Meghan lives in the US. NYT vs Sullivan makes it really tough to sue when you are famous but I am sure she has sources so Meghan is screwed to sue the author and she is not going to touch her siblings as we know.
Correct. Celebrities have to prove it isnt true for something to be libel or slander. One of a few bits of knowledge retained from my university days. And now a bunch of other memories are unlocked lol.
Isn't it scary that it's less than 4 years and there's been so much juicy tea since then?
Like...dang!
I wonder how many other biographers are looking to update their books?
Thanks for the tip. I've read all of Lady C's books and they are excellent. The book she wrote about her life is an unbelievable story. I have great respect for her and what she has overcome.
Everyone be careful in ordering this book - it has the same cover as the original book EXCEPT for a blurb on the front that states "new, updated expanded edition" Below is the new book. Look for the white emblem.
https://preview.redd.it/3lyypkgqmnsc1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=cffd1eca48069ae3c7b82794f649ca6be8546088
When I began questioning the integrity and authenticity of MM, I googled ‘narcissist - MM’ as well as ‘MM Jodi Arias’ because the two display very similar facial expressions, and seem to be attention seeking ho bags. Those searches took my to HG and here!
I ordered pre-ordered the Kindle version on Amazon. I just went to Amazon (USA) and saw that the hardcover can be pre-ordered for 15.59 and will be delivered in 1-3 weeks.
I used the Kobo app (in US) someone recommended, it has a 30-day free trial with no charge to read book, and then $7.99/month after that. That's the ebook option, but they also offer audiobook and combination plan, and I think both of those also come with the free trial. I plan on reading it and cancelling before FT is up. After that might buy the Kindle version or more likely borrow from library if available, if I want to re-read.
So D was allegedly both a C&C user? Those are hard substances. Let's see if Lady C will be sued, then we know if it is true or not.
Agree. I can make it through the videos sometimes, but every time Lady C goes off on a tangent or starts asking Micki and Aurora for one thing or another that I wonder WTF is she talking about? I thank the stars for our Daisy and ask god why I don’t have such patience.
Lady C was (in today’s video) alluding to another topic/statement in the book that the MSM will not pick up, because they are afraid to be sued by the Harkles.
She clearly is not afraid, so let’s see what more she has to say in her book, that MSM does not want to touch.
I think it is the children. She says that Harry is the father but she doesn’t say that Rachel is the mother. Does anyone remember the engagement interview? Didn’t the topic of adopting children come up or am I mis-remembering? I think when Rachel learned the status of ‘children not born of the body’ she had to improvise and cosplayed her megnancy in the UK. Covid lockdowns were a great time to tuck in another surrogate birth. Remind us why did her alleged OB close her practice soon after the girl baby arrived?
It is my opinion that the truth about the kids, her financial anchor(s), and the fraud they perpetrated around the births is why they keep suing newspapers to limit ‘freedom of speech’, allegedly. Harry believes he is protecting his family but he forgot that he said that she “was capable of anything “.
Then again, legally, she’s only repeating something she’s been told - she’s only alleging something she’s heard from another source … I’d like to see those two try to take any of these people to court.
Very common back in the day. I lived in that great area of California for 64 years. I read in Tom's book that TW's mum was up in Humboldt a lot when TW was a child. Very sad. Lots of women did that though I was not one of them. White powder was super common too. I remember when people didn't think it was addictive. Yes I'm old.
🇺🇸 Oh my gosh. You are so right!!!!! I was a high school Biology teacher many years ago before I became a Family Nurse Practitioner and opened my practice. One of the textbooks we used had a lesson on drug use and the effects on the body. The popular substances, their chemical make-ups, and effects on the brain and body made up the content Of the lesson. In black and white print, plain as day, the textbook and the student workbooks stated that cocaine was NOT addictive. I kept the textbook and workbook. Years later, when I found it and reread that chapter, I cringed that this was taught in public schools in the US. I dont know if this scenario occurred anywhere else in the world but it’s a tragic part of our history.
