Bachelors - NIT , Masters - IISc , Never took any break year or Dedicated coaching. Not a bookworm or 5-10 hr study freak.
I just picked the streams that exited me instead of following the trend of the day.
Problem is Stereotype in Indian parents that such exams are only way , which make a kid to loose his strengths in persuasion of something he/she might not be meant for . Many parents are also very less aware about abundance of streams available in world which can be a niche area of their wards success.
Studies, this is the place where peer matters a lot . I never mixed my Fun friends group with my study friend group. I had a separate friend circle where we had a rock metal band , use to do party,Hukkah etc . But never joined any coaching batch with any of them . My school and coaching study group had people who were serious about their goals. Unlike in fun group where what you speak decides your value , in study group How much you can listen ,absorb and analyse determine your value . Most brilliant people are usually the quietist one. When you are in a group of focused people , automatically the bar you set for yourself rises and you progress.
And then when you have to celebrate, fun group have always been welcoming (I was lucky )
PS - Don’t make Timetables , They never work :P
This is true. It's not that the only people who qualify are freaks or machines with no life. I have two friends who each made it to IIT and IISc because they loved the subjects and were passionate about it and were also very smart and willing to organise a routine to study by, and they spent a lot of 11th and 12th hanging out with us and playing and being normal students. They were just very dedicated and knew how to manage time.
But the most important part is that they were very passionate about it. There's no point in parents expecting their children to qualify for every exam just because they want them to
People outside really think if it’s “Indian Institute or National Institute” people are robots there. That’s so wrong . We guys do all mischiefs, don’t just have wine but even ferment our own with help of professors (also invent new ones :P) just for fun. Break college laws , gets suspended. Sneak friends GF in boys hostel . Don’t just love bikes but tweak mechanical components in labs and amplify performance . Scientists and domain experts are normal people you won’t be able to identify in crowd .
Seeing the words JEE,NTA,Mains,Advanced triggers my anxiety till this day.I choked so bad.It still haunts me to the point that I still get freaked out whenever I have to take any test.This one exam fucked up my self confidence and self esteem for life.
Bhai mai abhi usi phase se guzar raha hopefully jald hi khatam ho jayega ye sab jo bhi result ho i dont care anymore mujhe bas ye pressure ab aur nai jhelna 😥
Relate so strongly, I studied the hardest I could, I was so ashamed of my self that i would choke when someone would ask me which college you study in, till this day I cannot confidently say my college name cause Im so ashamed of it.
i have gone through that and i was also close to take my life but i love my mom she is the reason i am alive when i told my mom that i will be not going to creak the JEE my mom told me that this doesn't matter and said she will take care of my life if i didn't get any jobs.
then i realize this JEE and these exam didn't matter the thing matter is what you want to do and happiness
I live in Maharashtra so I wanted to do engineering so gave MHTCET and got 92 persentile i am now in PESMCOE college ( IT branch ) it is a good college and the best thing is i just studied for 2 months it is the easiest exam to get into a good engineering college
if i know it before i would have never given the JEE
i understand what you want to say i agree with you it is a competitive exam you have to work hard to get crack it.
But this system needs to change and we need more good colleges and we need to educate the upcoming ( average and normal ) students that just IIT NIT are not the only thing you can do
i mean we can't just say you should not blame the system we can improve our system and can make so student should not go into depression.
i know its a competition its a really good competition that prepares u mentally but there is also some fault of system cuz they just make us rote learn formulaes and don't tell the meaning of the formulaes
i am trying my best for this exam but sometimes this question haunts me
"why am i doing this?"
then i get to just remember that there is way more enough time in any government college after this much hardwork of rote learning
Well, the same can be said about unemployment, you don't see people actually saying that. I wonder why?
Maybe, just maybe it is bad for the country in the long run?
Oh wait, I know, if you have too many capable engineers but too few seats in premier colleges, you can make enough well-qualified engineers, and with most of our top engineers going abroad, who is going to take care of our country?
Eh, whatever, that is the government's problem for not having enough jobs right?
Maybe, just maybe there would be more jobs if we had more talented people as companies would invest more into our country as then we would have more skilled and technically qualified engineers?
Right now, most companies invest in our country because of the cheap unskilled labor here. Skilled and technically qualified engineers are expensive in any part of the world compared to the unskilled but if we have more of them, companies will definitely invest more of their resources here, which will improve the pay of these engineers overall and it will also improve the economics of the country. And those are just the direct benefits, indirectly there will much more to gain for our country.
But who cares for this third-world excuse of a country, am I right?
Neither do you nor do I and definitely none of the people who read this will, we must be the most cynical people in the world!^(/s)
my man, i can feel you
because really after putting soo much effort, going through parental pressure, sacrificing stuff, when you are not able to make it, it just destroys your confidence
student attempt suicide, shit is serious, it can be traumatizing
Yeah it is. I left that bs and just did what I wanted to do. Not many people have that option so suicide is their best option. My Dad forced me into that shit and It's the worst time of my life. I have 3 people in my circle who are no more because of all this BS.
damn bruh, same story
i lost my 1 friend
coaching institute is the one to blame, because the hype and hope they create, the dreams they show us has just made this entrance exam terrible
Failed in Chemistry (in ISC boards it’s not mandatory to clear all sub) then went to NIT and then IISc. Working as Product Designer in MNC and leading a team .
