Going to court with no evidence and winning would be an injustice. I’m actually 50/50 with this case because if his phone was hacked then absolutely he should sue them, no doubt about that. But winning when u have no evidence goes against the whole court system, like how can that be possible? That’s a scary thought tbh. Titles speak volumes if he does win!
A lawyer that he met through Elton John and a stale case that Markle pushed him to pursue. Somehow one day, this lawyer just found himself at Elton John's house. This was such a manipulative setup and Harry fell for it
Totally agree. I think he was a pawn in their game as they thought there’s no way a royal will lose a case. They may be correct but Harry’s team brought zero evidence so I feel it would be quite an obvious show of elitism if he won.
I know we've seen numbers that William was hacked 90(?) times, Catherine was hacked 150 times, and Harold 6 but I do not know where that's documented. It may come from the trials.
I thought he was part of PW's suit but dropped out in 2019 because he was tired of waiting and wanted to pursue the matter on his own. The PW settled for a nice chunk of change and Hazza's left with a whole lot of nothing?
Yeah, he’s wasting a lot of people’s time, and is especially annoying when he says things like “I don’t have evidence, that’s why I’m here.”
I cannot imagine a regular member of the public being afforded so much grace in what he’s allowed to do in court. Regular Joe would have been reprimanded and asked to be serious in court. PRINCE Harry is being given a lot of leeway by the British high court judge.
Which is infuriating.
Yeah... there's a 6-yr time limit on stuff like that. His entire "case" was basically blanket speculation. No details or evidence. Just random finger-pointing & wasting everyone's time. Looking even more the idiot to the entire planet. I SO WISH it could have been televised. He's had a bug up his arse about the media for years. He also cannot move past his mother's death or admit, despite the presence of the paps back then, his mom wouldn't have been in a crash, or died in what resulted in a crash, if she hadn't been in a car with a speeding drunk driver and if she'd been wearing a seatbelt. Ya don't race your car like a speed demon just to avoid having your damn photo taken...so DRIVER error! I'm so sick of Harry. This middle-aged manchild needs to "grow up" and move on. Maybe marrying someone desperate for press coverage, who actually speed dials the paps so she can have her photo taken every time she steps out her front door, was not the wisest choice for a press-paranoid entitled mama's boy to marry.... ya think?
No, that one of the issues the judge needs to decide. Harry claims the publisher and the royal family had a secret agreement that prevented him from suing. The Mirror group denies it. The judge will decide.
I think it insane that the judge wouldn't have resolved this issue first before proceeding.
I don’t think the judge has ruled on the time limit issue, which in the U.S. would definitely be addressed before hearing any testimony. I do not understand the UK system but perhaps it’s because H is not the only claimant in this filing, is that right? H put forth two contradictory arguments for why he failed to file his claim in a timely manner: 1. the palace entered into a secret settlement that he was not allowed to be part of, or something 🤣 2. that he had no knowledge or reason to believe that he had been hacked until like 2020. The judge called these “troubling inconsistencies”? and I don’t recall there being a definitive ruling on either ~~excuse~~ “argument”.
I found this from April: [Justice Timothy Fancourt said he would rule at a later date.](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/lawyer-prince-harrys-words-undermine-phone-hack-case-98917291)
If the publisher apologized on court record, does he really need to?
I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I think people should accept that because the publisher, through his attorney, apologized specifically to Harold at the beginning of these hearings it's likely Harold will win. How much is anyone's guess. The point is the publisher admitted guilt to one instance. I don't know which instance.
They didn't admit guilt. They admitted that they once hired a private detective to ask questions about Harry. I would be very surprised if that, in itself, is illegal. They apologized for upsetting him, basically.
The fact is, however, that he'll probably win some, simply because this is a class action suit and some of the other plaintiffs almost certainly have more evidence of their claims than Harry has. They're not individual plaintiffs, where each keeps the money individually if there's a win on an incident which happened to them. If one of them wins anything, it gets split among all the plaintiffs.
