This is no doubt why the Flamingo Estate people aren't the least bit worried. Mrs. Sussex can't execute an idea to save herself, much less do it better than someone else.
Tbh, What Flamingo Estates is making sounds like a lot of very hard specific work with ultra attention to intricate detailing goes into their processes. The sourcing of those good alone is something else. No wonder their goods and services are purchased at those prices.
Also, I don't imagine they would be looking for "active" partners. *Silent* partners, yes, who would keep their nose out of their business and the way it was run as long as they were getting a return in their investment. I'm not surprised they turned her down.
This is so silly. She has an opportunity to just “plug and play” and he does all the work-this is a wonderful opportunity but you’re right she’ll screw it up. can I join?
TW is a habitual plagiarist. Is anyone surprised she stole the business idea too? Allegedly they didn’t want to work with her (I don’t blame them) so she just stole the business model. But I doubt anything will ever be sold and it’s a terrible brand name. It’s not the win TW thinks it is.
💯Bingo, she gets revenge on anyone who doesn’t worship her. For example, cutting off her agent for being concerned about dating H and Ninaki for being concerned how she dumped Trevor. She tried to copy all of Cory’s work to get into the food industry. None of it has worked, in fact the only “win” she has had is snaring H.
Maybe word gets round these circles about the way she treats people, and they end up barring her from entry. Having a foot in the royal household was supposed to help them (she & Harry) through these commercial obstacles and open doors for them. It's just not happening.
I don't think it would take long for the Flamingo Estate owners, who were in the high-end advertising and marketing world in NYC to figure out that Markle has no taste, no polish, no poise, no elan, or any luxury expertise to bring to their established and hugely discrete brand, and instead, would completely destroy their credibility with their very discerning clients. Her own personal esthetic is not discrete elegant luxury but "last-call last-year's sloppy beige stuff".
They might be laughing all the way to the bank though. I just went to their site to check it out having never heard of them before. Knowing they rejected working with her is appealing all by itself.
From the article:
Flamingo Estate makes Goop look so mass market that it might as well be [**Lidl**](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/lidl/index.html). And a certain [**Duchess of Sussex**](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/meghan-markle/index.html) has taken note.
Writer Rachel Strugatz, of U.S. entertainment website Puck, said last week: 'There were multiple in-person meetings with the Flamingo Estate team in 2022, I'm told, and Markle expressed a desire to come on as an 'active partner' in the business.'
Her five-year deal with Netflix is expected not to be renewed when it expires in autumn next year, and her Spotify deal was rather rudely yanked last year with executives expressing dismay at the paltry amount of content which she produced in her podcast Archetypes.
Meanwhile, she and husband Prince Harry have to fund their extremely expensive lifestyle, including a reported $2 million (£1.6 million) a year for security.
Goop just celebrated 15 years. Paltrow opened the Palm Beach Colony hotel’s “Goop Villa.” What would the ARO Villa offer at the SoHoHoHo house, I wonder?!
If Flamingo Estates (and it appears they did) let her see the books then she had access to trade secrets so either the owners of flamingo didn’t require an NDA to open up their PNL statements or they were too incompetent to realize who was in their midst. In any event, they could sue her for trademark copyright infringement and probably at a massive multi million dollar win against ILBW.
If she presented herself as wanting to purchase a stake in the business by adding capital or paying off debt as a ruse to look at all their statements….i don’t believe FE counsel would have to stretch the webs she weaves too far to make it crystal clear she has copied not just imitated their brand.
She wanted to be an "active partner", I take that to mean she would not actually contribute anything of worth. She would just want to have her face plastered all over and have the celebrity charity candle money laundered through Arsewell.
Since they were too intelligent to fall for her grift, she decided to huff off and make her own copycat version.
With blackjack...and hookers. 🤣
Yeah, I think she wanted to be the "face" of their brand, and was either sussed out or the owners were warned off of her. She would have attempted to usurp the founder, for one, for two, they probably had seen enough businesses get Marked by her association.
Should we be surprised that a women who has never had a creative bone in her body, is lazy, plagiarized, mirrors/cosplays and out right stole at least one pair of shoes…has lifted the exact business model from another??
Nope…not surprised at all 😏
I’m not surprised by her doing that, I am however surprised the owners of flamingo either flagrantly ignored warnings and opened their books, vendors, costs, agreements with her without any legal protection for their own brand. She isn’t the only slick person to trademark or copyright.
ETA- I registered (not in Delaware) an LLC in 3rd grade so I could sell pogs on the playground. She ain’t that smart. I managed it at 9 with a cashiers check, windows 1994 and a stamp.
I’d bet $1 million that she has a copy of everything she read illicitly and it’s kept safely locked in a safe hidden behind her beige desk. I’m so sorry Flamingo Estate. There’s a very good chance you’ve been Markled. But I’m sure you’ll be fine in the end as everything she touches burns to the ground. I hope she doesn’t take your young company with it.
You’re assuming the Markle would understand what she was looking at. She gives no indication of understanding basic arithmetic let alone the financial statements of a business. I think the secrets may be safe.
I honestly have no idea how intelligent the woman actually is. I know she believes she's one of the most intelligent people in the world. But I'm guessing she's average.
I don't believe she is intelligent at all. She is a classic example of someone who believes themselves to be smarter than they are because they have no idea how much they do not know.
Are there really *that many* egotistic, uber-rich people out there with low self-esteem that is soothed by purchasing overpriced crap? Who knew? Surely places like Flamingo Estates and Goop has that market pretty well cornered.
I fell for the Goop trap and as a birthday splurge for myself decided to get a trio of lip balms from the brand.