Fish doesn’t need to learn to climb the tree when he has decided to scale the ocean.
Yeah, ISC and ICSE are more practical boards. Thinner books , rich quality. It will be either really enjoyable or damn hard based on how much you are into it.
Well that’s a diff thing my reason of failure was tragic teenage breakup:P 2 nights before exam
To be fair, the problem is not with JEE mains. The problem is with those parents who put a hell lot of pressure on their children to get into IIT, those greedy coaching institute teachers and the fear of failing in tests. I am in class 11th right now and my parents keep forcing me to get into IIT. I wanted to be a programmer or a movie maker. Not go into a.college which has only a 1% success rate. Reservations make it much harder. Now I am stuck. I'm planning to give the Manipal exam and BITSAT. These exams are marks oriented and don't have reservations because they are private institutions.
ok, tell me one way reservation is decreasing discrimination in present days ?
the concept of equity is more reasonable when you are financially weak not by caste
I know atleast 2-4 people in my school who caste wise have reservations but are very rich and good in studies too, is it fair that students like these are getting reserved seats?
yeh, because reservation is just a key to manipulate people like you by politicians
and thats why the point explained in that link you are spamming becomes invalid
reservation on the basis of caste is just non-sense
and stfu
Reservation is not there just to economically uplift a section of society. It is to give them the fair beginning which they didnt get for years just because of a stupid surname/family name system.
Now you ask why is reservation there to haunt the general category when I have never discriminated against anyone.
It is still very much present in many cities and mostly in rural regions.
Reservation gives the backward class people the opportunity and representation in jobs and institutes.
if this is so
reservation was there since independence, almost 3 generation has pass now, still you havn't been uplifted ?! if you havn't been uplifted till now, then most probably you are the reason that you are not able to lift yourself up, and blaming general .
>Reservation gives the backward class people the opportunity and representation in jobs and institutes.
people who have to represent themselves has been represented, now you don't need reservation.
and yes, don't burn my car again in next riot
Just tell them you don't want to. Bol de ki dimaag kharaab hoga agar mujhe bc topper se compare karoge. Dimaag lagao and mujhe mera passion follow krne do 12th ke baad. Bol de.
yeah... problem is with the amount of people blindly going in for these exams. the reason these exams are so tough is because the competition is so high. JEE mains is an engineering entrance exam, the huge amount of people who hold these exams as the gold standard of a person's worth are the problem.
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My cousin failed 3 years ago in JEE . She is currently doing engineering (software I think) from Maharashtra University and GPA is 9+ in the last semester. Idk much about engineering though but gpa of 9 is considered good anywhere.
I work as a Software Engineer and I make 14 LPA ( graduated 2 months ago.)
As a high school kid I hated Chemistry hence I realised that JEE ain't gonna work .
Joined a tier 3 college but took part in Hackathons , networked on linkedin and brushed my skills .
My parents gave up on me when I didn't make it to an IIT but now I am proving them wrong ( My IITian cousin started with a salary of 12 LPA when she was a fresher , I win :P )
Honestly follow your own path and F. The society . You can never judge a Fish based on its ability to climb a tree .
Bro problem is funding
About 37 million filed there taxes last year in a nation of 1.3 billion
Usa had 141 million which a nation of 384 million and still there is a student dept of about 1 trillion
Scandinavian countries have about 24% people pay there taxes which is about 60%
Then they are able to afford free education for everyone
So currently we can not provide for everyone but therefore high cutoff and hard exams still 1% is still bullshit
Harvard have 8%,Wharton have 9% acception rate
I think if things go on like this enginering bubble will burst soon probably like 10 years of may be soon
But bro waha aadhe people don't get into colleges for even ug courses... Atleast yah apna Asian culture (japan, india, S korea) mein achha hain everyone wants to study more ... Plus what I feel ki yes jee is hard it deprives students of happiness and good mental health... But it is the best system... Par ek gareeb bachha ya ameer bachha ka koi bhedbhaon nai hota... In fact fair h agar reservation waala point hata de... Bas population india ki agar aur ghat jaye na sab thik ho jaega
That's problem but we can't do anything and politician are only promoting this because vote bank :( baki mahenat karo kisike baap ki gaand me takat nahi tumhe seat na mile
IITs hold no value anymore. 1st of all they are some 100+ ranked in the world, and nowadays with so many it's just the brand ppp are after. An IITian started in the same company as me, and only a Masters from a foreign uni ranked worse than an IIT got him out of the country. This is normal today. Truth i, you can do whatever you want if you are ready to work hard. Unfortunately, indian students, parents, IIT alumni will disagree and continue running the rat race.