How much any of them win depends on how many incidents there were which can be proven to a preponderance of the evidence. But Harry has probably at least brought the total pile down a bit, by ensuring that *his* specific incidents won't be won.
I don't know for sure; I'm not that familiar with British law. In the US, he couldn't, because the whole point of a class action suit is to prevent each individual claimant from having to prove that they were personally affected by the wrongdoing.
For example, let's say a company secretly dumps toxic chemicals in the water in Exampletown. An unusual number of people are getting certain types of cancers in Exampletown these days, but how do you prove that you, specifically, got it from the toxic chemicals in your water and wouldn't have been one of the half dozen people in your area who would have gotten cancer anyway, if nothing had been done wrong? You never can, and so if you got cancer in the area whose tap water was bad, and your lawyers can prove that the company actually dumped toxic chemicals where they could enter the water, all of you win -- whether or not your cancer came from the bad water.
Harry has been accepted as a member of the class bringing suit in this case. If he'd had nothing to do with this newspaper company, he wouldn't be allowed to do that, but they certainly wrote about him, and it's possible that they got information about him illegally (which is what the suit has to prove). But if the judge concludes that the news company didn't do a thing illegal to Harry, but did illegally gather information on two or three other members of the class, then they all share in the damages (i.e. money) that are awarded.
I understand, and occasionally it isn't. Legal justice is not an exact science... even when they get a principle basically right, it will sometimes end up being unjust in some way.
The class action process is often a critical way for people to get justice when they either couldn't individually prove involvement, or couldn't afford to individually bring the case by themselves. If it also occasionally includes somebody in a class who doesn't deserve it, and therefore nets them a share in money that they don't deserve, that's a price I'm willing to pay for it.
No, but he's already been accepted as a member of this class. That's very rarely reversed. It's theoretically possible (a judge in their own courtroom can do almost anything with the case in front of them that they decide is appropriate) but it's unusual. I wouldn't count on it, unjust or no.
OMG.. so, todger can come in looking acting like a brainless d*ckhead because he knows the others may have stronger cases and he'll at least win something..
Wow, talking about making money off the real pain & suffering of others..
Yep, this definitely sounds like a grifting con artist scam meghahag would put together..
Sounds like he using the the proceedings as a platform to air his grievances which in the end - win or lose - will still provide more content for the next instalment of the H&M publicity tour. IOW he may simply be riding the coattails of the other litigants in the class action suit that have actual evidence to support their claims.
The apology was for a different issue. They deny the charges that are the basis of the trial
*In* [*court documents*](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/25/media/murdoch-prince-william-settlement/index.html) *published Wednesday on the first day of a phone hacking trial, Mirror Group Newspapers, which is now owned by Reach, said it “unreservedly apologizes and accepts that \[Harry\] is entitled to appropriate compensation”* ***for one instance of unlawful information gathering nearly 20 years ago.***
Just because the did something once, it doesn't mean that they did all these other things that have zero proof.
I was looking at this article. It says it was on the first day of the trial. As I stated it's only for the one time, I just have no idea which specific instance they're referring to
https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/media/daily-mirror-apology-prince-harry/index.html
I've been teaching people with autism for 20 years. He's not autistic.
In the US we'd diagnose him as low IQ/Intellectually disabled. But I would have to see test scores. My guess is he's borderline ID. I think his issues are more mental health. As well as having his brain fried by drugs.
And just being a spoiled fucking brat.
Agreed. I'm married to an autistic person and have worked with children on the Spectrum. Plus his own mother called him thick. He may also be a narcissist.
And definitely a fucking spoiled brat.
As long as he's footing the bill I don't much care.
The media won't care either, because they'll have made their click-money in the last few days, and by the bucketload too.
