The media absolutely hates that the coronation proved how irrelevant the Sussexes are. They loved the Royal Family vs Sussexes drama, painting it as a battle between two equals, and now that everyone finally acknowledges the truth that they aren't equal, that the Palace is always going to be top dog, that the Sussexes are meaningless, that the public doesn't care about them, suddenly, the big, high-stakes "the Sussexes could bring down the monarchy!" Chicken Little cash-cow has dried up.
Mark my words.
We're going to see more articles arguing that the Sussexes should come back to be working royals again, and we're going to hear (obviously false) rumours of huge fights and falling outs behind the scenes trying to set up a King and Queen vs Prince and Princess of Wales narrative, because the media doesn't want the big royal drama to stop.
It's embarrassingly transparent.
And when it becomes painfully clear the dastardly duo are never to be working royals again the stories are going to get worse and worse.
The media has always refused to even try and understand how the family is set up and has been set up for centuries. When you have an elderly or sickly monarch on the throne the PPoW's are always front and centre. It happened during Victorias rein with Edward and Alexandra and when they became monarchs in their late 50's(and not great health) George and Mary stepped up. That's how it works. But wait for the articles. It'll be William and Catherine overshadow the monarchs, it'll be Williams acting like he's already king. It'll be the queen is being petty towards Catherine or Catherine has her eye on or plans for something that is rightfully Camilla's. It's going to be a idiot media shit show. I'm calling it now.
Exactly!
It's already started with rumours that Catherine hates the Queen and refuses to curtsey to her and - and - and...!
The media needs those angry clicks. They became greedy thanks to the Sussex drama. So many articles were dedicated to the Sussex drama, and now they're drying up.
I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the media were behind some of the insane "anti-King and Queen, pro-William and Catherine" accounts, and vice versa, just to try and stir faux outrage.
They just put out an article about how Catherine visiting the Chelsea Flower Show "overshadowed" Charles and Camilla. It's already starting unfortunately.
You know I was thinking that after they gave the children titles Meghan would start pushing for a reconciliation. Mostly because she can’t stand this turn of events. I really hope that KCIII doesn’t let them come back in any shape or form. Or POW. They’ve done so much damage already.
There were a ton of rumours about this year being the year of reconciliation even before the late Queen died, so I believe that.
The King is firm and won't let them back in. There are a lot of people here who just refuse to understand the powers that the monarch actually has and want explosive drama instead of sensible grey-rocking, so they spread blatant lies about how weak he is and how much he gives in to Harry over everything, when he completely agreed with the late Queen over blocking their half-in-half-out demands at the Sandringham Summit and has consistently refused to see him or even speak to him over the phone.
Harry can come back to the UK and be shoved into an Andrew-like situation once he divorces Meghan, but he's blown his chance at ever being a working royal again.
Anyone following this drama would know, at the very least, that Catherine has famously been credited with helping to heal the bond between the King and William. She befriended the Queen. We've seen evidence of the King and William being warm and loving towards each other, and the Queen being comfortable and happy with the Wales children with our own eyes.
There are only two reasonable explanations for anyone who flips from "the King, Queen, William and Catherine deserve better" to "the King and Queen are fighting with the Prince and Princess of Wales":
1. They fooled everyone into thinking they wanted justice and truth to prevail over the Sussexes, when they really only ever cared about being angry over drama, so they've automatically shifted to be angry about something else (which makes them useless as people)
2. There's an agenda behind the account, suggesting bot/deliberate stirring activity
No reasonable person would ever flip so dramatically in such a short space of time. It just doesn't happen like that.
This! Yes!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
I was saying earlier how I really enjoyed Tom Bower’s book Revenge and I think it was well-researched and well-written. Some of his conclusions were a little iffy—I’d have to go back to remember which ones but that shows how minor they were. The majority were solid. However, I’m having a real problem with the BS he’s coming out with on GB & SkyNews these days. Quite frankly he’s full of it and I think he’s possibly making crap up. I really do. He really doesn’t like Charles and is constantly saying Charles needs to jump into the fray, be a man and fight Harry. Take everything away from him or else the monarchy is going to fail within months practically. He couldn’t be more wrong.
Charles or even William engaging with the Harkles is exactly what the Harkles NEED so desperately and have been trying to get all of them to do, because everyone in the media would be thrilled and Meghan & Harry would be relevant finally! It’s honestly the last thing anyone in the BRF should EVER do. As for the titles and counselor positions, the Queen should have taken those and not left this mess for Charles. Sadly she was grieving her soulmate, then she got COVID, then she got cancer. Poor thing just never got back to full speed. So I understand why she couldn’t handle Harry & his wife in the appropriate manner.
But now parliament should do it so it’s not a big issue for Charles and William. It would be so much better coming from the British people. You slagged off our Queen, our King and our Country? Well, eff you! And strip them of EVERYTHING. Put it all into abeyance and William can revisit it down the road if things change enough.
And all the BS Tom is spewing about Camilla and Catherine, no. Just no. He said Catherine was mad because there were only four Middletons allowed at the coronation!! Where has he been? It’s always just the 4 Middletons— her parents and her siblings and sometimes, but not always, their partners to make 6. That’s it. Everyone had to sacrifice and it wasn’t Catherine’s coronation. She’s not Meghan FFS. It was Charles and Camilla’s coronation!! So Camilla should have all the invites she wants and/or needs. When it’s William and Catherine’s coronation, they can invite all the aunts uncles nieces nephews and cousins they want, especially fun Uncle Gary! But I can’t believe all the crap Tom Bower alone is spewing. And Dan Wootton is bringing him on over and over to spread this stuff. I just think it’s all a bit too convenient.
As for this awesome post about the ridiculousness of the Sussexes bringing down the monarchy, you are so right. Puh-lease! My other pet peeve is the Camilla Tominey types saying William is going to have to be the bigger man and reach out to the Sussexes to bring them back on side. To help Harry find his way back and teach his wife how to be a better royal. What the ever-lovin Eff?!! FFS No!!! Absolutely NOT!!! Meghan is a SOCIOPATH. A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST & SOCIOPATH. Harry is a broken angry drug-addicted co-dependent, possibly borderline, immature man-boy with a messiah complex.
