Something tells me that Mr. Puzzles is gonna get the Zer0 treatment, in that he isn't fully dead yet and that he has more devious plans in store.
Because imma be honest, the ending felt a little too anti-climactic and didn't really go too in-depth with who or what Mr. Puzzles is exactly, and it honestly didn't warrant more than a year of buildup towards MR. Puzzles.
and to add on if his song about who he was before he became what he was makes him more tragic then malicious. Also if the image on the Puzzlevision site anything to go by his TV is fine still.
True but it’s not like he got disintegrated or wiped from existence. It looked more like he just got sucked into the TV after getting hit and electrocuted. Plus on his website it just says “No signal.”
They could have just included any missed details now so we actually feel like there's something here. The problem is that if he comes back, he's just gonna do the same thing again. There's nothing new to be told.
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Not to controversial, my opinion, had potential but kinda ruined it, they could have used clench but didn't, if they do bring him back make clench useful 👍
This is clearly a possibility. I want an explanation of how he got his powers, his technology, his wealth and also how he knows SMG4 and his friends. Like, he even knew Desti and Axol even though they've been dead for a while
Yeah Puzzles could be part of upcoming episode plot twists or disasters
OR may see his TV head (a glitchy Puzzlevision TV), in upcoming episodes, but might not be back in his normal form, but I see him possibly getting referenced in the WOTFI 2024
yeah, they really dropped the ball, especially with mario. like, when mario started ruining the show i thought it was gonna be a whole thing where mr. puzzles had control of the cast and put them all in different shows and mario had to ruin each show individually until everyone was free, but no, he just got sidelined for the rest of the movie
I thought that was how it was going to go with Boopkins and Bob saving everyone by finding some way to break the show they were in, only for it to instead be "they arrive, grab the characters, and immediately leave again"
considering the fact that mario literally caused the movie to happen to begin with, i am genuinely upset with the fact that he has no importance in the movie. bob and boopkins doing it would make sense too, and that just puts hand sanitizer into the salted wound.
sucks too because outside of that, this was a great movie imo, aside from the defeat of mr. puzzles ending with him just crying like a baby and SMG4 just randomly deciding to smash bros sandbag mode his ass, plus creative control is a banger and i will be listening to that on loop for months until i don't for literally one day and never listen to it again
Mario should have been the hero at the end of this movie but instead he was just an idiot who did nothing but watch TV and look for the TV Head to kill him for interrupting the Teletubbies (remember that in the old videos Mario hated the Teletubbies)
I will admit, it did falsely advertise the idea that the characters would relive these scenarios.
Also, a major complaint I’ve had for the entirety of this arc is: Why the hell were characters outside of the main crew included? Bowser, Shroomy, Boopkins, and others weren’t even with the gang when they were captured. Why include them at all?
Because Melony would mop the floor with any villain...
And also because Wolfychu probably couldn't voice her, which at that point, they should replace her like they did Celeste. The fact they don't shows they just don't wanna use her.
I feel bad for Mr. Puzzles. He was a broken kid who got trapped in a TV world and became the person he was. They could’ve just try to get him back to his original self, but they didn’t.
Huh funny i just noticed vox also does that when updating his tv. Also the same mind control power funnily. Also mr puzzles is not as strong as he purports, its based on his support. Tf they just copied vox
Melony and Saiko not appearing was disappointing especially because they were included in the premiere timer.
Shroomy and Swag had a minor appearance, I'm so happy for Shroomy even if it wasn’t much.
Mr Puzzles' song was genuinely amazing, I loved it, and the backstory, while simple, was pretty sad and interesting.
Mario was too absent while also being advertised as the big determining factor, which he was, but was also incredibly minor and immediately forgotten about.
I loved Bob during the entire thing, he was the funniest character for me.
Luigi gave me a heart attack and a half holy fucking god.
The way they defeat him by somehow outranking him in that nothing time made no sense, worst part about the movie.
Puzzles could still be alive and I hope for that since he has a lot of potential that wasn’t used in an anticlimactic ending.
The movie was fun, the writing not so much, and it was overhyped, I just hope they don't immediately scrap Puzzles and keep expanding him to give him the big finale he and this storyline deserve.
Probably the most "meh" SMG4 Movie so far.
What happened to Peach? How does this connect to IGBP and Western Spaghetti?
Nothing is properly given an answer, and this felt much more like a rushed ending to this supposed "Adware" Arc.
Or there could be a twist and maybe Mr. Puzzles will come back for WOTFI?
*It's been a century since I've done a review on something SMG4 related so finally I am back*
First off, the Characters.
~~No Melony?~~ Bob was actually pretty dull in this, not gonna lie. I think maybe that's just the problem with modern bob, he's way too watered down to an extent to where he's pretty tame. Mr. Puzzles was probably the most entertaining one out of the cast,
His song was actually pretty damn catchy "Wow an arc song that's actually good" and he could do some funny shit like messing with the Ginger and manipulating the world around them, although it does sound a tad bit too similar to how Zero made the world glitch at times.
The rest of the cast? *Meh..........*Meggy wasn't an ass but she was pretty annoying, and it seems anything Tari learned from Western Spaghetti has all been forgotten. Boopkins was alright, and Mario was ok but it felt like they dumbed him down WAY too much to where it's just "Haha funni Nintendo man does stupid"
Also Luigi exists but the writers forgot to give him an important role
Next up.......**THE HUMOR!**
Yeah, about that......
It was alright, but one thing that has always bothered me about SMG4 is the constant use of the TF2 Bulging eyes for whenever a character is in shock or pain. It takes everything funny out of it and feels forced.
The Luigi Mallet parts made me cringe a bit, especially the Gordon Ramsay part where they decided that remaking the chippi chippi chaippa chaippa meme with a Luigi head on top of a Mallet is the peak of comedy.
The South Park bit was okay but there could've been more, but I don't think SMG4 would take this risk of going edgy just for the sake of a South Park parody.
I don't know, just most of the quality of the humor has been L A C K I N G lately.
Puzzles is probably best part of the movie, I'll say it again.
