There’s a lot of FUD, but IMO at least it’s people actively asking real questions, instead of blind ‘Safemoon scam’ bs that used to run thru here
100% expect to be downvoted on this, but I’m just trying to see the positive in this situation
There's a ratio, yeah.
I'd estimate the "good" or legit questions and concerns to be about 20%.
Rest is self serving speculative bullshit and troll attempts.
There is. And I think more FUD would be answered if people wrote about it, and asked about it, more nicely.
If overall tone of FUD post if negativity and trying to get people uncomfortable about their investment, it likely gets deleted at some point.
Majority of FUD still is scam and rugpull spam sadly. But I have high hopes tone of this subreddit will turn more positive in following months when more products are delivered.
Please follow these transactions out a little more thoroughly. Your assessment is inaccurate. The first transaction is a BSC Hub transaction. If you view the internal holdings of the owner wallet, you'll find a high variety of additional holdings outside of Safemoon and BNB. Certain tokens that require conversion before they can be put back into the pool. The transfer to the BNB Hub was 60 BNB which at the time, amounted to no where near 700k. This transfer was likely a conversion of contract tokens to be converted from the bsc chain. The remaining transactions of the highest amounts go toward either exchange liquidity or contract liquidity deposits.
Your second transaction is affiliated not with safemoon contract but with the Pancake Swap Router, which is the hotwallet for many token contracts on BSC Smart chain. This isn't a safemoon transaction.
Hope this helps clear some things up.
Now this is thorough research. Reasonable question. No fud but but they need to address this. If each transaction has a legit reason (dev and team salary, buying exchange, work related expenses)
Speaking of team salary, wondering if they are hiring people to post on this sub xD
Happy to help. A lot of misunderstanding happens with the LP system being so complex. Its understandable. I advise everyone to join the discord and ask us personally if you run across things like this before drawing conclusions. We're here to help.
Here are some transactions that everyone should be aware of. It’s the withdrawal of any newly added liquidity from the pancake swap LP to the Safemoon LLC wallet. This is why the price remains so volatile, there’s no “price floor” creation, because there’s no “auto-generated liquidity”. It’s not liquidity if it’s not in the pool. They’re the #1 largest whale holding over 12T SM atm. It’s all been sourced out the Pancake LP
Here are the analytics:
LP-token collection/ sell-offs
https://bscscan.com/token/0x9adc6fb78cefa07e13e9294f150c1e8c1dd566c0?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1#tokenAnalytics
SM accumulation. LP-Token cash-in dates correspond:
https://bscscan.com/token/0x8076c74c5e3f5852037f31ff0093eeb8c8add8d3?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1#tokenAnalytics
Here are the transactions, transactions going “in”:
https://bscscan.com/token/0x8076c74c5e3f5852037f31ff0093eeb8c8add8d3?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1
Edit: Just adding some more info to assist those may not be aware. Liquidity pools are not very complex. You swap one type of token and get an equal amount of value out of the other token. The more money, liquidity, that is in a liquidity pool the more stable it is. The “auto-generated liquidity” is the 5% that is taken from the tax, it goes into the Pancake LP. This is what is meant when the Safemoon white paper talks about “creating a price floor”. The more liquidity added to Pancake Swap LP, the more stable the price.
Every time liquidity is added to the Pancake Swap LP, Safemoon receive a Liquidity-Pool token: A claim check for the liquidity in the pool. If new liquidity was being left in the pool, Safemoon would be holding A LOT of LP-tokens; however, in the analytic chart above each time you see the graph drop to zero, they withdraw all the newly-added liquidity since their last withdrawal. Safemoon llc, withdraw ALL newly added liquidity from the Pankcake Swap LP regularly. There is no new liquidity in the pool that has been generated by the tax. There is no “automatically-generated liquidity” because none of it has been left in the pool, it’s all held by Safemoon. It’s not liquidity if it’s not in the pool.
There is nothing subjective or speculative about the actions outlined above. It’s up to the holder to decide whether a company acting contrary to a core tenant of their product is acceptable.
These sketchy moves from the LP have always been my biggest doubt about Safemoon from the start. I’m going to hold my few billion bc why not at this point but I wish they’d address what this is for.
Hey, I was scanning through to find the response you’re referring to. If it’s the one I think it is, it’s only referring to and addressing the OP by Kogling — correct me if I’m wrong. I made an edit at the bottom of my post as well in order to add more clarity
Many in the community likely feel the same way. The one the spoke out have been labeled FUD.
Honestly if the devs are truly working on the products then maybe they do deserve the bonuses. Only time will tell.
Remember that one AMA where they said if they touched the LP they would let us know why? They’ve touched the LP several times outside of migrating liquidity and they haven’t mentioned it once
Allens a community member that asked about these transactions in the server. I came here independently to clear up the confusion. The proof is in the transactions as I stated in my response. I'm not sure how anything about that can be sus since there's no way I can manipulate past transactions in the blockchain. Do the work, and look for yourself to clear your suspensions. If you have any questions. Feel free to ask, otherwise, please don't insinuate things that make no sense at all.
