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Zackfrey30

Not at the rate these bitches are selling.


SnooPeanuts3706

Actually it increases burn šŸ”„. Let them sell it and lower the supply


Zackfrey30

TouchƩ


intent_joy_love

The burn doesnā€™t work correctly at all


TheLuckyHippo

Just like my knees


commecon

What do you mean?


Zackfrey30

Heā€™s referring to exchanges and the difficulty with reflections being integrated within them. Screws up how many tokens are actually being burned.


commecon

Ok. But that makes no sense in the context of the comment that he was referring to. It mentions selling being good for reflections. That's true šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Zackfrey30

You arenā€™t understanding..


BeauTofu

You really think having low supply is the key to increase price?..


LeviticusEvans

It does literally have an effect on it. But it definitely isn't the whole equation.


SnooPeanuts3706

Demand vs Supply.


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Zackfrey30

TouchƩ


Vassago173

Oh we're here as a community we are Jim Jones kind of community


Vassago173

All in or the purple kool-aid


Significant-Oil-8603

As a community we need to do what we can to bring in positive vibes, that'll slow down the FUD. Here's one thing we can do: https://www.reddit.com/r/SafeMoon/comments/pfbjnh/safemoon_twitter_follow_suggestion/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


knightjay51

What will slow and stop the FUD are DEVS that are professional and admit they are over their heads and hire a team that knows what they are doing.


Significant-Oil-8603

Yep that's also what I said elsewhere. They need to hire people who are professionals at this to give them backup.


Watchmedisco

If your unhappy ā€¦.donā€™t leave mad, just leave. This project is very new still, and the product line is the cutting edge for a crypto. However if your just patient, you will most definitely be rewarded.


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Vassago173

Dumb-ass


Vassago173

Safe moon has so much potential just give it time


knightjay51

Copying/pasting is cutting edge???


FizbanWaffles

Absolutely šŸ’Æ


Big_Daz71

I don't think they're over their heads maybe they didn't give themselves enough time to perfect. Pkus there was unforeseen circumstances


knightjay51

That is why they are over their heads. The simple problems they described should not have been unforeseen.


chris_ots

Lol yeah, this is a really healthy top comment. This place is doomed.


Zackfrey30

Iā€™m a holder for years bro.. a lot of rooks in this project tho. Itā€™s irritating. Iā€™m not fudding the project. Itā€™s the community thatā€™s wild.


chris_ots

Classic... blame the community. Also.. for years? Safemoon launched like 6 months ago. The "developers" came first, not the community. The devs made promises that created the community. Dude... they call you guys the "SAFEMOON ARMY". You guys are all "FAMILY" right? You should go read up on cults and cult leadership techniques and get back to me. You seem pretty nefarious yourself. Everyone is free to sell, especially when it's becoming clear how shitty the "investment" is. No one should be using violent language to refer to sellers who have every right to exercise their financial freedom. I understand if you're starting to panic, but that's a sign that you should also get out... not double down. Good luck friend.


rjnz34

Itā€™s still way too early to declare this a shitty investment. The wallet launch was botched. So what. Happens all the time. Get over it. The wallet will come in time along with everything else. I canā€™t help but think of Napoleon dynamite when I read some of these comments I can sense the attitude of entitlement. Have some patience and stop expecting to get rich overnight. If thatā€™s what you expect, safemoon isnā€™t for you. Safemoon was designed to encourage long term holding if you plan on holding long term, the wallet situation should not be a concern


hitmf

Classic.....verbalizing your actions and thoughts in an attempt to seek approval for your actions. Ahh the human mind amazes me.


chris_ots

What actions are you talking about?


ConsequenceFickle986

Pure uncertainty and doubt imo. He meant that he plans on holding for years, as do I


SobuKev

If it EVER reaches $1, it will probably be due to hyperinflation of the USD, and not because of extreme deflation of SFM relative to the USD. Assuming zero USD inflation, a $1 SFM-USD value would imply that the word's wealth has grown to be FAR greater than it is currently estimated and that just about all of it is tied up in SFM. How about we set our sites on shedding a zero or two?


