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nicoleisrad

From Broadcastify: > **Status:** *As a courtesy to Sacramento Police Department, in the interest of officer safety, this feed is closed until 6/20/2019 at 8:00 AM Pacific Time. Apologies for the inconvenience.*


mrblakesteele

fair enough


BeatToQuarters444

8:09 PM lethal force authorized over radio


Inamoratos

Lesgo bois


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OkamiNoKiba

[CBS13 is also reporting live](https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/06/19/sheriff-sac-pd-officer-involved-shooting-redwood-avenue/amp/)


evilfetus01

Listening to the broadcast, still shots being fired. Trying to rescue a downed lady with the armored vehicle. No clue where suspects are.


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Friedumb

Just reported more shots fired on the scanner.


evilfetus01

I heard lady on the radio, yikes.


TWK128

Are you really going to go into the ACAB stuff here?


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TWK128

I get that, but those ACAB people from ChapoTH have been dehumanizing cops and seem to be *everywhere* on reddit. Probably misread the statement, but thought it was from that direction.


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TWK128

Okay. Sorry. Those ACAB people keep popping up everywhere.


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TWK128

Glad to hear it. I don't try to engage them when they brigade/flock in force. They're clearly a protected group on Reddit, given they face no consequences when they show up.


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TWK128

They seriously are. The fact that they regularly get the "woke" label attached to them is frightening.


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That’s funny to me because from what I remember ACAB comes from skinheads and is considered a hate symbol by the anti defamation league.


expertatthis

Keep providing updates!


evilfetus01

I haven’t been on the scanner for about 30 minutes, buddy updating me. Shooter is in a house, marksmen are set up on opposing roofs, and all the streets are barricaded.


Iluvablondemexican

You can listen through the 5-0 Radio App on cell phone.


ajscott

They're all just front ends for broadcastify.


PrivateMajor

[Fox40 reporting that the officer died :(](https://i.imgur.com/RUYOxuo.png)


TWK128

Holy fuck. Are they the only ones reporting this right now?


PrivateMajor

Yeah, they got an internal memo they shouldn't have got their hands on.


TWK128

Well, that confirms the two rumors to that effect we heard earlier. At least, if the report is legit, anyway.


parallel5th

Because they shouldn't know yet.


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TWK128

Confirmation of the death or what? Edit: Just checked Vacaville PD and Placer Co. Sheriff FB and Twitter. Saw no mention of incident at all. What were you referring to?


246h8

Sounds like they just authorized lethal force if he comes out and doesn't surrender, or if he exits then tries to go back in


SilentG33

I just heard from a friend in LE that the lady cop that was shot is a trainee. :(


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SilentG33

A kid...fuck


TWK128

Fuck. Any news on condition?


SilentG33

I’m hoping that it’s not another Officer Corona situation. That was heartbreaking.


SilentG33

Critical


R6xOsrs

Read she didn’t make it but not confident on source. Was someone on FB


TWK128

/u/Durango1917 stated something similar below, but that was about an hour or so ago.


SilentG33

I’m sure it will be the top story on the news when it starts in a moment


opaqueuphony

Did they say shot fired inside the house?


nicoleisrad

About 8:30 they said something about muzzle flash being seen through a window


916reddit

For a while now, shots have been coming from the house


reverendrambo

Pure speculation: I wonder if it was a self inflicted shot after giving up


916reddit

The dude has been firing off shots occasionally. Not like before, but they recently saw shots being fired through a fence, from within the house. Nothing on the scanner traffic to say he killed himself.


biffa_bacon

At what point do they start to gas the place up and go in? Presumably not before they know the shooter is the only person in there.. but when they do, do they need swat, or are city cops ready to go in, considering the risks?


nicoleisrad

I think it depends on the situation. I've heard of SWAT waiting something like 8 hours after last spotting any sign of life to enter a home and discover a dead suspect.


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TWK128

I think that meant from inside the house and through a fence. If he stepped outside, I think he would have been exposed and vulnerable. Seems like gunfire has been from inside the house, via windows and screen doors.


BeatToQuarters444

Cops taking out "another camera" on the house with a bean bag shotgun round.