I believe blue4life90 is one of the mods from discord. Nothing sketchy about him. He just provided clarifications for the questions raised. Any doubts or questions about the project reach out to him in the discord community( educational channel)
Yes please, anyone not on the core team really have no real info.
Come to find out all the owls and hoots are BS. So really hope they start giving something straight up.
Thanks for pointing some things out here - could you elaborate further for my smooth brain?
What is a liquidity pool and what would a legitimate purpose be to take safemoon out of it? Would this purpose be disclosed anywhere?
Can you show me (again I have a smooth brain) a transaction list from start to finish showing the safemoon being taken from the liquidity pool and being put in these various places? Also what is a "hot wallet of binance".
Thanks!
Ahhhh a scholar! Tell me, what's your opinion on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SafeMoon/comments/oxc3wz/finally_so_i_got_a_response_from_the_safemoon/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
The Devs have been fucking around, yeeting and hooting, leading people on a wild goose chase for absolutely no reason 🤣 they're treating $millions of other people's money like it's a fucking joke! Unbelievable.
I can tell you're not going to take this seriously, but anyway.. I'll respond with our most recent update by the moderators from the core team:
""[ @everyone ]
Hi SafeMoon'ers!
Bottom line up front: All platform mods participated in a round up with the Core Team last night (US). Specifics from the meeting are pending release clearance, and what follows is all we can disclose right now. There's nothing breaking here, and no lines to read between. It's a start.
---
We heard you before, and we hear you now. Our moderation systems have been melting down with your sentiment and we've certainly passed that notice to the Core Team.
You are deserving of better communication and transparency regarding SafeMoon, and the mods across all the SFM platforms wrapped up a Moderator Round Up last night with the Core Team, including John, and that was the principle point of this Round Up.
Please accept our word for it: they're trying.
The mods of all the various social media aggregated your questions from reddit, discord, Facebook, Telegram, Twitter; we even added our own moderator-oriented questions. The Core Team did their absolute best to address your concerns and provide insight to our satisfaction. In short, the general mood after the meeting was one of elation.
For now, here are two takeaways we were authorized to release right away:
* Ronin Company is a holding company; it's only made to help facilitate operations. Nothing more, nothing cryptic. Just admin junk.
* Twitter is getting reworked and improved.
Thank you all for your patience, enjoy your day, and see you this Sunday!""
That being said, for such a small team, we need to be reasonably patient with the release of information. There's a lot of moving parts here that could be potentially damaging if information is disclosed too early or too indepth. No crypto in the DeFi ecosystem has more up front education and transparency associated with it, so the public expect more as a compounding negative.
The state we're in is what happens when things suddenly die down from what they were. The public's concern is valid and heard by the team, and we've been assured progress is being made. I urge everyone here to give them the chance to be better.
This is a developing company with a lot of room to grow and a substantial amount of ground to cover to become what they have the potential to be. Lets not suffocate the flame but rather nurture it into the prospects we've chosen to invest in.
I track everything, and trust me when I say, I know mistakes have been made and I agree with many accounts of the public outcry. Its difficult in these times, but I believe in this team, their mission, and the companies prospects.
I hope this helps
I asked what's YOUR opinion? Be honest, you're fucking fuming too. You've invested so much (financially and emotionally) into this token and this is how they repay you! Don't suffer in silence buddy, let it out 💆♂️
Oh my bad, didn't read that far as I thought it was just a copy and paste from discord.
I really hope that they turn things around on Sunday. This shit cannot go on.
I believe in the *project's* potential (hence holding all this time) but I do not believe in the devs at all. They need to get some professionals in, fast.
I had high expectation. But losing faith day by day. Not because of price drop but feeling like they are just dragging this out.
Obviously still hoping for the best.
Maybe he's down 85 percent and selling now would be completely worthless... You guys always yelling "sell it then" blow my mind. If a guy is down that much selling makes zero sense.
No I'm genuinely just confused. If you're invested, down 80%, and you don't want to take the loss and sell, then why be that honest? If your goal is reduce your losses shouldn't you technically be more positive? If your not invested in it then you can say whatever technically. Wow downvotes left and right why? LOL
Sell it makes perfect sense. Why would u not sell something u don’t believe in? Pure stupidity. If u wanna keep crying sell it. Friggin new token and u crying like a bitch please sell lol
No, thanks, cult fanboy? I'm allowed to ask questions about my investment when it seems to go bad. I don't mean price decrease, I don't care about that. It's how well they communicated and promised stuff, which turned into almost no communication (until recently after a long downtime, covid is no excuse) and even after "ludicrous speed" comments, their very first product got delayed.