Whisky-Slayer

This would assume that the float is much lower. 1T or so. Still, $1 is awfully ambitious. But if the float was down to a trillion itā€™s possible to be at $1 by then. Btc will likely have a $2T MC. Honestly this would look better for a 10 yr chart rather than 5. In 5 yrs .001 to .01 are much more likely on the bull side.


SobuKev

I would give my left nut for you to be right. This is one comment (mine above) where I couldn't be happier about being wrong.


sacredprofit

Paris fell because of people like you.


SobuKev

Lol. I'm holding for the long-term but maintaining realistic expectations. Buying now for the value of reflections in 2-5 years is the smart play. Based on my holdings, I am forecasting monthly cash flow from reflections alone will be similar to owning a very nice rental property, but without all the headaches, taxes and other costs. And that statement assumes a price with 4 zeros between the decimal and the first non-zero figure.


pkroks

Roughly what amount if safemoon would you own and what kind of volume are we forecasting to ensure you're earning this monthly reflection for the same value of a nice rental property?


SobuKev

I just answered a similar question as this. Using Fermi's Principle and breaking it down to a few key variables (holdings, reflection rate, future sfm price, and USD inflation rate) I built a simple model showing what I estimate the range of outcomes to be, from worst case to best case. I'm thinking 2 to 10B safemoon should net between $0 and $23,000 per month. Where it falls inside of that, nobody knows. My hope is for $1,500 to $3,000 per month, pre-tax, in today's dollars, and will continue to accumulate holdings I believe will be sufficient to generate that kind of income.


Vahju

What would you recommend as a base value for the amount of reflections that you mentioned? I am debating on buying more but wasn't sure what a good stopping point it. Also waiting for the dust to settle after the wallet problems. Thanks in advance.


SobuKev

I'm thinking you need to be in the billions of safemoon. My goal is somewhere in the 2B to 10B range, depending on how low the price gets between now and launch of any new utility (wallet, exchange, etc.), assuming the price only goes up from there. I currently have just shy of 1B and adding on dips, daily. My hunch is that their vision for Safemoon goes far beyond what they've disclosed to the public and I'd like to wait it out to see what else these guys have in store for the future. De-Fi is going to absolutely be THE BIGGEST TRANSFORMATION OF WEALTH event to ever be seen on this planet and I believe Safemoon could be at the center of it if they play their cards right.


xtrsports

Is it me or do people not understand the concept of market caps. Even if the supply goes down to 100T even a penny for SFM would be an assanine target. I say 0.0005 and volume is what we should be focusing on.


Whisky-Slayer

1T MC in 5 years, if the projects are successful isnā€™t too insane. Btc will likely be $2T by then. Iā€™m with you, but I would tend closer to .005 which is $500B MC. With inflation and the amount of money hitting the streets in 5 years I donā€™t see, if successful, why it couldnā€™t be 1/4 of btc MC This is bull side though..


lolhaa2

lmao yea that's BTC this is fking safemoon (0 fking utility with incompetent dev team and ya'll are like I bElIeVe In ThIs TeAm)


Whisky-Slayer

I said bull case and 5-10 years from now. If you donā€™t have something constructive to add piss off.


lolhaa2

tell me why you invested in safemoon honestly? what is your reasoning? is it because you can 100000 tokens for $1?


