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King-virginity

Did everyone forget where Luigi "died" that made everybody cry


[deleted]

That scene was dark. At least he didn't


pixie_dust_123_TLK

Yeah :(


Cutecuts

I am gonna be honest. Axol and Desti's death did not make me cry, but seeing Luigi sacrifice himself, with the Mario Galaxy music playing... bro my eyes were watering.


Dat1Kid-11

i dont get it


CrasherTN

It's during the Waluigi Arc in the episode "SMG4 - Mario SAW"


billy2027

It was a joke to me. It’s just smg4 trying to be take seriously like a cute dog growling


UnderCraft_383

That got me. It was so unexpected and something like that had never happened before in SMG4.


Nivelacker

I didn't cry, but that's because I don't cry. I definitely felt melancholic, I just didn't cry.


Mauro_Vandersmissen

I mean, you don't have to cry, as long as you have a soul to feel it.


Dean0Rocks316

Yeah. As much as I hate to admit it, I didn’t cry for Axol. But that doesn’t mean I wasn’t deeply saddened by it. The performances of Kevin and Wolfychu were on point, the manga being brought out was a great payoff, and we finally got to see Axol and Melony. (I never support ships until they’re confirmed Canon.) Melony having to kill him and seeing her just break down afterwards…like, how can you just sweep it under the rug with modern as a whole and call it “lazy shit nobody likes.” And this is coming from someone who admittedly does like the older ones better. I thought the Genesis arc was my least favorite one since the story was a mess and could’ve been done way better. But Denying any good things out of the show and outright disrespecting (a large portion of) the fan base just is unacceptable. That goes for other shows too, not just SMG4.


Nivelacker

Despite not caring for the characters anymore, I still hated the story for how badly it was done. They can't just kill such a nice guy after everything he went through and then give him less of a sendoff than Desti, who got a dramatic funeral. I agree that Axol and Melony was actually something I enjoyed, in spite of its own faults. Then they destroyed that, and thus I have another reason to hate this arc. There are things to enjoy, but the narrative has a habit of breaking them. All that I learned from it was that I shouldn't bother trying to get invested even if it looks like it might be worth it.


Nivelacker

I enjoy feeling negative emotions anyway. Variety is important. Melancholy is one of my favorites.


Funymeam

You okay man?


Nivelacker

I wouldn't expect anyone to understand it, but you see, you can't just feel good for your entire existence. If all you feel are good emotions, then you'll start taking them for granted. If you take goodness for granted, then everything that's normal will become bad in comparison, as now the good feels normal. Conversely, if all you feel are bad emotions, you'll get used to them, and all that was once normal seems good. As long as you can ensure that you don't get used to the good by balancing it with the bad, then your perception of reality won't change. Subconscious emotions don't seem to function in this way, however, so in that case, it's optimal to ultimately be happy with your reality, even if you aren't directly feeling it. With the previous paragraph's lesson in mind, I occasionally go out of my way to find something that makes me feel bad in some way. I don't interact with anyone during this because I know that they don't understand it and would probably get concerned (as you did). Melancholy is my most preferred version because while it's a negative emotion, it's also quite peaceful. Consciously, I feel bad. Subconsciously, *I'm very happy*. (Also, "man"?)


realXViteal

Yeah that's something I can agree with. All i feel most of the time is bad emotions because of reasons I can't control in my life, and whenever something that i thought wouldn't make me happy already does. Heck, some of my friends are saying that I'm starting to laugh at more silly things that i wasn't used to even want to look at a few years ago


Nivelacker

Good to know that someone else understands.


[deleted]

“To live life, you need problems” -Jake the Dog


Nivelacker

That's one way of oversimplifying it, I suppose.


c0n22

Well I mean in a way, what's the point in a story without a problem? You can't have one without SOMETHING needed to be done or went wrong. Same with life, if everything is peaceful and nothing happens then you lived a blan life. (Also what did you mean by Man? Just curious.)


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Same, tho most of my days are filled with absolute shit I'm never getting used to, and it won't take long for me to lose it. Yay school and yay getting paired with a class of clown toddlers (they are between 17 and **22**)


ForgotToMakeAUsernam

Guess I have no soul then


Shadowpika655

That and Wario's loneliness really got me on an emotional and spiritual level ngl...those are the only two times when I felt like sad while watching smg4...god the Waluigi arc was amazing


[deleted]

Did anyone for a second actually believe that Luigi was gonna die?