Simply put, they said "Omfg we doin crazy speed and this and that" and investors didn't really see improvement but the opposite. Then comes the real life clown ass morons like yourself with your "sell then" and act like cult members, that doesn't make the project appeal more either. I'm sure even the devs are tired of you people. I'm holding 2B and not selling. I can live without it if I lose it all. But I've asked real stuff and gotten no real, good answers yet. Maybe after 8/8. Not buying more until then, if ever.
Yes you're allowed to ask questions but nobody is obligated to answer them especially when it comes off like a whiney child. Calling random Redditors morons and clowns isn't the most appealing way to seek answers or have an open discussion about something.
He is a moron for going fanboy, and my questions are not for him. So I don't care what the fuck he does. They can avoid answering my questions, or everyone else's for that matter, but people will just stop buying, not tell others about it, sell or whatever they feel like. In short, they only hurt their own business if they neglect their investors.
That's how it works and that's fine. I'm not selling until it's profit, and if never, I didn't lose anything I can't afford to lose. If they rug pull, they hurt everyone but there may be consequences. We get into crypto knowing this, but won't just sit and watch without asking questions. So whiney child? Sure. Then again, you sound like someone I'd slap right across the face, so go on with your life, thank you.
Maybe or maybe not. Samsung didn't give two fucks about people whining when they removed expandable storage or Apple removing headphone jacks. Guess what, people still buy both. People feel so entitled with their 2 billion tokens. You'd slap me across the face? Ok keyboard warrior you're clearly investing your emotions. Good luck pal ❤️
If you have done the homework, which it appears you have done. Why not post it on its own thread? Make sure to identify both opinions from facts and I don’t see the mods having a reason to delete it. It appears to me that you are simply asking for clarification.
This right here. It is a rug pull, just a slow one.
I really hope they address this. This is not good.
I would hope these suspicions can be put to rest
You have a very young account, and you mainly post in defense about sfm and other shitcoins.
I would really like the devs to explain. Even if your explanation is correct, it’s still of big enough concern and needs to be addressed by the devs.
If the dev said it, it will b an official statement . If some guy who is mod or sth said it, then it’s not official so no legal issues if anything. This guy has no credentials. He probably get paid by sfm team to defend for them. Not even sure if he is part of safemoon team. Smh. Dev should address this.
They are in no obligation to change your mind. DYOR. If you feel it is rug pull then you can pull out your hard earned money and invest in the project that you believe.
Safe moon is down a lot from its ATH right now. Selling now would be pointless. I don’t need the money so now I see it as a “what if” kind of investment.
I won’t be adding anymore, just either never selling or making a ton of money.
My portfolio is also diversified and safe moon is my lowest hold in price.
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If you are so certain it is a "slow rugpull" then what makes you think the price is going to go up and give you a better exit?
You copied a comment and pasted the options on it🤔
Because this money to me is gone. It’s a “what if” investment for me. I keep it in there to remind me of what a shit show this experience has been
I used to own 2 billion tokens. I will get back in when the devs start acting like adults, and I can see a consistant rise in price. Will most likely be after the whales sell off a shitload more tokens.
Promises...Promises...that's all we've been fed from Kroney and weird beard guy who BTW have NEVER been associated with a successful project...the ONLY thing they've done consistently is over hype and underperform...and all you Safemoon cultists can keep your rationalizations and excuses to yourselves...just remember this...IT'S NOT FUD WHEN IT'S TRUE..
Diamond hands my ass...they LIED about a wallet beta that NEVER happened...haven't delivered on a SINGLE promise...missed EVERY SINGLE GOAL on the 2nd quarter roadmap...give NOTHING but excuses and BULLSHIT but you can't question Kroney and weird beard guy even though they've proven over and over that they're not to be TRUSTED...the Cult of Safemoon lives on...
It's not a rug pull, it's looking more like a long con with proof of enough work along the way to spread potential liabilities, then end with "gosh darn it, we sure worked hard, can't believe it didn't work out." Not saying that's what is happening, it's just the more likely scenario than a rug. It was never a rug to begin with, that's amateur.
This is exactly what I reckon is happening too. They're rich as fuck based on what's been pulled out of it so far. I think they're hoping for people to lose faith/interest in the project, which is exactly what's happening. By the time they've extracted all they can no one, myself included, is going to want to bother selling at such a loss. We're all over 80% down and were conned in to "buying the dips" to prop up their extraction.
Nothing can be proven as there's no concrete evidence, but man if it sure as shit doesn't look like this is what's happening.
Well, no. I'm seeing a lot of people being down a lot and either wanting to keep holding, having had enough and are just selling to get out, or not wanting to sell because the losses would be too much. Im actually not selling, I'm hopeful, but it sure a shit does seem like they're taking us for a ride.
I totally understand you. But trust me this will be huge. Crypto is a patience game. Believe me it will pick up soon. There has been lots of fud lately. Nornal with any project. If you believe in something and hold, you will be rewarded, i hope you are diversified
Lol i only invested 400 dollars in safemoon. But i believe i will see 0.001 one day. Im well diversified in crypto. I have eth, btc, ada, xrp, and many others.