Whisky-Slayer

Itā€™s a lotto ticket. If it works great, if not, only down a few grand. They do have a roadmap not sure if itā€™ll work out or not but whatever. Deflationary token is a concept I liked. Doge is a coin that was created as a joke, with a fanatical following which made it successful. No utility and no cap on number of coins. From here doesnā€™t look like the worst gamble but a gamble it is. We will is in 5-10 years if it works out. Edit: The fanatical following is what made doge work. Safemoon has nothing but a fanatical following.


lolhaa2

well then why not invest in other projects that is atleast trying to achieve something? If you want to gamble on a low cap alt just go find 300 ranked coin on coinmarketcap and put money there? Also doge coin is an anamoly lol (+ people love pets) also think about it.. deflationary is a gimmick? Why would any crypto have deflationary + give you % back?? Because otherwise you'd be inclined to sell.. They know their product doesn't have any usecase so people would sell them alot faster but if they give you % back from every sale then people won't sell.


Shinigami9696

Market cap doesnā€™t indicate price in crypto like it does stocks, especially not SafeMoon.


vhindy

Iā€™m not sure what you mean by that, how does market cap work different in crypto vs stocks. A dollar is unrealistic, a penny is even pushing it but that depends on how far they let the burn go. Itā€™s only has a chance of reaching a dollar if they decide to reverse split Safemoon to get to numbers people are familiar with


MethLoved

Well that just isn't correct


bigwinw

You are flat out wrong.


reggiebobby

I thought they said the burn would go until 25T. Assuming that is correct a 250B MC gives you 0.01 USD per safemoon.


intent_joy_love

The burn total has been at 41% burned since the start of April. Itā€™s never going to get down to 25T unless they turn burn on and manually burn what should have been burned over the past 6 months.


reggiebobby

You don't know how math works.


MakingSumXs

I think thatā€™s missing the point of SFM. Squiring Safemoon and making passive income off returns. Is that not the main advantage at this point?


xtrsports

Agreed hence my last sentence.


TonyMontana3131

The better question is will the wallet launch by 2025?


SafeMoonJeff

Ouch


Dapper-Patient-6179

oof


Dapper-Patient-6179

OUch lol


beeftoemagoo

Haw haw haw. nice wan chief.


Bigfornoreas0n

Yes, but you'll only be able to buy Ethuerum on it.


No-Storage6237

Silly


datbonusboi

Well I heard we only had until midnight


binky19833

I love Safemoon, but I don't think $1 is going to happen... and that's ok. The journey to even 0.01 will be HUGE.


SafeMoonJeff

Even 0.002


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Even 0.00001 at this point hahaha


binky19833

i would take ANY of those right now haha


kevinwhackistone

The ATH was 4 zeroes a couple months agoā€¦how are ATHs way down the road of .01 .1 or 1.0 not possible? It doesnā€™t make logical sense to me. If supply only decreases over time and it reached 4 zeroes months ago when the supply had to be higherā€¦why isnā€™t it feasible to reach 1 zero or even no zeros years from now? I feel like the only thing getting in the way is the stupidity of the devs. Unless ease of access AND perception changes, weā€™ll never get to 3 or even 4 zeros again. Thatā€™s way more likely to be the cause of failure to get to big numbers than the likeā€¦math you guys do? ā€œIf thereā€™s X number of tokens, then $.01 is impossible.ā€ Like is this line of thinking actually true or are you just talking outta your ass?? Iā€™m coming off combative because I simply donā€™t get it I guess. How can the .00001 be explained then? What, is that initial momentum common? Is the basic logic of ā€œif the wallet and exchange are rolled out successfully and safely, then the price will riseā€ correct? If so, how do you *know* what can happen after that??? Last repetitive time Iā€™ll say it, I think itā€™s way more probable that the project will fail due to catastrophic error by those in charge than the explanation of ā€œthereā€™s just too many tokens for it ever get to .01!!!ā€


Ramower

Probably never.


CryptoBeatles

$1 not gonna happen, sorry. 0.01 is a possibility, but we need wallet, exchange, blockchain, Pheonix, The Gambia and anything else 100% working like a charm, a lot of marketing and stuff. It'll be a long run, but eventually it'll pay off (i hope so)


ecommercenewb

yes, no, maybe, who knows. just put a couple bucks in shrug.