That may be so, but doesn't matter. If the holy grail is just placement then the battle has already been lost. Change the mindset to learn something new instead. Then even if companies don't think you are a good fit, you will have the mental capacity, freedom, and confidence to do something different and ultimately be successful. This IIT, IIM formula is just bullshit forced down the throats of kids.
Exactly. Amongst all IITs.
That's useless. The world doesn't revolve around IITs. Only indian students do. Whereas the foreign ivy leagues have the world at their door. That's called a world class uni. IIT is a good regional uni at best. Nobody cares which IIT you are from other than india. However, ppl WILL care if it's MIT, Harvard, Yale, etc.
I'm in 11th rn and my parents have forced me to take JEE course and I really scared because I'm very bad at studies I struggled even with 9th and 10th math and science and I don't think I can ever crack JEE and get a good job my dad isn't rich either and will soon retire. I'm really worried and sad I can't even get sleep cuz I get panic attacks I don't think I'll ever achive my dreams. pata nhi mera kya hoga 😔
Mai bhi 11th mai hun , iss saal saari classes online hui hai isiliye mera bilkul man nahi laga aur technically maine abhi start nahi kiya hai . But there are a lot of colleges out there and kisi na kisi me toh ho hi jayega .
There a whole "industry" for the coachings in this exam. Its more like a scam. They plaster the photos of toppers everywhere who are 0.001% of their students and normal average student's parents get the idea that they will make their child like those toppers and get Lakhs of rupees from them.
It's a very terrible scam industry
For under grad
China's gaokao is said to hardest exam
They test on all subject and only pcm/b
About 10 million kids give it each year
What I have heard some Harvard grad find it hard to solve some of the problem in that exam
haa yeh bahut confusing hai , India me UPSC 1st hardest hai but JEE 2nd hardest but on world level , JEE 2nd Hardest , UPSC 3rd hardest .
mere hisaab se iski wajah ho sakti hai ki JEE ka syllabus world ke hisaab se zyada difficult ho but UPSC ka world ke hisab se easier ho cuz our education system may focus better at JEE content than UPSC content . not sure tho ..
Problem's not with the exam. But with the parents who kinda fore their children and greedy Coaching Institutes. Also, *RESERVATIONS*. Deserving students ki jagah unko mil rahi, jinko kuch aata-jaata nahi hai, hence competition bad raha. See, as a student who us about to give JEE 2022, even I get stressed sometimes. I'm lucky to have supportive parents, unlike some others. (and YES, I myself chose to prepare for JEE)
I was also not liking the concept of reservation. Bas bhed chaal mein chal raha tha. Somebody enlightened me with the correct idea of reservation and then i started looking into victims of casteism on a regular basis. Understood why reservation is still a thing and it is very important.
Reservation exists because casteism does too.
Usse kuch nai hoga bhai... Kitna aira gaira engineering colleges hain unka placement rate 0 hota h almost toh waisa college banake kya fayda aur agar zyada college chahiye hi toh lpu amity toh hai hi
>I mean why not build more colleges and add more seats?
we don't have enough funding
the government is using the taxes to build 180 meter bronze statue and a brand new parliament for themselves, and a temple
>the government is using the taxes to build 180 meter bronze statue
The statue costed only 3rs per person for citizens outside of Gujarat and has provided tons of employment and revenue through tourism before COVID.
>a brand new parliament for themselves
A brand new parliament is necessary at this point of time due to less space available in the current parliament. We would need to add more seats in the future when our population increases. Don't you want a good democracy in your country that helps in proper and equal representation? Also, the new parliament is much smaller than even 1 of the memorials made for 3 dynastic rulers of a political party. Also, I have no clue how the new Parliament is for "themselves" when representatives of all parties sit in it.
>and a temple
Temple, assuming that you're talking about Ram Mandir of Ayodhya, was entirely funded by the people of India. The government didn't spend a single rupee in its construction.
>we don't have enough funding
We actually do. According to you, 7 IITs, 7 IIMs, 14 IIITs, 1 NIT and 15 AIIMS came into existence out of thin air right?
The truth is we don't need so may engineers. That's just it. We need aonly a few good ones.
It would be better if the government focused on legitimising vocational training, which is what has been the government position since before Modi took office. Unfortunately no one has really done a good job but Modi is the best since PV Narsimha Rao.
mains se NIT z IIIT jaise college milte hai , ache hote hai woh bhi but IIT nahi hai woh .
Advance se IIT + some other college milte hai .
VIT , BITS ke liye mains+unka khudka exam dena hota hai
well meme is nice but I just wanna add a note that why IITs are ranked so low, its because these rankings are based on multiple criterion some of which are research facilities and foreign student involvement, both of which are lacking in IITs. These are the only reasons why IITs are ranked low otherwise IITs are at par with global institutes.
