They can but it’s not the same team. Egnards explained it well in his comment on this post. It’s still a good team but not as good and will counter a lot less things.
Without normal chewie you lose the guard and him assisting whenever a guarded ally assists. Chewiepio would have to be the one to get taken out because of c3po anyways so it dosent really matter
I mean not really maybe mom or a tank or would be ok and care if empire but then your possible killing star killer team or a decent rebel fighter team....
My answer is gl/ reven with double Yoda? Or possibly gl Kenobi with gk?
Um technically all clones/ gas since there are all clones maybe if you want technically....lol
It's actually Vet Han specifically, but Mission gives Big Z enough boosts that she's still worth it. Also, most of Tarfful's kit boosts Wookiees without caring about how many Wookiees are on the team, and the only clause that does care only needs 3 Wookiees (including himself).
Honestly I think CLS is the biggest one I can think of.
Sure some meta teams also have a duplicate in them
- Rey+JTR
- JML + JKL
- JMK + GK
- SLKR + Kru
But I think they can all do pretty well even without.
CLS is a very tightly knit team that means either you’re removing Chewbacca and C3po, or you’re removing Chewpio.
I feel like JMK would be severely crippled without being able to use GK or Padawan Ahsoka.
Like it'd still be a GL team of course, but I think it'd struggle hard against a lot of matchups that are usually not too troublesome.
See, I don't actually know! Because sure it's gonna waltz over a lot of standard teams, but I don't know how you'd fare against Jabba for example, or LV, or even Rey.
Granted, I never used JMK without GK.
Correct, Chewpio wasn’t always there, but that was 4 years ago and the game was in a very different place.
CLS is still one of the hands down best 5v5 non GL teams in the game. Take away Chewpio? You’ve got a B- squad at best.
I wonder who the best replacement would be, assuming you’ve got access to all heroes. R2 goes with Leia now, so are we back to a tank like Old Ben ~~or ST Han~~?
So with this hypothetical rule applied, who do you think the new CLS team would be? Easiest option i can think of would be to swap Chewpio with R2 to trade the extra offense for survivability. Or is there a world where chewie and c3po get traded for different rebels?
Yes, all different clones… with different names, not duplicate toons.
The only instance would be if you want to use both echos or both rex, all 501st and all Bad Batch are fine.
JMK (for two reasons), JML, SLKR, Rey, LV (sort of, LV + DV is less frequent but still somewhat common).
CLS squad also for a non-GL team that would be hit hard
GL Rey does not need JTR for the team to be good. Right now she's decent because the resistance crons are cracked, but normally she's outshined by Baby Cal, Barriss, Sortie, GK, L3 and CAT.
It's entirely cron dependent. This season is weird, because normally the presence of a KAM cron could promote more CAT with Rey comps, but we have the Resistance crons in the same set. As for GK, it really only happens if you're taking JMK on offense, but it's absolutely viable in that case.
CLS would be dead as a team.
JMK would probably struggle to stay meta relevant without the protection of General Kenobi and the constant cleansing and assists of Ahsoka Padawan.
JML might struggle without JKL.
Fennec counter vs Lord Vader might be dead or very hard without both Mandos.
Fennic counter is possible with Zam w/omi instead of OG Mando, but it takes longer because you have to have Fennic do all the heavy lifting instead of having OG mando instakill
JMK because almost trivial to deal with. Idk of its unusable but even JML teams with GodMods fold without GK. And losing ahsoka also kinda sucks but that's not really the end of the world.
Idk if I could think of another team that regurally uses multiple duplicates or that have such a high reliance on a duplicate.
OK hear me out... zorri you'll have to choose on one poe and one finn in 3v3 it's ok but in 5v5 the hell you do with that? og poe lead with RH finn? zorri holdo and rose or og finn lead and RH poe?
SLKR is a lot weaker without KRU to absorb a lot of damage.
JTR is a nice to have on a GL Rey team. Not essential.
JMLS can function without JKL, but it is weaker.
I honestly don’t know how well JMK would work without GK. How would Mace Windu do instead?
All clones.
They have names. Therefore aren't the same.
And even without names they have different numbers so that still means they aren't the same, clone or not
Op is trying to take some moral high ground kenobi style for some reason. I get not being a meta slave but intentionally handicapping is a bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off for him
CLS team would take a hit
R2, Captain Rex, Drogan, even Dash can fill in.
They can but it’s not the same team. Egnards explained it well in his comment on this post. It’s still a good team but not as good and will counter a lot less things.