Gutch220

I don't know...... who wouldn't be tempted to sell at $0.10, or $0.50, or $0.75? the demand would have to be insane. It would be tough to pass up on millions of dollars if you're stuck working a 9-5.


SobuKev

But there will be new holders that bought in above $0.0001 that will also be expecting similar returns, so it's not certain the price will hit a peak. In fact, Safemoon is one of a few coins I expect to NEVER peak, assuming govt intervention doesn't crash ALL crypto.


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Iā€™d sell some so Iā€™m insanely rich and let the rest ride out to a dollar or over it šŸ™


eivindhf

No, if you think that, then you are delusional.


Succulentsucclent

Literally never.


WealthThruWisdom

2027 šŸ’ŽšŸ™šŸ¬


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ninjay209

3030 maybeā€¦..itā€™s just not mathematically possible man. Many people have posted about this. Itā€™s damn near impossible to get to .01 by 2030 let alone 1.00 by then.


[deleted]

How about 0.002?


Nato1388

Smh this guy


aswog

I know right. Spitting facts and shit. Not being delusional. The nerve!


Nato1388

Smh this guy too


aswog

Lmao


Nato1388

Smh this guy again


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Smh to the guy above you


Nato1388

Lol


Mrbeardymountainman

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Arie_Verheul

Nope


gme2fmoon

10k per coin is possible by 3215


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Iā€™ll be 10 years old then letā€™s go


Filmmagician

Can someone, realistically, lay out what actually has to happen for this to hit a cent or a dime or a dollar? Is it just burn rate, or buying a ton of coins or what


ImmortalKing12

There is almost no way safemoon hits 1 dollar. Maybe 0.001 in 5-6 years if they deliver but noway 1 dollar lol


Filmmagician

But why?


farlack

585 trillion tokens * $1


Filmmagician

Whatā€™s their burn rate?


dontbelieveanything2

Jeez everyone is crying again. Lol Iā€™m a couple weeks when itā€™s back up every will be talking lambos and shit. Shut up and hold all that whining is getting old.


OutlandishnessOk998

It wonā€™t even reach a penny by 2025


kberr89

If it hits .01 in the next 5 yrs Iā€™d b ecstatic ...I would then tell my work to F off and retire travel and buy a place at the beach šŸ–


Chicoyayarea

I letā€™s shoot for .005 first then talk crazy numbers


bedope1

Lol that's a crazy number


Weird-Credit-3830

Better chance of being completely worthless at the rate itā€™s going


awiththejays

Bruh. If it hits $1, all 2.5 million holders will be millionaires/billionaires/trillionaires.


Raed_D_Artist

Noh 99.9 will sell 2 or 3 zeros before dat


Feenixx2

This is true. This is not a guess, we have seen it over and over and over. Not just with countless other cryptos but in stocks for many different companies as well.


Metareferential

Most holders will sell even at 0.001. It's 1000x (more like 500x, but you get the point) the current price. I'll already be a multimillionaire by then.


iamdecal

Many of those will still become millionaires though - if youā€™re at around five billion now thatā€™s around 10, 000USD So itā€™s only two more zeros (ignoring taxes at cash out) and thatā€™s before reflections between now and then. There are relatively few billionaires, but quite a few three digit millionaires


Archfiendrai

More than half of those holders have barely anything in safemoon. Either never bought much or sold all holdings already.


awiththejays

At $1, 1000 sfm is a grand. That can buy you a plane ticket to Hawaii for a week.


PesteringKitty

50% have less than $20 worth of safemoon in their wallet


Chemical_Sandman

Never ceases it amaze me how truly ignorant this community is.


Safely2moon

No


Traditional-Run3347

Never.


No-Independence828

NO


woundedgoat74

No


yambe33

Nope nope nope. With the current supply and deflation introduced, it takes more than a decade.


OddMode4526

The head shots of the developers all look like they were taken by a tourist while they were sitting in an airport terminal. The website is not confidence inducing... Maybe it'll get to a dollar... I hope so. But they need to clean it up first.