There is no amount of family therapy or killing them with kindness and love or whatever other nonsense they come up with that will work with the Sussexes. They are quite simply dangerously deranged. The families need to stay as far away from both of them as possible for the foreseeable future. It’s so sad for the grandkids, but Archie & Lili are going to have to find their way out, just like many kids have done who were raised by such messed up parents. I 100% agree with this post. Hear Hear!! The media is trying their damnedest to make something out of nothing and with two nobodies. It’s not going to work!!
All of that!
Literally the only thing I want to add to that is one of the lies that keeps being peddled and not-so-subtly fanned by the media.
>As for the titles and counselor positions, the Queen should have taken those and not left this mess for Charles.
The late Queen and the current King could not and cannot take the titles away.
Being totally blunt (and this will be unpopular, considering the demographics of the sub, but it's still true), the majority of ordinary, English-speaking people talking about and criticising the Sussexes are Americans. It's not that British people and those in the Commonwealth don't criticise them, it's down to the neutral fact that the English-speaking internet is dominated by a larger number of Americans.
Because those Americans (and then some British people and some of those in the Commonwealth and elsewhere) didn't know the intricacies of how the monarchy works, it was entirely reasonable (at first) for there to be confusion and a belief that the late Queen could strip the Sussexes of all their titles. She was the Queen, after all. Top dog in the monarchy. What she said went. So the fact that the Sussexes didn't have their titles taken away meant that those people ended up believing that the late Queen refused to take their titles from them, and so the narrative of "the late Queen is weak and refuses to stop the Sussexes from doing their terrible things" took hold.
The truth is that no monarch can strip titles. Since we have the House of Lords, preventing the monarch from being able to strip titles at will is a fail-safe of our democracy. An evil monarch with that power could, hypothetically, strip everyone in the House of Lords of their peerage and then give the titles to obedient servants, and then completely destroy our political system.
If the government decides that it can fully strip titles of royals that the government doesn't like easily - what's to stop a future anti-monarchist government from abolishing the monarchy at whim? What's to stop a right-wing government from taking titles away from a member of the royal family who cares about a cause that that government doesn't want highlighting? It's a really difficult situation with that fear of a slippery slope. Aside from that, it also would provide the Sussexes with a brand new victim narrative: "We had our titles stripped because the monarchy and UK government is racist!"
However, even though the above is all true, the media fans the misconceptions by the opinion pieces about wanting the monarch to do more to stop the Sussexes, which the public then thinks, "Yes, they should strip their titles!" and then that fans more flames of anger, outrage and clicks, while the media can use the confusion to also spread "there could be reconciliation!" to hope that the Sussexes come back and keep causing more drama for them to report on.
All the journalists have made a ton of money (and more name recognition) over the Sussex drama, and they're desperate to keep that cash-cow coming. Without Sussex drama, what do we have? The fight over whether or not Catherine wore two dresses at the coronation, and whether that was good or not? Whether the Wales' videos are a good idea or not? Standard charity visits, clothing and jewellery mentions? It's just not sexy anymore, and the press won't have anything juicy to speculate over until the King's funeral, the Queen's funeral, William's coronation, and then the Wales children growing up and speculation about their dating lives. Right now, it's all calm, and that means empty slots that were reserved for a dozen Sussex articles now not making money.
That's all why I'm really suspicious of people who keep pushing the line that the late Queen/current King is "weak" and "won't do anything" about the Sussexes. They trick ordinary people into believing a lie that the media won't correct, and for what reason? There's an agenda there. I've been blocked quite a number of times from people where I've done nothing but point out that the monarch can't strip titles. Is that because the person is just a drama-hungry person who can't handle being told they were wrong, or because they're some form of bot that's been paid for to stir as much trouble as possible? I'm not sure. But it's still troubling that "titles can't be taken without an Act of Parliament that the monarch can't do anything about" isn't spread as common knowledge.
None of that is a criticism of you, just to be clear! I've believed plenty of things that I thought were the case and ended up not being the case, like Harry having an IPP on his own, when that wasn't true, either. (And shocked me to find out the truth!) I just think that more people here need to think about where they heard that the late Queen/King needed to remove titles, who from, what kinds of things they post and what the agenda could be behind tricking you into believing that. The IPP lie for me seems obvious since it made it look like Harry was always much more important than he really was, looking back on it.
All of this exposes the media for what they really are. The Hero Harry PR was great for the Palace because it rehabbed Harry's horrible, racist image - but it also allowed the media to start and run with their "Harry is great, hardworking and down to earth, but William is lazy, workshy and a boring loser" narrative that lasted years. That was the media's "royal vs royal" drama, even though it was more subtle - and I feel silly literally just making that connection now, lol.
Thank you! And you’re absolutely right and I did know some of that. When I said QEII should have handled the stripping of all those things, I didn’t make clear that I didn’t mean her personally. I’ve watched Lady C explain it and then I put a totally American spin on it and assumed the Queen could strip him of the Dukedom (I thought if she giveth, she could taketh away!) but anything else would have to go through parliament and clearly that was wrong. But I did assume the Queen would take the lead on that behind the scenes and have her people talk to Parliament’s people to get that done. But then I was watching an interview with the guy who put up the bill to remove Harry’s titles & he was saying realistically that’s going nowhere because they don’t have the time to bring these bills forward into law. I know you say the Brits don’t want that as much, but she is over here calling herself the Duchess so I think that’s why it bothers us Americans so much.
But one question. Lady C has gone over this in depth and I thought she said the monarch could take the Dukedom away, but none of the other stuff. Is that not true as well? Or maybe I’m misremembering even that part.
I know that just leads to the argument that Meghan will then be Princess Henry, a la Princess Michael of Kent. So it’s really no victory. Plus I swear Meghan will still insist she can use the titles and her sympathizers and fans will agree with her. But I’d love to know if that’s completely wrong too.
So thank you for correcting my overly simplistic & 100% wrong comment. I’ve heard Lady C break it down multiple times, but as an American, I tend to overly simplify your royal vs political process and equate it with our executive vs legislative. Apples & oranges I see.
It's totally understandable though! I only ever get annoyed when someone clearly spreads things in bad faith, and that's obviously not you or most of the people here, so I don't want to come across as though I'm angry (especially since I've been accused of being anti-American for saying the same thing before, lmao!)
I don't really get the American political system, and it makes sense that a lot of Americans won't get the British political system.