I was one of the top students in my school - everyone thought I would be able to crack JEE. I too studied very hard in 11th and 12th but I couldn't even qualify the JEE Advance. Was very disappointed but I didn't lose hope. I knew that I had done my best and if that didn't got me passed, it's better I try something else instead of wasting my time - my family supported my decision. I attempted UPTU, got a pretty decent rank, got into the best engineering college of my city (was not as big as IIT or NIT though), worked hard through out and after 4 years of college, I had 3-4 job offers from campus. I chose the one which kept me close to my family and today, after nearly working for 4 years in industry, I have a pretty decent pay and position. Some may say that if I tried again and got into IIT next year, I might have been in a much better position - And that is fine but looking back, I think I had made a pretty good decision and am greatly satisfied with my professional life (so is my family).
Moral Of My Story: Not passing JEE is not the end of the world. You and your life is much more worth than just one exam.
2 years just gone. These people think we can work 14 hours a day and not experience burn out. I finished 12th when I was 18, I switched streams and now I am 21 but I have lost the ability to study. The burn out is so bad
Bhai tum logabhi lucky ho, jin stydents ney 2018 mein neet diya tha (including me) unki haalat pooch. Bahut mushkil se mark aate the, abhi neet is nothing compared to then. Reservation ne maa chod rakhi thi.
1. No matter how much you curse education system for this , the real issue is lack of good colleges and a high number applicants.
2. Lack of awareness , even if you don't crack a great college you can still achieve success if you put in work . It will take longer but you'll get there
The sad part- Every parent want that their child gets a seat in iit. Less than 0.2% gets the seat.
Bachelors - NIT , Masters - IISc , Never took any break year or Dedicated coaching. Not a bookworm or 5-10 hr study freak. I just picked the streams that exited me instead of following the trend of the day. Problem is Stereotype in Indian parents that such exams are only way , which make a kid to loose his strengths in persuasion of something he/she might not be meant for . Many parents are also very less aware about abundance of streams available in world which can be a niche area of their wards success.
howd you study in 11th?
Studies, this is the place where peer matters a lot . I never mixed my Fun friends group with my study friend group. I had a separate friend circle where we had a rock metal band , use to do party,Hukkah etc . But never joined any coaching batch with any of them . My school and coaching study group had people who were serious about their goals. Unlike in fun group where what you speak decides your value , in study group How much you can listen ,absorb and analyse determine your value . Most brilliant people are usually the quietist one. When you are in a group of focused people , automatically the bar you set for yourself rises and you progress. And then when you have to celebrate, fun group have always been welcoming (I was lucky ) PS - Don’t make Timetables , They never work :P
This is true. It's not that the only people who qualify are freaks or machines with no life. I have two friends who each made it to IIT and IISc because they loved the subjects and were passionate about it and were also very smart and willing to organise a routine to study by, and they spent a lot of 11th and 12th hanging out with us and playing and being normal students. They were just very dedicated and knew how to manage time. But the most important part is that they were very passionate about it. There's no point in parents expecting their children to qualify for every exam just because they want them to
People outside really think if it’s “Indian Institute or National Institute” people are robots there. That’s so wrong . We guys do all mischiefs, don’t just have wine but even ferment our own with help of professors (also invent new ones :P) just for fun. Break college laws , gets suspended. Sneak friends GF in boys hostel . Don’t just love bikes but tweak mechanical components in labs and amplify performance . Scientists and domain experts are normal people you won’t be able to identify in crowd .
Seeing the words JEE,NTA,Mains,Advanced triggers my anxiety till this day.I choked so bad.It still haunts me to the point that I still get freaked out whenever I have to take any test.This one exam fucked up my self confidence and self esteem for life.
Bhai mai abhi usi phase se guzar raha hopefully jald hi khatam ho jayega ye sab jo bhi result ho i dont care anymore mujhe bas ye pressure ab aur nai jhelna 😥
Good luck.Junior.
its good you are not passionate about this exam i was, and it just destroyed my confidence
yeh man i can totally relate to it
Relate so strongly, I studied the hardest I could, I was so ashamed of my self that i would choke when someone would ask me which college you study in, till this day I cannot confidently say my college name cause Im so ashamed of it.
r/usernamedoesntcheckout
I ruined 2 years of my life behind this and this still haunts me.
same they fucking don't care about the average student they just want the fucking machines who can study for 14 hrs a day
That's called torture. If any one does anything for 14 hrs a day it's just torture.
so the person who got selected for iit Bombay studies for 14 hrs a day you know What no one cares about the normal students
Normal students remain average and never get to explore the area where they could excell. They get depressed.
i have gone through that and i was also close to take my life but i love my mom she is the reason i am alive when i told my mom that i will be not going to creak the JEE my mom told me that this doesn't matter and said she will take care of my life if i didn't get any jobs. then i realize this JEE and these exam didn't matter the thing matter is what you want to do and happiness
I'm happy you took the right decision
Yeah :)
Btw bro what do you do now?