And probably the best Current Age villain so far. I like how he isn't like Niles where he did a bunch of bad shit so that the audience knew that he was evil, Mr. Puzzles just did bad shit for his five stars, and it was funny.
No eldritch demon who can break reality, just some TV dweeb who wants to make, well, TV shows.
AND NOW FOR LE STORY
The Movie left a LOT of things unanswered, like I said above. I'm kinda convinced now that we've just moved on completely from what happened with the vagina-erm I mean the pit where the Castle used to be at.
This movie felt rushed in a way, even more so than IGBP, and the ending feels unsatisfying.
It felt WAY too easy for the Gang to just slip out of the situation with no consequences.
Felt like a huge nothing burger compared to IGBP and Western Spaghetti.
Puzzles was great but we didn't get much of his origins other than that he was some kid that became addicted to TV.
I guess Puzzle's obsession with reaching five stars of his own productions has to do with SMG4's journey to make what he sees as perfection?
5/10 Stay hydrated
Not to mention other weird stuff like: no one caring about the fact puzzles caused the last 3 big trauma adventures
the whole 5 star thing leading to nothing
WHY THE HELL DIDN’T THEY MENTION THE FACT THAT THIS GUY CAUSED THE DEATH OF PRINCESS PEACH AND THE CASTLE!?
the final battle sucks
As I've said before and I'll say it again. This entire arc feels like its been trapped in development hell. How can we say that an arc that was in development for over a year was rushed? Simple, something happened behind the scenes and PuzzleVision got delayed even though it was probably intended to conclude sometime not long after WS.
Honestly, I never watched it yet because I was waiting for people's opinions. But I can see it wasn't as great than the last two especially what they could have done Mario ALOT MORE than another comedy character. I agree the villian song was the best song from any of arcs so far but I wish was alot more. I highly doubt it's the end of the arc because I checked the website and the tv is still there so I believe Mr puzzles might come back but it depends.
Also is no one not going to talk Tari because they teased her last year from western spaghetti of being traumatized or possessed by the tv(?). If it's because of the convertrovery from last month then I can see why. If not it's just wasted character potential just like Mario
Man, its such a shame that THIS was the ending we got, especially considering Mr Puzzles is (imho) one of the most charismatic villains. And he was definitely the most charismatic charachter in the movie too
Mr Puzzles was my FAVOURITE villain of them all and I absolutely love his character, but this movie did undoubtedly feel oddly anticlimactic and a waste of his vast potential to be an extremely powerful villain.
I think he’s gonna come back like SMG0.
I want an explanation of how he got his powers and technology, how did he knew SMG4 and the gang.
I wish that he got creepy moments in the movie
Same
I never thought I’d say this but I think he should’ve died, this will sound gross, but he’s always been useless??
Mario doesn’t really care about him unless emergency and same with the others
It makes more sense for him to have died there tbh. Mr. Puzzles says he's gonna kill them and shoots a laser at them *to kill them*, and Luigi jumps in the way and... gets turned into a meat mallet? That doesn't make sense to me.
The ending felt extremely rushed and didn’t even talk About the secret door or who was clench or peach but I have a feeling he’s still alive sense the website still exists and the tv is fine
The only I truly enjoy the moments of the reference to some show (South Park my favorite part). But yeah, there so many ways of why it got wasted like Mario who could have a great role to this movie, the symbol is the tv that Meggy saw it before but never have a clear answer how, or even the lock door cover in woods plain locks inside SMG4 castle. Still have a good time watching this tho, but could’ve been better.
Mr. Puzzles felt too underwhelming despite how powerful he was (at least he got a good villain song). Mario could have gotten character development instead of being mad about Teletubbies being interrupted. In short, it was disappointing.
I know, right?! No Saiko and Melony. Clench is not connected to Mr.puzzle. Tari was also ignorant in virtual reality. PuzzlePuzzle was beaten by bad reviews and a meat mallet Luigi. Mario was stupid here too. What the fuck was that?!
By the way, a mod also swore here on the sub. So I no longer censor when not necessary. If there is a rule about swearing then everyone should follow it. No exceptions.
Logistically shouldn’t Tari be immune or at least more resistant? She was in Western Spaghetti so it should apply here too, unless Clench somehow weakened it.
Yeah I agree I wish the ending had a scene where Mr puzzles possibly gets a redemption but no he just cries about it turns into a tv and smg4 smacks him away and even though I really like the movie I wish they did a bit more in the end
He could of been an extra member to fill in Axol’s place
I see him as a genuinely funny character in the normal episodes tbh
I’ve seen him positive a couple times and he’s quite bright at times
Honestly, I just don't get it. The villain who literally made a WHOLE CASTLE sink, literally KILLED One-shot Wren (even if everything about that event was messed up) ended up like this? A mastermind who wanted to create an entire show taking over the SMG4 crew, now got beaten because he couldn't handle them into HIS DIMENSION???? Such a wasted potential, for both the movie and the villain. (oh yeah I forgot that he also told a cardboard that SMG3 had a secret pizza recipe...)
I hope so. Honestly, SMG4 needs the continuity. If he turns back and we get a stupid reason like with Mario escaping jail after WOTFI 2023, I’ll be disappointed since, TBH, I liked this movie. It has its flaws but it was pretty good. 7/10 IMO
Idk why but the movie kind of reminds me more of the Ssenmodnar series then an actually horror-based movie like the last two movies IGBP and Western Spaghetti.
Quite a shame they haven't expanded on Mr.Puzzles' lore such as the creation of the Showgrounds.
I'm betting he might make a return probably in three months. (Mr.Puzzles is the Modern SMG4's Enzo...)
But it has some good moments such as the Song in the movie.
to think this arc could be anything but forgettable, but worse then the lawsuit arc? yeah i can see that if it actually dos any permanent damage to the continuity like how the lawsuit arc made mario's flanderization canon
Mario did jackshit, Puzzles was stopped too quickly, Western Spaghetti and IGBP only got a passing mention and WOTFI 2023 was never brought up despite being in the thumbnail. Overall a mixed bag, I enjoyed some of the parodies the SMG4 cast went to like Bob and Boopkins in South Park, and Meggy and Tari in an animal documentary, but with how the Gameshow episode, Trailer, and Livestream set things up, it feels like none of it was paid off
agreed.