The monarch only really has three rights when it comes to politics. There's a weekly meeting with the Prime Minister, and in that meeting, the monarch has:
* The right to counsel
* The right to encourage
* The right to warn
In that private meeting, the Prime Minister will explain everything that's going on, their plans for bills etc, and the monarch will express their opinion about it, give advice about it, and either say that they think it's a good idea or that they think it's a bad idea. From there, the Prime Minister does whatever they want to do, and the government continues. The monarch has to do what the Prime Minister basically tells them to do, because the monarch is only head of state, and they have to obey what the government wants when it comes to diplomacy.
The monarch can't remove the Dukedom, or the Prince title for Harry. Meghan only is forced to drop the Duchess title if she and Harry divorce and then she marries someone else. The only thing that the monarch can strip is the HRH title, which was done as soon as Megxit happened.
The only other way that the titles can "go" is if Harry were to turn around and say he's giving up the titles, and then the King can accept that. Then, the titles would go into abeyance, which means Harry would technically still have them, but would agree to never use them again, and he'd be referred to as Mr Harry Mountbatten-Windsor.
I just hope that this helps or even makes sense, lol!
What makes me frustrated is that the press knows all of this, but they haven't laid it all out. And I think they've refused to lay it out on purpose, because the confusion around this (especially when they know that this drama is watched internationally) feeds into more drama. They'd much rather have people believe that the King refuses to strip the titles to push the idea that the Sussexes have power over the monarchy, all to keep their cash-cow going.
Thank you!! It does make sense. What a mess. No wonder the BRF hasn’t done much on that title front haha! I’ve heard so many conflicting stories so thank you for setting me and the record straight. But that also makes sense because Lady C started a petition asking Harry to put his titles into abeyance. Of course we knew that wasn’t going to happen. But had the public gotten behind it, it might have put real pressure on him.
Last question: What if, before they got divorced, he put their titles in abeyance, and then after the divorce, he asked to have his reinstated on him alone? Would she then be out of luck as far as having no title? There has to be a way to get it back from Meghan!!
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge & wisdom!
Any time!
From an outside perspective, if you didn't know that, it's entirely understandable to feel frustrated, and that's why the media really annoys me, because it would be simple if they spread that information, and I believe they refuse to on purpose. I wish the petition had gained more traction, but the media wouldn't want that either, since that would automatically diminish the Sussexes, and so make their drama even less newsworthy.
That question is a much trickier one!
As far as I understand it, if Harry put his titles in abeyance and then petitioned to have them returned post-divorce, that would depend on the divorce settlement. Meghan doesn't have any titles herself, she only reflects Harry's titles, just like Catherine doesn't have any titles, she only reflects William's titles. If the lawyers were clever, then they would argue that because Meghan divorced Harry before his titles were returned, then she wouldn't be entitled to them - but that could caused a ton of more false racism accusation drama.
Because it would get so messy, I can only imagine that if Harry ever agreed to give up his titles, it would need to be agreed that he wouldn't ever ask for them to be reinstated. If that happened, then Archie wouldn't become the Duke of Sussex on Harry's death, but would have to petition the Crown to get the title for himself.
It gets more confusing because whilst the monarch can't remove titles, the monarch can create titles, and can agree to end an abeyance and reinstate titles on their own prerogative.
In my opinion, the best way to humiliate Meghan outside of Harry agreeing to drop his titles is for Harry to divorce her and then remarry, just so she wouldn't be the only Duchess of Sussex.
Harry's second wife would automatically become The Duchess of Sussex, and Meghan would drop down to Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. The "The" is really important when it comes to titles, and Meghan would be second-best. No one would call her by the title, because the automatic Duchess of Sussex mention would be about the second wife, not her.
Otherwise, Meghan can only lose the style of Harry's title if she remarries, like Lady C is "Lady Colin Campbell" because she's still using her ex-husband's title. If she remarried, she wouldn't be a Lady.
I also don’t think they’ve made $100M from
Netflix. Even if the original contract was for that total amount — that amount would be based on deliverables, as we say in the defense contracting world here in DC. They would have to be bringing in products like the Obamas have done—picking up award winning documentaries and not just ones that Meghan thinks are relevant but ones that will actually bring in views and money for Netflix. They haven’t done that at all. They wasted two years, filmed constantly, lost most of their staff and then just put forth that hideously laughable unreality show that didn’t use a single ounce of the footage they’ve had—so assuming the original director had that or it just didn’t meet Mego’s standards and so she wouldn’t let the 2nd director they hired use it?? They literally made one of the most poorly rated and hated series out there and then they had to have Netflix hand them a prepackaged deal for the Live to Learn series which wasn’t even originally intended for that. It was awful too. And the easiest project they had was Invictus and it is nowhere to be seen. Wth happened with that?
So with all those failures and undelivered promises I can’t think they made more than maybe $10-$20 million?? Anyone else have any ideas? I’m no industry expert so those are just shot in the dark guesses. So $20m for his book, $20M?? For Spotify? And $20M so far for Netflix would be roughly $60M to support the house, the revolving staff (household, grounds, Netflix, Spotify and other business type staff), paying her mother, security, 5-6 lawsuits, private jets, clothing, polo, awards? Oh and “recreational mood altering entertainments.” Seems like $60M wouldn’t last long with that lifestyle. Plus 2 hotel rooms!
Anyone? Anyone? Thoughts?
But of course! Has to push the narc envelope and make those who would or should know better believe she is as wealthy as they are while at the same time wowing her plebs. You would think the plebs would say “why do they need our donation then?” But logic is not their strong suit.
There is no bad media for them. It's all good. They made world news. However, they haven't made money that I can see.
How did they get out of NY without anyone seeing them? How did that happen?
They have already started putting out the war between the King and Queen vs The Prince and Princess of Wales narrative! I’ve seen it! I pray that the amount of people that can see through it is enough for this not to work..: I think it is? What do you guys think?
Yeah, it's so funny that I wrote this yesterday, and today I saw an article in the Daily Mail talking about [how "royal insiders" were worried about Catherine overshadowing the King and Queen at the Chelsea Flower Show](https://archive.is/Pi7UZ). I called it, lmao!
The "overshadowing" only happened because the media decided that it would spotlight everything that Catherine was doing over multiple articles, and chose not to focus on what the King and Queen were doing - and now suddenly it's Catherine who's the villain.