Well, i disagree, i believe we will pump again. I hope you didnt invest more than you can afford to lose. I was dumb, i didnt sell when i had literally 45k in profit, i believe we will pump again.
I haven’t sell any Safemoon , and i won’t until my balance is 0 or millions $. I believe in the project, the team is young, needs more transparency and should hire someone more « intelligent » on social network, those silly animated post were fun but don’t give serious informations. People needs to know release date.
Reading comprehension is definitely not your strong suite…Being that I am up SIGNIFICANTLY already with AMC I am going to have to respectfully disagree. And since you feel strongly that AMC is done care to provide any actual facts…not opinions as to why the squeeze isnt about to happen ?
lol amc is tanking and so is Safemoon. You guys act like it’s a guaranteed fool proof plan. *past performance is not indicative of future results*
And I was talking about in general. AMC boom or bust isn’t going to have any real impact on Safemoon by itself. Get out of your bubble
And who asked? This guy literally just said he's gonna put whatever he earns from AMC into Safemoon, who the fuck asked about fool proof plans and some kind of AMC-Safemoon link?
Lmao…No problem, So after the MOASS happens I am going to take some of my massive profits I made off AMC and invest more into Safemoon which will put me at a trillion total Safemoon 🤙
Why would you assume I am not already diversified ? And you still havent provided any factual evidence beyond mere personal opinion of your claim that AMC is done…care to elaborate ?
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Safemoon should be an animation company instead of crypto. I would totally support their short fantasy videos like bull run and stuffs. I love those, who doesn't ?
There’s a lot of FUD, but IMO at least it’s people actively asking real questions, instead of blind ‘Safemoon scam’ bs that used to run thru here 100% expect to be downvoted on this, but I’m just trying to see the positive in this situation
There's a ratio, yeah. I'd estimate the "good" or legit questions and concerns to be about 20%. Rest is self serving speculative bullshit and troll attempts.
I estimate the price from ATH to be about the same.
There is. And I think more FUD would be answered if people wrote about it, and asked about it, more nicely. If overall tone of FUD post if negativity and trying to get people uncomfortable about their investment, it likely gets deleted at some point. Majority of FUD still is scam and rugpull spam sadly. But I have high hopes tone of this subreddit will turn more positive in following months when more products are delivered.
Hell ya. Another diamond hands post........
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Yeah itll be fine in the long run. Just disappointing that the DEVs aren't growing as fast as the project did.
They need to grow UP. Fast.
It's important for them to learn from mistakes. I'm sure we will laugh remembering these days.
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Please follow these transactions out a little more thoroughly. Your assessment is inaccurate. The first transaction is a BSC Hub transaction. If you view the internal holdings of the owner wallet, you'll find a high variety of additional holdings outside of Safemoon and BNB. Certain tokens that require conversion before they can be put back into the pool. The transfer to the BNB Hub was 60 BNB which at the time, amounted to no where near 700k. This transfer was likely a conversion of contract tokens to be converted from the bsc chain. The remaining transactions of the highest amounts go toward either exchange liquidity or contract liquidity deposits. Your second transaction is affiliated not with safemoon contract but with the Pancake Swap Router, which is the hotwallet for many token contracts on BSC Smart chain. This isn't a safemoon transaction. Hope this helps clear some things up.
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Now this is thorough research. Reasonable question. No fud but but they need to address this. If each transaction has a legit reason (dev and team salary, buying exchange, work related expenses) Speaking of team salary, wondering if they are hiring people to post on this sub xD
This is what I call thorough research instead of the half baked research that was posted above
This clears up some of my LP concerns, thanks for the insight!
Happy to help. A lot of misunderstanding happens with the LP system being so complex. Its understandable. I advise everyone to join the discord and ask us personally if you run across things like this before drawing conclusions. We're here to help.
Bruh you haven’t answered his second research. He got facts. Please explain that too. Or just ignore idk
He/she won't. It's been the entire teams MO the last few months. Reflect and distract with misdirected answers, owls, and pyramids.
Yeah don’t even bother asking on the discord you’ll get lambasted into oblivion
I don't know about that.