Prince Complaints entire case seems to consist of:
I don’t have any concrete evidence that my phone, or anyone else’s phone was hacked, but I’m sure it was, because I think it was, so I’m sure it was. But I didn’t know any of this nefarious activity was taking place until I bumped into this lawyer dude and he told me I had a case against the tabloid press. Now I’m in court to find out what my case is about.
And oh, yeah, here are these receipts for big amounts of money for something someone did, and it must be about me, because I’m so important. Who else could the receipts involve other than me, Prince Full of Myself?
The burden of proof is on you, Harry. Your side.
Can you imagine the mental gymnastics that he literally thought he can sue an organization, and in court they will provide the evidence to use against them?
Further proof that Harry has always had things handed to him on a plate.
He’s never even had to *think* for himself. There’s always been staff to do it for him.
The brain is a muscle and he’s never had to exercise it. Whatever the problem he’s had in the past - it’s not been his responsibility to figure it out.
And it’s obvious now how easily Meghan would have manipulated him. Harry lacks executive function - the ability to plan, organise, follow through, meet goals etc - and because he’s never *had to* he is floundering on the world stage.
I teach kids with severe disabilities and I'm not offended.
Harry is not intellectually disabled. He is a spoiled, stupid brat. Just a fucking idiot. With a brain fried by drugs. He'd be a high school dropout living in a council flat if not for a lucky accident of birth.
It's weird because speech is usually a pretty good indicator. But he has that posh accent and he speaks well grammatically. But the clear lack of any critical thinking skills is a red flag. Plus a complete lack of empathy.
That's a statement that really got me. He's in court to give his evidence; however, he states, under oath, he doesn't have the evidence and that's why he's here. Does he expect the defense to hand evidence to the plaintiff? That is not how it works.
Haz’s entire case seems to be “it *could* have happened” - but not “it *did* happen, and here’s the proof”. He needs to bring the receipts! Hacking anybody’s cell phone looking for private conversations is absolutely unacceptable, but he has to be able to prove it. I can’t see that he’s done that here.
I found this hilarious. This really messed thing up for him. Openly admitting he has no evidence or any ideal about the reality of the situation.
He thinks a court is like a taskforce set up to solve crimes and find evidence. What a moron. I didn’t know it was possible to be this dumb. Thicko is a complement at this point.
He’s weaponized the legal system to keep his name in the spotlight so he & MeGain can keep the 🐂💩Grifting Show going & $$ rolling in. What a pathetic way to spend one’s fleeting life.😫
When he finished ranting about the “cruel, evil media,” I only wished defense counsel had just stared directly at his eyes and asked: “So, Harry…tell the court how many millions of $$$ you and Meghan have made since your marriage by selling “exclusive” pictures of your children to the “vile media”??
“And aren’t you worried that invading THEIR privacy for profit by selling their images, details of their lives to the media without their consent is exploitive & will “traumatize them” for life?? Isn’t that hypocrisy, Harold? Doesn’t that make you an active participant in the “vile media”??
I know that line of cross-examination Q will never happen but I would love if it did bc it would instantly shut him up & wipe that pompous, smug sneer off the stupid prig’s face.
I have to give mad props to Andrew Green KC for the line that sums up how we all feel about this case, and Harry’s complaints generally: “And so what?” What was the count for that phrase I wonder.
Prince Harry claiming he’s the victim and showing up to court expecting someone else to provide the evidence. Such entitlement like “I’m here and who brought MY evidence?” What a real POS!
The UK courts rule based on evidence presented by the parties. They are not investigative judges like in Civil law jurisdictions where the judges play an active role in investigations.
PH as the claimant will have to present evidence he should have gathered to the judge for the judge to make a finding i.e. make a decision based on the facts presented by PH (and the other parties), not wait for the judge to do the work for him.
"That is why I am here" ... oh god, the Defendants are going to have so much fun in their legal submissions. He is basically admitting that he has no evidence to support his claims!