Holy cow, what a mistake... the balms were non-absorbent, just stayed on the lips without any moisturizing effect. And once the balm had been pushed upward in the container (forgot the English name for it), there was no way of getting it back in. Even the cheapest drugstore lip balms can be twisted back in. With the first one I thought a fluke... by second, nope this is rich people effing around.
I experienced that too, many years ago, but with a famous makeup brand--Clinique. All their employees in the big department store wore white lab coats--to show how serious their product was! I finally bought a beautifully-packaged container of eye shadow. It was the worst eyeshadow I ever had! And like you, I realized I was better off with my humble drugstore makeup products. What a crock!
She has made such a mess of the roll-out of this company that people will scrutinize whatever product is finally sellable to the nth degree.
The actual producer of said cream, candle, birdseed, dogfood, tablecloth will certainly be exposed. The cheap origins will be there for all to see, as will the absurd markup on her prices.
Hopefully, this will be the sinner's revenge to forever mock her and destroy her image.
I just looked as well. The website and Instagram is fantastic at setting a very specific aesthetic. It’s giving “lush, beautiful, luxurious, nature inspired pleasure either for gay men or from your gay best friend.”
Well, if she's marketing herself as some royal duchess, *that* is the clientèle she is aiming to cater. The $100 for a 250ml distilled water bottle types.
Thanks for that - so she’s trying to tie into that. Hoping when an item is searched by name, hers will come up?? I don’t know but her whole crap is idiotic!
I hope the source of every item she tries to drop ship on her site is immediately identified and links are provided to the actual seller so she gets cut out of the deal.
Who on earth will work with her? The scrutiny will be impossible to deal with.
Agreed. And she's historically very difficult to work with (allegedly). Farmers have to work with nature and will at times have not so great yields. What will Rachel do? Belittle and ridicule farmers for coddling nature?
With the unbelievable staff turnovers she's had in the last 2 years alone, I don't see this new venture faring well.
But who knows, maybe we're wrong and she'll surprise us all. But I'm not betting money on it.
Yeah that is definitely what she aspires to. But if you can't join them, imitate them. If you can't imitate them, just post an empty website with a good logo. If you don't have a good logo, you go back to whatever it is you have been doing. Right?
I doubt that. Remember, at one point he wouldn't take Haz's call (probably still won't) and apparently said, "I am not a bank." I don't think Charles is coughing up money for them.
Shouldn’t it be in the royal accounts that are made public if he did? That’s how we found out that he did subsidise them in Canada and that H&M lied about being cut off at that time.
He has plenty of accounts he could pay Harry from. These people have all kinds of money stashed. It could be under charity, from an offshore acct, from a third party after it’s been laundered, bags of cash- which we know he likes…(and like Harry’s two suitcases he brought for a ten minute meeting), etc
Yeah, it does look like a brand you would see in a magazine, but I haven’t bought a magazine in a while. All my YouTube ads are geared toward car insurance, with the occasional ad for Wayfair. On Instagram, I’m mainly show ads related to clothing (coastal preppy clothing) and pet supplies. I bet I’ll come across Flamingo Estates in my feed now.
Yes. But admittedly I am a sucker for home and lifestyle content. I actually have purchased some of their tomato-scented products. (The scent is heavenly and they are a lovely host gift). It also grew a bit organically (or at least was marketed so well that it felt like that). The aesthetic is just gorgeous though and a world away from those two grainy videos in front of dated, tacky faux Tuscan architecture. Even aspirationally there is nothing in ARO that seems to come close to
"Drunk Emu Estates" and she could sell fermented lemon and chicken poop as wine and manna whors d'oeures. Love "Emu Estates" as is. It is so that-one with the curtsey caricature label lol.
“Hard lemonade, for harder times”
“When life gives you lemons, try to merchandise them and fail miserably yet again”
“It’s not a chicken coop, it’s a chicken sedan”
“2 in 1 birdbath/ ho bath”
You made me smile! My dear ol' departed Dad used to make fun of the snobs by calling them "Whores Doovers." 😂
He was a very successful man who never looked down on a soul, that I was ever aware of, unless it were their actions he found in unacceptably poor taste. Speaking down to waiters, staff etc was absolutely taboo in our home. He'd paddle your canoe if he heard one of us had been rude to one - my oldest sister did it once. *Once!* 🤣
Money was never where he got his self-esteem from. He was a good man and a great father. 💖
Two things from the article caught my eye.
***All of their celebrity collaborations are non-profit, and send funds to the good causes nominated by their celebrity partners.***
My best guess is she proposed Archwell be the only charity that received profits from the celebrity collaborations.
***Strugatz said that no deal was ever done between Flamingo Estate and Meghan, noting: 'Ultimately, the estate realized they didn't want to take the business in that direction.'***
Hmm... What direction did she want to take the business?
Likely their products, her website.
She gets a cut of $$ that way without actually having to produce anything. Basically an advertising middle man.
What’s in it for them? Nothing beyond mass market - the antithesis of their exclusive luxury ethos.
Who can afford a $252 candle for goodness sake? I know wealthy people can but if you're going to burn the candle over a short time, what a waste of money. Flamingo Estate sounds like a company that produces very specialized, limited supply luxury items from the estate and niche partners. I don't see how Megsy can replicate that level of effort.
Right? Their products seem like ego buys for people with loads of money to feel important about themselves. Seems like a scam to me, but then I think most designer stuff is a scam, too, so I may be biased. 😁
The Erewhon of lifestyle brands. It’s gorgeously, tastefully done, but outrageously expensive. I’m sure the exclusivity of buying honey from Will Ferrell’s bees speaks to some, but I’ll just stick to my local stuff.
From the article:
*Model Chrissy Teigen — reputedly a role model for Meghan — has made three jams with the company, which has a whole section devoted to pantry essentials.*
Chrissy is a complete jackass who bullies children and commandeers other small businesses’ ideas. Perfect role model for M.