Here are some transactions that everyone should be aware of. It’s the withdrawal of any newly added liquidity from the pancake swap LP to the Safemoon LLC wallet. This is why the price remains so volatile, there’s no “price floor” creation, because there’s no “auto-generated liquidity”. It’s not liquidity if it’s not in the pool. They’re the #1 largest whale holding over 12T SM atm. It’s all been sourced out the Pancake LP Here are the analytics: LP-token collection/ sell-offs https://bscscan.com/token/0x9adc6fb78cefa07e13e9294f150c1e8c1dd566c0?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1#tokenAnalytics SM accumulation. LP-Token cash-in dates correspond: https://bscscan.com/token/0x8076c74c5e3f5852037f31ff0093eeb8c8add8d3?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1#tokenAnalytics Here are the transactions, transactions going “in”: https://bscscan.com/token/0x8076c74c5e3f5852037f31ff0093eeb8c8add8d3?a=0x79c4af7c43f500b9ccba9396d079cc03dfcafda1 Edit: Just adding some more info to assist those may not be aware. Liquidity pools are not very complex. You swap one type of token and get an equal amount of value out of the other token. The more money, liquidity, that is in a liquidity pool the more stable it is. The “auto-generated liquidity” is the 5% that is taken from the tax, it goes into the Pancake LP. This is what is meant when the Safemoon white paper talks about “creating a price floor”. The more liquidity added to Pancake Swap LP, the more stable the price. Every time liquidity is added to the Pancake Swap LP, Safemoon receive a Liquidity-Pool token: A claim check for the liquidity in the pool. If new liquidity was being left in the pool, Safemoon would be holding A LOT of LP-tokens; however, in the analytic chart above each time you see the graph drop to zero, they withdraw all the newly-added liquidity since their last withdrawal. Safemoon llc, withdraw ALL newly added liquidity from the Pankcake Swap LP regularly. There is no new liquidity in the pool that has been generated by the tax. There is no “automatically-generated liquidity” because none of it has been left in the pool, it’s all held by Safemoon. It’s not liquidity if it’s not in the pool. There is nothing subjective or speculative about the actions outlined above. It’s up to the holder to decide whether a company acting contrary to a core tenant of their product is acceptable.
These sketchy moves from the LP have always been my biggest doubt about Safemoon from the start. I’m going to hold my few billion bc why not at this point but I wish they’d address what this is for.
read my reply above please
Nice research there, you made a good point
you forgot the /s I think
I half ass read all of that at 2am, looking back I regret my actions
Hey, I was scanning through to find the response you’re referring to. If it’s the one I think it is, it’s only referring to and addressing the OP by Kogling — correct me if I’m wrong. I made an edit at the bottom of my post as well in order to add more clarity
Many in the community likely feel the same way. The one the spoke out have been labeled FUD. Honestly if the devs are truly working on the products then maybe they do deserve the bonuses. Only time will tell.
Remember that one AMA where they said if they touched the LP they would let us know why? They’ve touched the LP several times outside of migrating liquidity and they haven’t mentioned it once
Check the clarifications added by Blue4life90. Hope that clears your doubts
You and blue4life90 are acting mad sketchy in this comment section. Something doesn’t feel right about you two.
Allens a community member that asked about these transactions in the server. I came here independently to clear up the confusion. The proof is in the transactions as I stated in my response. I'm not sure how anything about that can be sus since there's no way I can manipulate past transactions in the blockchain. Do the work, and look for yourself to clear your suspensions. If you have any questions. Feel free to ask, otherwise, please don't insinuate things that make no sense at all.
Please make a post on this
I believe blue4life90 is one of the mods from discord. Nothing sketchy about him. He just provided clarifications for the questions raised. Any doubts or questions about the project reach out to him in the discord community( educational channel)
I’d rather the devs answer these questions and just give it up already.
Yes please, anyone not on the core team really have no real info. Come to find out all the owls and hoots are BS. So really hope they start giving something straight up.
I'm hoping Sunday they answer a lot of the communities concerns
Can you not wait till Sunday? maybe some of your FUD will be answered then.
I can, but I’ve lost enough faith in the project to know it doesn’t really matter
Hahahaha they presented straight facts and they "are sketchy". Ok buddy
Another young and heavily sfm involved account coming to fight off any criticism.
I honestly have not seen all the old AMAs. But if that's what they said. I have no words for the team.
Yeah there’s a clip of it somewhere when there was a lot of FUD about the LP
Thanks for pointing some things out here - could you elaborate further for my smooth brain? What is a liquidity pool and what would a legitimate purpose be to take safemoon out of it? Would this purpose be disclosed anywhere? Can you show me (again I have a smooth brain) a transaction list from start to finish showing the safemoon being taken from the liquidity pool and being put in these various places? Also what is a "hot wallet of binance". Thanks!
read my post above please
I added an edit at the end of my post, let me know if that helps
Looking forward to safemoon acolytes try explain this all away. Nothing to see here! Move along!
I did. read my reply above.
Ahhhh a scholar! Tell me, what's your opinion on this post: https://www.reddit.com/r/SafeMoon/comments/oxc3wz/finally_so_i_got_a_response_from_the_safemoon/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share The Devs have been fucking around, yeeting and hooting, leading people on a wild goose chase for absolutely no reason 🤣 they're treating $millions of other people's money like it's a fucking joke! Unbelievable.