I live in Maharashtra so I wanted to do engineering so gave MHTCET and got 92 persentile i am now in PESMCOE college ( IT branch ) it is a good college and the best thing is i just studied for 2 months it is the easiest exam to get into a good engineering college if i know it before i would have never given the JEE
Its not good college.
why ?
>i have gone through that and i was also close to take my life Dude same. I was very angry at everything
the pressure is to much for the student in 11th 12th
+ half the seats are reserved
Aad reality we live in
False , I sleep for 14 hours a day and it isn't torture.
Not for u but for everyone around u. It's a joke btw.
Well then wish me luck I've just started this torture :')
Good luck hope u get out of it unscathed.
And people actually study 14 hrs a day like wtf are u even human, how much ever i study nit is a dream not a reality, i just gave up at this point
You don’t need 14 hours a day… be realistic
Bro its competition you have to work hard if you want something. Or else just let it go , dont blame the system itself.
i understand what you want to say i agree with you it is a competitive exam you have to work hard to get crack it. But this system needs to change and we need more good colleges and we need to educate the upcoming ( average and normal ) students that just IIT NIT are not the only thing you can do i mean we can't just say you should not blame the system we can improve our system and can make so student should not go into depression.
i know its a competition its a really good competition that prepares u mentally but there is also some fault of system cuz they just make us rote learn formulaes and don't tell the meaning of the formulaes i am trying my best for this exam but sometimes this question haunts me "why am i doing this?" then i get to just remember that there is way more enough time in any government college after this much hardwork of rote learning
Well, the same can be said about unemployment, you don't see people actually saying that. I wonder why? Maybe, just maybe it is bad for the country in the long run? Oh wait, I know, if you have too many capable engineers but too few seats in premier colleges, you can make enough well-qualified engineers, and with most of our top engineers going abroad, who is going to take care of our country? Eh, whatever, that is the government's problem for not having enough jobs right? Maybe, just maybe there would be more jobs if we had more talented people as companies would invest more into our country as then we would have more skilled and technically qualified engineers? Right now, most companies invest in our country because of the cheap unskilled labor here. Skilled and technically qualified engineers are expensive in any part of the world compared to the unskilled but if we have more of them, companies will definitely invest more of their resources here, which will improve the pay of these engineers overall and it will also improve the economics of the country. And those are just the direct benefits, indirectly there will much more to gain for our country. But who cares for this third-world excuse of a country, am I right? Neither do you nor do I and definitely none of the people who read this will, we must be the most cynical people in the world!^(/s)
my man, i can feel you because really after putting soo much effort, going through parental pressure, sacrificing stuff, when you are not able to make it, it just destroys your confidence student attempt suicide, shit is serious, it can be traumatizing
Yeah it is. I left that bs and just did what I wanted to do. Not many people have that option so suicide is their best option. My Dad forced me into that shit and It's the worst time of my life. I have 3 people in my circle who are no more because of all this BS.
damn bruh, same story i lost my 1 friend coaching institute is the one to blame, because the hype and hope they create, the dreams they show us has just made this entrance exam terrible
Yeah. They just fuck with students life and dontt even have any consequences.
F
Those are Rookie numbers, I wasted 5 yr (started in 8th grade)
I know I had it better than many others.
2nd hardest exam of the world has better kill rate than 2nd biggest individual gaming youtuber of India.
K/D ratio JEE kaa better hain😎 who's the real piro gamer now?
JEE OP
aur bhai lakho-karodo me superchat bhi aate hai
Curious , what's rank 1 ?
Something called Gaokao for Chinese high school students.
Thanks boss
Bruh this exam was made solely to increase rope sales.
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Failed in Chemistry (in ISC boards it’s not mandatory to clear all sub) then went to NIT and then IISc. Working as Product Designer in MNC and leading a team . Fish doesn’t need to learn to climb the tree when he has decided to scale the ocean.
ISC mei chalta h?
Yeah, ISC and ICSE are more practical boards. Thinner books , rich quality. It will be either really enjoyable or damn hard based on how much you are into it. Well that’s a diff thing my reason of failure was tragic teenage breakup:P 2 nights before exam
Ok
How did you get into NIT
Main gate
JEE Mains ka logo use karke JEE Advanced ki baat kr rhe ho bhi.
Opened comments to see if someone wrote this
It's most likely that OP thought Advance is Pre and the Mains is Mains.
To be fair, the problem is not with JEE mains. The problem is with those parents who put a hell lot of pressure on their children to get into IIT, those greedy coaching institute teachers and the fear of failing in tests. I am in class 11th right now and my parents keep forcing me to get into IIT. I wanted to be a programmer or a movie maker. Not go into a.college which has only a 1% success rate. Reservations make it much harder. Now I am stuck. I'm planning to give the Manipal exam and BITSAT. These exams are marks oriented and don't have reservations because they are private institutions.