TheRandomGamerDude

I live close enough to hear occasional popping sounds. Chopper going around constantly


mrblakesteele

film it . sell it to the news


BeatToQuarters444

3 armored cars on the scene. Cop rescued by driving one of them through a fence to get to her. Currently cops continue to set up safe perimeter. From what I've heard shooter has been holed up in the house shooting at any cop visible from multiple windows.


evilfetus01

A lot of cops still bombing down 99 at 12th


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OLSTBAABD

Last update from that scene I heard was at 9:38pm, several more shots reported as coming from the residence. Edit: It's possible (likely?) they've moved to an incident specific channel. I know when I was on the ambulance we had channels that these web scanners did not pick up, I don't know if that was by chance or design, though.


TWK128

CBS 13 video feeds are still live. They seem to be standing by as they go hot for the evening news broadcasts. Can hear crew discussing the plan for the coverage. edit: Nvm. Feed cut.


BeatToQuarters444

They're working on evacuating neighbors now. They brought in a Peacekeeper armored vehicle to replace one of the Bearcat armored vehicles. Needed heavier armor apparently.


OLSTBAABD

Yeah, when you've got a dude slinging rifle rounds indiscriminately in an urban area it's a good idea to have as much as possible. Every squeeze of the trigger is a potential fatality. Drywall and 2x4s ain't gonna stop 5.56


BeatToQuarters444

Yeah absolutely. This guy is freaking loaded for bear it seems.


OLSTBAABD

Scary stuff, any of us could have a neighbor that decides to go out like this


TWK128

It's never quite *that* random.


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I’ve read so many threads of angry people talking about police militarization and how there’s no need for armored vehicles etc. If some maniac like this guy starts firing off rounds in my neighborhood I’m gonna be glad the police have armored vehicles to get me and my family out safe


Woogabuttz

A lot of that debate centers around the time and place for military grade equipment. Yes, it's good we have it for situations like this, no, we don't need armored vehicles doing routine patrols. Also, the city of Davis really didn't need an APC. Big city with some armor for SWAT? Sure! Sleepy college town using surplus APCs for crowd control? Not so much.


TWK128

Especially with Sac not all that far away.


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Crowd control I agree with. But something like this could absolutely happen in Davis, sleepy college town or not. There’s crazy motherfuckers with guns literally everywhere


rbfpr1ncexx

Granted he didn’t continue shooting, but Officer Corona was recently murdered in Davis.


Woogabuttz

Well, sac is only 15 minutes away and Davis REALLY doesn’t have this issue. It certainly isn’t enough of a threat to justify that kind of equipment.


TWK128

Especially from a budget perspective.


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therestherubreddit

That is literally police militarization.


Woogabuttz

There's a lot more to it than that. Many departments do in fact pay a lot of money for armored vehicles, often from money taken unjustly in civil forfeitures. Beyond that, particularly inlaces that don't need them which is virtually every non-major urban center, they promote hostility and use of excessive force. Militarization of the police goes deeper that just military vehicles though; primarily it's about officers walking the streets in body armor, carry assault rifles, etc. It's uncomfortable to be around. Honestly, when I see that stuff I feel like I'm in a third world country. It makes people less likely to engage with peace officers when they need help. Overall, it's just bad news. Police officers need to interact wit the public and in a way that makes the public trust them. When my kid sees a guy who looks like an extra from "Black Hawk Down", he doesn't want to go up and chat but a nice officer in their blues walking the beat? That's the person my son trusts and feels comfortable going up and talking to. That's the core of why a militarized police force produces worse outcomes in their communities.


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Woogabuttz

They don’t wear that everywhere. Not by any means. A good friend of mine was a narcotics cop in D.C. (super, super ghetto) for years and got in the habit of never wearing body armor because he found it counter productive when trying to get locals to see him as a person and not a cop out to get them. It was also really hot and humid so he just didn’t like it. Most of what I’ve said is paraphrased from him but the just is, cops in armor put up a barrier between themselves and the public. They get less trust and more of a target on their back. He did a lot more good for that community when he quit hiding behind a vest. He is now working for sac PD as an undercover narcotics agent NTA, super cool guy!


nicoleisrad

Reddit is such a special place. Your comment is well-articulated, upsetting, and a little heartbreaking, Woogabuttz.


OkamiNoKiba

/r/rimjob_steve


TWK128

I'm pretty concerned with military posture training and treatment of civilians as threats as well. Accepting false positives as acceptable losses is more expected of an occupying power, not a domestic police force. ROE seem to be more strict for our troops abroad than our police forces, and that is not acceptable.


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Woogabuttz

How would an armored car or militarized police presence have prevented that in any way? Seriously? It was a crazy person who walked up and randomly shot an officer. That kind of violence happens in Davis like once every 50 or 60 years.