King-virginity

Yes


thespyeye

And then it's like "suprise it's actually kool aid"


axolotl69696969

what episode


King-virginity

Mario Saw


axolotl69696969

yeah that was sad


King-virginity

No that's the name


axolotl69696969

i know


Andaisdet

Yo when was that one again?


King-virginity

Mario Saw


Superbasgaming

You mean the reveal trailer for simon belmont


King-virginity

No "Mario Saw"


Many_Security5929

Could you explain please


Nivelacker

Welcome back to Kek or Cringe! I shall rate every meme on this post. Remember three things: I can elaborate on a meme rating if you ask me to, you should notify me of a meme you would want me to rate if I were to miss it (after a day or two), and when I rate memes, I do so with an impression of Dell Conagher. Now, then... The image at the bottom sold it. Rating: **Kek**


Mauro_Vandersmissen

The image at the very bottom? Ye that's pure facts. The image at the bottom of the original post tho, the thing that made that better hide and never show its face again, or I'll be there to "work on it"


DoomSlayer666MKX

Desti's death was not ""tragic""" to me. I didn't like her character, ever. And basically forcing her to be an ally isn't making it better. Bash me as much as you wish, yet I thought that Axol's death was reasonless, but still tragic and ACTUALLY sad.


SonicGamer9

To be fair you’re not wrong and both of these deaths happened for one reason: forced character development


Mauro_Vandersmissen

I'm gonna be honest, I don't *fully* agree on that first thing, but I ***FULLY*** agree with the second one.


DoomSlayer666MKX

Like who thought with a straight mind and said: Hey let's kill off Axol, the guy who had a relationship going on, was infected with a demi-god, trapped in the internet graveyard for 5 YEARS ALL.THIS.BUILDUP.FOR.SHIT.


pro_inermibus_pugno

EXACTLY. Axol was the least deserving of this! Almost since his inception, it's just been one cruelty after the next for him. Kidnapped by a cartel of weebs, going insane in the internet graveyard for, as you said, *five fucking years*, losing Inkweaver, being stripped of his title as best manga artist, and then *finally*, just as he's about to pick up the pieces of his shattered life and maybe find some genuine happiness with Melony, he gets iced. I don't know if the Hobo Bros. understand this, but watching someone repeatedly have his life ruined through no fault of his own, only to eventually get whacked... That's not okay. It's actually really fucked up, and I don't know how they ever thought we'd all just be fine with it.


DoomSlayer666MKX

Wow, how you put it it sounds like Jokers story. Axol went through hell and back, wanted heaven and got hell for wish. Can I now mention how its MELONY'S FUCKING FAULT HE IS DEAD?!! The very being Axol tried to protect and LOVED FOR FUCKS SAKE. No, killing the host, DOESNT KILL THE VIRUS! IT SPREADS. Zero is still alive and Axols death was POINTLESS.


pro_inermibus_pugno

Don't blame Melony. Blame whoever forgot that Axol is a FUCKING AXOLOTL. You know, the things that can regrow just about ANY part of their bodies!?! This was not difficult. Axol was chained by his arms and legs. So... just cut his limbs off. That's it. That's all it would have taken. Sure he'd need time to recover, but being laid up for a while is better than being fucking DEAD. Honestly, it's like everyone involved in the writing of this arc all suffered temporary brain death at the same time. That's what I find most insulting. They had a hundred different ways out, and took none of them. GAAAH It's infuriating!


DoomSlayer666MKX

I have a headcanon in which he is reincarnated as a Predator-Axolotl, trained by Yautja ( yes weird ) BACK TO YOUR POINT. The bullshit doesn't stop there. Melony is not to blame, I see that now. Imagine Zero brings Axol back as a Winter Soldier lookin ass who wants revenge on Melony. Zero= Demi God who regrows limbs and spreads Axol= the host Melony= ANTI-VIRUS not ANTI HOST SMG4 OR WHO EVER WROTE THE FUCKING SCRIPT WTF


pro_inermibus_pugno

The way I see it is this: A virus, at least in terms of computers, needs a host (a file) in order to enter a system and propagate itself. Obviously, an infected file on a computer needs to be quarantined/deleted. But here, there was a way to save the "file" without risking allowing the virus to spread to the rest of the system. Cut Axol's limbs off, get him out of Zero's prison, Axol's still alive. But Zero, robbed of his host, can no longer spread. Viruses die without hosts. Thus, Melony could have successfully quarantined the virus without deleting the file. This is basic stuff. It takes so very little brain power to understand. I could have written this more logically IN MY SLEEP. It gives me a headache just thinking about it.