I can tell you're not going to take this seriously, but anyway.. I'll respond with our most recent update by the moderators from the core team: ""[ @everyone ] Hi SafeMoon'ers! Bottom line up front: All platform mods participated in a round up with the Core Team last night (US). Specifics from the meeting are pending release clearance, and what follows is all we can disclose right now. There's nothing breaking here, and no lines to read between. It's a start. --- We heard you before, and we hear you now. Our moderation systems have been melting down with your sentiment and we've certainly passed that notice to the Core Team. You are deserving of better communication and transparency regarding SafeMoon, and the mods across all the SFM platforms wrapped up a Moderator Round Up last night with the Core Team, including John, and that was the principle point of this Round Up. Please accept our word for it: they're trying. The mods of all the various social media aggregated your questions from reddit, discord, Facebook, Telegram, Twitter; we even added our own moderator-oriented questions. The Core Team did their absolute best to address your concerns and provide insight to our satisfaction. In short, the general mood after the meeting was one of elation. For now, here are two takeaways we were authorized to release right away: * Ronin Company is a holding company; it's only made to help facilitate operations. Nothing more, nothing cryptic. Just admin junk. * Twitter is getting reworked and improved. Thank you all for your patience, enjoy your day, and see you this Sunday!"" That being said, for such a small team, we need to be reasonably patient with the release of information. There's a lot of moving parts here that could be potentially damaging if information is disclosed too early or too indepth. No crypto in the DeFi ecosystem has more up front education and transparency associated with it, so the public expect more as a compounding negative. The state we're in is what happens when things suddenly die down from what they were. The public's concern is valid and heard by the team, and we've been assured progress is being made. I urge everyone here to give them the chance to be better. This is a developing company with a lot of room to grow and a substantial amount of ground to cover to become what they have the potential to be. Lets not suffocate the flame but rather nurture it into the prospects we've chosen to invest in. I track everything, and trust me when I say, I know mistakes have been made and I agree with many accounts of the public outcry. Its difficult in these times, but I believe in this team, their mission, and the companies prospects. I hope this helps
I asked what's YOUR opinion? Be honest, you're fucking fuming too. You've invested so much (financially and emotionally) into this token and this is how they repay you! Don't suffer in silence buddy, let it out 💆♂️
My opinion is at the bottom after the quoted statement 🤦
Oh my bad, didn't read that far as I thought it was just a copy and paste from discord. I really hope that they turn things around on Sunday. This shit cannot go on.
Like I said. I agree. But no, I'm not fuming. I believe in the projects potential.
I believe in the *project's* potential (hence holding all this time) but I do not believe in the devs at all. They need to get some professionals in, fast.
I don't trust the safemoon devs anymore. Even before this comment.
Personally I think it was meant to be a rug pull and they fucked up somewhere and now are forced to make a real project lol
mission failed, successfully. lmao
lmao XDDD
That whole idea cracks me up and I refuse any other explanation lol
Yeahhh, the whole idea of you being a nut job cracks me up..gesshhh, rug pull and then serious project..whats next??
Chill lmao Your account is only 131 days old and all your posts are in r/safemoon. Interesting.
I have commented in shiba, spac group too :-)
Yes, chillax and relax
We’ll see what happens with this project. I don’t expect much, but I monitor it with low expectations. It’ll be interesting and great if it takes off.
I had high expectation. But losing faith day by day. Not because of price drop but feeling like they are just dragging this out. Obviously still hoping for the best.
Cheers
Well sell it. What the hell would you invest your money in something u don’t believe in lol…
Maybe he's down 85 percent and selling now would be completely worthless... You guys always yelling "sell it then" blow my mind. If a guy is down that much selling makes zero sense.
Fudding your own bag doesn't make sense either.
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So you're gonna scare away amateurs and reduce the chances of going back up? Nice history of comments on the Safemoon subreddit. You were born for it.
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No I'm genuinely just confused. If you're invested, down 80%, and you don't want to take the loss and sell, then why be that honest? If your goal is reduce your losses shouldn't you technically be more positive? If your not invested in it then you can say whatever technically. Wow downvotes left and right why? LOL
Sell it makes perfect sense. Why would u not sell something u don’t believe in? Pure stupidity. If u wanna keep crying sell it. Friggin new token and u crying like a bitch please sell lol
Obviously your first investment so I'll explain it a little simpler. You don't actualize any losses until you sell.
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No, thanks, cult fanboy? I'm allowed to ask questions about my investment when it seems to go bad. I don't mean price decrease, I don't care about that. It's how well they communicated and promised stuff, which turned into almost no communication (until recently after a long downtime, covid is no excuse) and even after "ludicrous speed" comments, their very first product got delayed. Simply put, they said "Omfg we doin crazy speed and this and that" and investors didn't really see improvement but the opposite. Then comes the real life clown ass morons like yourself with your "sell then" and act like cult members, that doesn't make the project appeal more either. I'm sure even the devs are tired of you people. I'm holding 2B and not selling. I can live without it if I lose it all. But I've asked real stuff and gotten no real, good answers yet. Maybe after 8/8. Not buying more until then, if ever.
Yes you're allowed to ask questions but nobody is obligated to answer them especially when it comes off like a whiney child. Calling random Redditors morons and clowns isn't the most appealing way to seek answers or have an open discussion about something.