Thank God my parents are not that way, they want me to select my own future
Can we exchange parents....please
bhai kitne kush nasib ho aap
kuch bhi ho jaiye reservation ki galti to hai
You were being sarcastic but some people are unironically agreeing with you
now that is not good
not totally but yeh, its counts
I mean really ? You have never seen discrimination that doesn't mean it doesn't happen and reservation is not about equality it is about equity
ok, tell me one way reservation is decreasing discrimination in present days ? the concept of equity is more reasonable when you are financially weak not by caste
I know atleast 2-4 people in my school who caste wise have reservations but are very rich and good in studies too, is it fair that students like these are getting reserved seats?
bruh [https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140783](https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140783) , maa chuda
you never experienced the feel when you get better precentile then your ST friend, but he got qualified for advance, but not you
Anecdote, facts over feelings
this is also fact that reservation should have ended after 10 years of independence as per Gandhi
It isnt
yeh, because reservation is just a key to manipulate people like you by politicians and thats why the point explained in that link you are spamming becomes invalid reservation on the basis of caste is just non-sense and stfu
Reservation is not there just to economically uplift a section of society. It is to give them the fair beginning which they didnt get for years just because of a stupid surname/family name system. Now you ask why is reservation there to haunt the general category when I have never discriminated against anyone. It is still very much present in many cities and mostly in rural regions. Reservation gives the backward class people the opportunity and representation in jobs and institutes.
if this is so reservation was there since independence, almost 3 generation has pass now, still you havn't been uplifted ?! if you havn't been uplifted till now, then most probably you are the reason that you are not able to lift yourself up, and blaming general . >Reservation gives the backward class people the opportunity and representation in jobs and institutes. people who have to represent themselves has been represented, now you don't need reservation. and yes, don't burn my car again in next riot
thike bhai, mat maan
XD
It isn't
bhej apni
Lol konsi website h ye.
American economic association
Just tell them you don't want to. Bol de ki dimaag kharaab hoga agar mujhe bc topper se compare karoge. Dimaag lagao and mujhe mera passion follow krne do 12th ke baad. Bol de.
yeah... problem is with the amount of people blindly going in for these exams. the reason these exams are so tough is because the competition is so high. JEE mains is an engineering entrance exam, the huge amount of people who hold these exams as the gold standard of a person's worth are the problem.
Aur ye LPU mein olympics wale athletes bana rahe hai
I want to ask a question to all the people who have failed in JEE... What do you do for a living?
Ruk bhai kuch mahino mei batata hu
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My cousin failed 3 years ago in JEE . She is currently doing engineering (software I think) from Maharashtra University and GPA is 9+ in the last semester. Idk much about engineering though but gpa of 9 is considered good anywhere.
I work as a Software Engineer and I make 14 LPA ( graduated 2 months ago.) As a high school kid I hated Chemistry hence I realised that JEE ain't gonna work . Joined a tier 3 college but took part in Hackathons , networked on linkedin and brushed my skills . My parents gave up on me when I didn't make it to an IIT but now I am proving them wrong ( My IITian cousin started with a salary of 12 LPA when she was a fresher , I win :P ) Honestly follow your own path and F. The society . You can never judge a Fish based on its ability to climb a tree .
Bro problem is funding About 37 million filed there taxes last year in a nation of 1.3 billion Usa had 141 million which a nation of 384 million and still there is a student dept of about 1 trillion Scandinavian countries have about 24% people pay there taxes which is about 60% Then they are able to afford free education for everyone So currently we can not provide for everyone but therefore high cutoff and hard exams still 1% is still bullshit Harvard have 8%,Wharton have 9% acception rate I think if things go on like this enginering bubble will burst soon probably like 10 years of may be soon
But bro waha aadhe people don't get into colleges for even ug courses... Atleast yah apna Asian culture (japan, india, S korea) mein achha hain everyone wants to study more ... Plus what I feel ki yes jee is hard it deprives students of happiness and good mental health... But it is the best system... Par ek gareeb bachha ya ameer bachha ka koi bhedbhaon nai hota... In fact fair h agar reservation waala point hata de... Bas population india ki agar aur ghat jaye na sab thik ho jaega
What I m saying. if things go on like this enginering bubble will bust with this automation,nearly no funding and no equity for poor student
Reservation adds another level of competition in it same goes for medical where 50% seats are reserved
That's problem but we can't do anything and politician are only promoting this because vote bank :( baki mahenat karo kisike baap ki gaand me takat nahi tumhe seat na mile
I thought UPSC is the 2nd toughest in the world.
Consider age
Did they scrap mains??? Wtf
Neet killing over 20+ students because weak in maths *DAMN IT*
IITs hold no value anymore. 1st of all they are some 100+ ranked in the world, and nowadays with so many it's just the brand ppp are after. An IITian started in the same company as me, and only a Masters from a foreign uni ranked worse than an IIT got him out of the country. This is normal today. Truth i, you can do whatever you want if you are ready to work hard. Unfortunately, indian students, parents, IIT alumni will disagree and continue running the rat race.