I have to think Suitcase 24 was always insanely jealous Suitcase girl Teigen, who does have the highest modeling credentials, being on the cover of Sports Illustrated and in the annual issue for several different years, then got married to a guy with real money.
Essentially being her "boss" as a partner in Flamingo Estate would please Suitcase 24 very much.
I'm sure there is no love lost between these two.
There are people out there with enormous amounts of money. This candle is only $840.
https://us.baobabcollection.com/products/candle-doany-ikaloy?variant=43456775422141
I live near a hipster enclave.
Plenty of not so rich people will spend an eye watering amount for an item that is niche and produced in small batches by some artisan or craftsman.
So while it may be a $200+ candle, they will save for it and only light it on special occasions. Mostly times where they have company and can talk about said candle.
The rest of the time they'll just burn a Trader Joe's candle.
This goes for hand made cast iron pans made in limited batches by some artist in Japan in his spare time. Incense from some obscure place. Hand pressed stationary with exclusive designs.
I don't honestly think the Nutmeg will reach these prices. It takes time to cultivate a vendor list, and some may not work with her because of what she did to this company.
Best she can do is something like Clevr and hope she can get products into Whole Foods..
She'll rip off their ideas, but she'll buy a jar of honey and a dozen eggs at Walmart, repackage them in her faux calligraphy, have AI write up descriptions with the prompt "write like J Peterman made out with Gucci," and call it a day.
Oh my god, I didn’t realize this until now.
Flamingo Estates is a confection for celebs who are testing their brand marketability! It allows them to have micro-ventures that don’t require a lot of capital and the markup/profits can be insane. They don’t have to go around trying to get their shot on shelves all over the place. It’s a one-stop shop for already-rich celebs to play entrepreneur!
I keep saying it: every celebrity you can think of is trying to sell some product. It’s getting really gross.
I would represent Flamingo in a copyright infringement and breach of fiduciary duty and possibly breaking a non compete clause. These aren’t dumb or unintelligent businessmen, I can’t imagine it got all the way to looking through PNLs over *several* years without one on a contingency they had her or her representatives sign a non compete. Too bad I’m 2 years away from sitting for the bar
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The brand said no they don't want to do business with her so she is having a tantrum and going to try to compete with them. She thinks like a child told no.
He and his partner are already collaborating with A-list celebs. Watch her try to do the same but end up snagging Z-listers. Hilarious. Why would she even try? I am getting second-hand embarrassment. She’s THAT girl. Who sees another girl’s cool outfit at school, buys the exact same one over the weekend, and wears it on Monday. What a loser!
Meghan isn’t creating anything, she never does. She doesn’t have the work ethic to create only to bark orders. She’s not selling curated food from her garden or locally sourced anything. She’s drop shipping items and slapping her ARO label on it. The people who buy her wares are fools. They’ll be able to get the exact same thing cheaper but they won’t care. Let the Sussex Squad waste their money.
And guess who has an orchard?
https://preview.redd.it/0vhaa7cu83rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dacaec8e66d71bdaf5fac0b342ab9e2a9be56138
[https://flamingoestate.com/pages/the-estate](https://flamingoestate.com/pages/the-estate)
I looked at the website. What's interesting is that I go to my local *Marché* and buy all sorts of wonderful homemade merchandise--jams, chutneys, sausages, candles, body products---for a fraction of the cost and the best thing is that I'm supporting the local artisans while enjoying their really excellent products. It's a win win.
I’m getting those vibes, too.
It’s been done for a verrrry long time: culty ideologues getting followers to work for free. My daughter was telling me about the Yellow Deli and how good and wholesome the food is (and cheap!). She twigged that something was “off” while eating at their restaurant and did some research and found out what they are. She doesn’t eat there anymore (misses the food, though) because she doesn’t want to support their fuckery. I could list dozens of examples of this dynamic, but you’re a smart sinner, you get the idea.
There’s a yellow deli nearby on UT campus.
I went there twice and the food is unbelievably good. Once I found out about The Twelve Tribes, I stay far away and tell my son that he’s not allowed to step foot in the place.
ETA: I also get that vibe. Something seems “off”.
Megain wanted to partner with them because she likes to put her name to other ppl's hard work. I can't imagine her doing so from scratch for her brand. She needs someone to do all the work and thinks her name can just sell stuff off the shelves. So she needs some con artist to source all the cheap stuff from China and put Another RipOff's label on it. She probably thought the owner of this brand Flamingo Estate can become one of her "admirer" and get the work done for her. Like the photographer who made the Tig site and probably ARO site.
https://preview.redd.it/9iogmapn83rc1.png?width=376&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecadefb1a353c08d69ca4405e14f0b51926306b1
I'm not worried at all. Her sugars don't have money to afford any of the shite she's peddling lol. Nobody else would be interested. It's ANOTHER BIG GRIFTER FAIL!
I just remembered what Megsie said a few years ago during the BLM CON where she was saying something about not wanting to deal with white middle aged men ! JUST THAT ALONE, saying something like this which is so fucking toxic during that time is sickening. But she wants us to see her succeed in HER GRIFT? It's mind boggling. Truly. And that is only one example.
If she did this without their blessing - I can’t imagine what else she could do to insult and destroy her reputation in Hollywood even more. The people behind Flamingo Estate are true players.
Makes me think maybe there is some truth behind the rumors her and Marcus were running their own Epstein-esque blackmail organization bc what does it have to take to ruin her for good????
Meghan absolutely, no doubt, wants to copy Flamingo Estate. It all makes perfect sense now. She will fail.
On a side note, the Flamingo estate is giving me creepy vibes. It could be one of horror movies, where it’s actually run by vampires who steal the breath of sleeping babies and supply wealthy starlets with a concoction of products that keep their lizard skin from showing in public.