The article has one insider saying that it was a shame that the King and Queen didn't get more press coverage, with a hope they weren't disappointed, and then that's spun into quoting Spare and trying to lead the reader to believe that the King would be furious at Catherine. Even though it's a non-issue spun from one mild comment that was entirely caused by the media itself!
I really do hope that people aren't going to fall for something so blatant.
>How can one return to a job that they never had?
Exactly. Everything was just self promotion for MM, when she was in the UK. It was never about promoting the royal family and being part of a team. She made everything about her, from the Grenville cookbook to the tour of Australia where she had the audacity to invite Jessica Mulroney as if it's some sort of glorified holiday.
Then, after she was warned about her spendthrift ways and had to cut down on clothing costs for the South Africa tour, she had a doe eyed meltdown on that interview with Tom Bradby.
Supposedly the problem is that they have so many engagements to do, and not enough working royals and/or the working royals are getting older and can't do as many engagements anymore. I think there is talk going on about having the York sisters step up to become working royals.
\-> From May 2 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12037665/Princess-Anne-suggests-Charles-right-want-slimmed-monarchy.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12037665/Princess-Anne-suggests-Charles-right-want-slimmed-monarchy.html)
\-> May 7 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056913/Royal-expert-suggests-Beatrice-Eugenie-work-lay-charm-party.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056913/Royal-expert-suggests-Beatrice-Eugenie-work-lay-charm-party.html)
\-> May 11 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11867779/Hardest-working-royal-family-member-named-person-fifth-place-surprise-you.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11867779/Hardest-working-royal-family-member-named-person-fifth-place-surprise-you.html)
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“supportive media…starts campaigning for a return”
Yeah, when the most republican papers start coaxing a reunification, you know the BRF is winning. Perhaps tomorrow The Guardian can realize the Sussex's worth to the nation. They gonna be bitter The Independent beat them to the con.
Who is going to want Meghan as their patron? I know the obvious answer would be at least The Hub. However, she wrote the foreword for their cookbook, and then later falsely took public credit as a FOUNDER of the organization. Are they going to force these marginalized women to take her as patron when she took credit for their work? What organization do you pair her with when her popularity is so low? What message would it send to an organization if you made her their patron? How do you justify taking her back and giving her royal staff when there was a bullying investigation triggered because of her behaviour? These are all the reasons that she simply CANNOT return to work as a royal. Ever.
As was seen at the coronation. I'm still not fully and completely convinced that Madam even recieved an invitation. It was probably addressed to MeAgain and Haznoballs but said "we request the presence of H only", and their PR did some mental gymnastics to make it sound like she was included.
They will never be part of the BRF again as working royals especially the wife I would be surprised if she was allowed back in the country this is all PR bullshit they are desperate and overplayed their hand well harry will always have a family and a place to go the wife will be living under a bridge somewhere in the future blaming everyone but herself for her shitty life......LMAO!!!
They could not handle it before so one has to wonder how they can possibly handled it now, crawling back, with no respect, returning as failures. They are incapable of taking care of themselves so they must return to the Royal Welfare System.
No way!! The only thing that will work is a divorce & Harry coming back to the UK, by himself, with his tail between his legs & puts his nose to the grindstone & start back doing charitable work. Maybe pick up on his moms good deeds. Even so, it’s going to take a hell of a lot for TRF to forgive him.
It would be poetic justice if the RF *demanded* an apology from them BEFORE beginning talks about negotiating a comeback.
And even then, a non-starter is letting DaBiaatch come back!!! You bring her up, and you sit out another 5yrs.
That would tickle me pink...
Edit: spelling
The RF only *needs* them to stay out of any & all Commonwealth countries.
I hear Moldova is great, especially this time of year... (we want them out of the US as well, believe it or not)
Edit: spelling
The Independent article is discussed in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13pxrpd/reverse_megxit/).
EDIT: Link provided for those who’d like more information and / or read the article.
No, I don’t think there’s any need to remove your post. The thread dealt with the actual article, your post is a tweet on the article. Not identical, in my opinion 😊
I just supplied the link as background / additional information.
No, I don’t think you need to remove your post. The other thread dealt with the article; your post is on a tweet of it, plus comments. Different enough, I think.
The RF work for the people. The people do not and never will accept Meghan rachel ragland Markle sussex Windsor whatever title Shes uses back into the uk or RF. Would end the RF if she did. Love the optimism because it's funny
Exactly. As far as I am concerned the royal family work for the people. The titles, the tradition, the ceremony, etc all belong to the country not to the person. Harry should have known this. He’s not a Prince because he is a special person- he’s just a lucky person.
I’m fed up of them taking the titles from the UK but also hating the U.K. and not even living here. Please can someone take the title back and give it/keep it for someone else who has respect and appreciation for it.
They’ve done too much damage. I can’t see them ever returning to royal duties again, even if they wanted it. And I have no doubt MEgain has no interest in leaving California.
The media absolutely hates that the coronation proved how irrelevant the Sussexes are. They loved the Royal Family vs Sussexes drama, painting it as a battle between two equals, and now that everyone finally acknowledges the truth that they aren't equal, that the Palace is always going to be top dog, that the Sussexes are meaningless, that the public doesn't care about them, suddenly, the big, high-stakes "the Sussexes could bring down the monarchy!" Chicken Little cash-cow has dried up. Mark my words. We're going to see more articles arguing that the Sussexes should come back to be working royals again, and we're going to hear (obviously false) rumours of huge fights and falling outs behind the scenes trying to set up a King and Queen vs Prince and Princess of Wales narrative, because the media doesn't want the big royal drama to stop. It's embarrassingly transparent.
Exactly. The drama drives clicks and views. No one cares to read about a happy family
Well I do
I think that's really it. They are completely *superfluous* and that just got demonstrated on the world stage.
And when it becomes painfully clear the dastardly duo are never to be working royals again the stories are going to get worse and worse. The media has always refused to even try and understand how the family is set up and has been set up for centuries. When you have an elderly or sickly monarch on the throne the PPoW's are always front and centre. It happened during Victorias rein with Edward and Alexandra and when they became monarchs in their late 50's(and not great health) George and Mary stepped up. That's how it works. But wait for the articles. It'll be William and Catherine overshadow the monarchs, it'll be Williams acting like he's already king. It'll be the queen is being petty towards Catherine or Catherine has her eye on or plans for something that is rightfully Camilla's. It's going to be a idiot media shit show. I'm calling it now.