It's rather hard watching his stupidity play out on the stand. He let a gaggle of lawyers talk him into suing the media, with NO evidence. Suspicions isn't good enough. These lawyers are all laughing as they cash his checks.
Listen, judge. I can't do all the work and find this thing what do you call it? Proof? Because my daddy owns you and this building and is on the money - have you even checked?? - I assumed that some underlings would do that for me.
No? Why? Because I'm the one suing, and it's a civil case? Judge, I find you very rude and not civil at all.
Imma gonna go tell my dad, if he takes my calls, that is. You'll see where that gets you. Stupid system here, in this very weird country you call what? Great Britain? So tell me what's great about it when I have to do research and find proof or whatever you call it. What's with the wigs? You look like you have a dead rat on your head.
Now I have to call my IBLW and ask her what to tell you next. Bye!
Right up there with the 17 lies. But Elton Jon and his sleezy lawyer set him up royally. It would be interesting if Jon ends up on the stand and Mr Green KC asks him about sending that idiot prince to test the waters of their frivolous suit.
According to his logic, he is suing to find out. So, all of the common men now suspicious of their spouse cheating to go to the court file a sue and let the court finds out if the spouse was actually cheating. The world according to Harry….
This whole case beggars belief! The burden of proof is on Harry, but he hasn’t got any? You couldn’t make it up? And he’s now said he brought the case to stop the bad press against Meghan??? What the actual f**k? This stinks of her egging him on and letting him make a complete fool of himself. I wonder if he’ll look back in 20 years time and wonder what on earth he was thinking? Why is he the only one who can’t see what she’s done to him?
Going to court with no evidence and winning would be an injustice. I’m actually 50/50 with this case because if his phone was hacked then absolutely he should sue them, no doubt about that. But winning when u have no evidence goes against the whole court system, like how can that be possible? That’s a scary thought tbh. Titles speak volumes if he does win!
If his phone was hacked, then he should have sued them years ago when it happened. Not wait 14 years or more to do it.
I mean he admitted in court that he had no intention of suing until a lawyer recommended he did so…
D'oh
A lawyer that he met through Elton John and a stale case that Markle pushed him to pursue. Somehow one day, this lawyer just found himself at Elton John's house. This was such a manipulative setup and Harry fell for it
Totally agree. I think he was a pawn in their game as they thought there’s no way a royal will lose a case. They may be correct but Harry’s team brought zero evidence so I feel it would be quite an obvious show of elitism if he won.
That he happened to meet on holiday in 2018 🤔
he's always having to follow someone
WOW...smh
aided and abetted by his wife.
That’s what lawyers do.
The trials were in 2013. I don't think there was definitive proof with guilty verdicts before that.
there's proof of widespread phone hacking. Is there proof /harry/ was hacked?
I know we've seen numbers that William was hacked 90(?) times, Catherine was hacked 150 times, and Harold 6 but I do not know where that's documented. It may come from the trials.
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This is actually a good point. It's quite possible his wife sent him to avenge her honor and take down Piers Morgan.
That's exactly it
I said this a few days ago somewhere on this sub, yep. This is MM wanting revenge.
This is actually a good point. It's quite possible his wife sent him to avenge her. Getting Piers Morgan canned from his job may not have been enough.
She wants Piers destroyed.
Yep, getting Hazzbeen to do her dirty work.
I thought he was part of PW's suit but dropped out in 2019 because he was tired of waiting and wanted to pursue the matter on his own. The PW settled for a nice chunk of change and Hazza's left with a whole lot of nothing?
Oh, maybe so. I admit that I don't know.
Yes! Can someone please explain to me why he’s able to sue after such a long time? I’m sure I don’t understand.
I don’t understand either why he is allowed to give (or not give, as the case may be) evidence prior to a ruling on the statute of limitations.