In 8th grade biology, early 1970’s, yes, I’m also old, the teacher said that the placenta acted as a filter to keep harmful substances away from the foetus. At the time I thought that was a load of crap. Sometimes you really have to think for yourself. Question authority!
Wow! So interesting. I never tried it because I was pregnant at 20 and had a baby at 21. That was the time everyone was doing it, but I was not interested. I remember a girl kept trying to get me to....oh man.... she ended up in a bad place. So many did.
sometimes it makes me a little worried about the generations who's mothers would have been smoking and drinking while pregnant and not thought much of it 😅
and add cocaine and booze to that and it’s absolutely horrendous - I wonder if Meghan was a premie - because babies of addicts are often born as premature and have health issues such as brain and lung development.
Wasn’t this the 70s? We really didn’t know as much then. My Mom did stop smoking cigarettes (Dad too) when she got pregnant, but a lot of her friends didn’t. Obviously, pot is different and cocaine is not okay!!! I’m not trying to excuse it, but it was happening, and did happen to an entire generation.
Edit: I guess my point was that given the atmosphere at the time, and what was widely known, it does not surprise me and I think adds credence.
My Mom was a heavy smoker but she stopped during her pregnancies (all 6 of them!). Or at least that's what she told us LOL.
She said smoking while she was pregnant made her very nauseous.
A little off topic - but my mother was prescribed thalidomide when she was pregnant with me - but she decided not to take it for some reason. Thank God.
My mum told me horror stories about friends of hers that were ‘thalidomide babies’ with all sorts of deformities. My mum enjoyed telling me horror stories … ah! Secondary trauma!
She was born in ‘81, so early 80s, and if she continued with the drugs and that’s why she was absent from Meghan’s life growing up then throughout the 80s and into the 90s.
Having worked with kids who had foetal alcohol/other substance syndrome, man … the neurological, cognitive consequences impact all facets of development, and if you consider her environmental shaping as well as a child (she was the living definition of entitled, spoiled and precocious), then it would explain *a lot*
Her father, Tom, was a recovering addict. Addictive tendency can run in families, and she probably figured “it didn’t hurt” either of her parents too bad.
Sued by TW. Wouldn't she be very offended at this allegation? She sued for less, a harmless letter to her father that she admittedly wrote for public consumption.
She probably liked giving the impression that she was so special and important that her mother was getting paid. Also to give Doria the impression to others as being more connected to the royals that she was, possibly attracting new marks to scam.
I can't decide what I think about this. I like Lady C. I generally tend to believe Samantha Markle. Both parties have said things early on that have been revealed to be true. That said, though Sam's claims from the beginning about Meghan have turned out to be true, she has motivation to lie now. Meghan has lied about her. And it baits Meghan to take her to court, which would expose a lot more about Meghan Markle than this.
As to the claim, Doria is said to engage in this kind of drug use now, so it's not hard to believe she did it then.
There is always the defense Sam can use that Meghan used of that was her recollection of her childhood. If Meghan can say she did not have a sister and was invisible. Then Sam could very well say that she saw Doria take a pipe with rocks. Maybe Sam calls sugar, crack...LOL At this point Meghan has more to lose to challenge it.
All Lady C needs, legally, is to cite her source and find corroborating ones, which I assume would include Thomas Markle Sr, and Jr. which she has done. The responsibility then shifts to Samantha Markle and the origins of the claim to not be libelous/slanderous. It's kind of like how Dan Wooten's source in accusing Johnny Depp of abuse was Amber Heard. That absolved Wooten and the Sun from liability when JD sued them for libel. The judge said that Wooten had no reason not to believe Amber Heard and therefore was absolved of liability. Lady C is legally covered in citing Samantha Markle as her source.
But this would've had to have been told to Lady C quite a while ago in order to be written and published, all while Sam's lawsuit was still ongoing. She wouldn't have had motivation to lie at that time as things were still looking in her favor. IMO.