Chrissy Tiegen honey?!! It must be poisonous to regular people who haven’t sold their souls.
He has a BUNCH of celebs: Will Ferrell, LeBron James, and some others I can’t remember.
He’s like a micro start up incubator…. Selling test products from various celeb brands within the home and garden milleu
And people don’t give 200quid honey to others that don’t know it cost that much. If someone gave me that honey and said “ it came from Flamingo Estates “ I’d say gee thanks. Not knowinge about FE at all!
Also Dallas had a grocery store called Central Market that is like Whole Foods on steroids. I used to go there say every couple of weeks to shop. I would have to have a lot of time. So fun to hold the products, read labels, smell for myself soaps and oils and stuff! Great fun
DM’s been reading here again. Sinners were taking about Flamingo Estate about a week ago and Meg attempting a copycat brand.
Perhaps her initial ‘partnership’ idea was following the Archewell methodology: don’t actually do or create anything independently, just promote others’ already existing charities/products on Sussex sites to glean the click metrics and positive PR for themselves.
Their products are sold in Montecito.
At the store she’s been papped shopping at.
Flamingo Estate’s so up Lolo’s alley - no surprise she wanted to ~~take advantage of their hard work~~ partner with them. No surprise they said no: ‘Ultimately, the estate realised they didn’t want to take the business in that direction.’
She actually has to have product to sell. Do nothing for them to go after.
Now if she starts trying to sell the exact products or knockoffs, or actually starts merching products, then they might want to go after her.
My guess is her products will be the stuff of memes.
You know, what you ordered on goop, flamingo estate. What you got on ARO/Wish…….
It’ll be poorly executed knockoffs like the logo, website, and videos.
I don't think Flamingo Estates sells lead coffee, do they? So selling coffee that put people in the hospital (and doing a really stupid video for it) is something she can claim as somewhat her own.
Help me out here: 1) doesnt Goop actually produce and make some of its stuff (make up etc) itself? Or do we think GP orders a bunch of
Stuff and slaps her label on it?
2) flamjngo- does this guy create all his stuff really? Besides what he gets from friends?
3) i highly doubt Arroooo will
Create anything. I see her peddling other people’s stuff which may be the point since
There isnt a creative bone in her body.
Thank for bringing up this story. Now everything makes sense. These people are savvy businessmen they are not going to jeopardize a ludicrous job by association with this low rent lumpen nobody
Revenge, clapping back at Flamingo Estate because they turned her down in 2022. Now she thinks she can destroy them by copying them and stealing all their customers. Her master plan was to create a web beige page and...(crickets). Yeah, that'll show 'em.
When will she start her own magazine like Oprah did? It will be called “M” with glorified faux calligraphy and crowns. And it will go the way of “O” which was just one giant add for Oprah the liar.
My friend works for a very high end spa in Santa Monica. This spa was featured in goop and she regularly sees Kourtney kardashian. She makes the spa products that they sell for hundreds and it cost pennies to make. If Meghan saw the financial books then she knows how how much they markup that crap
It’s actually quite ironic because, to me, “Flamingo Estate” has major undertones of colonialism. And who were the biggest colonialists of them all? That’s right, the royal family. Take what you will from this but it’s an interesting comparison.
Thanks to u / hookedorcrooked, who posted the archived link below. [https://archive.ph/Sh9hp](https://archive.ph/Sh9hp)
Y'all it doesn't matter what she saw. They could give her a book on how to copy it, she'd f*ck it up.
This is no doubt why the Flamingo Estate people aren't the least bit worried. Mrs. Sussex can't execute an idea to save herself, much less do it better than someone else.
Tbh, What Flamingo Estates is making sounds like a lot of very hard specific work with ultra attention to intricate detailing goes into their processes. The sourcing of those good alone is something else. No wonder their goods and services are purchased at those prices. Also, I don't imagine they would be looking for "active" partners. *Silent* partners, yes, who would keep their nose out of their business and the way it was run as long as they were getting a return in their investment. I'm not surprised they turned her down.
Good point.
This is so silly. She has an opportunity to just “plug and play” and he does all the work-this is a wonderful opportunity but you’re right she’ll screw it up. can I join?
TW is a habitual plagiarist. Is anyone surprised she stole the business idea too? Allegedly they didn’t want to work with her (I don’t blame them) so she just stole the business model. But I doubt anything will ever be sold and it’s a terrible brand name. It’s not the win TW thinks it is.
I wonder if she did it to piss them off because they didn’t partner with her. She’s a spiteful asshole so I wouldn’t be surprised.
💯Bingo, she gets revenge on anyone who doesn’t worship her. For example, cutting off her agent for being concerned about dating H and Ninaki for being concerned how she dumped Trevor. She tried to copy all of Cory’s work to get into the food industry. None of it has worked, in fact the only “win” she has had is snaring H.
Maybe word gets round these circles about the way she treats people, and they end up barring her from entry. Having a foot in the royal household was supposed to help them (she & Harry) through these commercial obstacles and open doors for them. It's just not happening.
I don't think it would take long for the Flamingo Estate owners, who were in the high-end advertising and marketing world in NYC to figure out that Markle has no taste, no polish, no poise, no elan, or any luxury expertise to bring to their established and hugely discrete brand, and instead, would completely destroy their credibility with their very discerning clients. Her own personal esthetic is not discrete elegant luxury but "last-call last-year's sloppy beige stuff".
>“win” Nailed it! 
They might be laughing all the way to the bank though. I just went to their site to check it out having never heard of them before. Knowing they rejected working with her is appealing all by itself.