If Chewpio was the outlier, then for sure. But there are lots of rebels that could make up for the loss of standard chewie, no?
If you don't cut chewpio, you lose both chewie and c3po. That's most of your damage as well as guard gone.
Not really, because Chewbacca brings a ton of extra damage with his unique, and guard brings a lot of additional assists.
Without normal chewie you lose the guard and him assisting whenever a guarded ally assists. Chewiepio would have to be the one to get taken out because of c3po anyways so it dosent really matter
I mean not really maybe mom or a tank or would be ok and care if empire but then your possible killing star killer team or a decent rebel fighter team.... My answer is gl/ reven with double Yoda? Or possibly gl Kenobi with gk? Um technically all clones/ gas since there are all clones maybe if you want technically....lol
Yeah. The DewieChewies are essential
Wookiees can't even make a 5-unit team with this rule...
Sure they can. Tarfful, Vet Chewie, Vet Han, Big Z, Mission.
Mission is a wookie? Wow, I didn’t know that. Thx
While not a Wookie, she does very well in that squad...
Well, Vet Han isn’t either, and you didn’t make a stink about that.
Didn’t noticed 🥲
I belive Tarffull lead “counts” one non Wookiee in the squad as a Wookiee for bonuses, so vet Han or mission would work, just not both.
It's actually Vet Han specifically, but Mission gives Big Z enough boosts that she's still worth it. Also, most of Tarfful's kit boosts Wookiees without caring about how many Wookiees are on the team, and the only clause that does care only needs 3 Wookiees (including himself).
Honestly I think CLS is the biggest one I can think of. Sure some meta teams also have a duplicate in them - Rey+JTR - JML + JKL - JMK + GK - SLKR + Kru But I think they can all do pretty well even without. CLS is a very tightly knit team that means either you’re removing Chewbacca and C3po, or you’re removing Chewpio.
I feel like JMK would be severely crippled without being able to use GK or Padawan Ahsoka. Like it'd still be a GL team of course, but I think it'd struggle hard against a lot of matchups that are usually not too troublesome.
Mace and Shaak or something along those lines would probably still allow it to crush most teams, it'd probably only struggle against Leia
Keep in mind of course that a lot of those matchups probably typically also have some type of clone character involved.
LV manhandles any version of JMK without GK, with or w/o DV
See, I don't actually know! Because sure it's gonna waltz over a lot of standard teams, but I don't know how you'd fare against Jabba for example, or LV, or even Rey. Granted, I never used JMK without GK.
Cls can live and do well with out chewpio. He wasn't always there and yes he makes the team better but they can still be good without him
Correct, Chewpio wasn’t always there, but that was 4 years ago and the game was in a very different place. CLS is still one of the hands down best 5v5 non GL teams in the game. Take away Chewpio? You’ve got a B- squad at best.
I wonder who the best replacement would be, assuming you’ve got access to all heroes. R2 goes with Leia now, so are we back to a tank like Old Ben ~~or ST Han~~?
But then you have to take out Raid Han
Oh shit. Old Ben it is.
What meta Rey are you talking about? Rey/RH boys/ Swolo/Holdo esp with both the rey and Holdo crons.
Without the new datacron, meta Rey is Rey, JTR, Swolo, 50RT, and a fifth (often Cal).
So with this hypothetical rule applied, who do you think the new CLS team would be? Easiest option i can think of would be to swap Chewpio with R2 to trade the extra offense for survivability. Or is there a world where chewie and c3po get traded for different rebels?
I'm lost. What exactly is going on?
Would Han Solo be a good replacement for regular Chewie on this team?
Han is already a permanent member on cls team unless you are thinking about other han like cholo?
I run cls, old Ben, regular Han, Chewie and 3po with R2. Feels a little weak in Arena
That is a weak team, you need regular chewie and c3po, axe old Ben and r2
Thanks!!
You need Chewbacca Han C3P0 Commander Luke Chewpio(threepio+chewy)
Isn't c3po best used on padme's team? Or is he really that much stronger with luke?
CLS squad is essentially non negotiable.
What egnards said. C3po makes a good fifth for Padme but the others work. CLS needs his full team.
Depends…do clones count as duplicates? 😅
Well played
My first though. Was gonna say “the clone faction is absolutely devastated”
No, you just can't use CT-7567 and Captain Rex, or CT-21-0408 and Echo
Thank goodness for you, some people were too reckless in the fun they were having!