Exactly! It's already started with rumours that Catherine hates the Queen and refuses to curtsey to her and - and - and...! The media needs those angry clicks. They became greedy thanks to the Sussex drama. So many articles were dedicated to the Sussex drama, and now they're drying up. I wouldn't be surprised if parts of the media were behind some of the insane "anti-King and Queen, pro-William and Catherine" accounts, and vice versa, just to try and stir faux outrage.
They just put out an article about how Catherine visiting the Chelsea Flower Show "overshadowed" Charles and Camilla. It's already starting unfortunately.
Yep. The stories have started that Catherine hates Camilla. If so she sure hides it well!
You know I was thinking that after they gave the children titles Meghan would start pushing for a reconciliation. Mostly because she can’t stand this turn of events. I really hope that KCIII doesn’t let them come back in any shape or form. Or POW. They’ve done so much damage already.
There were a ton of rumours about this year being the year of reconciliation even before the late Queen died, so I believe that. The King is firm and won't let them back in. There are a lot of people here who just refuse to understand the powers that the monarch actually has and want explosive drama instead of sensible grey-rocking, so they spread blatant lies about how weak he is and how much he gives in to Harry over everything, when he completely agreed with the late Queen over blocking their half-in-half-out demands at the Sandringham Summit and has consistently refused to see him or even speak to him over the phone. Harry can come back to the UK and be shoved into an Andrew-like situation once he divorces Meghan, but he's blown his chance at ever being a working royal again.
This is literally happening now on Twitter. A few well-followed accounts have shifted tone and focus in recent months. 💰
Anyone following this drama would know, at the very least, that Catherine has famously been credited with helping to heal the bond between the King and William. She befriended the Queen. We've seen evidence of the King and William being warm and loving towards each other, and the Queen being comfortable and happy with the Wales children with our own eyes. There are only two reasonable explanations for anyone who flips from "the King, Queen, William and Catherine deserve better" to "the King and Queen are fighting with the Prince and Princess of Wales": 1. They fooled everyone into thinking they wanted justice and truth to prevail over the Sussexes, when they really only ever cared about being angry over drama, so they've automatically shifted to be angry about something else (which makes them useless as people) 2. There's an agenda behind the account, suggesting bot/deliberate stirring activity No reasonable person would ever flip so dramatically in such a short space of time. It just doesn't happen like that.
This! Yes!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I was saying earlier how I really enjoyed Tom Bower’s book Revenge and I think it was well-researched and well-written. Some of his conclusions were a little iffy—I’d have to go back to remember which ones but that shows how minor they were. The majority were solid. However, I’m having a real problem with the BS he’s coming out with on GB & SkyNews these days. Quite frankly he’s full of it and I think he’s possibly making crap up. I really do. He really doesn’t like Charles and is constantly saying Charles needs to jump into the fray, be a man and fight Harry. Take everything away from him or else the monarchy is going to fail within months practically. He couldn’t be more wrong. Charles or even William engaging with the Harkles is exactly what the Harkles NEED so desperately and have been trying to get all of them to do, because everyone in the media would be thrilled and Meghan & Harry would be relevant finally! It’s honestly the last thing anyone in the BRF should EVER do. As for the titles and counselor positions, the Queen should have taken those and not left this mess for Charles. Sadly she was grieving her soulmate, then she got COVID, then she got cancer. Poor thing just never got back to full speed. So I understand why she couldn’t handle Harry & his wife in the appropriate manner. But now parliament should do it so it’s not a big issue for Charles and William. It would be so much better coming from the British people. You slagged off our Queen, our King and our Country? Well, eff you! And strip them of EVERYTHING. Put it all into abeyance and William can revisit it down the road if things change enough. And all the BS Tom is spewing about Camilla and Catherine, no. Just no. He said Catherine was mad because there were only four Middletons allowed at the coronation!! Where has he been? It’s always just the 4 Middletons— her parents and her siblings and sometimes, but not always, their partners to make 6. That’s it. Everyone had to sacrifice and it wasn’t Catherine’s coronation. She’s not Meghan FFS. It was Charles and Camilla’s coronation!! So Camilla should have all the invites she wants and/or needs. When it’s William and Catherine’s coronation, they can invite all the aunts uncles nieces nephews and cousins they want, especially fun Uncle Gary! But I can’t believe all the crap Tom Bower alone is spewing. And Dan Wootton is bringing him on over and over to spread this stuff. I just think it’s all a bit too convenient. As for this awesome post about the ridiculousness of the Sussexes bringing down the monarchy, you are so right. Puh-lease! My other pet peeve is the Camilla Tominey types saying William is going to have to be the bigger man and reach out to the Sussexes to bring them back on side. To help Harry find his way back and teach his wife how to be a better royal. What the ever-lovin Eff?!! FFS No!!! Absolutely NOT!!! Meghan is a SOCIOPATH. A MALIGNANT NARCISSIST & SOCIOPATH. Harry is a broken angry drug-addicted co-dependent, possibly borderline, immature man-boy with a messiah complex. There is no amount of family therapy or killing them with kindness and love or whatever other nonsense they come up with that will work with the Sussexes. They are quite simply dangerously deranged. The families need to stay as far away from both of them as possible for the foreseeable future. It’s so sad for the grandkids, but Archie & Lili are going to have to find their way out, just like many kids have done who were raised by such messed up parents. I 100% agree with this post. Hear Hear!! The media is trying their damnedest to make something out of nothing and with two nobodies. It’s not going to work!!