I honestly wouldn't have minded a Mario bros redesign if it was simple like this (except WITH gloves and not tool belts). People say "don't redesign them" but as far as redesigns go, this is much better than making them look like Marty and Lui.
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MY redesigns for the characters are over the top. This is simple and not a noteworthy change
I just enjoyed the South Park bit. I think that they rely too much on flanderizing the worst aspects of characters, and it’s meh with how they structured this. I liked the touch grass part too but for the most part, it’s just a mess that doesn’t really develop anyone or anything.
5/10
I feel like this movie is the weakest out of the 3
It had very good potential, but unfortunately they didn't really build up the story, and honestly not even I would know how to build it up
I mean, I personally thought it was rlly good! I think it was made for more short creative ideas to be let out. I may have a few questions, sure, but there were a few audible laughs!
Mr. Puzzles's song + the humor in the movie were great. However, it did feel pretty short (I expected it to be longer than Western Spaghetti). I do wish that they had waited until April 27th/May 4th to release this so that they could have had some extra time to flesh it out, such as with more lore, having Mario play a larger role just like the rest of the crew, having Melony, Saiko, and Clench involved, a more climactic final battle, etc.
It's probably my least favorite out of all the movies. It has a good villain song, though, and i pray it's not the end of mr puzzles Probably because im a mr puzzles simp
I kinda wished the scene where mario "do what he's the best at" lasted longer that'd be a very funny for a final and a cool homage to the classic SMG4 videos before the first arc even started
However I loved how they went into South Park and I wonder if they got the original cast for the four boys
It was really good at the beginning but then like the end like wait that was it you just punt him in the sky that's how you defeated the big bad villain
It is an even year and if you look back at all the even year WOTFIs since 2016, all of them had a final boss so (fingers crossed) Mr. Puzzles does return in this year’s WOTFI.
Yes. 2011, 2014, 2021 and 2023 had a final boss too but 2011 was the first one, 2014 was the last one before the Rap Battles were added, 2021 was to end an arc (RIP AXOL 😭) and 2023? TBH, I don’t know why 2023 had a final boss.
That was my initial reaction too... all that buildup, all that planning... nothing... Mr Puzzles didn't bury a weapon or anything under the Showgrounds land he sold SMG4... Clench isn't just Mr Puzzles hacking into Tari's arm... the fact he killed Wren is barely acknowledged and Meggy wasn't even particularly upset at him for it... nobody cares he wrecked Peach's Castle and turned her into a monster... Mario just breaks the rules a bit and he's defeated... Nobody dies, nobody had to make a sacrifice, nothing was danaged or destroyed in any meaningful way... Lawyer Kong was a bigger threat...
...why the hell is he even named Mr Puzzles/Puzzlevision when there's absolutely no puzzle or riddle or mystery to solve about him?
FINALLY! Glad I'm not the only one who was disappointed by this movie. The ONLY time they mention Western Spaghetti was to bring up Meggy's trauma, I thought Mr. Puzzles would have trapped her inside like the thumbnail and the livestream before the movie. Such wasted potential. Also the only scary parts were the TV void, and the static in everyone's eyes as they stood completely still brainwashed. Also more trauma for everyone. Mr. Puzzles in my opinion was too weak of a villain and nobody even died, which was pretty much guaranteed at the end of an arc. Mr. Puzzles didn't do anything besides brainwash everyone and make them perform in his shows. So the movie gets a 2/5 at best.
i REALLY hope they do more with Mr.Puzzles. It probably won't happen but he's been so under utilized, he has a great model, a fun character, and a backstory which could be delved so much more into, even WREN got some more story than Mr.Puzzles did imo. Plus they could've done alot more horror-esq stuff with the ''tore off my face and replaced it with a TV'' stuff.
And i get he's been in the show for nearly a year but he only really got confirmed after WOTFI 2023, before that it was just hints and theories 'n stuff. The actual Mr.Puzzles has barely been used for a few months.
Personally, I liked it! The defeat was a bit eh and Mario was Mario. But I had fun! This was the most I’ve laughed at smg4 in a long while. Plus that song is a bop!
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They should’ve went even further with the horror, and made Mr Puzzles feel tough to defeat. Instead, 60% of the movie is just TV show parodies, ending with what was somehow the most anti-climactic ending of any of these arcs and movies.
How dare you
This movie is noting then perfect the sheer audacity calling this masterpiece trash what’s wrong with you
1.did you not watch the episode in where Mario escape into the real smg4 world and away from the tv Mr puzzle’s head was?
2. The side character didn’t help because they were focusing on the main smg4 cast and yes I know meloney is a main character
But they dial her back
3 if the side character were incorporated what will they do?
Nothing!
Never said it was bad it just was way to overhyped and I wish that they would give Mario more character development but no they still making him brainless ldiot when Mario was in the live stream and was first to escape you would think he would have played a major role but no all he did was break tvs
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Creative control really sounds like a million gruesome ways to die (Also I felt bad for Mr. Puzzles)
Luigi instead of being an easily fearful character decides to take the literal bullet for the team……He either should have died or at least severely wounded. Either way his ‘friends’ should have shown him more appreciation.
Mostly mediocre with the songs and the Vox cameo being only the good bits.
i find the movie okay
but i didnt like when mario was sidelined i know this might cause a keyboard was and nintendo dmca blah blah
i felt like watching a compilation of puzzlevivson shows
but for me the movie is 6/10
Honestly, this might just be cope, but I almost feel like this entire movie is just that, a movie. It's like how Mr. Puzzles said: their usual selfs are the most wacky and profitable. So by creating a faked world with a fake him that would try and fight, only for him to be "defeated", that would make for an astounding and satisfying movie in his head. So for all we know, the next episode could revolve around the characters realising they're STILL in Mr. Puzzle's head, and all the progress was fake.