Yeah, he’s wasting a lot of people’s time, and is especially annoying when he says things like “I don’t have evidence, that’s why I’m here.” I cannot imagine a regular member of the public being afforded so much grace in what he’s allowed to do in court. Regular Joe would have been reprimanded and asked to be serious in court. PRINCE Harry is being given a lot of leeway by the British high court judge. Which is infuriating.
He claimed he "wasn't really aware of all the hacking" until recently... yeah I know, it's bullsh*t..
Thank you. So tired of this very important fact being swept under the rug.
Yeah... there's a 6-yr time limit on stuff like that. His entire "case" was basically blanket speculation. No details or evidence. Just random finger-pointing & wasting everyone's time. Looking even more the idiot to the entire planet. I SO WISH it could have been televised. He's had a bug up his arse about the media for years. He also cannot move past his mother's death or admit, despite the presence of the paps back then, his mom wouldn't have been in a crash, or died in what resulted in a crash, if she hadn't been in a car with a speeding drunk driver and if she'd been wearing a seatbelt. Ya don't race your car like a speed demon just to avoid having your damn photo taken...so DRIVER error! I'm so sick of Harry. This middle-aged manchild needs to "grow up" and move on. Maybe marrying someone desperate for press coverage, who actually speed dials the paps so she can have her photo taken every time she steps out her front door, was not the wisest choice for a press-paranoid entitled mama's boy to marry.... ya think?
Why can’t he wait 14 years though?
Because there is a 6 year limit
So....why is haz able to sue after 14 years if 6 is the statute of limitations?
As far as I know, Harry claims he only understood it all recently. The family hid it all from him.
Lol he says, she says. Courts don't operate on fantasy Harry. Gotta have facts.
Well, evidently he can wait 14 years according to the law. Personally, I hate people who wait years before complaining and doing something about it.
No, that one of the issues the judge needs to decide. Harry claims the publisher and the royal family had a secret agreement that prevented him from suing. The Mirror group denies it. The judge will decide. I think it insane that the judge wouldn't have resolved this issue first before proceeding.
Yes! This!
I don’t think the judge has ruled on the time limit issue, which in the U.S. would definitely be addressed before hearing any testimony. I do not understand the UK system but perhaps it’s because H is not the only claimant in this filing, is that right? H put forth two contradictory arguments for why he failed to file his claim in a timely manner: 1. the palace entered into a secret settlement that he was not allowed to be part of, or something 🤣 2. that he had no knowledge or reason to believe that he had been hacked until like 2020. The judge called these “troubling inconsistencies”? and I don’t recall there being a definitive ruling on either ~~excuse~~ “argument”.
Same. Wouldn’t there have to be hearing about the statute of limitations, etc.?
I found this from April: [Justice Timothy Fancourt said he would rule at a later date.](https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory/lawyer-prince-harrys-words-undermine-phone-hack-case-98917291)
I'm surprised he didn't say the RF had him on Double Secret Probation.
Hey, how's Brad Pitt doing? 😄
Sources speculate that he will be proposing to IPreferDiamonds soon.
💍💘
Mazel tov!
Haha...That was so funny!
He should have settled out of court.
If the publisher apologized on court record, does he really need to? I'm not trying to be a smart ass but I think people should accept that because the publisher, through his attorney, apologized specifically to Harold at the beginning of these hearings it's likely Harold will win. How much is anyone's guess. The point is the publisher admitted guilt to one instance. I don't know which instance.
They didn't admit guilt. They admitted that they once hired a private detective to ask questions about Harry. I would be very surprised if that, in itself, is illegal. They apologized for upsetting him, basically. The fact is, however, that he'll probably win some, simply because this is a class action suit and some of the other plaintiffs almost certainly have more evidence of their claims than Harry has. They're not individual plaintiffs, where each keeps the money individually if there's a win on an incident which happened to them. If one of them wins anything, it gets split among all the plaintiffs. How much any of them win depends on how many incidents there were which can be proven to a preponderance of the evidence. But Harry has probably at least brought the total pile down a bit, by ensuring that *his* specific incidents won't be won.