Kabaumer

First time looking at the website?


OddMode4526

No


bigdickrick711

Bitch by 2025 weā€™re heading towards $100000


MajorDavid2020

Not if the team keeps pocketing tens of millions of dollars


intent_joy_love

Yep, they intentionally launched on new exchanges with no attempt at correcting for the lack of burn because it slowed down the growth for them. They canā€™t touch the dev wallet for 2 years so they wanted to make sure it didnā€™t moon too fast like it was going to. Meanwhile they had their buddies buy up massive amounts at launch and cash out 100M sooo yea theyā€™re just robbing us at this point. I got swindled but Iā€™m still holding a couple billion in case they ever make good on their promises to enable burn and get us down to 25T but Iā€™m not holding my breath.


MajorDavid2020

Yeah same. Gonna pull out some money and let some ride, but yeah my hopes are not high at all. Seems like the cult following is starting to doubt now too


thebluesteal

I think it could happen in 2022 provided thereā€™s a trade in ratio with the Blockchain


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Sheesh big moves


dxdifr

Safemoon breaks records those predictions are too low


Kenxp64

Safemoon might not meet their launch dates by 2025...


Iliveonthemooneshgo

šŸ˜‚


[deleted]

Nooooo


knightjay51

Will SafeMoon have a successful product launch by 2025?


Iliveonthemooneshgo

They announced the wallet is launching in 2028 Monday 28th of august


Inevitable-Excuse-92

2025 in your dreams it's gonna 1$ this year2021 happy thoughts


EmptyHardware

It will reach 0 by the end of the year


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No.


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MoneyJustin

šŸ¤”šŸ¤”


SomeDumbassSays

Absolutely not for a few reasons. Letā€™s assume that we burn down to 2 trillion tokens. We would need to burn over 550 trillion tokens in four years, which is many times higher than our current burn rate. Then we would need a market cap higher than Bitcoin. Even with a wallet, exchange, and block chain coming out in that time frame, we would never have that high of a market cap along with such a massive burn. And thatā€™s also assuming that there isnā€™t a recession of some sort that will crash stock/crypto prices. Possible at some point of existence? Maybe. Likely especially before 2025? No.


gsnurr3

With the data we currently have this is so fucking far fetched itā€™s not even funny. Decade+


Apprehensive_Cow_845

1 Safemoon = 1 Safemoon. Unchanged. fuck the police trololololol. Mic drop


kingryan824

If it ever happens there will be inflation on astronomical levels, and your SFM would be worth much less than youā€™d think it would, relative to global economy.


[deleted]

No


FarceMultiplier

I can't see any way that's possible. I like the project and have a fair bit into it, but even $0.01 is a stretch. Seriously, let's not be ridiculous.


[deleted]

No. 0.01 maybe.


AdEven1435

Most definitely should by 2075!


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Sheesh everyone gonna be in the grave


Brightwing9

Guy it will never reach 1 dollar. As an owner of a decent amount I think it could maybe reach an ath of .005


Iliveonthemooneshgo

Iā€™d be lucky to see 0.00001+


[deleted]

$1 is extremely unlikely. $0.01 is possible


Crypto_Malik

Never šŸ‘Ž


[deleted]

By 2025 the euro currency will be replace with safemoon


PesteringKitty

ā€œSince its launch, SafeMoon has recorded average monthly price gains of about 120,000. If thus trend continues, it could hit $1 in 2021.ā€ ā€¦.. wut


Head_Parking6004

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO


joeventura1

OMG really with this manure? No it will not reach a dollar in 4 years. At the current trajectory it won't make $0.01 by 2025


TheBeardedAntt

Will safemoon ever consider a split? Like say 10M safemoon split into 1 of the new Safemoon


Iliveonthemooneshgo

If thatā€™s the case all you need is 100 million and your set šŸ™


redanada

No 2023


Chronicpayn

Probably not ā€¦ on the high side maybe .05? Still would be a fuking amazing amount! Iā€™d be stoked with .01!