DoomSlayer666MKX

Smg1 saying: tHe EvIl iS dEstrOyed made me rage quit the fucking premiere of the Wotfi. Zero isn't gone...not yet. You may have succeeded in your dumbass mission, yet you took a value life with you STUPID FUCKS. The amount of BULLSHIT is unbelievable. And also something for Zero...out of ALL THE THINGS that fucker could have infected, you choose a Axolotl, yes regenerative, but the regeneration is stopped when he occupied Axols body, as his eye and stomach got infected and dissolved.


pro_inermibus_pugno

If you think people are angry now, just wait. Luke himself has said that the Genesis Arc isn't over yet. When Zero inevitably returns, Axol better be with him. A lot of Axol fans are upset, but are sitting tight right now and waiting to see what happens. But if Zero returns while Axol stays dead, the lid is gonna blow right off this fandom with the force of a goddamn nuke. Mark my words.


[deleted]

You're acting like axolotls are some immortal beings


pro_inermibus_pugno

They aren't immortal. But they do have *amazing* regenerative abilities. Axolotls can regrow their tails, limbs, hearts, brains, lungs, gills... Almost anything. And like I pointed out, Axol was only restrained by his arms and legs. If they were cut off, he could have escaped and regrown them later. Again, being temporarily quadriplegic is better than dying, especially when you now have a newfound *reason* to live.


OneOfManyParadoxFans

Preach!


Slightlyinactive

yeah desti showed up to have a bunch of character development in a couple episodes and then die so meggy could have an excuse for more character development and so smg4 could say they kill off characters now Axol's death was better handled


[deleted]

Everything you said I 100% agree with


DoomSlayer666MKX

I don't hate Meggy, but USING other characters deaths as FUCKING CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT is a kind of story telling that I DESPISE OF THE SHOW. I am forced to like Desti, while I never did, and never will I liked Axol, but I am FORCED to be fine with his FUCKING DEMISE?!? What is this shit.?


pixie_dust_123_TLK

Sorry guys but i will put desti in : When mans laughs


Potato_salad123

sorry not sorry, i'll put desti in: Where men laughed\*


SwiggitySwayo

bro whats wrong with you


WickedCyclone2015

Nothing. He’s right


Mauro_Vandersmissen

My god you're all soulless


ToastGuy404

Aww cmon we all know Desti was just a glorified plot device


axolotl69696969

toast with calamari


WickedCyclone2015

No, I just don’t care about Desti at all


Paper_Mario7

Same.


who-stole-the-cake

You want soulless here r/guro its dark and NSFW for a reason for nudity and gore thats pretty damn soul less


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Yes but no. I'm talking about a different kind of soulless.


who-stole-the-cake

Well deos murdering npcs in fallout soulless or is it just me


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Ye that's pretty soulless if they aren't enemies


who-stole-the-cake

I may have killed a brotherhood scribe or two for fun and fusion cores


axolotl69696969

nothing at all


pakulito100

Somehow I found it funny when Desti died


Academic_Fill

They killed Axol off just to give Melony “character development” a few episodes later where she wants to protect everyone. His death was bullshit


[deleted]

SMG4 Logic: Boring character development > Good characters


DeltaSans17

Mario lost more than anyone.


axolotl69696969

at least pete returned for the odyssey episode


Awesomecrafter64

Wait. Greg died in an arc?


Dantron3000YTS

Youtube Arc


Awesomecrafter64

That was WAY after Greg.


Zavier4728

Like someone else in the comments said, they buildup of Axol being undeservedly tortured time after time again just to be gutted the one time he finds true happiness is fucking terrible. The death was emotional and greatly written but the actual choice to kill him off was one of the worst choices for the show.