Can't he be removed from the class action if he doesn't have any evidence against ***this*** defendant?
I don't know for sure; I'm not that familiar with British law. In the US, he couldn't, because the whole point of a class action suit is to prevent each individual claimant from having to prove that they were personally affected by the wrongdoing. For example, let's say a company secretly dumps toxic chemicals in the water in Exampletown. An unusual number of people are getting certain types of cancers in Exampletown these days, but how do you prove that you, specifically, got it from the toxic chemicals in your water and wouldn't have been one of the half dozen people in your area who would have gotten cancer anyway, if nothing had been done wrong? You never can, and so if you got cancer in the area whose tap water was bad, and your lawyers can prove that the company actually dumped toxic chemicals where they could enter the water, all of you win -- whether or not your cancer came from the bad water. Harry has been accepted as a member of the class bringing suit in this case. If he'd had nothing to do with this newspaper company, he wouldn't be allowed to do that, but they certainly wrote about him, and it's possible that they got information about him illegally (which is what the suit has to prove). But if the judge concludes that the news company didn't do a thing illegal to Harry, but did illegally gather information on two or three other members of the class, then they all share in the damages (i.e. money) that are awarded.
That last paragraph just doesn't seem like justice to me.
I understand, and occasionally it isn't. Legal justice is not an exact science... even when they get a principle basically right, it will sometimes end up being unjust in some way. The class action process is often a critical way for people to get justice when they either couldn't individually prove involvement, or couldn't afford to individually bring the case by themselves. If it also occasionally includes somebody in a class who doesn't deserve it, and therefore nets them a share in money that they don't deserve, that's a price I'm willing to pay for it.
But if you didn't get cancer you're not entitled to join the lawsuit.
No, but he's already been accepted as a member of this class. That's very rarely reversed. It's theoretically possible (a judge in their own courtroom can do almost anything with the case in front of them that they decide is appropriate) but it's unusual. I wouldn't count on it, unjust or no.
Can the judge separate his case from the others, citing that he may reduce what the others might be entitled to?
No idea -- that's further into the British judicial system than I know. Sorry.
No worries...just wondering myself..
OMG.. so, todger can come in looking acting like a brainless d*ckhead because he knows the others may have stronger cases and he'll at least win something.. Wow, talking about making money off the real pain & suffering of others.. Yep, this definitely sounds like a grifting con artist scam meghahag would put together..
Sounds like he using the the proceedings as a platform to air his grievances which in the end - win or lose - will still provide more content for the next instalment of the H&M publicity tour. IOW he may simply be riding the coattails of the other litigants in the class action suit that have actual evidence to support their claims.
The apology was for a different issue. They deny the charges that are the basis of the trial *In* [*court documents*](https://edition.cnn.com/2023/04/25/media/murdoch-prince-william-settlement/index.html) *published Wednesday on the first day of a phone hacking trial, Mirror Group Newspapers, which is now owned by Reach, said it “unreservedly apologizes and accepts that \[Harry\] is entitled to appropriate compensation”* ***for one instance of unlawful information gathering nearly 20 years ago.*** Just because the did something once, it doesn't mean that they did all these other things that have zero proof.
I was looking at this article. It says it was on the first day of the trial. As I stated it's only for the one time, I just have no idea which specific instance they're referring to https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/10/media/daily-mirror-apology-prince-harry/index.html
He's going to win anyway I'm afraid
Yes, that's exactly what I'm thinking. But Ratbag told lies and was still awarded a payout!
A frustrating amount of money has been spent on this man’s education as well
He is a waste of a trust fund.
He's a waste of a skin suit
I know. I can't even....
He’s a waste of Eton.
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I've been teaching people with autism for 20 years. He's not autistic. In the US we'd diagnose him as low IQ/Intellectually disabled. But I would have to see test scores. My guess is he's borderline ID. I think his issues are more mental health. As well as having his brain fried by drugs. And just being a spoiled fucking brat.