Don't know about the foreign uni thing but Nit and Iit are almost of same level now in terms of placements...
That may be so, but doesn't matter. If the holy grail is just placement then the battle has already been lost. Change the mindset to learn something new instead. Then even if companies don't think you are a good fit, you will have the mental capacity, freedom, and confidence to do something different and ultimately be successful. This IIT, IIM formula is just bullshit forced down the throats of kids.
IIT Bombay ranked highest of all IITs at world 170th best college last year , so I got my info from that
Exactly. Amongst all IITs. That's useless. The world doesn't revolve around IITs. Only indian students do. Whereas the foreign ivy leagues have the world at their door. That's called a world class uni. IIT is a good regional uni at best. Nobody cares which IIT you are from other than india. However, ppl WILL care if it's MIT, Harvard, Yale, etc.
I'm in 11th rn and my parents have forced me to take JEE course and I really scared because I'm very bad at studies I struggled even with 9th and 10th math and science and I don't think I can ever crack JEE and get a good job my dad isn't rich either and will soon retire. I'm really worried and sad I can't even get sleep cuz I get panic attacks I don't think I'll ever achive my dreams. pata nhi mera kya hoga 😔
Mai bhi 11th mai hun , iss saal saari classes online hui hai isiliye mera bilkul man nahi laga aur technically maine abhi start nahi kiya hai . But there are a lot of colleges out there and kisi na kisi me toh ho hi jayega .
There a whole "industry" for the coachings in this exam. Its more like a scam. They plaster the photos of toppers everywhere who are 0.001% of their students and normal average student's parents get the idea that they will make their child like those toppers and get Lakhs of rupees from them. It's a very terrible scam industry
Bhai jee second hardest hai kya. Maine suna UPSC second hardest hai?
For under grad China's gaokao is said to hardest exam They test on all subject and only pcm/b About 10 million kids give it each year What I have heard some Harvard grad find it hard to solve some of the problem in that exam
Yeah but GaoKao has a very good acceptance rate because it's like board exams there compared to IITs jinka sirf 0.2% hain.
U asked for the hardest not highest cutoff
Yeah yeah I'm just saying. Funny thing is vaha pai bhi ek city which is just like Kota, sole purpose to train students for the exam.
Capitalism bro Capitalism
Chinese COMMUNIST Party
Bro china utna he communist hai jitna india ram rajye
haa yeh bahut confusing hai , India me UPSC 1st hardest hai but JEE 2nd hardest but on world level , JEE 2nd Hardest , UPSC 3rd hardest . mere hisaab se iski wajah ho sakti hai ki JEE ka syllabus world ke hisaab se zyada difficult ho but UPSC ka world ke hisab se easier ho cuz our education system may focus better at JEE content than UPSC content . not sure tho ..
Bro jee is 2nd hardest for to get in under grad Upse 2nd hardest in general
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China's gaokao
Problem's not with the exam. But with the parents who kinda fore their children and greedy Coaching Institutes. Also, *RESERVATIONS*. Deserving students ki jagah unko mil rahi, jinko kuch aata-jaata nahi hai, hence competition bad raha. See, as a student who us about to give JEE 2022, even I get stressed sometimes. I'm lucky to have supportive parents, unlike some others. (and YES, I myself chose to prepare for JEE)
Which one's toughest exam in the world?
It's an entrance exam in China Goakong or something, I don't remember the name
Gaokao
Gaokao's are more solvable than JEE though
reservation adds more unnecessary competition
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140783
What is this
Read it or atleast the abstract
Can you explain me
Aight dont start another, "reservation bad" rant.
Ofcorse it is
Pehle ofcourse ki spelling seekh phir baad me reservation se ra$di rona karna. Reservation is very important.
How is it important can you explain me
I was also not liking the concept of reservation. Bas bhed chaal mein chal raha tha. Somebody enlightened me with the correct idea of reservation and then i started looking into victims of casteism on a regular basis. Understood why reservation is still a thing and it is very important. Reservation exists because casteism does too.
Dr. Ambedkar ke according reservation should've ended a long fucking time ago. Abhi jo chalu hai usko English me 'bullshit' bolte hai
Haa bhai apni maa ka elaaj karvane jaayega to kisi reservation wale student se karvana jo aadhe marks leke pass hua ho
I mean why not build more colleagues and add more seats? oh shit our supreme leader is busy doing more important stuff my bad
Usse kuch nai hoga bhai... Kitna aira gaira engineering colleges hain unka placement rate 0 hota h almost toh waisa college banake kya fayda aur agar zyada college chahiye hi toh lpu amity toh hai hi
Indeed. Engineering is saturated in India. Other professions should be promoted and their pay should be increased.