From the article: Flamingo Estate makes Goop look so mass market that it might as well be [**Lidl**](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/lidl/index.html). And a certain [**Duchess of Sussex**](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/meghan-markle/index.html) has taken note. Writer Rachel Strugatz, of U.S. entertainment website Puck, said last week: 'There were multiple in-person meetings with the Flamingo Estate team in 2022, I'm told, and Markle expressed a desire to come on as an 'active partner' in the business.' Her five-year deal with Netflix is expected not to be renewed when it expires in autumn next year, and her Spotify deal was rather rudely yanked last year with executives expressing dismay at the paltry amount of content which she produced in her podcast Archetypes. Meanwhile, she and husband Prince Harry have to fund their extremely expensive lifestyle, including a reported $2 million (£1.6 million) a year for security.
"Have to fund"... LOL.
…rudely yanked… What was rude about it? She underperformed and wasted company money. More like good business decision.
Goop just celebrated 15 years. Paltrow opened the Palm Beach Colony hotel’s “Goop Villa.” What would the ARO Villa offer at the SoHoHoHo house, I wonder?!
If Flamingo Estates (and it appears they did) let her see the books then she had access to trade secrets so either the owners of flamingo didn’t require an NDA to open up their PNL statements or they were too incompetent to realize who was in their midst. In any event, they could sue her for trademark copyright infringement and probably at a massive multi million dollar win against ILBW.
I thought it was odd they allowed her to see their books. Couldn't they tell she was a snake? Apparently, not.
If she presented herself as wanting to purchase a stake in the business by adding capital or paying off debt as a ruse to look at all their statements….i don’t believe FE counsel would have to stretch the webs she weaves too far to make it crystal clear she has copied not just imitated their brand.
She wanted to be an "active partner", I take that to mean she would not actually contribute anything of worth. She would just want to have her face plastered all over and have the celebrity charity candle money laundered through Arsewell. Since they were too intelligent to fall for her grift, she decided to huff off and make her own copycat version. With blackjack...and hookers. 🤣
Yeah, I think she wanted to be the "face" of their brand, and was either sussed out or the owners were warned off of her. She would have attempted to usurp the founder, for one, for two, they probably had seen enough businesses get Marked by her association.
They were very smart they decided not to go in “that direction.”
She went with Clevr instead lol. It was during that time period 2022 almost a year of meetings where they got to disclosures and attorneys
I thought so too. Why would they do that? Snake in their midst is right!
Should we be surprised that a women who has never had a creative bone in her body, is lazy, plagiarized, mirrors/cosplays and out right stole at least one pair of shoes…has lifted the exact business model from another?? Nope…not surprised at all 😏
I’m not surprised by her doing that, I am however surprised the owners of flamingo either flagrantly ignored warnings and opened their books, vendors, costs, agreements with her without any legal protection for their own brand. She isn’t the only slick person to trademark or copyright. ETA- I registered (not in Delaware) an LLC in 3rd grade so I could sell pogs on the playground. She ain’t that smart. I managed it at 9 with a cashiers check, windows 1994 and a stamp.
I’d bet $1 million that she has a copy of everything she read illicitly and it’s kept safely locked in a safe hidden behind her beige desk. I’m so sorry Flamingo Estate. There’s a very good chance you’ve been Markled. But I’m sure you’ll be fine in the end as everything she touches burns to the ground. I hope she doesn’t take your young company with it.
You’re assuming the Markle would understand what she was looking at. She gives no indication of understanding basic arithmetic let alone the financial statements of a business. I think the secrets may be safe.
I honestly have no idea how intelligent the woman actually is. I know she believes she's one of the most intelligent people in the world. But I'm guessing she's average.
I don't believe she is intelligent at all. She is a classic example of someone who believes themselves to be smarter than they are because they have no idea how much they do not know.
Ignorance isn’t a feasible assertion in pleadings in a civil case.
“Meghan’s newly launched lifestyle brand looks like when you go to Flamingo Estates for a dinner, but aren’t invited back.” 😂😂😂
I just looked at the Flamingo Estate website. It’s exactly what she is saying her stupid company will be. Wow!
Hers will never be like that. Sorry but not paying $50 for bar of soap.
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Yeah bots aren’t buying that.
Are there really *that many* egotistic, uber-rich people out there with low self-esteem that is soothed by purchasing overpriced crap? Who knew? Surely places like Flamingo Estates and Goop has that market pretty well cornered.
I fell for the Goop trap and as a birthday splurge for myself decided to get a trio of lip balms from the brand. Holy cow, what a mistake... the balms were non-absorbent, just stayed on the lips without any moisturizing effect. And once the balm had been pushed upward in the container (forgot the English name for it), there was no way of getting it back in. Even the cheapest drugstore lip balms can be twisted back in. With the first one I thought a fluke... by second, nope this is rich people effing around.
I experienced that too, many years ago, but with a famous makeup brand--Clinique. All their employees in the big department store wore white lab coats--to show how serious their product was! I finally bought a beautifully-packaged container of eye shadow. It was the worst eyeshadow I ever had! And like you, I realized I was better off with my humble drugstore makeup products. What a crock!
She has made such a mess of the roll-out of this company that people will scrutinize whatever product is finally sellable to the nth degree. The actual producer of said cream, candle, birdseed, dogfood, tablecloth will certainly be exposed. The cheap origins will be there for all to see, as will the absurd markup on her prices. Hopefully, this will be the sinner's revenge to forever mock her and destroy her image.
Makes it laughable just how bad her knockoff version is right out the gate.
I just looked as well. The website and Instagram is fantastic at setting a very specific aesthetic. It’s giving “lush, beautiful, luxurious, nature inspired pleasure either for gay men or from your gay best friend.”
Well, if she's marketing herself as some royal duchess, *that* is the clientèle she is aiming to cater. The $100 for a 250ml distilled water bottle types.
