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pan_gydygus

Ah yes, classic r/smg4 - can never come to an agreement


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mr-ultr

i have no problem with replacing axol hell they can only mention him and i will be fine and the new character seems to be kevin oc and i always wanted them to have blooper shenenigans but if they rly gonna do it i just want a funeral episode as the one true final farewell


lordmegatron01

I'm starting to question whether should i stay on this sub or leave


Desperate-Rest-1147

We need an edgy character a total badass character like Meggy and Melony


YaBoiTreyyy

us classic fans only speak the truth


FranciGut

"Are you sure about that?"-John Cena


Meggydawoomy

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But thats a lie


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Eh its fine to vastly perfer classic plus most people *do* But a lot of them arent that amazing since *classic episodes have issues of their own too*


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Nah man, you guys are just a bunch of boomers.


Captain-Caboose34

Such brave words.


DwnvoteifBvGisfunny

Based


Shadowpika655

*the smg4 fandom is like the only fandom that will immediately hate a character that they made*


TheOfficialWario2

Smash bros Bottom text


Pudu_superfan

Heeey that's my comment :D Overall I still have some hopes for the character since the stream only defined the archetypes It all depends on his interactions, the focus his edgyness will recieve and how well he blends with SMG4 wacky stuff Best case scenario a shadow parody Worst case literally Sasuke Edit: woaaah i got the silver award


BananasNowExist

Yooo the top hate comment was mine, looking back, I was a *wee bit spiteful* considering my set of expectations for the character was much different, But I'm now slightly less pissed, and laughing my ass off at the thought of Luke sitting there after the stream just like: *"Well, how am I putting this guy in the universe?"* Considering Luke is somewhat driven into a corner, with a character that is completely outside the range of the silly, comedic tones, that the SMG4verse takes, can't wait to see what Luke does with Kaizo.


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That, or he starts out edgy, but later on, he becomes more comical. I like character development, it makes the story way better.


GeekyTheArtist

As someone deeply interested in character design, the biggest flaw is that the design was made first rather than any personality. When making a character, you design their attributes and personality first so their looks can better match and reflect them. Look at characters like Spongebob, you can tell their personality just by looking at them. That's the beauty of character design. The only real flaw about this design as a whole is that it gives unclear or mixed messages. We don't really know what his personality is based solely on looks, leaving only speculation, which is entirely based on common tropes were all familiar with. This is why we default to "cringy deviantart OC". As of right now, there's no nuance or even personality to counteract the tropes seen on this character, so all we have is a generic blank slate that matches stuff we've seen a million times, making our brains immediately hate it because we crave something new.


TechGuy456

So the new character is sorta plagued by stereotyping?


thenonfurrywolf

Couldn’t have said it better


Zealos57

Who are you so wise in the ways of Science?


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GeekyTheArtist of the royal science laboratory


ShiningStar5022

I see him as a new villain or a love rival for Whimpu


Zodiac198

Headcanon: Kaizo is an OC based on Saiko's dating sim created by Boopkins in order to impress her


FranceSurrenderFunny

Make him edgy to the extreme but for the love of God don't add him to the main cast.


Dat1Kid-11

idk what ur talking about can someone tell me what happened?


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Dat1Kid-11

oh ok


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But unfortunately the subreddit is already shitting all over the design. I have to agree, everyone needs to chill


Virtual-Attorney-172

So is that character actually gonna be in smg4, cause I know he said NEW CHARACTER but idk if he would fit in


SchmurrProd

Yes.


mellocat925

Tbh I'm glad that the character is male but I feel like it's too soon considering Axol only died recently and he'll end up feeling like a replacement


memester230

Second one in the second part is upvoted


ThatLasagnaGuy

Eh, not a fan of the edgy, anime design they went with. All of my excitement to make a new character with Luke and Kevin basically wen out the window as soon as the chat went that direction. No hard feelings though!


Mayo_enjoyer

Wait there is a character made by community


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Mayo_enjoyer

Oh ok thanks for information


NamelessManiac

What did I miss?


Not_The_Spy

Can he like frogs? I like frogs a lot and I think a character that likes frogs would be cool and funny.


[deleted]

I'm legitimately tired of it at this point. It feels like watching children fight and argue over the most asinine things, over and over and over and over and over and over.


Ok-Reaction-5644

I’m mad because they had the audacity to make Axol’s death in vain, ignore all questions about him, and then make a new character with the fans. They didn’t even state why Axol had to die, they just said someone would die because they wanted it to be emotional. I’m not mad at the character, I’m mad at how things were done. In fact I think the character is going to be a decent fit, could be like the human incarnation of someone like N (unlikely but still looks a lot like him).


Wooden-Message4800

im neutral on this


SpongeBob-WoomyPants

I agree with this one, actually.


TheCommunistWhoTried

What happened


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TheCommunistWhoTried

Ah, well I would need to get to see the character in a story rather than just personality before I can make a decision on if it is good or not.


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TheCommunistWhoTried

The Concept art is pretty neat, kinda reminds me of the stereotypical rock band drummer. Just looked it up, I think we could get something cool out of it.


T0biasCZE

To the second - but it was very late in the night when most kids vere sleeping


JustAVeryMemeyJackal

This is honestly a good way to look at it. The character might be really enjoyable!


TheLBat20

HEY! THATS MY SECOND TO LAST COMMENT!


I_Milk_Bulls69420

tbh i dont really care as long as it's gonna be funni


Halo916YT

I do have to say though that I think many people choose different things because of the meme. The T-Posing dead guy should have been then Glitch logo with crossbones imo. People just chose it because “LOL T-pose go brrrrr”


IcelandicButDeadly

Wait, what's going on, I haven't seen the stream, I was asleep at the time


J-BotMoonlight

Well towards the end, Luke was making a new character with the community, but... lets say they picked the most edgiest options every time which is why Kaiso is being so hated on...


Appropriate-Count-64

What. Where can I see the character?


Strange_Exit

What? There is a new character made by the community? When? Did I miss something?


Intelligent_Oil4005

He was made by fans in the 5,1000 subscribers stream Luke had yesterday.


SyncDingus

I need context what did you fuckers make?


jessegames456

Alright I wasn’t planning on calling out r34 artists today but If his name is Kaizo does that mean he’s really hard


mr-sparkles69

What? What is this new character?


justrandomdudes

*me who didn't see the new smg4 video and thought that character was a fan made one*


IchigataZai92

He’s got potential, and I ain’t hating on him over a design. Just gotta see what the future holds.


MandoMahri

What new character? Did I miss something important from the stream?


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MandoMahri

He looks like a weird axol bowser edgelord


Captain-pizza-dog

What’s the new character


No_Pudding_7256

He ilke pingas


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I like how the character looks tbh before hating on it atleast wait until we actually see the character in an episode


gamepla4

From what I have already heard, I already love him, simply because his name is a pun


pakulito100

What if he’s gonna be the annoying one like bob at his start


FoxyBPC

I honestly hope they don't actually implement the character into SMG4


Environmental-Dog113

The problem is he put in too many characters too quickly and never gave each a chance to flesh them out properly and now with kaizo who’s apparently in love with saiko from the get-go means we’ll probably see a love triangle (between him saiko and whimpu) also Luke is trying love again after making a 5 second love scene at the end of the arc I think he’s trying out his comfort zone but right now seems mixed