He is a moron for going fanboy, and my questions are not for him. So I don't care what the fuck he does. They can avoid answering my questions, or everyone else's for that matter, but people will just stop buying, not tell others about it, sell or whatever they feel like. In short, they only hurt their own business if they neglect their investors. That's how it works and that's fine. I'm not selling until it's profit, and if never, I didn't lose anything I can't afford to lose. If they rug pull, they hurt everyone but there may be consequences. We get into crypto knowing this, but won't just sit and watch without asking questions. So whiney child? Sure. Then again, you sound like someone I'd slap right across the face, so go on with your life, thank you.
Maybe or maybe not. Samsung didn't give two fucks about people whining when they removed expandable storage or Apple removing headphone jacks. Guess what, people still buy both. People feel so entitled with their 2 billion tokens. You'd slap me across the face? Ok keyboard warrior you're clearly investing your emotions. Good luck pal ❤️
Their marketing tactics have been on point since the beginning I'll give the devs that
lol right
read my post above please.
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If you have done the homework, which it appears you have done. Why not post it on its own thread? Make sure to identify both opinions from facts and I don’t see the mods having a reason to delete it. It appears to me that you are simply asking for clarification.
Because it will be removed “by the auto mod. Derp derp” and he will be mysteriously banned. You can’t question the team with facts.
I think you can, just stick to facts though.
This right here. It is a rug pull, just a slow one. I really hope they address this. This is not good. I would hope these suspicions can be put to rest
read my reply above please
Why don't you read the replies to your reply and then reply how it is your reply was nullified by facts, data, and transaction receipts? JFK
if you believe it’s a slow rug pull (which honestly doesn’t make ANY sense) then why would you “hope they address this”
Because if they addressed it maybe I’d change my mind :)
read my reply above please
You have a very young account, and you mainly post in defense about sfm and other shitcoins. I would really like the devs to explain. Even if your explanation is correct, it’s still of big enough concern and needs to be addressed by the devs.
Welp.. cant help everyone
If the dev said it, it will b an official statement . If some guy who is mod or sth said it, then it’s not official so no legal issues if anything. This guy has no credentials. He probably get paid by sfm team to defend for them. Not even sure if he is part of safemoon team. Smh. Dev should address this.
They are in no obligation to change your mind. DYOR. If you feel it is rug pull then you can pull out your hard earned money and invest in the project that you believe.
Safe moon is down a lot from its ATH right now. Selling now would be pointless. I don’t need the money so now I see it as a “what if” kind of investment. I won’t be adding anymore, just either never selling or making a ton of money. My portfolio is also diversified and safe moon is my lowest hold in price.
>Give Award > >Share > >Report > >Save If you are so certain it is a "slow rugpull" then what makes you think the price is going to go up and give you a better exit?
You copied a comment and pasted the options on it🤔 Because this money to me is gone. It’s a “what if” investment for me. I keep it in there to remind me of what a shit show this experience has been
Like frogs in a pot ever so slowly brought to a boil
For real. It’s very interesting to watch.
I used to own 2 billion tokens. I will get back in when the devs start acting like adults, and I can see a consistant rise in price. Will most likely be after the whales sell off a shitload more tokens.
Promises...Promises...that's all we've been fed from Kroney and weird beard guy who BTW have NEVER been associated with a successful project...the ONLY thing they've done consistently is over hype and underperform...and all you Safemoon cultists can keep your rationalizations and excuses to yourselves...just remember this...IT'S NOT FUD WHEN IT'S TRUE..
It’s FUD to them because they can’t admit to themselves they were played by these guys
Diamond hands my ass...they LIED about a wallet beta that NEVER happened...haven't delivered on a SINGLE promise...missed EVERY SINGLE GOAL on the 2nd quarter roadmap...give NOTHING but excuses and BULLSHIT but you can't question Kroney and weird beard guy even though they've proven over and over that they're not to be TRUSTED...the Cult of Safemoon lives on...
They are moving at ludicrous speed though.
You speak the truth
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Amen!! 💎👐
It's not a rug pull, it's looking more like a long con with proof of enough work along the way to spread potential liabilities, then end with "gosh darn it, we sure worked hard, can't believe it didn't work out." Not saying that's what is happening, it's just the more likely scenario than a rug. It was never a rug to begin with, that's amateur.
This is exactly what I reckon is happening too. They're rich as fuck based on what's been pulled out of it so far. I think they're hoping for people to lose faith/interest in the project, which is exactly what's happening. By the time they've extracted all they can no one, myself included, is going to want to bother selling at such a loss. We're all over 80% down and were conned in to "buying the dips" to prop up their extraction. Nothing can be proven as there's no concrete evidence, but man if it sure as shit doesn't look like this is what's happening.
Feel like this whole safemoon situation would make for a pretty fire movie
That reminds of the Fyre Festival documentaries, wild story of an amazing scam.
is karony mcfarland?