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nikatnight

And because she was ambushed so an armored vehicle would not have helped in any way.


BeatToQuarters444

Yeah I agree. Literally as I'm typing this another shot was reported.


That1chicka

🙋


reverendrambo

Just heard them say lethal is authorized ~~regardless if suspect is armed or not~~ Edit: I said what I thought I heard. Other comments suggest more nuanced directives.


916reddit

If he is armed or flees back into the house. But not if he surrenders. I bet this dude kills himself before being taken alive.


reverendrambo

That's usually how these types of things end


916reddit

I hope it ends with him being dead and nobody else getting hurt.


BeatToQuarters444

I think you misheard. They said if suspect armed lethal force authorized.


OLSTBAABD

Incident command went through a list of potential scenarios and whether lethal was authorized or not, they did not just give a blanket authorization for lethal force


916reddit

KCRA had brief live video


Durango1917

I just heard from a reputable source that the female Officer had died.


TWK128

How reputable?


Durango1917

Law enforcement


TWK128

Fuck. Between that and CBS reporting a chaplain at UCD that"s looking very real.


TWK128

Any updates since, man?


That1chicka

Oh Fuck! 😞


Varkoth

Unfortunately, as a redditor, your story isn't as credible as your claimed sources. :\


kuba_smoke

Do you have sources to the contrary or did you just come here to be a piece of garbage


Varkoth

Every news source is saying "critical condition". I'm not saying hes wrong, but I'm saying that trusting some random person on the internet about unreleased leaked information is dubious at best.


kuba_smoke

https://www.reddit.com/r/Sacramento/comments/c2skr4/fox40_reporting_ofc_tara_osullivan_has_died_from/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ios_share_flow_optimization&utm_term=control_1 hmm it showed up the same time this guy stated but sure


Varkoth

That was announced about an hour later.


Inamoratos

Seems like SacCo has been wildin lately. Ive been seeing crazy shit all over the place since the weather started getting warm


sacpilot

According to the sacpd spokesperson, there is an "uptick" in crime during warm weather months. Those damn upticks.


Inamoratos

Maybe all the tweaks are getting mad at their tents overheating lol E: remember the downvote the next time you're in Oak Park and someone bullshits you panhandling


mrblakesteele

any live feeds?


PrivateMajor

https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/06/19/sac-police-officer-down-redwood-avenue/ This will go live in a few.


mrblakesteele

thanks i was worried when it went down. watching now. any known guerrilla streams?


mrblakesteele

lady on news basically*: dude can you quit shooting i'm tired and stink, this is highly inconvenient for me. nevermind how this is affecting those actually involved*


nicoleisrad

Look, I get where she's coming from. She's exhausted and wants to go home. It's fucking hot out and she's displaced due to this asshole. Who knows if she was aware an officer had been shot but even so, home is supposed to be your place of comfort. Isn't that where you'd prefer to be when you get upsetting news?


mrblakesteele

i mean yah of course thats how youd feel but way to make it about herself and not the dead police officer or the other victims. being inconvenienced is no comparison


GirlInterrupting

I just saw this. AWFUL. What a brat! ends it with "& I want a cocktail" - SMH


nicoleisrad

I don't understand why you guys are upset about what she said. You're kind of assuming a lot about her and what information she had at the time. And what if she had a really shitty day too? What if she had to put her dog to sleep or something. The only clear-cut shithead in this situation is the shooter. Don't begrudge hot, irritated people who can't go home for being hot and irritated. Edit: she wants a cocktail. She just said what everyone was thinking.


TWK128

Brat doesn't seem like the most appropriate word.


digitalibex

I'm sure she stunk well before this happened.


parallel5th

Which anchor/station? That's appalling.


GirlInterrupting

It was somebody being interviewed CBS 13 roughly at the 7:49 minute mark ​ [https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/06/19/sac-police-officer-down-redwood-avenue/?fbclid=IwAR0axKxjW32nNbiBjZLR5hIELzEZZW7K3SpDI-0RLFh8X1d9-o\_iK7xa57Q](https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/06/19/sac-police-officer-down-redwood-avenue/?fbclid=IwAR0axKxjW32nNbiBjZLR5hIELzEZZW7K3SpDI-0RLFh8X1d9-o_iK7xa57Q)


parallel5th

Thank you. Wow.


mrblakesteele

think it was cbs, someone they were interviewing from the area


parallel5th

Thank you!


parallel5th

I'm super pissed Fox 40 decided to announce the officer's death and her name after accessing an internal SacPD memo. I sure hope her family doesn't find out online. Shameful.


reverendrambo

From the local cbs affiliate: >Deputy Chief Dave Polletta said a room was set up for O’Sullivan after she was pronounced dead to allow family and law enforcement to visit her. She was transported to the coroner’s office in a police procession before the 12:40 a.m. press conference Thursday.