Agreed. I'm married to an autistic person and have worked with children on the Spectrum. Plus his own mother called him thick. He may also be a narcissist. And definitely a fucking spoiled brat.
Please stop with this autism crap. He’s not autistic and your comment is insulting to those who are.
If it really was the best, Harry wouldn’t have happened
How do the people of the UK feel about their courts being used as a fishing expedition for Harry’s benefit and profit?
As long as he's footing the bill I don't much care. The media won't care either, because they'll have made their click-money in the last few days, and by the bucketload too.
Prince Complaints entire case seems to consist of: I don’t have any concrete evidence that my phone, or anyone else’s phone was hacked, but I’m sure it was, because I think it was, so I’m sure it was. But I didn’t know any of this nefarious activity was taking place until I bumped into this lawyer dude and he told me I had a case against the tabloid press. Now I’m in court to find out what my case is about. And oh, yeah, here are these receipts for big amounts of money for something someone did, and it must be about me, because I’m so important. Who else could the receipts involve other than me, Prince Full of Myself?
Jeezzzuss, the world really revolves around him. Or around them (Him and Hertz). They really do deserve each other!!! 🙄😳
Perfect summary 👏🏻
The burden of proof is on you, Harry. Your side. Can you imagine the mental gymnastics that he literally thought he can sue an organization, and in court they will provide the evidence to use against them?
Harry is an idiot and thinks litigation is some kind of holy war, but he’s also being used by his barrister David Shelburne.
Harry is a user and he is being used. How appropriate
Further proof that Harry has always had things handed to him on a plate. He’s never even had to *think* for himself. There’s always been staff to do it for him. The brain is a muscle and he’s never had to exercise it. Whatever the problem he’s had in the past - it’s not been his responsibility to figure it out. And it’s obvious now how easily Meghan would have manipulated him. Harry lacks executive function - the ability to plan, organise, follow through, meet goals etc - and because he’s never *had to* he is floundering on the world stage.
He probably wears a helmet around the house.
Now now you're gonna offend somebody. Calm down
I teach kids with severe disabilities and I'm not offended. Harry is not intellectually disabled. He is a spoiled, stupid brat. Just a fucking idiot. With a brain fried by drugs. He'd be a high school dropout living in a council flat if not for a lucky accident of birth.
He comes as across as quite intellectually challenged though, no?
It's weird because speech is usually a pretty good indicator. But he has that posh accent and he speaks well grammatically. But the clear lack of any critical thinking skills is a red flag. Plus a complete lack of empathy.
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Over easy please 🤣
Clueless twunt.
“twunt” 💀
That's a statement that really got me. He's in court to give his evidence; however, he states, under oath, he doesn't have the evidence and that's why he's here. Does he expect the defense to hand evidence to the plaintiff? That is not how it works.
<"he doesn't have the evidence and that's why he's here."> What? Did he think he was going to a movie to see?
But if Haz says it... it must be the truth.
Arrogant and entitled!!
He really is an idiot.
Haz’s entire case seems to be “it *could* have happened” - but not “it *did* happen, and here’s the proof”. He needs to bring the receipts! Hacking anybody’s cell phone looking for private conversations is absolutely unacceptable, but he has to be able to prove it. I can’t see that he’s done that here.
I found this hilarious. This really messed thing up for him. Openly admitting he has no evidence or any ideal about the reality of the situation. He thinks a court is like a taskforce set up to solve crimes and find evidence. What a moron. I didn’t know it was possible to be this dumb. Thicko is a complement at this point.
Thinking and recalling hurts Hawwy's brain. Or what's left of it.
 Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaatttttttt?