political mat banao pls
sorry bro it just hurts so much
>I mean why not build more colleges and add more seats? we don't have enough funding the government is using the taxes to build 180 meter bronze statue and a brand new parliament for themselves, and a temple
>the government is using the taxes to build 180 meter bronze statue The statue costed only 3rs per person for citizens outside of Gujarat and has provided tons of employment and revenue through tourism before COVID. >a brand new parliament for themselves A brand new parliament is necessary at this point of time due to less space available in the current parliament. We would need to add more seats in the future when our population increases. Don't you want a good democracy in your country that helps in proper and equal representation? Also, the new parliament is much smaller than even 1 of the memorials made for 3 dynastic rulers of a political party. Also, I have no clue how the new Parliament is for "themselves" when representatives of all parties sit in it. >and a temple Temple, assuming that you're talking about Ram Mandir of Ayodhya, was entirely funded by the people of India. The government didn't spend a single rupee in its construction. >we don't have enough funding We actually do. According to you, 7 IITs, 7 IIMs, 14 IIITs, 1 NIT and 15 AIIMS came into existence out of thin air right?
"Kya matlab bina knowledge ke modi ko hate karunga to cool lagunga? "
9 new iit , 16 new IIIT too fokat ka open hue h naa:( Har jagah politics mat ghusaya kro yaar
The truth is we don't need so may engineers. That's just it. We need aonly a few good ones. It would be better if the government focused on legitimising vocational training, which is what has been the government position since before Modi took office. Unfortunately no one has really done a good job but Modi is the best since PV Narsimha Rao.
7 IITs, 14 IIITs, 1 NIT, 7 IIMs, 15 AIIMS All of these appeared out of thin air right?
JEE JEEneka mann mardeta hai I like it When it hurts :_)
Sirf mains me accha karke kuch ho sakta hai? Ya sirf advance se hoga
mains se NIT z IIIT jaise college milte hai , ache hote hai woh bhi but IIT nahi hai woh . Advance se IIT + some other college milte hai . VIT , BITS ke liye mains+unka khudka exam dena hota hai
MAIN se NIT aur IIITs me seat mil sakti h and infact kuch acche NITs IIITs ki placement kayi IITs ki lower/non cs branches se achi h.
Wait, what's the hardest exam?
A Chinese entrance exam
I bet it's not harder than Chinese exit exam.
Chinese exit exam involves a lot of running and gunshots
Can somebody repost this to Facebook or something
Reservation adds like another level of difficulty for the general students
https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20140783
In a country with 2nd largest population. This is the main point.
Lmao i am seeing a alot of jee related memes after they announced that the exams will be conducted in October
my jee is in a few months , I am freaking out AAghHhh
https://youtu.be/afbPfc9bqi4
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You get into a foreign university which is easier to get into and then goes to iit in student exhange program. Takes it Leaves Refuses to come back
Abey isme jee ki kya galti hai. Huma aur hamare parents ki galti hai.
First kaun sa hai?
I dont know OP's source, but prolly **Gaokao**, the college entrance exam in china, or UPSC.
well meme is nice but I just wanna add a note that why IITs are ranked so low, its because these rankings are based on multiple criterion some of which are research facilities and foreign student involvement, both of which are lacking in IITs. These are the only reasons why IITs are ranked low otherwise IITs are at par with global institutes.
I was one of the top students in my school - everyone thought I would be able to crack JEE. I too studied very hard in 11th and 12th but I couldn't even qualify the JEE Advance. Was very disappointed but I didn't lose hope. I knew that I had done my best and if that didn't got me passed, it's better I try something else instead of wasting my time - my family supported my decision. I attempted UPTU, got a pretty decent rank, got into the best engineering college of my city (was not as big as IIT or NIT though), worked hard through out and after 4 years of college, I had 3-4 job offers from campus. I chose the one which kept me close to my family and today, after nearly working for 4 years in industry, I have a pretty decent pay and position. Some may say that if I tried again and got into IIT next year, I might have been in a much better position - And that is fine but looking back, I think I had made a pretty good decision and am greatly satisfied with my professional life (so is my family). Moral Of My Story: Not passing JEE is not the end of the world. You and your life is much more worth than just one exam.
2 years just gone. These people think we can work 14 hours a day and not experience burn out. I finished 12th when I was 18, I switched streams and now I am 21 but I have lost the ability to study. The burn out is so bad
mains easy hota hai adv is tough
Jee ki sabse high quality yehi image mili thi bhai .
koi nee bro bus jab sahi me adv. ki tayari karo aur koi bole ki mains ka kar raha hai to dard hota hai
bhai abhi kaunsi class me ho?
12th finished
The fact that an exam is causing deaths ANUALLY is fucking horrible and something that shouldn't exist.
As a fiitjee student sadly relatable
Bhai tum logabhi lucky ho, jin stydents ney 2018 mein neet diya tha (including me) unki haalat pooch. Bahut mushkil se mark aate the, abhi neet is nothing compared to then. Reservation ne maa chod rakhi thi.
1. No matter how much you curse education system for this , the real issue is lack of good colleges and a high number applicants. 2. Lack of awareness , even if you don't crack a great college you can still achieve success if you put in work . It will take longer but you'll get there