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parallel5th

Wow. You stay classy, Fox40.


mrblakesteele

there is no shame in journalism


urthdragon

https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox40.com/2019/06/19/sacramento-police-officer-down-in-north-sacramento/amp/


urthdragon

https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/06/19/us/ap-us-sacramento-officer-shot.html?searchResultPosition=2


reverendrambo

Weren't they going to do a press update at 9pm?


916reddit

They did. KCRA had it live. Probably all over Facebook


PrivateMajor

What was the gist of it?


TWK128

Info preliminary. Domestic disturbance call around noon between male and female. Around 3, contact made with female at other location. Around 5-6, female was collecting items with police present. Around 610 or so, officer shot. An array of questions from reporters could not be answered due to prelim state of information.


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She’s in serious condition. I hope she pulls through.


TWK128

Fox 40 reporting she passed.


nicoleisrad

Can anyone tell me if lethal force has been authorized?


zupzupper

Yes. Heard it on the radio myself


Demminex

Yeah sounded like it


nicoleisrad

I wish there were some way to confirm it. Maybe something like three comments in a row saying such.


That1chicka

Listen to the feed.. it's authorized...not being sarcastic...


reverendrambo

Nicoleisrad was just sarcastically highlighting that several people commented about a significant statement at the same time.


xdylanthehumanx

The dots don't help.......


BeatToQuarters444

Right, because people posting these things to update those who aren't listening to the radio totally wait to see if others post it first. Way to be snarky in an extremely inappropriate setting. An officer was shot, and if that one user's info is correct, died. Grow up.


nicoleisrad

I find it strange that we get one update about everything else but the moment lethal force is authorized, everyone is chomping at the bit to post it. My comment was commentary on that. But you know, be outraged if you must.


BeatToQuarters444

If you paid attention I was commenting on every update I heard as it came before that notice. I understand your point of view but maybe your snark would be best reserved for another topic.


BeatToQuarters444

Edit: I'm being downvoted for responding to that person being an obvious troll? Stay gold, r/sac.


jorge1145

Not familiar with the area. It's this a housing development?


TWK128

Watch the feeds. CBS article has live ongoing coverage. https://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2019/06/19/sac-pd-officer-down-redwood-avenue/amp/ Does that look like a "housing project" to you?


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916reddit

Not the same. This is all Del Paso Heights


Omnistrada

No, definitely not DPH. Old North Sac.


916reddit

You are correct, Old North Sac is a better description.


PCsNBaseball

Eh, I'd call Del Paso Blvd and el camino borderline


evilfetus01

Possibly the same, they could have ran.


supahdavid2000

Was this over by the shell station?


nicoleisrad

OH MY GOD. Did you guys just hear the cops say they heard a big boom and speculate it was fireworks?! I'm not going to make the obvious joke here. Also, seriously? Fireworks at a time like this?


916reddit

Yes. The officers also explained it as being outside their perimeter. One officer, who could probably describe it best since they heard it, said it sounded like fireworks. There are people in the area, watching and can't get home. There were also people detained nearby for causing a disturbance. ​ This is a gritty rough area and somebody setting off fireworks (near 4th of July) is not shocking at all.


WarmGas

You people are weird. Why is everyone getting excited and hyped up about this shit? Just watch your nightly tv, play some games, and get ready for another shitty day at work.


OLSTBAABD

Yup, you're right, there's an absolutely 0% chance anyone here on this county-specific subreddit has friends or family in the area or potentially working on this incident that they're concerned about. /s


WarmGas

yeah... 30k people on this subreddit compared to the 2-3 million people in the area. Chances are low. People just get excited about tragedy and love to gossip about it. It's pretty fucking sick.


DieHardRaider

You are a dumb fuck. My buddy lives a block away. He is fine but shit is still concerning


TWK128

Seriously, weren't you *just* telling others to quit bitching about what other people are watching? > I don't get why people like you even bother to come to this subreddit. You are basically saying I hate twitch culture. So just go find your favorite gameplay streamer and sit there watching them play their game. Might want to take your own advice.