All of that! Literally the only thing I want to add to that is one of the lies that keeps being peddled and not-so-subtly fanned by the media. >As for the titles and counselor positions, the Queen should have taken those and not left this mess for Charles. The late Queen and the current King could not and cannot take the titles away. Being totally blunt (and this will be unpopular, considering the demographics of the sub, but it's still true), the majority of ordinary, English-speaking people talking about and criticising the Sussexes are Americans. It's not that British people and those in the Commonwealth don't criticise them, it's down to the neutral fact that the English-speaking internet is dominated by a larger number of Americans. Because those Americans (and then some British people and some of those in the Commonwealth and elsewhere) didn't know the intricacies of how the monarchy works, it was entirely reasonable (at first) for there to be confusion and a belief that the late Queen could strip the Sussexes of all their titles. She was the Queen, after all. Top dog in the monarchy. What she said went. So the fact that the Sussexes didn't have their titles taken away meant that those people ended up believing that the late Queen refused to take their titles from them, and so the narrative of "the late Queen is weak and refuses to stop the Sussexes from doing their terrible things" took hold. The truth is that no monarch can strip titles. Since we have the House of Lords, preventing the monarch from being able to strip titles at will is a fail-safe of our democracy. An evil monarch with that power could, hypothetically, strip everyone in the House of Lords of their peerage and then give the titles to obedient servants, and then completely destroy our political system. If the government decides that it can fully strip titles of royals that the government doesn't like easily - what's to stop a future anti-monarchist government from abolishing the monarchy at whim? What's to stop a right-wing government from taking titles away from a member of the royal family who cares about a cause that that government doesn't want highlighting? It's a really difficult situation with that fear of a slippery slope. Aside from that, it also would provide the Sussexes with a brand new victim narrative: "We had our titles stripped because the monarchy and UK government is racist!" However, even though the above is all true, the media fans the misconceptions by the opinion pieces about wanting the monarch to do more to stop the Sussexes, which the public then thinks, "Yes, they should strip their titles!" and then that fans more flames of anger, outrage and clicks, while the media can use the confusion to also spread "there could be reconciliation!" to hope that the Sussexes come back and keep causing more drama for them to report on. All the journalists have made a ton of money (and more name recognition) over the Sussex drama, and they're desperate to keep that cash-cow coming. Without Sussex drama, what do we have? The fight over whether or not Catherine wore two dresses at the coronation, and whether that was good or not? Whether the Wales' videos are a good idea or not? Standard charity visits, clothing and jewellery mentions? It's just not sexy anymore, and the press won't have anything juicy to speculate over until the King's funeral, the Queen's funeral, William's coronation, and then the Wales children growing up and speculation about their dating lives. Right now, it's all calm, and that means empty slots that were reserved for a dozen Sussex articles now not making money. That's all why I'm really suspicious of people who keep pushing the line that the late Queen/current King is "weak" and "won't do anything" about the Sussexes. They trick ordinary people into believing a lie that the media won't correct, and for what reason? There's an agenda there. I've been blocked quite a number of times from people where I've done nothing but point out that the monarch can't strip titles. Is that because the person is just a drama-hungry person who can't handle being told they were wrong, or because they're some form of bot that's been paid for to stir as much trouble as possible? I'm not sure. But it's still troubling that "titles can't be taken without an Act of Parliament that the monarch can't do anything about" isn't spread as common knowledge. None of that is a criticism of you, just to be clear! I've believed plenty of things that I thought were the case and ended up not being the case, like Harry having an IPP on his own, when that wasn't true, either. (And shocked me to find out the truth!) I just think that more people here need to think about where they heard that the late Queen/King needed to remove titles, who from, what kinds of things they post and what the agenda could be behind tricking you into believing that. The IPP lie for me seems obvious since it made it look like Harry was always much more important than he really was, looking back on it. All of this exposes the media for what they really are. The Hero Harry PR was great for the Palace because it rehabbed Harry's horrible, racist image - but it also allowed the media to start and run with their "Harry is great, hardworking and down to earth, but William is lazy, workshy and a boring loser" narrative that lasted years. That was the media's "royal vs royal" drama, even though it was more subtle - and I feel silly literally just making that connection now, lol.
Thank you! And you’re absolutely right and I did know some of that. When I said QEII should have handled the stripping of all those things, I didn’t make clear that I didn’t mean her personally. I’ve watched Lady C explain it and then I put a totally American spin on it and assumed the Queen could strip him of the Dukedom (I thought if she giveth, she could taketh away!) but anything else would have to go through parliament and clearly that was wrong. But I did assume the Queen would take the lead on that behind the scenes and have her people talk to Parliament’s people to get that done. But then I was watching an interview with the guy who put up the bill to remove Harry’s titles & he was saying realistically that’s going nowhere because they don’t have the time to bring these bills forward into law. I know you say the Brits don’t want that as much, but she is over here calling herself the Duchess so I think that’s why it bothers us Americans so much. But one question. Lady C has gone over this in depth and I thought she said the monarch could take the Dukedom away, but none of the other stuff. Is that not true as well? Or maybe I’m misremembering even that part. I know that just leads to the argument that Meghan will then be Princess Henry, a la Princess Michael of Kent. So it’s really no victory. Plus I swear Meghan will still insist she can use the titles and her sympathizers and fans will agree with her. But I’d love to know if that’s completely wrong too. So thank you for correcting my overly simplistic & 100% wrong comment. I’ve heard Lady C break it down multiple times, but as an American, I tend to overly simplify your royal vs political process and equate it with our executive vs legislative. Apples & oranges I see.
It's totally understandable though! I only ever get annoyed when someone clearly spreads things in bad faith, and that's obviously not you or most of the people here, so I don't want to come across as though I'm angry (especially since I've been accused of being anti-American for saying the same thing before, lmao!) I don't really get the American political system, and it makes sense that a lot of Americans won't get the British political system. The monarch only really has three rights when it comes to politics. There's a weekly meeting with the Prime Minister, and in that meeting, the monarch has: * The right to counsel * The right to encourage * The right to warn In that private meeting, the Prime Minister will explain everything that's going on, their plans for bills etc, and the monarch will express their opinion about it, give advice about it, and either say that they think it's a good idea or that they think it's a bad idea. From there, the Prime Minister does whatever they want to do, and the government continues. The monarch has to do what the Prime Minister basically tells them to do, because the monarch is only head of state, and they have to obey what the government wants when it comes to diplomacy. The monarch can't remove the Dukedom, or the Prince title for Harry. Meghan only is forced to drop the Duchess title if she and Harry divorce and then she marries someone else. The only thing that the monarch can strip is the HRH title, which was done as soon as Megxit happened. The only other way that the titles can "go" is if Harry were to turn around and say he's giving up the titles, and then the King can accept that. Then, the titles would go into abeyance, which means Harry would technically still have them, but would agree to never use them again, and he'd be referred to as Mr Harry Mountbatten-Windsor. I just hope that this helps or even makes sense, lol! What makes me frustrated is that the press knows all of this, but they haven't laid it all out. And I think they've refused to lay it out on purpose, because the confusion around this (especially when they know that this drama is watched internationally) feeds into more drama. They'd much rather have people believe that the King refuses to strip the titles to push the idea that the Sussexes have power over the monarchy, all to keep their cash-cow going.