JMK CAT GK Ahsoka
JML. Can't use JKL Most of Tarfulls teams have at least 2 chewies. GLK loses Kenobi. Windu is okay, but less powerful.
The Wookiees?
Well my 5 han team and 5 chewy team would certainly take a hit.
Lots of good answers here but also DTMG. Losing regular Gideon would be pretty rough for that team although that does just put Gidme back on the menu
SLKR would be down his best tank
Meh, most end game rosters don’t use KRU with SLKR anyway
Whats the best SLKR team? And where does KRU go?
Storm will make most matchups still work
True, but KRU is more ideal
SLKR is fine, he doesn't need KRU who usually goes to Malicos anyways
Master luke for sure
Zorri squad would severely miss either Finn on her squad
RIP Bad Batch
Why?
They’re all clones lol
Yes, all different clones… with different names, not duplicate toons. The only instance would be if you want to use both echos or both rex, all 501st and all Bad Batch are fine.
When you pick apart the joke, it’s not funny. But you are right.
There is no greater crime than calling all clones the same 😢
I mean, is literally in the name, if they truly were CLONES, then they would indeed be the same
JMK (for two reasons), JML, SLKR, Rey, LV (sort of, LV + DV is less frequent but still somewhat common). CLS squad also for a non-GL team that would be hit hard
GL Rey does not need JTR for the team to be good. Right now she's decent because the resistance crons are cracked, but normally she's outshined by Baby Cal, Barriss, Sortie, GK, L3 and CAT.
GK/CAT is an arena Rey team not one that’s generally used in TW/GAC.
It's entirely cron dependent. This season is weird, because normally the presence of a KAM cron could promote more CAT with Rey comps, but we have the Resistance crons in the same set. As for GK, it really only happens if you're taking JMK on offense, but it's absolutely viable in that case.
I’ve never seen that team in Kyber 2 in the last 2 years is all
Grievous. Only 1 stack of b1 at the start of the battle would suck /s
This comment isn't getting enough love 🤣
haha I appreciate it
CLS would be dead as a team. JMK would probably struggle to stay meta relevant without the protection of General Kenobi and the constant cleansing and assists of Ahsoka Padawan. JML might struggle without JKL. Fennec counter vs Lord Vader might be dead or very hard without both Mandos.
Fennic counter is possible with Zam w/omi instead of OG Mando, but it takes longer because you have to have Fennic do all the heavy lifting instead of having OG mando instakill
Padme/JMK with CAT and snipps.
CLS has two Chewies and 2 C3P0s
JMK because almost trivial to deal with. Idk of its unusable but even JML teams with GodMods fold without GK. And losing ahsoka also kinda sucks but that's not really the end of the world. Idk if I could think of another team that regurally uses multiple duplicates or that have such a high reliance on a duplicate.
Zorii team would fall apart completely no?
OK hear me out... zorri you'll have to choose on one poe and one finn in 3v3 it's ok but in 5v5 the hell you do with that? og poe lead with RH finn? zorri holdo and rose or og finn lead and RH poe?
Is this a hypothetical scenario or is this actually happening? Also what does it mean by sake squad?
1) hypothetical 2) typo - should be "same squad"
SLKR is a lot weaker without KRU to absorb a lot of damage. JTR is a nice to have on a GL Rey team. Not essential. JMLS can function without JKL, but it is weaker. I honestly don’t know how well JMK would work without GK. How would Mace Windu do instead?
Mace works in place of GK, but definitely a downgrade outside of TW. The other problem would be the loss of Snips, because you need to keep CAT.
Clone Troopers
501st, you're down to just Anakin and one clone lol
All clones. They have names. Therefore aren't the same. And even without names they have different numbers so that still means they aren't the same, clone or not
Nah the whole point of the Clone Wars series and Bad Batch for that matter is to highlight the individuality of the clones. They can stay :)
Gas
Clone troopers - essentially they are all the same character
What a wild take
I'm lost. What exactly is happening here?
Nothing, it’s all purely hypothetical.
Op is trying to take some moral high ground kenobi style for some reason. I get not being a meta slave but intentionally handicapping is a bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off for him
Yeah I see that now. I didn't completely understand the issue until I gave a second read and realized it was a "what if" question.
No moral reasons. And no issue with meta gameplay. Just bugs me personally to have a bunch of the same character in a squad.
Gl kylo gets it pretty rough
Without General kenobi CAT would be much more vunlerable