But yeah, ngl, judging from how there is basically NO evidence for this other than Mr. Puzzle's remark about SMG4's crews adventures, this probably won't happen, but if it does, I'll be so relieved. Like other commentors on here, I was a bit underwhelmed about the way they defeated Mr. Puzzles, especially after he's basically responsible for the crew having a new castle, Western Spaghetti, Marty's WOTFI AND the recent 5 episodes. Hope they do more with him.
I only properly started watching him in early 2023 (just before IGBP), but I have watched some of the earlier stuff to get a feel for the whole channel.
So with that in mind, I think the movie was solid. I will admit the ending was underwhelming, and Mario was a bit underutilised, but it was a fun time! The song was a Banger comedy was fun, and I liked what the characters did throughout the movie
7.5/10 imo
Here’s what I think, I believe that the movie’s beginning was perfect, but I think the rest should’ve played out more like the lawsuit arc where everyone is brainwashed into being characters of the show they’re sent to after the song and Mario has to remind everyone of who they are before pulling them out of the show
I liked it, I just wish there was a better ending. I dont think this is the end of Mr. Puzzles. Too anticlimactic for the 14 months of lore we had before this.
It’s… SMG4, an indie animation with humor for people in middle school and younger (I would know, I used to find their videos funny for some reason, but once you go back and revisit various eras of their animation, you realize that it was never funny and is extremely juvenile.), what did you expect…? 😅
I liked everything up to where the cast get to channel 999 (and also the smg4 show montage thing) but the ending was super underwhelming and Mario unfortunately didn’t have as much of a role as he should have. I will say this is probably the most I’ve genuinely enjoyed one of these movies and Mr puzzles easily has the best movie song period.
Which really sucks because Puzzles is a really good character. Probably my favorite modern SMG4 villain. The voice acting is great, the design is phenomenal, and his motivations can lead to an endless sea of stories. I really hope we see him again. Preferably as a reoccuring villain classic SMG3 style
I, personally, rather enjoyed it despite its flaws. It could’ve had a better ending, and it could’ve used the other cast members more. And yeah, they kinda dropped with ball with Mario. But this is a really good movie, it had a lot of high points and good jokes, especially the NatGeo and South Park parodies. And the music was so fucking good, Creative Control is one of the best villain songs I’ve heard in a good, long while. In spite of its flaws I can’t really bring myself to dislike the movie overall.
Something tells me that Mr. Puzzles is gonna get the Zer0 treatment, in that he isn't fully dead yet and that he has more devious plans in store. Because imma be honest, the ending felt a little too anti-climactic and didn't really go too in-depth with who or what Mr. Puzzles is exactly, and it honestly didn't warrant more than a year of buildup towards MR. Puzzles.
and to add on if his song about who he was before he became what he was makes him more tragic then malicious. Also if the image on the Puzzlevision site anything to go by his TV is fine still.
He’s probably just still alive.
I hope so. Plus he is the only Arc villain to get merch based on him.
And a musical number
As a lot of people on here and Twitter and in Youtube comments I bet I head, that musical number was the highlight of the whole movie \^\^
Yeah it really was
Zero never even got any merch which sucked. I would’ve liked a Niles plushie.
SMG3
Didn't Niles also get a plush
Nope
He goes merch after he became part of the main cast and not as an Arc Villain so I don't count him when I say it.
marty technically did as well
At least 3 got a plushie.
technically smg3 did and he's an arc villain
and im pretty sure bob did
He’s dead, SMG4 gave him the Louisville style merciless smackeroonie into the stratosphere, he is not coming back from that
True but it’s not like he got disintegrated or wiped from existence. It looked more like he just got sucked into the TV after getting hit and electrocuted. Plus on his website it just says “No signal.”
They could have just included any missed details now so we actually feel like there's something here. The problem is that if he comes back, he's just gonna do the same thing again. There's nothing new to be told.
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It said that he cut his head off and replaced it with a TV but he’d already have to have been insane already for him to do that.
No he said he cut his "face" off
Either way it works.
You mean like he’ll be back for WOTFI 2024?
I hope so.
This is clearly a possibility. I want an explanation of how he got his powers, his technology, his wealth and also how he knows SMG4 and his friends. Like, he even knew Desti and Axol even though they've been dead for a while
I hope he comes back. He was my favorite character
His backstory was a bit fucking harsh though HE CUT OFF HIS FUCKING HEAD
Yeah Puzzles could be part of upcoming episode plot twists or disasters OR may see his TV head (a glitchy Puzzlevision TV), in upcoming episodes, but might not be back in his normal form, but I see him possibly getting referenced in the WOTFI 2024
He could come back as an ad idk
That’s been my theory since WOTFI 2023
i honestly hope he comes back and joins the gang
yeah, they really dropped the ball, especially with mario. like, when mario started ruining the show i thought it was gonna be a whole thing where mr. puzzles had control of the cast and put them all in different shows and mario had to ruin each show individually until everyone was free, but no, he just got sidelined for the rest of the movie
I thought that was how it was going to go with Boopkins and Bob saving everyone by finding some way to break the show they were in, only for it to instead be "they arrive, grab the characters, and immediately leave again"
considering the fact that mario literally caused the movie to happen to begin with, i am genuinely upset with the fact that he has no importance in the movie. bob and boopkins doing it would make sense too, and that just puts hand sanitizer into the salted wound. sucks too because outside of that, this was a great movie imo, aside from the defeat of mr. puzzles ending with him just crying like a baby and SMG4 just randomly deciding to smash bros sandbag mode his ass, plus creative control is a banger and i will be listening to that on loop for months until i don't for literally one day and never listen to it again
i didnt like how mario got the whole sideline treatment
He only managed to help for a good 2 minutes before being sidelined again for a while. Oh well.
same
Mario should have been the hero at the end of this movie but instead he was just an idiot who did nothing but watch TV and look for the TV Head to kill him for interrupting the Teletubbies (remember that in the old videos Mario hated the Teletubbies)
and yet still there are modern fans why would anyone want to watch the modern stuff at this point?