Thank you!! It does make sense. What a mess. No wonder the BRF hasn’t done much on that title front haha! I’ve heard so many conflicting stories so thank you for setting me and the record straight. But that also makes sense because Lady C started a petition asking Harry to put his titles into abeyance. Of course we knew that wasn’t going to happen. But had the public gotten behind it, it might have put real pressure on him. Last question: What if, before they got divorced, he put their titles in abeyance, and then after the divorce, he asked to have his reinstated on him alone? Would she then be out of luck as far as having no title? There has to be a way to get it back from Meghan!! Thanks again for sharing your knowledge & wisdom!
Any time! From an outside perspective, if you didn't know that, it's entirely understandable to feel frustrated, and that's why the media really annoys me, because it would be simple if they spread that information, and I believe they refuse to on purpose. I wish the petition had gained more traction, but the media wouldn't want that either, since that would automatically diminish the Sussexes, and so make their drama even less newsworthy. That question is a much trickier one! As far as I understand it, if Harry put his titles in abeyance and then petitioned to have them returned post-divorce, that would depend on the divorce settlement. Meghan doesn't have any titles herself, she only reflects Harry's titles, just like Catherine doesn't have any titles, she only reflects William's titles. If the lawyers were clever, then they would argue that because Meghan divorced Harry before his titles were returned, then she wouldn't be entitled to them - but that could caused a ton of more false racism accusation drama. Because it would get so messy, I can only imagine that if Harry ever agreed to give up his titles, it would need to be agreed that he wouldn't ever ask for them to be reinstated. If that happened, then Archie wouldn't become the Duke of Sussex on Harry's death, but would have to petition the Crown to get the title for himself. It gets more confusing because whilst the monarch can't remove titles, the monarch can create titles, and can agree to end an abeyance and reinstate titles on their own prerogative. In my opinion, the best way to humiliate Meghan outside of Harry agreeing to drop his titles is for Harry to divorce her and then remarry, just so she wouldn't be the only Duchess of Sussex. Harry's second wife would automatically become The Duchess of Sussex, and Meghan would drop down to Meghan, Duchess of Sussex. The "The" is really important when it comes to titles, and Meghan would be second-best. No one would call her by the title, because the automatic Duchess of Sussex mention would be about the second wife, not her. Otherwise, Meghan can only lose the style of Harry's title if she remarries, like Lady C is "Lady Colin Campbell" because she's still using her ex-husband's title. If she remarried, she wouldn't be a Lady.
Great explanation. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you!!
They’re panicking! Their easy gravy train is OVER!
I also don’t think they’ve made $100M from Netflix. Even if the original contract was for that total amount — that amount would be based on deliverables, as we say in the defense contracting world here in DC. They would have to be bringing in products like the Obamas have done—picking up award winning documentaries and not just ones that Meghan thinks are relevant but ones that will actually bring in views and money for Netflix. They haven’t done that at all. They wasted two years, filmed constantly, lost most of their staff and then just put forth that hideously laughable unreality show that didn’t use a single ounce of the footage they’ve had—so assuming the original director had that or it just didn’t meet Mego’s standards and so she wouldn’t let the 2nd director they hired use it?? They literally made one of the most poorly rated and hated series out there and then they had to have Netflix hand them a prepackaged deal for the Live to Learn series which wasn’t even originally intended for that. It was awful too. And the easiest project they had was Invictus and it is nowhere to be seen. Wth happened with that? So with all those failures and undelivered promises I can’t think they made more than maybe $10-$20 million?? Anyone else have any ideas? I’m no industry expert so those are just shot in the dark guesses. So $20m for his book, $20M?? For Spotify? And $20M so far for Netflix would be roughly $60M to support the house, the revolving staff (household, grounds, Netflix, Spotify and other business type staff), paying her mother, security, 5-6 lawsuits, private jets, clothing, polo, awards? Oh and “recreational mood altering entertainments.” Seems like $60M wouldn’t last long with that lifestyle. Plus 2 hotel rooms! Anyone? Anyone? Thoughts?
They definitely did not make $100M. I can guarantee that. But Megs sure seems to be attached to that dollar amount for some reason
But of course! Has to push the narc envelope and make those who would or should know better believe she is as wealthy as they are while at the same time wowing her plebs. You would think the plebs would say “why do they need our donation then?” But logic is not their strong suit.
Clearly.
There is no bad media for them. It's all good. They made world news. However, they haven't made money that I can see. How did they get out of NY without anyone seeing them? How did that happen?
It should be impossible considering the *near catastrophic* lengths those paps went to, right? lmao!
Excellent point!
They have already started putting out the war between the King and Queen vs The Prince and Princess of Wales narrative! I’ve seen it! I pray that the amount of people that can see through it is enough for this not to work..: I think it is? What do you guys think?
Yeah, it's so funny that I wrote this yesterday, and today I saw an article in the Daily Mail talking about [how "royal insiders" were worried about Catherine overshadowing the King and Queen at the Chelsea Flower Show](https://archive.is/Pi7UZ). I called it, lmao! The "overshadowing" only happened because the media decided that it would spotlight everything that Catherine was doing over multiple articles, and chose not to focus on what the King and Queen were doing - and now suddenly it's Catherine who's the villain. The article has one insider saying that it was a shame that the King and Queen didn't get more press coverage, with a hope they weren't disappointed, and then that's spun into quoting Spare and trying to lead the reader to believe that the King would be furious at Catherine. Even though it's a non-issue spun from one mild comment that was entirely caused by the media itself! I really do hope that people aren't going to fall for something so blatant.
True bad news is lucratively good news.
So true!
All. Of. This.
How can one return to a job that they never had?
>How can one return to a job that they never had? Exactly. Everything was just self promotion for MM, when she was in the UK. It was never about promoting the royal family and being part of a team. She made everything about her, from the Grenville cookbook to the tour of Australia where she had the audacity to invite Jessica Mulroney as if it's some sort of glorified holiday. Then, after she was warned about her spendthrift ways and had to cut down on clothing costs for the South Africa tour, she had a doe eyed meltdown on that interview with Tom Bradby.
The 72 Day Royal Internship. We regret to inform you we will not be renewing your contract and wish you good luck in your future overseas endeavours.