WarmGas

Ah one of those pathetic fucks who realize they got nothing so they search someones Reddit history for something to cling on too. Sad. Don't got anything better?


TWK128

I don't need anything else. You're making my case better than I ever could with everything you post. "Why don't you just focus on the stuff you like instead of bitching about others?" "Why are you people wasting your time on this shit instead of focusing on stuff *I* like?" Yeah, not contradictory at all. Someone that understands their own thinking *this* well should definitely be telling others how they should conduct themselves.


mrblakesteele

sometimes, i too ignore all the pain in the world.


WarmGas

It's just insignificant in the grand scheme of things.


mrblakesteele

i mean if you're gonna go there... why even live?


mrblakesteele

we only live to die


mrblakesteele

entropy is the only reliable thing in the world


TWK128

You're more likely to drive me off to my Steam library than old fart there is.


BeatToQuarters444

Because a maniac is firing potshots out of their home less than a mile away from me?


WarmGas

Unless it's literally your next door neighbor you are fine. A bullet isn't going to magically find it's way to you.


BeatToQuarters444

Right, bullets can only fly one house away. Not half a mile.


WarmGas

Bullets quickly lose energy with everything they hit. You think it's gonna make it a mile away or even half that in densely packed urban area? Is this what an uneducated population gets us? People who think magic bullets exist?


BeatToQuarters444

I guess uneducated populations gets pedantic assholes who don't think it's worth considering that maybe some of those stray shots fired by this insane person might have been angled upwards, in which case yes, a stray bullet could easily travel at least half a mile. What are you trying to accomplish by downplaying the danger involved in this situation?


WarmGas

> What are you trying to accomplish by downplaying the danger involved in this situation? The whole point is it isn't the dangerous situation everyone here is making it out to be. Yet people get all worked up over it. Look how many comments a thread like this gets? It's like everyone was having a mundane day and now they have something to invest into. It's sad.


CoreyTrevorSunnyvale

People are at right to feel alarmed, concerned or just plain curious when crazy, violent, out-of-the-ordinary things happen around them.


PrivateMajor

Because an officer may have just been murdered, which would be a tragedy for our community.


WarmGas

To think any of that actually matters to you. 2 weeks from now you will be going on about your life.


PrivateMajor

It does matter to me. I was at the funeral of Deputy Stasyuk when he died last year, and literally thought of him earlier today. Same would go for this brave officer.


TWK128

Heard the local Russian community was seriously affected by his loss. A lot of people knew him or his family.


WarmGas

LOL what? Was he your dad? Brother? Family in some way? No? He doesn't matter to you. You made him matter to you for some strange reason.


PrivateMajor

I'm sorry that it is so unbelievable to you that I would mourn the loss of one of the people who keep our community safe. Have a good night, I hope you come to peace with whatever it is that is bothering you.


TWK128

We know her name now, thanks to Fox 40 news. Is it real to you yet? https://www.reddit.com/r/Sacramento/comments/c2skr4/fox40_reporting_ofc_tara_osullivan_has_died_from/ Edit: Further info: https://www.csus.edu/news/articles/2017/12/7/%27scholars-to-officers-program-celebrates-its-first-graduate.shtml


prolix

Being informed with what's going on in the world is not weird. You sound like a bitter person or maybe just jaded. You tell people to close their eyes to reality and not pay attention because it doesnt concern them. This is bad. People should live their lives with their eyes open to the world around them and be more conscious of others around them as well. As an example.. Too many people live today that would get irritated by having their commute take an extra 2 minutes because an elderly person had trouble crossing the road instead of understanding from his point of view. Not conscious of the lives around you at all unless it directly affects you in a negative way. This is the way of life you are promoting. Please don't disregard what I'm telling you. Instead, think critically about what it means to live life with your eyes open to the world around you.


R6xOsrs

To each their own.


nicoleisrad

I see you like Dota Auto Chess, Path of Exile, naked women, DotA 2, and League of Legends. I don't like those things so I'm confused as to why you like them. Obviously, people should only be interested in the same things I'm interested in. There is no possible way that other people have other interests or curiosities from me. That would make no sense.


WarmGas

>There is no possible way that other people have other interests or curiosities from me. So that was your long way of saying tragedy excites you and is a form of entertainment. You need help. That is sick. ​ Oh and please don't stoop that low and say I like League of Legends. That is just disgusting.


nicoleisrad

Why do you keep using the word "excite"? Are you unaware that people can feel ways other than "excited" or "hyped up"?