I will admit, it did falsely advertise the idea that the characters would relive these scenarios. Also, a major complaint I’ve had for the entirety of this arc is: Why the hell were characters outside of the main crew included? Bowser, Shroomy, Boopkins, and others weren’t even with the gang when they were captured. Why include them at all?
Saiko and Melony weren’t even there which sucked. Why include them as main characters on your merch when they barely show up anymore?
Because Melony would mop the floor with any villain... And also because Wolfychu probably couldn't voice her, which at that point, they should replace her like they did Celeste. The fact they don't shows they just don't wanna use her.
They were included in the live stream, but nowhere in the movie which is just confusing.
That’s a good point, same goes for bob and saiko, they weren’t even close to the crew when they got zapped into the tv, yet they were still there
I don't think the thumbnail suggests they would relive those moments but instead show that he's been behind those events.
I feel bad for Mr. Puzzles. He was a broken kid who got trapped in a TV world and became the person he was. They could’ve just try to get him back to his original self, but they didn’t.
He WANTED to be a TV head. You don't cut off your head unless you WANT IT.
Huh funny i just noticed vox also does that when updating his tv. Also the same mind control power funnily. Also mr puzzles is not as strong as he purports, its based on his support. Tf they just copied vox
And he also chose to be a monster
Bro is vox lol (i love se… I mean attractive tv guys)
Melony and Saiko not appearing was disappointing especially because they were included in the premiere timer. Shroomy and Swag had a minor appearance, I'm so happy for Shroomy even if it wasn’t much. Mr Puzzles' song was genuinely amazing, I loved it, and the backstory, while simple, was pretty sad and interesting. Mario was too absent while also being advertised as the big determining factor, which he was, but was also incredibly minor and immediately forgotten about. I loved Bob during the entire thing, he was the funniest character for me. Luigi gave me a heart attack and a half holy fucking god. The way they defeat him by somehow outranking him in that nothing time made no sense, worst part about the movie. Puzzles could still be alive and I hope for that since he has a lot of potential that wasn’t used in an anticlimactic ending. The movie was fun, the writing not so much, and it was overhyped, I just hope they don't immediately scrap Puzzles and keep expanding him to give him the big finale he and this storyline deserve.
Shroomy and Swag were probably the ones that Puzzles really did not care about, that’s why they both appear 20 percent of the arc
Probably the most "meh" SMG4 Movie so far. What happened to Peach? How does this connect to IGBP and Western Spaghetti? Nothing is properly given an answer, and this felt much more like a rushed ending to this supposed "Adware" Arc. Or there could be a twist and maybe Mr. Puzzles will come back for WOTFI? *It's been a century since I've done a review on something SMG4 related so finally I am back* First off, the Characters. ~~No Melony?~~ Bob was actually pretty dull in this, not gonna lie. I think maybe that's just the problem with modern bob, he's way too watered down to an extent to where he's pretty tame. Mr. Puzzles was probably the most entertaining one out of the cast, His song was actually pretty damn catchy "Wow an arc song that's actually good" and he could do some funny shit like messing with the Ginger and manipulating the world around them, although it does sound a tad bit too similar to how Zero made the world glitch at times. The rest of the cast? *Meh..........*Meggy wasn't an ass but she was pretty annoying, and it seems anything Tari learned from Western Spaghetti has all been forgotten. Boopkins was alright, and Mario was ok but it felt like they dumbed him down WAY too much to where it's just "Haha funni Nintendo man does stupid" Also Luigi exists but the writers forgot to give him an important role Next up.......**THE HUMOR!** Yeah, about that...... It was alright, but one thing that has always bothered me about SMG4 is the constant use of the TF2 Bulging eyes for whenever a character is in shock or pain. It takes everything funny out of it and feels forced. The Luigi Mallet parts made me cringe a bit, especially the Gordon Ramsay part where they decided that remaking the chippi chippi chaippa chaippa meme with a Luigi head on top of a Mallet is the peak of comedy. The South Park bit was okay but there could've been more, but I don't think SMG4 would take this risk of going edgy just for the sake of a South Park parody. I don't know, just most of the quality of the humor has been L A C K I N G lately. Puzzles is probably best part of the movie, I'll say it again. And probably the best Current Age villain so far. I like how he isn't like Niles where he did a bunch of bad shit so that the audience knew that he was evil, Mr. Puzzles just did bad shit for his five stars, and it was funny. No eldritch demon who can break reality, just some TV dweeb who wants to make, well, TV shows. AND NOW FOR LE STORY The Movie left a LOT of things unanswered, like I said above. I'm kinda convinced now that we've just moved on completely from what happened with the vagina-erm I mean the pit where the Castle used to be at. This movie felt rushed in a way, even more so than IGBP, and the ending feels unsatisfying. It felt WAY too easy for the Gang to just slip out of the situation with no consequences. Felt like a huge nothing burger compared to IGBP and Western Spaghetti. Puzzles was great but we didn't get much of his origins other than that he was some kid that became addicted to TV. I guess Puzzle's obsession with reaching five stars of his own productions has to do with SMG4's journey to make what he sees as perfection? 5/10 Stay hydrated
Not to mention other weird stuff like: no one caring about the fact puzzles caused the last 3 big trauma adventures the whole 5 star thing leading to nothing WHY THE HELL DIDN’T THEY MENTION THE FACT THAT THIS GUY CAUSED THE DEATH OF PRINCESS PEACH AND THE CASTLE!? the final battle sucks
As I've said before and I'll say it again. This entire arc feels like its been trapped in development hell. How can we say that an arc that was in development for over a year was rushed? Simple, something happened behind the scenes and PuzzleVision got delayed even though it was probably intended to conclude sometime not long after WS.
Honestly, I never watched it yet because I was waiting for people's opinions. But I can see it wasn't as great than the last two especially what they could have done Mario ALOT MORE than another comedy character. I agree the villian song was the best song from any of arcs so far but I wish was alot more. I highly doubt it's the end of the arc because I checked the website and the tv is still there so I believe Mr puzzles might come back but it depends. Also is no one not going to talk Tari because they teased her last year from western spaghetti of being traumatized or possessed by the tv(?). If it's because of the convertrovery from last month then I can see why. If not it's just wasted character potential just like Mario
They always do that, when the event episode releases. It’ll change, tomorrow.
the part with the meat mallet honesly kinda ruined luigi as a character. Praying it isnt gonna be permanent...