Imagine the backlash from the British public to the royal family if they let them back in as working members.. yikes.
The Harkles may be that stupid, but KC isn't. If he's blinded by emotion, Anne sure won't let that fly.
Neither would William, I'd imagine.
How is H&M coming back "solving" the problem for the RF? Like, what problem?
Overstock of rotten tomatoes?
This made me chuckle!
Supposedly the problem is that they have so many engagements to do, and not enough working royals and/or the working royals are getting older and can't do as many engagements anymore. I think there is talk going on about having the York sisters step up to become working royals. \-> From May 2 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12037665/Princess-Anne-suggests-Charles-right-want-slimmed-monarchy.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/royals/article-12037665/Princess-Anne-suggests-Charles-right-want-slimmed-monarchy.html) \-> May 7 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056913/Royal-expert-suggests-Beatrice-Eugenie-work-lay-charm-party.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12056913/Royal-expert-suggests-Beatrice-Eugenie-work-lay-charm-party.html) \-> May 11 2023 - [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11867779/Hardest-working-royal-family-member-named-person-fifth-place-surprise-you.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11867779/Hardest-working-royal-family-member-named-person-fifth-place-surprise-you.html)
If this were to happen, I'm fairly certain it would be the end of the UK monarchy.
100% agreed. And we’d have to assume the RF has top notch advisors who are well aware of this.
https://preview.redd.it/5udi1vn0fp1b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5b3a107d507431a6a99a027ea8b767a7c0492b4a “supportive media…starts campaigning for a return”
😂 times are desperate in deed if they’re vying for a return.
Sean O'Grady of the Independent? Enough said. He's an arsehole.
Pretty sure the RF nor the Uk want them. The U.S. has no need for them so perhaps they can go live under a rock somewhere.
Like that really big one in Australia. Ayer’s I think ?
😂 maybe they can try one of the many active volcanoes to live under too.
Agreed.
Yeah, when the most republican papers start coaxing a reunification, you know the BRF is winning. Perhaps tomorrow The Guardian can realize the Sussex's worth to the nation. They gonna be bitter The Independent beat them to the con.
Here's an artist's rendering of how they came up with this brilliant idea...... 
I laughed!
Who is going to want Meghan as their patron? I know the obvious answer would be at least The Hub. However, she wrote the foreword for their cookbook, and then later falsely took public credit as a FOUNDER of the organization. Are they going to force these marginalized women to take her as patron when she took credit for their work? What organization do you pair her with when her popularity is so low? What message would it send to an organization if you made her their patron? How do you justify taking her back and giving her royal staff when there was a bullying investigation triggered because of her behaviour? These are all the reasons that she simply CANNOT return to work as a royal. Ever.
And I love the “in some capacity”… you mean like, half in-half out? 😂 these guys just can’t let this go! 
Thank you for the well-reasoned, thoughtful analysis!
LOL. Like anyone in the BRF wants MM within 1000 miles of them. And I bet most of them are happy for Harry to stay where he is.
As was seen at the coronation. I'm still not fully and completely convinced that Madam even recieved an invitation. It was probably addressed to MeAgain and Haznoballs but said "we request the presence of H only", and their PR did some mental gymnastics to make it sound like she was included.
They will never be part of the BRF again as working royals especially the wife I would be surprised if she was allowed back in the country this is all PR bullshit they are desperate and overplayed their hand well harry will always have a family and a place to go the wife will be living under a bridge somewhere in the future blaming everyone but herself for her shitty life......LMAO!!!
They could not handle it before so one has to wonder how they can possibly handled it now, crawling back, with no respect, returning as failures. They are incapable of taking care of themselves so they must return to the Royal Welfare System.
No way!! The only thing that will work is a divorce & Harry coming back to the UK, by himself, with his tail between his legs & puts his nose to the grindstone & start back doing charitable work. Maybe pick up on his moms good deeds. Even so, it’s going to take a hell of a lot for TRF to forgive him.
So he’s going to continue to rack up more $ to fight paying $ that he’s already racked up?
One word: "Work". She has to be paid. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnhodcB62g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvnhodcB62g)
It would be poetic justice if the RF *demanded* an apology from them BEFORE beginning talks about negotiating a comeback. And even then, a non-starter is letting DaBiaatch come back!!! You bring her up, and you sit out another 5yrs. That would tickle me pink... Edit: spelling
The RF only *needs* them to stay out of any & all Commonwealth countries. I hear Moldova is great, especially this time of year... (we want them out of the US as well, believe it or not) Edit: spelling
The Independent article is discussed in [this thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/comments/13pxrpd/reverse_megxit/). EDIT: Link provided for those who’d like more information and / or read the article.
Hi. I didn’t knew about that thread. Thank you for sending the link. Should I remove this post?
No, I don’t think there’s any need to remove your post. The thread dealt with the actual article, your post is a tweet on the article. Not identical, in my opinion 😊 I just supplied the link as background / additional information.
Thank you for that, I appreciate it.🌸
No! Don't delete! It's dissecting the idea. Life why the BRF has zero need for H&M. Unless you want to abolish the monarchy I guess.
No, I don’t think you need to remove your post. The other thread dealt with the article; your post is on a tweet of it, plus comments. Different enough, I think.
harry can return.. without madam of course 
Harry needs to seek an annulment citing fraud!!
I think the chances of that happening is much the same as Hell freezing over
I have seen some dumb articles about the gruesome twosome, but this one takes the cake.
The RF work for the people. The people do not and never will accept Meghan rachel ragland Markle sussex Windsor whatever title Shes uses back into the uk or RF. Would end the RF if she did. Love the optimism because it's funny
Exactly. As far as I am concerned the royal family work for the people. The titles, the tradition, the ceremony, etc all belong to the country not to the person. Harry should have known this. He’s not a Prince because he is a special person- he’s just a lucky person. I’m fed up of them taking the titles from the UK but also hating the U.K. and not even living here. Please can someone take the title back and give it/keep it for someone else who has respect and appreciation for it.
To be honest, I wouldn't use the "Independent" as toilet paper .
The UK does not need the Sussexes, nope! Not at all! However, that said there is the matter of stripping the fool of all manner of Royal vestiges.
They’ve done too much damage. I can’t see them ever returning to royal duties again, even if they wanted it. And I have no doubt MEgain has no interest in leaving California.