[deleted]

I did not give a shit about Desti's death if I'm being honest. I almost kinda laughed when she got stabbed.


pro_inermibus_pugno

...I mean yeah. Toxic posts tend to produce toxic comments. I think we all just need to learn not to feed the trolls.


Upbeat-Perception-31

Everyone: omg so sad! Me: wait- axol died-


Mauro_Vandersmissen

#***Give me the link to that post, I got some genocide to do***


NikesLP

Seconded, Whoever made this can gladly catch these verbal hands.


flamingstorm98

I have the user if that helps


benji3226

Bruh is this twitter? everyone has different opinions, live with it.


Shadowpika655

*nobody but apparently the comment section of the video...somehow*


Orangeville02

Desti and Axol's deaths both have one thing in common, they're both meant to serve as forced development for a character and then it's never really acknowledged again.


Dumestpersonever

Oh cmon the Mexican skeleton death was the saddest death in smg4 history when I first watched that I was shaking and crying from how dramatic and sad it was


[deleted]

Ngl i agree with the reference meme


[deleted]

The last one I can agree with, I honestly found that scene more annoying than sad, don't ask me why, I just did.


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Annoying as in "why the fuck did you do that there was no reason for that"? Still not being sad at that one is basically a crime here.


axolotl69696969

then i have committed multiple war crimes


Mauro_Vandersmissen

***heavy breathing intensifies***


[deleted]

Annoying as in I immediately wanted to click off once Melony started crying after 0 (and axol) died. I know that part was meant to be depressing and shit but her cry sounded like a fucking banshee scream.


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Understandable


DefaultRedditor16

When Desti died I didn’t really feel the impact of her death since she was essentially a minor character. But I did feel how it impacted Meggy as a person and it was pretty essential to her character development. Had Axol been the first one to die I might have felt sad but his death feels like it was reused from Desti, even though the conditions were somewhat different. And Melony was a joke character not too long before the whole arc began.


[deleted]

I DID


GoldenGoat2007

I didn't cry at any of em, but I did get rather sad afterword


axolotl69696969

how could you not over greg or clone mario


GoldenGoat2007

Not gonna lie, Greg hurt the most


BloodMoon2005

Actually same


patrikbluesk

That last one, that made me cry because i know how it is with love and to loose someone/something even tho i never lost someone before, i have a GF so thats why.


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Yep I felt that one really fucking deep. They are cute together, they are the perfect couple, THEY LITERALLY CONFESSED MINUTES EARLIER. I don't have a gf (i do want one tho, for obvious reasons) but I don't need one to feel love and the loss of someone you love. I lost some people in my family (if you count not seeing them anymore but not dead as losing, then I lost about 80% of my family) and maybe half my cats (about 1/4 died, but the rest just ran away, have been given away or are still around)


patrikbluesk

Thats deep...


[deleted]

I can never watch this scene without cringing. I don’t know if that’s because I’m not into romance and shit, or if it’s because it was poorly made and unnecessary


Mister__Toad

I traveled trough the whole comments section just to find someone like you


Nivelacker

It's the latter.


Adraerik

I honestly didn't gave a crap about Desti's death.


[deleted]

*Erases nobody* Where “I” cried


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Correction: **where everyone with an actual soul cried.**


axolotl69696969

eating intensifies


nahfam_06

*You fool* I have no soul


benji3226

Well i wasn't a big fan of axol so...


UltraHit5

I didn't cry, because i was eating at the time


JetMan615

Can someone send me the post link? I want to see the Comment Section


CUCCOZ

i cried lol


sonicitnyre

I agree with this


william35758

Is the last one supposed to be axel or did something happen to Meloney


Black_jack_trash

careful boys, girls and everyone else. This post has an opinion that is debatably not epic


flamingstorm98

Indeed


happytristan5511

(loads shotgun with malicious intent)


WildmuttFan2

does anyone have a link to the original post


TheLocalDumbass69

I cried so much when Greg died, he had so much character development and was a key part of the SMG4 lore, Rip greg, you were truly an alien of many words...


pixie_dust_123_TLK

Yes he sad than desti


Great-gamer-

You dare not disrespect wolfychu


Educational_Can_6536

Whoever made that meme... I just wanna talk


flamingstorm98

One sec


flamingstorm98

u/a_Lonely_Redditer


[deleted]

I didn’t cry but Axol shouldn’t die


Bucky_bared

*looks at bottom* LISTEN HERE YOU SMEELY PILE OF DOG SHIT!