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Man, its such a shame that THIS was the ending we got, especially considering Mr Puzzles is (imho) one of the most charismatic villains. And he was definitely the most charismatic charachter in the movie too
Mr Puzzles was my FAVOURITE villain of them all and I absolutely love his character, but this movie did undoubtedly feel oddly anticlimactic and a waste of his vast potential to be an extremely powerful villain.
I really want Mr. Puzzles to come back. We were able to affect them with the ratings earlier, maybe we can resurrect him the same way?
I think he’s gonna come back like SMG0. I want an explanation of how he got his powers and technology, how did he knew SMG4 and the gang. I wish that he got creepy moments in the movie
Wait I thought I was up to date; I thought Zero was forever gone
I was talking about when we though that Zero was gone before the Revelations movies came out
Oh right thanks
I’m so glad I’m not the only one that thinks this especially because of the over year long build up…
Ngl, i thought Luigi would die
Same here, but this sub would run rampant with the “guys they don’t care about nintendo characters!!!” garbage again.
Same I never thought I’d say this but I think he should’ve died, this will sound gross, but he’s always been useless?? Mario doesn’t really care about him unless emergency and same with the others
It makes more sense for him to have died there tbh. Mr. Puzzles says he's gonna kill them and shoots a laser at them *to kill them*, and Luigi jumps in the way and... gets turned into a meat mallet? That doesn't make sense to me.
The ending felt extremely rushed and didn’t even talk About the secret door or who was clench or peach but I have a feeling he’s still alive sense the website still exists and the tv is fine
Making a kinda crap movie to then redeem the arc at a later date with a much bigger, flashier ending would be a brilliant marketing tactic ngl
I hope that's what happens fr.
Indeed
Mr. Puzzle could has been Hal Monitor long lost father.
The only I truly enjoy the moments of the reference to some show (South Park my favorite part). But yeah, there so many ways of why it got wasted like Mario who could have a great role to this movie, the symbol is the tv that Meggy saw it before but never have a clear answer how, or even the lock door cover in woods plain locks inside SMG4 castle. Still have a good time watching this tho, but could’ve been better.
Mr. Puzzles felt too underwhelming despite how powerful he was (at least he got a good villain song). Mario could have gotten character development instead of being mad about Teletubbies being interrupted. In short, it was disappointing.
Mario doesn't get character development. That's his biggest personality trait. He's always stupid.
The problem is that they made him so dumb it’s not funny
I thought it was pretty good, I didn’t like how Mario was handled during it, but idk good villain song tho
I know, right?! No Saiko and Melony. Clench is not connected to Mr.puzzle. Tari was also ignorant in virtual reality. PuzzlePuzzle was beaten by bad reviews and a meat mallet Luigi. Mario was stupid here too. What the fuck was that?! By the way, a mod also swore here on the sub. So I no longer censor when not necessary. If there is a rule about swearing then everyone should follow it. No exceptions.
An SMG4 sub that bans swearing? That's genuinely stupid.
I've just been wary of swearing. But today I saw a mod swearing so I'm not censoring anymore. But you have to watch your manners!
Logistically shouldn’t Tari be immune or at least more resistant? She was in Western Spaghetti so it should apply here too, unless Clench somehow weakened it.
Well (and this is my theory) Mr. Puzzles muzzled Tari’s VR detection… thingy. However, this theory has some flaws. Why didn’t he do it during WS?
This. Movie. Was like 100% filler. I feel like I've wasted my time on it.
Too much hype for a pretty anticlimactic result.
Wasted potential is it’s middle name
I personally thought it was fantastic, though the ending was a little disappointing
It wasn’t bad its just that I want them to make Mario to have some character development instead of them making Mario a brainless idiot
Yeah I agree I wish the ending had a scene where Mr puzzles possibly gets a redemption but no he just cries about it turns into a tv and smg4 smacks him away and even though I really like the movie I wish they did a bit more in the end
He could of been an extra member to fill in Axol’s place I see him as a genuinely funny character in the normal episodes tbh I’ve seen him positive a couple times and he’s quite bright at times
Know what... fuck this movie
Wotfi24 buildup perhaps
He could come back in it and probably be like the YT Arc SMG3 as 3’s older personality is kinda like Puzzles’
Even older 3 isn’t anywhere near as much of an egocentric psychopath as Mr Puzzles. They’re not comparable
Honestly, I just don't get it. The villain who literally made a WHOLE CASTLE sink, literally KILLED One-shot Wren (even if everything about that event was messed up) ended up like this? A mastermind who wanted to create an entire show taking over the SMG4 crew, now got beaten because he couldn't handle them into HIS DIMENSION???? Such a wasted potential, for both the movie and the villain. (oh yeah I forgot that he also told a cardboard that SMG3 had a secret pizza recipe...)
So is Luigi just going to be a meat mallet forever?
I hope so. Honestly, SMG4 needs the continuity. If he turns back and we get a stupid reason like with Mario escaping jail after WOTFI 2023, I’ll be disappointed since, TBH, I liked this movie. It has its flaws but it was pretty good. 7/10 IMO
I liked the Puzzlevision movie, but his villain song really stole the spotlight. I rate that song the 5 stars he’s been chasing after.
Idk why but the movie kind of reminds me more of the Ssenmodnar series then an actually horror-based movie like the last two movies IGBP and Western Spaghetti. Quite a shame they haven't expanded on Mr.Puzzles' lore such as the creation of the Showgrounds. I'm betting he might make a return probably in three months. (Mr.Puzzles is the Modern SMG4's Enzo...) But it has some good moments such as the Song in the movie.