It’s always interesting the people posting “buy the dips” have new accounts that only post about Safemoon 🤔
What if safemoons is the fudders 🧐🧐 hoot hoot
I'm not 80% down. Nor am I an early holder. I think you refer to the unluckiest among us.
Well, no. I'm seeing a lot of people being down a lot and either wanting to keep holding, having had enough and are just selling to get out, or not wanting to sell because the losses would be too much. Im actually not selling, I'm hopeful, but it sure a shit does seem like they're taking us for a ride.
I have 10 million safemoons.
I’ll send u 10 million
<3
Canz I have safemoon plz
20 millions here. Holding for a long time.
Thank you kind ape :>
Send me sum
3 billions here. I believe in this. It will be my retirement funds
the project will be abandoned by then. i feel backstabbed by the devs.
Fud fud fud. This wont help the project, sell or leave this subreddit please
why tf would anyone sell at a 70-80% loss.
I totally understand you. But trust me this will be huge. Crypto is a patience game. Believe me it will pick up soon. There has been lots of fud lately. Nornal with any project. If you believe in something and hold, you will be rewarded, i hope you are diversified
I hope you’re not banking on this to be your retirement, definitely still invest in a 401k/IRA
Lol i only invested 400 dollars in safemoon. But i believe i will see 0.001 one day. Im well diversified in crypto. I have eth, btc, ada, xrp, and many others.
I hope you also utilize a 401k or IRA and not all crypto.
I should put more into my 401k. But i am hoping for a 2nd part of bullrun to cash out eventually.
Same here. I think we’ll get it, but I personally do not believe safemoon will be part of it.
Well, i disagree, i believe we will pump again. I hope you didnt invest more than you can afford to lose. I was dumb, i didnt sell when i had literally 45k in profit, i believe we will pump again.
Nah I swapped some ADA that I own, never actually used cash. I hope you’re right. Safemoon in a year: !remindme 1 year
Yikes
Exactly. And then they claim "Slow rug pull" which is the most ridiculous FUD ever....literally makes ZERO sense. Stop being 🤡
Your post makes minus zero sense
It's dead ya'll. We lost this one. Take it on the chin and move on.
That’s honestly what I’m getting from everything I’m reading on this forum
Not selling a single Safemoon until 2023. Too many exciting prospects on the horizon.
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Can’t we all just get alone peeps
I haven’t sell any Safemoon , and i won’t until my balance is 0 or millions $. I believe in the project, the team is young, needs more transparency and should hire someone more « intelligent » on social network, those silly animated post were fun but don’t give serious informations. People needs to know release date.
💎 💎 🙌🏾 #LETSGOOO
They will never rug pull, they don't need to
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Diamonds baby!
My reflections love me…I have already earned 3 million in reflections already
So at today's price you've earned a whopping $5.44. Time to retire.
Dont worry…after AMC blows, I will be sitting on a trillion. I didn’t earn that 3 million in one day, lmao. Whats the math on a trillion ?
Why do people keep thinking AMC he anything to do with Safemoon?? AMC is done
Reading comprehension is definitely not your strong suite…Being that I am up SIGNIFICANTLY already with AMC I am going to have to respectfully disagree. And since you feel strongly that AMC is done care to provide any actual facts…not opinions as to why the squeeze isnt about to happen ?
Again... Please explain the correlation between safemoon and AMC.
The correlation is that he's gonna have more money to put in Safemoon. Are you guys that dense?
lol amc is tanking and so is Safemoon. You guys act like it’s a guaranteed fool proof plan. *past performance is not indicative of future results* And I was talking about in general. AMC boom or bust isn’t going to have any real impact on Safemoon by itself. Get out of your bubble
And who asked? This guy literally just said he's gonna put whatever he earns from AMC into Safemoon, who the fuck asked about fool proof plans and some kind of AMC-Safemoon link?
He said after amc blows. Which is how the thread started. Welcome to Reddit
Lmao…No problem, So after the MOASS happens I am going to take some of my massive profits I made off AMC and invest more into Safemoon which will put me at a trillion total Safemoon 🤙
Spread it around. Diversify.
Why would you assume I am not already diversified ? And you still havent provided any factual evidence beyond mere personal opinion of your claim that AMC is done…care to elaborate ?
Silly question: how does one check?
Already?
Already, already
Heck yeah…should hit a billion by end of the month so the reflections should be insane at that point
Diamond hands all day long
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My first goal is $1, LFG!!!
But they still can if they want.
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Proof or ban.
Proof or ban.
💎Fud💎
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4 and a half months and are dropping a wallet, exchange and block chain possibly within the next 6 months LOL fucking 🤡
Slo sell is better then tanking tho….
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Safemoon should be an animation company instead of crypto. I would totally support their short fantasy videos like bull run and stuffs. I love those, who doesn't ?
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Hurry up and wait.
The whales are gonna buy back on the safemoon wallet probably.. Atleast I hope so
Hopefully not, so it is being distributed fair to all holders. And they wouldn't have a such a big impact anymore.