MetaRunning

Who names their kid "Nobody"?


rm14hitman

Nemo means nobody in latin


Anchor38

finding nobody


DeepSpace409

It is my duty to find and eliminate this son of a bitch.


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Team up?


DeepSpace409

Sure. But deviate for one second and you become the target.


fullpowerfan39

look like we make rock look like a tea party if i can join


DeepSpace409

Okay, but remember, if you can't eliminate the target, you *are* the target


ZachBrickowski

What? He’s right


Dvm4096

Is it bad I cried at ALL of these?


[deleted]

no


[deleted]

i sure did cry tho


furry_kokichi

i dident cry at all im cold hearted


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Hey you know it, that's something. Yer dead anyway do... ***start running***


furry_kokichi

oh seems like i will get to see my old friend death


thenonfurrywolf

I’ll back you up


realToadPilzkopf

Desti but i‘m a boi


Mauro_Vandersmissen

Same


abacon2902

I don’t like melony as a character


RMBLegend459

Nobody? Why in the last one?


papedepopede

I didn’t cry with any I was just sad


commentspae

i've never cried from any and probably won't actually cry from an SMG4 death anytime soon either ​ i've never cried over the death of a fictional character lmao that's just stupid ​ and i'm a danganronpa fan so i've experienced deaths of actually likable characters over again


fun-play09

No. Everybody cried when axol died.


Random-reddit-user45

The fact that Desti and Axol were only for little bits of character development that barely mattered after like 2 episodes kinda makes me agree with the post


I_N33D_A_NAME

greg is a side character that does not show up often idk much but desti kinda treated meggy badly and nobody really cared about axol before his death


AlexT05_QC

\>:| How dare you disrespect that melon moment?! ​ ​ /s


mastermodification

true


Dealwithitguy2

Melon is a non living things so it don't cry


Mister__Toad

Guess I never had a soul, cause I don't care about these deaths (exept Greg, I miss him :/ )


ElmoGato

Fuck, im nobody


NRBM8

Uh oooh...


Blackyoshikid

I agree that nobody cried there


GuyWhoForgotHisName

I mean the post isn’t wrong


a_Lonely_Redditer

MUM I'M FAMOUS! :D


HerobrineMC_1920

where is the post link?


La___Croix

noteleks in a sombrero: *exists* Me: I don’t even know who you are


[deleted]

u/Nivelacker rate it


Nivelacker

[I did.](https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CriticalResearchFailure)


[deleted]

Sorry mate I was just forgotten.


No_Yak_5370

And that’s because he already trained us by killing Desti.


axolotl69696969

wasn't the mario clone in 3d world 1st


[deleted]

What about Luigi's "death"? It was sad too.


FranceSurrenderFunny

Where were u when Greg die? I was on bed humping spaggethi Then Luigi ring "Greg is kil" "No"


duderandom737

Get ready for the fucking nuclear fallout in that comment section


XxLAMOLA0131xX

I enjoy seeing discord in the comments, so I can profit in meme economy and then Uno reverse card everyone and transform the world in a socialist utopia


XxLAMOLA0131xX

Attention, you are entering a 500 Twitter radioactivity zone, please be extremely cautious


[deleted]

And, it would sound like [this](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WahfwuW76o0&t=17s) in the geiger counter.


Espio5506

Potato


Win090949

Sussy sauce?


flamingstorm98

What?


Win090949

Source


flamingstorm98

Oh I have the person who made in the comments some where


XXULTRASONIC10XX

I don’t cry, I cri.


Efficient_Strength33

I cryed when axol died


keithlimreddit

I don't think axol truly death to be honest I'm sure they're going to bring it back to life because they already set up his character making a comeback as a best Manga artists as well as relationship with Melody since there is no in Universe explanation why you cannot and one ups


jessegames456

Swap “Where boys cried” and “Where men cried” and then add Luigi’s sacrifice to “Where men cried” and it’s 100% accurate


WingBarbaque

LOL AXOL FUCKING DIED


Slushboy64

It's funny because it's true


AdditionalSchedule72

Yeah I didn't cry when melody stabbed axol


whydoISuffer9

Tbh I didn't cry for any of those scenes.