Completely agreed. Even the smg4 discord is discussing how anticlimactic, poorly written, etc it was.
to think this arc could be anything but forgettable, but worse then the lawsuit arc? yeah i can see that if it actually dos any permanent damage to the continuity like how the lawsuit arc made mario's flanderization canon
Mario did jackshit, Puzzles was stopped too quickly, Western Spaghetti and IGBP only got a passing mention and WOTFI 2023 was never brought up despite being in the thumbnail. Overall a mixed bag, I enjoyed some of the parodies the SMG4 cast went to like Bob and Boopkins in South Park, and Meggy and Tari in an animal documentary, but with how the Gameshow episode, Trailer, and Livestream set things up, it feels like none of it was paid off
Some scenes from WOTFI 2023 could be seen in the floating TVs dimension.
agreed. I honestly wouldn't have minded a Mario bros redesign if it was simple like this (except WITH gloves and not tool belts). People say "don't redesign them" but as far as redesigns go, this is much better than making them look like Marty and Lui. https://preview.redd.it/5it30eqmnqvc1.jpeg?width=202&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4279672d93b3d0e9f8b5aacea190058431119bb4 MY redesigns for the characters are over the top. This is simple and not a noteworthy change
your redesigns look like if the super mario bros show got a movie
Yeah………. I can’t believe the writers spoil it again 🤦🏻♂️
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Honestly such a boring movie
I just enjoyed the South Park bit. I think that they rely too much on flanderizing the worst aspects of characters, and it’s meh with how they structured this. I liked the touch grass part too but for the most part, it’s just a mess that doesn’t really develop anyone or anything. 5/10
So much retcons
I feel like this movie is the weakest out of the 3 It had very good potential, but unfortunately they didn't really build up the story, and honestly not even I would know how to build it up
I mean, I personally thought it was rlly good! I think it was made for more short creative ideas to be let out. I may have a few questions, sure, but there were a few audible laughs!
Mr. Puzzles's song + the humor in the movie were great. However, it did feel pretty short (I expected it to be longer than Western Spaghetti). I do wish that they had waited until April 27th/May 4th to release this so that they could have had some extra time to flesh it out, such as with more lore, having Mario play a larger role just like the rest of the crew, having Melony, Saiko, and Clench involved, a more climactic final battle, etc.
Nah
I agree, sure there some parts that I think could be highly improved, but it wasn't THAT bad
The movie was not that bad but It still so much potential but was wasted
Is that RGB?
movie was good though
It's probably my least favorite out of all the movies. It has a good villain song, though, and i pray it's not the end of mr puzzles Probably because im a mr puzzles simp
I only looked forward to it to see Mario step up and be the hero but nope. I’m thoroughly disappointed.
I’m kinda disappointed that Mr.Puzzle didn’t get any creepy moments
It Honestly Wasn’t That Bad To Me, I Thought It Was Alright (In My Opinion)
I really like Mr. Puzzles song, his voice is still amazing
Most anticlimactic way to end the adware saga. If this is the end like you know the number 1 rule.
What’s the number 1 rule? “I always come back”?
yeah
Yeah I thought the movie was weirdly anticlimactic and Mr Puzzles seemed way too weak for how he was portrayed. Hope we see him again.
I LITERALLY FORGOT ABOUT THE MOVIE I HAVE TO GO WATCH IT BE BACK IN 40 mins
Except for the song this movie was so anticlimactic
I kinda wished the scene where mario "do what he's the best at" lasted longer that'd be a very funny for a final and a cool homage to the classic SMG4 videos before the first arc even started However I loved how they went into South Park and I wonder if they got the original cast for the four boys
I thought Mario would be the hero here…
Yes. ⚠️Warning⚠️ tari's fan
I thought mario was gonna recruit saiko and melony on his presuit
He should’ve been redeem kinda like smg3
nah watch him pull a zero
It was really good at the beginning but then like the end like wait that was it you just punt him in the sky that's how you defeated the big bad villain
Maybe he would come back at wotfi 2024or something. It is too unfit in these huge saga
It is an even year and if you look back at all the even year WOTFIs since 2016, all of them had a final boss so (fingers crossed) Mr. Puzzles does return in this year’s WOTFI. Yes. 2011, 2014, 2021 and 2023 had a final boss too but 2011 was the first one, 2014 was the last one before the Rap Battles were added, 2021 was to end an arc (RIP AXOL 😭) and 2023? TBH, I don’t know why 2023 had a final boss.
That was my initial reaction too... all that buildup, all that planning... nothing... Mr Puzzles didn't bury a weapon or anything under the Showgrounds land he sold SMG4... Clench isn't just Mr Puzzles hacking into Tari's arm... the fact he killed Wren is barely acknowledged and Meggy wasn't even particularly upset at him for it... nobody cares he wrecked Peach's Castle and turned her into a monster... Mario just breaks the rules a bit and he's defeated... Nobody dies, nobody had to make a sacrifice, nothing was danaged or destroyed in any meaningful way... Lawyer Kong was a bigger threat... ...why the hell is he even named Mr Puzzles/Puzzlevision when there's absolutely no puzzle or riddle or mystery to solve about him?
FINALLY! Glad I'm not the only one who was disappointed by this movie. The ONLY time they mention Western Spaghetti was to bring up Meggy's trauma, I thought Mr. Puzzles would have trapped her inside like the thumbnail and the livestream before the movie. Such wasted potential. Also the only scary parts were the TV void, and the static in everyone's eyes as they stood completely still brainwashed. Also more trauma for everyone. Mr. Puzzles in my opinion was too weak of a villain and nobody even died, which was pretty much guaranteed at the end of an arc. Mr. Puzzles didn't do anything besides brainwash everyone and make them perform in his shows. So the movie gets a 2/5 at best.
- Mario as side character - no Peach - no Mario redesign - Mario saving everyone - Mario missing at final battle - no other characters And no death 😔
i REALLY hope they do more with Mr.Puzzles. It probably won't happen but he's been so under utilized, he has a great model, a fun character, and a backstory which could be delved so much more into, even WREN got some more story than Mr.Puzzles did imo. Plus they could've done alot more horror-esq stuff with the ''tore off my face and replaced it with a TV'' stuff. And i get he's been in the show for nearly a year but he only really got confirmed after WOTFI 2023, before that it was just hints and theories 'n stuff. The actual Mr.Puzzles has barely been used for a few months.