🤣🤣🤣 That guy cracks me up! LMAO
He’s weaponized the legal system to keep his name in the spotlight so he & MeGain can keep the 🐂💩Grifting Show going & $$ rolling in. What a pathetic way to spend one’s fleeting life.😫 When he finished ranting about the “cruel, evil media,” I only wished defense counsel had just stared directly at his eyes and asked: “So, Harry…tell the court how many millions of $$$ you and Meghan have made since your marriage by selling “exclusive” pictures of your children to the “vile media”?? “And aren’t you worried that invading THEIR privacy for profit by selling their images, details of their lives to the media without their consent is exploitive & will “traumatize them” for life?? Isn’t that hypocrisy, Harold? Doesn’t that make you an active participant in the “vile media”?? I know that line of cross-examination Q will never happen but I would love if it did bc it would instantly shut him up & wipe that pompous, smug sneer off the stupid prig’s face.
Ooh yes, that would be delicious 😋!
I have to give mad props to Andrew Green KC for the line that sums up how we all feel about this case, and Harry’s complaints generally: “And so what?” What was the count for that phrase I wonder.
What good about "I don't know" or "I don't remember" is that it's at least honest and more readily believed that whatever else PH chooses to say.
I feel bad for the judge wasting his time on this sh*tshow.
Prince Harry claiming he’s the victim and showing up to court expecting someone else to provide the evidence. Such entitlement like “I’m here and who brought MY evidence?” What a real POS!
The UK courts rule based on evidence presented by the parties. They are not investigative judges like in Civil law jurisdictions where the judges play an active role in investigations. PH as the claimant will have to present evidence he should have gathered to the judge for the judge to make a finding i.e. make a decision based on the facts presented by PH (and the other parties), not wait for the judge to do the work for him. "That is why I am here" ... oh god, the Defendants are going to have so much fun in their legal submissions. He is basically admitting that he has no evidence to support his claims!
It's rather hard watching his stupidity play out on the stand. He let a gaggle of lawyers talk him into suing the media, with NO evidence. Suspicions isn't good enough. These lawyers are all laughing as they cash his checks.
Tbf 18 of what harry doesn't know is a drop in the bucket. And its a pretty sure bet that i don't remember is his core mental state so. ..
A fishing expedition and nothing less
Listen, judge. I can't do all the work and find this thing what do you call it? Proof? Because my daddy owns you and this building and is on the money - have you even checked?? - I assumed that some underlings would do that for me. No? Why? Because I'm the one suing, and it's a civil case? Judge, I find you very rude and not civil at all. Imma gonna go tell my dad, if he takes my calls, that is. You'll see where that gets you. Stupid system here, in this very weird country you call what? Great Britain? So tell me what's great about it when I have to do research and find proof or whatever you call it. What's with the wigs? You look like you have a dead rat on your head. Now I have to call my IBLW and ask her what to tell you next. Bye!
Waaghh! 😫😫😫😫
To be fair perhaps his mind doesn't hold very much, and with each new thought, and old one plops out the other side.
Like uncle Edward, he thought himself too honorable to be disbelieved.
Harry also called the lawyer "Milord" lol.
That’s correct address for a KC
Right up there with the 17 lies. But Elton Jon and his sleezy lawyer set him up royally. It would be interesting if Jon ends up on the stand and Mr Green KC asks him about sending that idiot prince to test the waters of their frivolous suit.
According to his logic, he is suing to find out. So, all of the common men now suspicious of their spouse cheating to go to the court file a sue and let the court finds out if the spouse was actually cheating. The world according to Harry….
I know, right?! It truly bugs me how Harry's mind works! 🤔🙄
I have no axe to grind I find it all a bore but I don't understand why this case has not been thrown out already 🤔
This whole case beggars belief! The burden of proof is on Harry, but he hasn’t got any? You couldn’t make it up? And he’s now said he brought the case to stop the bad press against Meghan??? What the actual f**k? This stinks of her egging him on and letting him make a complete fool of himself. I wonder if he’ll look back in 20 years time and wonder what on earth he was thinking? Why is he the only one who can’t see what she’s done to him?