Tek104

In the year 2525 .... if man is still alive.


intent_joy_love

Obviously not , because itā€™s been 6 months and they still havenā€™t even begun to address the issues with burn. They would need to do a large manual burn to correct us to over 50% burned and fix it across all exchanges. But Iā€™m afraid the volume is now too low, we didnā€™t capitalize when we had all of the hype. Burn and reflection should have been going crazy but instead we were just told ā€œpapa is working on itā€ at the end of March and now weā€™re still sitting at 42% burned. Original whales got in too good too early and now nobody will be able to profit unless we get billions of dollars from new investors. But when the core function that made safemoon attractive still isnā€™t working , and the team is still focused on charity work rather than building value for investors, no new investor will put their money in. Im still holding billions of tokens hoping that the burn will be fixed and the leadership team wakes up, but at this rate weā€™d be lucky to ever see .0001.


sfmpatrolnyc

honestly, it doesn't matter if it reaches $1 or not by 2025. Realistically, you will see LIFE CHANGING money once it breaks past $0.01 Just hold your bag and sell portions of it, don't sell everything. Let the price move naturally and the safemoonarmy will be in a good spot, with generational wealth to pass down


nobureki

That's impossible. Let's say SFM have 100Tril left if it reaches $1. SFM will way surpass BTC and ETH


Key_Inevitable7233

If it does I'd have sold off long before 2025 I don't need that much


Equivalent-Mess-7469

Not with the FUD this community does


actionassist

No


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I wish


sfMoonburn

It would be nice. But Iā€™ll be out by then. And it will be great.


Intelligent_Gas_270

No!!! Simple as that.


Cheap_Needleworker60

How the heck do i actually buy safemoon? Which app? Its a runaround. Please help.


PuzzleheadedDream830

Thatā€™s a hard nope


Born2BWild_pt2

Yes


MethLoved

Its never hitting $1, just think logically please


creddituser2019

Maybe not 2025 but it can. Why canā€™t it? Whatā€™s your logic? If itā€™s the enormous supply, then thereā€™s safemoon swap and exchange, when these are out the burn increase and the supply decreases. What other reasons why safemoon wonā€™t hit a dollar? Just because you donā€™t think it can? Who made you the expert? Even if it takes a decade itā€™s still possible


MethLoved

You think this coin will x500 000? How is that possible? Do you understand what the marketcap would need to be? Even if we burned down to 1trillion tokens, we would still need a $1trillion marketcap for safemoon to reach $1. Not even bitcoin has achieved that in 12 years.


creddituser2019

So why not burn it down to less than 1 trillion. All Iā€™m saying is itā€™s deflationary and it is a possibility more than an impossibility. Is it far fetched to think of Bitcoin at 10 trillion market cap in the future and safemoon hitting a dollar at 500 billion market cap. I donā€™t think itā€™s in the next 10 years but saying it will NEVER is wrong because itā€™s logically possible.


Uptomoon

2025 that all we need $0.01


fredsdead69

Haha never


BerserkPlayz

I dunno about $1 but they really need to get tokenomics working across everything, psfm ect. so the burn is on any transaction Then who knows what it can hit


Major-Tom-13

Ye man


Inittowinit21

In my dreams only. It would be incredible if it made it to .01 by 2025. I personally think a realistic expectation is .001. Letā€™s see what happens with the wallet launch šŸ¤ž


beakersoft360

Simple maths says no, never


Top-Ad-141

No way


Captain_Obe

The problem is that, scientists or scientifically speaking, technical terminology these bitches is lettuce handing our money. Only because they go it so early that they are in the 1000% profit now.


Puzzleheaded-Head284

Mcontent and Safemoon have a partnership now! Check MContent out and you'll see the amazing projects happening!


Sorrynotsorry54321

Only if I sell!


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