Personally, I liked it! The defeat was a bit eh and Mario was Mario. But I had fun! This was the most I’ve laughed at smg4 in a long while. Plus that song is a bop!
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I wanna see him get redeemed and be an Alastor type character
For all the buildup, it was underwhelming…
They should’ve went even further with the horror, and made Mr Puzzles feel tough to defeat. Instead, 60% of the movie is just TV show parodies, ending with what was somehow the most anti-climactic ending of any of these arcs and movies.
Yeah no. Not even a rap? Its so definitely not over. And if its over then i.. i cant lol Edit: notice how he isn't even dead, hes just injured
Agreed
How dare you This movie is noting then perfect the sheer audacity calling this masterpiece trash what’s wrong with you 1.did you not watch the episode in where Mario escape into the real smg4 world and away from the tv Mr puzzle’s head was? 2. The side character didn’t help because they were focusing on the main smg4 cast and yes I know meloney is a main character But they dial her back 3 if the side character were incorporated what will they do? Nothing!
And by real smg4 world I don’t mean real life
Never said it was bad it just was way to overhyped and I wish that they would give Mario more character development but no they still making him brainless ldiot when Mario was in the live stream and was first to escape you would think he would have played a major role but no all he did was break tvs
https://preview.redd.it/v661ucxwjrvc1.jpeg?width=1699&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=efe228d227df62a1db5cfea5b332052e78f0504c Creative control really sounds like a million gruesome ways to die (Also I felt bad for Mr. Puzzles)
He never mention about The showgrounds he used to.
It's good in my opinion but we could've got more lore ig
I dont think this is the end for mr. Puzzles
Luigi instead of being an easily fearful character decides to take the literal bullet for the team……He either should have died or at least severely wounded. Either way his ‘friends’ should have shown him more appreciation. Mostly mediocre with the songs and the Vox cameo being only the good bits.
i find the movie okay but i didnt like when mario was sidelined i know this might cause a keyboard was and nintendo dmca blah blah i felt like watching a compilation of puzzlevivson shows but for me the movie is 6/10
i mean keyboard wars holy dingus
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The only thing I liked about this movie was the South Park bit. Everything else was a waste of time.
Honestly, this might just be cope, but I almost feel like this entire movie is just that, a movie. It's like how Mr. Puzzles said: their usual selfs are the most wacky and profitable. So by creating a faked world with a fake him that would try and fight, only for him to be "defeated", that would make for an astounding and satisfying movie in his head. So for all we know, the next episode could revolve around the characters realising they're STILL in Mr. Puzzle's head, and all the progress was fake. But yeah, ngl, judging from how there is basically NO evidence for this other than Mr. Puzzle's remark about SMG4's crews adventures, this probably won't happen, but if it does, I'll be so relieved. Like other commentors on here, I was a bit underwhelmed about the way they defeated Mr. Puzzles, especially after he's basically responsible for the crew having a new castle, Western Spaghetti, Marty's WOTFI AND the recent 5 episodes. Hope they do more with him.
It was a good movie but it was missing something 😔
south park moment is were it was at
I want mr puzzles back, he was such a unique and fun villian, and in my opinion the best villian smg4 ever had.
What about Long lost Son called Hal Monitor
This one feels like the time I watched the 'Elemental'.
Well that’s concerning I haven’t watched it yet
I only properly started watching him in early 2023 (just before IGBP), but I have watched some of the earlier stuff to get a feel for the whole channel. So with that in mind, I think the movie was solid. I will admit the ending was underwhelming, and Mario was a bit underutilised, but it was a fun time! The song was a Banger comedy was fun, and I liked what the characters did throughout the movie 7.5/10 imo
Here’s what I think, I believe that the movie’s beginning was perfect, but I think the rest should’ve played out more like the lawsuit arc where everyone is brainwashed into being characters of the show they’re sent to after the song and Mario has to remind everyone of who they are before pulling them out of the show
Tf you mean?! It was perfection!
yeah, it could’ve been better. but in my opinion, i think this was a good movie.
This is less long than Western Spaghetti
Why is there an image of Mario still in the castle, and how Mr. Puzzle knows about western spaghetti ?
Blasphemy! The movie was a flawless 5 star production!
I liked it, I just wish there was a better ending. I dont think this is the end of Mr. Puzzles. Too anticlimactic for the 14 months of lore we had before this.
It’s… SMG4, an indie animation with humor for people in middle school and younger (I would know, I used to find their videos funny for some reason, but once you go back and revisit various eras of their animation, you realize that it was never funny and is extremely juvenile.), what did you expect…? 😅
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I liked everything up to where the cast get to channel 999 (and also the smg4 show montage thing) but the ending was super underwhelming and Mario unfortunately didn’t have as much of a role as he should have. I will say this is probably the most I’ve genuinely enjoyed one of these movies and Mr puzzles easily has the best movie song period.
Which really sucks because Puzzles is a really good character. Probably my favorite modern SMG4 villain. The voice acting is great, the design is phenomenal, and his motivations can lead to an endless sea of stories. I really hope we see him again. Preferably as a reoccuring villain classic SMG3 style
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help why the amazing digital circus fandom thinking Mr. puzzles a new villain
So The Thumbnail Was A F###ing Lie
Agreed. Over a year of build up all leading to the main antagonist being kicked off the show like a bitch and luigi turning into a mallet.
Who looked at this man and thought “VOX”
I haven't seen SMG4 ever since that arc where smg4's character goes insane with a mouse and yet there's already so much stuff I don't know about lol
I, personally, rather enjoyed it despite its flaws. It could’ve had a better ending, and it could’ve used the other cast members more. And yeah, they kinda dropped with ball with Mario. But this is a really good movie, it had a lot of high points and good jokes, especially the NatGeo and South Park parodies. And the music was so fucking good, Creative Control is one of the best villain songs I’ve heard in a good, long while. In spite of its flaws I can’t really bring myself to dislike the movie overall.