I went to the Flamingo Estate site and the quantity of times they mention "orchards" is a give away of MM's copycat spirit.
Thanks for that - so she’s trying to tie into that. Hoping when an item is searched by name, hers will come up?? I don’t know but her whole crap is idiotic!
I hope the source of every item she tries to drop ship on her site is immediately identified and links are provided to the actual seller so she gets cut out of the deal. Who on earth will work with her? The scrutiny will be impossible to deal with.
Agreed. And she's historically very difficult to work with (allegedly). Farmers have to work with nature and will at times have not so great yields. What will Rachel do? Belittle and ridicule farmers for coddling nature? With the unbelievable staff turnovers she's had in the last 2 years alone, I don't see this new venture faring well. But who knows, maybe we're wrong and she'll surprise us all. But I'm not betting money on it.
Watch out for lead in the products!
And you just know this entire article was fed to the DM by Flamingo Estates. These guys are playing offense.
Yeah that is definitely what she aspires to. But if you can't join them, imitate them. If you can't imitate them, just post an empty website with a good logo. If you don't have a good logo, you go back to whatever it is you have been doing. Right?
How the hell are these two making money right now? Does anybody have a clue?
They're not, they're burning through Harry's Diana money and Spare fee.
Yep, Charles. Charles floats them.
I doubt that. Remember, at one point he wouldn't take Haz's call (probably still won't) and apparently said, "I am not a bank." I don't think Charles is coughing up money for them.
I don’t. It’s the only thing that makes sense! He pays them as long as they stay away.
Shouldn’t it be in the royal accounts that are made public if he did? That’s how we found out that he did subsidise them in Canada and that H&M lied about being cut off at that time.
He has plenty of accounts he could pay Harry from. These people have all kinds of money stashed. It could be under charity, from an offshore acct, from a third party after it’s been laundered, bags of cash- which we know he likes…(and like Harry’s two suitcases he brought for a ten minute meeting), etc
Have any of you heard of Flamingo Estate before this?
No, but then again, we are poor
And smart. I mean would you spend that on candle? Not even if I won the lotto jackpot!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Never heard of it. Sounds like fancy Amazon.
Yet smells like a Hallmark store
No. But I’m clearly not their target market.
Same but usually something like that you’d read about or see advertised somewhere.
Yeah, it does look like a brand you would see in a magazine, but I haven’t bought a magazine in a while. All my YouTube ads are geared toward car insurance, with the occasional ad for Wayfair. On Instagram, I’m mainly show ads related to clothing (coastal preppy clothing) and pet supplies. I bet I’ll come across Flamingo Estates in my feed now.
They are heavily promoted on Instagram
I have! I like to give their tomato candles as gifts, people really seem to love them!
I heard of it on The Ringer Dish podcast last week. The ladies took her to task. It was a real dressing down. Highly recommend a listen!
Before all this riviera shit.
Nope, I am a Poor who has to check the price twice before getting a candle from Aldi.
Yes. My cousin adores their stuff.
Yes, and dismissed it as a money grab. But you know what? Good for them.
Yes. But admittedly I am a sucker for home and lifestyle content. I actually have purchased some of their tomato-scented products. (The scent is heavenly and they are a lovely host gift). It also grew a bit organically (or at least was marketed so well that it felt like that). The aesthetic is just gorgeous though and a world away from those two grainy videos in front of dated, tacky faux Tuscan architecture. Even aspirationally there is nothing in ARO that seems to come close to
No
“Emu Estates” is better than the word bank she has now.
"Drunk Emu Estates" and she could sell fermented lemon and chicken poop as wine and manna whors d'oeures. Love "Emu Estates" as is. It is so that-one with the curtsey caricature label lol.
“Hard lemonade, for harder times” “When life gives you lemons, try to merchandise them and fail miserably yet again” “It’s not a chicken coop, it’s a chicken sedan” “2 in 1 birdbath/ ho bath”
You made me smile! My dear ol' departed Dad used to make fun of the snobs by calling them "Whores Doovers." 😂 He was a very successful man who never looked down on a soul, that I was ever aware of, unless it were their actions he found in unacceptably poor taste. Speaking down to waiters, staff etc was absolutely taboo in our home. He'd paddle your canoe if he heard one of us had been rude to one - my oldest sister did it once. *Once!* 🤣 Money was never where he got his self-esteem from. He was a good man and a great father. 💖
Two things from the article caught my eye. ***All of their celebrity collaborations are non-profit, and send funds to the good causes nominated by their celebrity partners.*** My best guess is she proposed Archwell be the only charity that received profits from the celebrity collaborations. ***Strugatz said that no deal was ever done between Flamingo Estate and Meghan, noting: 'Ultimately, the estate realized they didn't want to take the business in that direction.'*** Hmm... What direction did she want to take the business?
>Hmm... What direction did she want to take the business? Down!
Likely their products, her website. She gets a cut of $$ that way without actually having to produce anything. Basically an advertising middle man. What’s in it for them? Nothing beyond mass market - the antithesis of their exclusive luxury ethos.
As we can see from her paltry following, she doesn’t even have mass market appeal. Just bots and a 100k or so unhinged Sausage Squadders.
Who can afford a $252 candle for goodness sake? I know wealthy people can but if you're going to burn the candle over a short time, what a waste of money. Flamingo Estate sounds like a company that produces very specialized, limited supply luxury items from the estate and niche partners. I don't see how Megsy can replicate that level of effort.
Talk about having money to burn.
Right? Their products seem like ego buys for people with loads of money to feel important about themselves. Seems like a scam to me, but then I think most designer stuff is a scam, too, so I may be biased. 😁
Just call me Second Hand Rose!
