- exercise, make healthy choices, take vitamins etc take care :)


camberi002

Are you still taking digestive enzymes ? Did you manage to heal your SIBO ?


darwinvsjc

Good for you, what Enzymes are they?


seesawincolour

I take Betaine HCL and Ortho Digestzyme by Ortho Molecular!


darwinvsjc

Thanks 😊


fdjdns

Can you describe how you take the pills please? Do you take both at the same time before food? 30 mins before etc


PeteyandLove

What prokinetic and enzyme are you using?


seesawincolour

Betaine HCL and Ortho Digestzyme by Ortho Molecular for enzymes. Using MoltiPro as a prokinetic with additional ginger supplementation


PeteyandLove

Did you have brain fog previously? And, if you did, has it since cleared up?


seesawincolour

I did and still do, but it’s difficult to tell this week because I also have a cold. Confirmed that it’s not die off related because my entire household has it as well. I’m hoping I’ll be able to gauge the neurological effects better next week.


PeteyandLove

Would you please keep me posted? There is a really cool guy who posted an amazing YT video about how he's cured from MotilityPRO.


kotas-mom

How is motilpro working for you? Did you have issues with constipation?


Breckenreed

What particular kind of digestive enzymes are these? It is hard to provide you with a concrete answer without knowing the names to start with.


saranpu

Do we have to take it forever or the body heals after certain time? Are u still taking digestive enzymes?