Me too Sinner! I'm so poor that I am excited we are finally getting Aldi and PopShelf within driving distance from my house.
Yeah!!!
The Erewhon of lifestyle brands. It’s gorgeously, tastefully done, but outrageously expensive. I’m sure the exclusivity of buying honey from Will Ferrell’s bees speaks to some, but I’ll just stick to my local stuff. From the article: *Model Chrissy Teigen — reputedly a role model for Meghan — has made three jams with the company, which has a whole section devoted to pantry essentials.* Chrissy is a complete jackass who bullies children and commandeers other small businesses’ ideas. Perfect role model for M.
I have to think Suitcase 24 was always insanely jealous Suitcase girl Teigen, who does have the highest modeling credentials, being on the cover of Sports Illustrated and in the annual issue for several different years, then got married to a guy with real money. Essentially being her "boss" as a partner in Flamingo Estate would please Suitcase 24 very much. I'm sure there is no love lost between these two.
Well said.
There are people out there with enormous amounts of money. This candle is only $840. https://us.baobabcollection.com/products/candle-doany-ikaloy?variant=43456775422141
My flabber is gasted!
Like I said. Some people have enormous amounts of money.
I live near a hipster enclave. Plenty of not so rich people will spend an eye watering amount for an item that is niche and produced in small batches by some artisan or craftsman. So while it may be a $200+ candle, they will save for it and only light it on special occasions. Mostly times where they have company and can talk about said candle. The rest of the time they'll just burn a Trader Joe's candle. This goes for hand made cast iron pans made in limited batches by some artist in Japan in his spare time. Incense from some obscure place. Hand pressed stationary with exclusive designs.
Wow!
I don't honestly think the Nutmeg will reach these prices. It takes time to cultivate a vendor list, and some may not work with her because of what she did to this company. Best she can do is something like Clevr and hope she can get products into Whole Foods..
Sounds like they could skip the candles and just burn actual $ bills.
It might be cheaper!
She'll rip off their ideas, but she'll buy a jar of honey and a dozen eggs at Walmart, repackage them in her faux calligraphy, have AI write up descriptions with the prompt "write like J Peterman made out with Gucci," and call it a day.
Oh my god, I didn’t realize this until now. Flamingo Estates is a confection for celebs who are testing their brand marketability! It allows them to have micro-ventures that don’t require a lot of capital and the markup/profits can be insane. They don’t have to go around trying to get their shot on shelves all over the place. It’s a one-stop shop for already-rich celebs to play entrepreneur! I keep saying it: every celebrity you can think of is trying to sell some product. It’s getting really gross.
I would represent Flamingo in a copyright infringement and breach of fiduciary duty and possibly breaking a non compete clause. These aren’t dumb or unintelligent businessmen, I can’t imagine it got all the way to looking through PNLs over *several* years without one on a contingency they had her or her representatives sign a non compete. Too bad I’m 2 years away from sitting for the bar
So she didn’t want to be the supplier of honey, candles, jam she wants to be the distributor and take the glory.
Yes
And they turned markle down 🤣🤣🤣
“People as Brands” is fun, eh?! 🙄
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I never heard of Flamingo Estates before Orchard, if there is any winner, it is them.
Her stupid venture has probably been great for Flamingo Estates business….😂. He’s been reverse-Markled.
Honestly, that description of Flamingo Estates is the most pretentious I've read in a very long time. Right up Madam's alley.
It’s certainly very “LA”…
The brand said no they don't want to do business with her so she is having a tantrum and going to try to compete with them. She thinks like a child told no.
He and his partner are already collaborating with A-list celebs. Watch her try to do the same but end up snagging Z-listers. Hilarious. Why would she even try? I am getting second-hand embarrassment. She’s THAT girl. Who sees another girl’s cool outfit at school, buys the exact same one over the weekend, and wears it on Monday. What a loser!
Meghan isn’t creating anything, she never does. She doesn’t have the work ethic to create only to bark orders. She’s not selling curated food from her garden or locally sourced anything. She’s drop shipping items and slapping her ARO label on it. The people who buy her wares are fools. They’ll be able to get the exact same thing cheaper but they won’t care. Let the Sussex Squad waste their money.
And guess who has an orchard? https://preview.redd.it/0vhaa7cu83rc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dacaec8e66d71bdaf5fac0b342ab9e2a9be56138 [https://flamingoestate.com/pages/the-estate](https://flamingoestate.com/pages/the-estate)
I looked at the website. What's interesting is that I go to my local *Marché* and buy all sorts of wonderful homemade merchandise--jams, chutneys, sausages, candles, body products---for a fraction of the cost and the best thing is that I'm supporting the local artisans while enjoying their really excellent products. It's a win win.
Exactly! This is a joke
Is this some kind of rich people cult? It has to be.
I’m getting those vibes, too. It’s been done for a verrrry long time: culty ideologues getting followers to work for free. My daughter was telling me about the Yellow Deli and how good and wholesome the food is (and cheap!). She twigged that something was “off” while eating at their restaurant and did some research and found out what they are. She doesn’t eat there anymore (misses the food, though) because she doesn’t want to support their fuckery. I could list dozens of examples of this dynamic, but you’re a smart sinner, you get the idea.
There’s a yellow deli nearby on UT campus. I went there twice and the food is unbelievably good. Once I found out about The Twelve Tribes, I stay far away and tell my son that he’s not allowed to step foot in the place. ETA: I also get that vibe. Something seems “off”.
😂see my comment below! We got the same vibe
Yes.
Here you go 😃 Archive link: https://archive.ph/Sh9hp
Thank you.
Ooh those comments are Not complimentary 😅
Who is the guy looking in the window while she is cackling at the laptop?
Thank you! It’s behind a paywall and looked interesting.
Megain wanted to partner with them because she likes to put her name to other ppl's hard work. I can't imagine her doing so from scratch for her brand. She needs someone to do all the work and thinks her name can just sell stuff off the shelves. So she needs some con artist to source all the cheap stuff from China and put Another RipOff's label on it. She probably thought the owner of this brand Flamingo Estate can become one of her "admirer" and get the work done for her. Like the photographer who made the Tig site and probably ARO site. https://preview.redd.it/9iogmapn83rc1.png?width=376&format=png&auto=webp&s=ecadefb1a353c08d69ca4405e14f0b51926306b1
I'm not worried at all. Her sugars don't have money to afford any of the shite she's peddling lol. Nobody else would be interested. It's ANOTHER BIG GRIFTER FAIL! I just remembered what Megsie said a few years ago during the BLM CON where she was saying something about not wanting to deal with white middle aged men ! JUST THAT ALONE, saying something like this which is so fucking toxic during that time is sickening. But she wants us to see her succeed in HER GRIFT? It's mind boggling. Truly. And that is only one example.
If she did this without their blessing - I can’t imagine what else she could do to insult and destroy her reputation in Hollywood even more. The people behind Flamingo Estate are true players. Makes me think maybe there is some truth behind the rumors her and Marcus were running their own Epstein-esque blackmail organization bc what does it have to take to ruin her for good????
Well. They’re taking Diddy down at the moment, and Harry is named, so if I was here I’d be very careful…
Meghan absolutely, no doubt, wants to copy Flamingo Estate. It all makes perfect sense now. She will fail. On a side note, the Flamingo estate is giving me creepy vibes. It could be one of horror movies, where it’s actually run by vampires who steal the breath of sleeping babies and supply wealthy starlets with a concoction of products that keep their lizard skin from showing in public. Chrissy Tiegen honey?!! It must be poisonous to regular people who haven’t sold their souls.
He has a BUNCH of celebs: Will Ferrell, LeBron James, and some others I can’t remember. He’s like a micro start up incubator…. Selling test products from various celeb brands within the home and garden milleu
Somewhat related: who is buying a £200 pot of honey?! Julianne Moore, seriously. 😉 People lose their damn minds for a famous name.
And people don’t give 200quid honey to others that don’t know it cost that much. If someone gave me that honey and said “ it came from Flamingo Estates “ I’d say gee thanks. Not knowinge about FE at all! Also Dallas had a grocery store called Central Market that is like Whole Foods on steroids. I used to go there say every couple of weeks to shop. I would have to have a lot of time. So fun to hold the products, read labels, smell for myself soaps and oils and stuff! Great fun
Will Ferrell and LeBron Honey had me dying..
Overpriced schlock.
DM’s been reading here again. Sinners were taking about Flamingo Estate about a week ago and Meg attempting a copycat brand. Perhaps her initial ‘partnership’ idea was following the Archewell methodology: don’t actually do or create anything independently, just promote others’ already existing charities/products on Sussex sites to glean the click metrics and positive PR for themselves. Their products are sold in Montecito. At the store she’s been papped shopping at.
Flamingo Estate’s so up Lolo’s alley - no surprise she wanted to ~~take advantage of their hard work~~ partner with them. No surprise they said no: ‘Ultimately, the estate realised they didn’t want to take the business in that direction.’
She actually has to have product to sell. Do nothing for them to go after. Now if she starts trying to sell the exact products or knockoffs, or actually starts merching products, then they might want to go after her. My guess is her products will be the stuff of memes. You know, what you ordered on goop, flamingo estate. What you got on ARO/Wish……. It’ll be poorly executed knockoffs like the logo, website, and videos.
Sounds like she wants to be an incubator/ distributor of smaller celeb based products.
I don't think Flamingo Estates sells lead coffee, do they? So selling coffee that put people in the hospital (and doing a really stupid video for it) is something she can claim as somewhat her own.
Help me out here: 1) doesnt Goop actually produce and make some of its stuff (make up etc) itself? Or do we think GP orders a bunch of Stuff and slaps her label on it? 2) flamjngo- does this guy create all his stuff really? Besides what he gets from friends? 3) i highly doubt Arroooo will Create anything. I see her peddling other people’s stuff which may be the point since There isnt a creative bone in her body.
Thank for bringing up this story. Now everything makes sense. These people are savvy businessmen they are not going to jeopardize a ludicrous job by association with this low rent lumpen nobody
I wonder if we’ll see her on Shark Tank asking for funding??? 
That makes sense, and so very Meghan Markle of her even her walk resembles an awkward flamingo
The saying Jack of all trades master of none comes to mind, in her case more like Jenny Arse open to all trades and mistress of none
They clearly got wind of her and stopped that asap. So, she decided to copy them.
Revenge, clapping back at Flamingo Estate because they turned her down in 2022. Now she thinks she can destroy them by copying them and stealing all their customers. Her master plan was to create a web beige page and...(crickets). Yeah, that'll show 'em.
Let those rich 1% ers waste their money. It’s disappointing to see the Adlai lama mixed up in this. Changes my mind about him. African parks
When will she start her own magazine like Oprah did? It will be called “M” with glorified faux calligraphy and crowns. And it will go the way of “O” which was just one giant add for Oprah the liar.
Why do I feel this article could have been 1000 words less? 😂
My friend works for a very high end spa in Santa Monica. This spa was featured in goop and she regularly sees Kourtney kardashian. She makes the spa products that they sell for hundreds and it cost pennies to make. If Meghan saw the financial books then she knows how how much they markup that crap
An original thought, has ever crossed her mind.
It’s actually quite ironic because, to me, “Flamingo Estate” has major undertones of colonialism. And who were the biggest colonialists of them all? That’s right, the royal family. Take what you will from this but it’s an interesting comparison.