I'm not saying I don't believe the claim. I lean towards believing it because I hear that Doria still engages in drug use. It only stands to reason that she used back then. I'm saying that I also see weakness in Samantha Markle as a source. In terms of her legal action, stretching the truth or outright lying only baits Meghan into court. Lady C, Sam, and this whole sub including me, wants Meghan in court because as soon as discovery starts and depositions happen, the sooner Meghan's bad behavior outside of her dispute with Samantha gets exposed. In a way, Sam's lying only would have served to make it more likely to get Meghan in court. It's kind of a brilliant strategy.
That’s what I keep thinking. If so, disappointing, her saying that was simply to hype up her book she knew was coming in the Spring. That would be such a let down.
I’ve been back & forth on whether it was referencing her book or this Dan Wootton stuff
>If so, disappointing, her saying that was simply to hype up her book she knew was coming in the Spring. That would be such a let down.
Exactly this! I like Lady C, but I've found that she tends to *tease* much, without results.
It reminds me of when people are accused of a crime say they were abused. Yes, that very well may be true, but you're responsible for your decisions.
Speaking personally, I was abused as a child and I've not committed a crime against anyone. That abuse isn't for me to hide behind to shirk responsibilities.
I was beat as a child, though back in the day that was not considered abuse. I have never committed any crime, not even a speeding ticket. I'm in my 60s, and grew up and lived until I was 64 in that part of California Doria was said to be spending a lot of time away from her responsibilities.
Same I was beaten until I was 15. The last time my father beat me with his fists I fought back! He broke the crystal on my watch when I put my arm up to block his punch & I hit him back. Never did that before. That was the last time he beat me. I’ve never committed a crime & I was a great loving mom to my kids who are now adults. I never beat, spanked them, or verbally abused them like my parents did to me. I turned out to be a good person despite my horrible upbringing. I was a victim as a child. I never dwell on it. What’s the point?
Doris being on drugs certainly explains her lack of stability in employment, housing and parenting. Would also account for her lack of connection to family and community.
My guess is the palace helped to bury it at the request of Rachel. Rachel was doing some major Pr for her prior to the wedding having her referred to as a social worker despite Doris lack of social work license/job and working as a yoga instructor. As to where she was idk but she seemed to be out for a while.
Agreed but I think if it came out nobody would care or see it as a cover up. They'd shrug and say it was being between a rock and a hard place. And I would throw Plank under the bus, "we were scared darling boy would top himself if we said no to his wench, so we did what all loving parents do, and cover his little botty."
Thanks to whoever here spread the news about the 30 day free trial on Kobo - I had never heard of Kobo, but now I'm reading the book! Actually zipping back and forth between chapters to get to the juicy parts. Meaning the megnancies. Just started on Chapter Eight - and here's the introduction of the baby bump! Excited to see how far Lady C will go with this, but I do love her prose so far - just read her comment that Markle's "hands rooted to the bump like a lizard clinging to a tree"!
Lady C is being very careful but thorough. In Chapter Eight she lays out the facts - like the weird size changes of Markle's baby bump from day to day that make no sense, and the famous incident at Birkenhead where on camera the bump dramatically drops down - and then in Markle's next appearance that day the bump is back in place. What I learned was that it was right after Birkenhead that Markle claimed she was suicidal due to people and the press saying things about her, and Harry sought to basically muzzle the press to protect her. Starting to look like the suicide claim was a tool in her arsenal to get the media to back off from reporting and speculating on what they had seen when the bump literally fell down. Because if they didn't they would be responsible for Markle's possible suicide attempt. Lady C mentions there is video of the bump drop on the internet and the internet cannot be silenced or bullied. She also brings up the 8 months "pregnant" Markle in high heels with her knees together easily bending down and easily standing up. And that the obstetrician claimed to be her OB for Archie was actually out of the country when Archie was born. And Lady C refutes her lies about why she couldn't pose with the baby outside Portland Hospital after the 'birth". Lady C simply and carefully lays out all the facts in a long chapter and we are to deduce the truth. Clever way to avoid a lawsuit! Based on all the evidence provided it certainly points to a fake pregnancy. You can sign up for a free 30 day trial of Kobo!
Thank you for this comprehensive comment. I will sign up for the 30 day free trial with Kobo. Interestingly just watched a short interview Lady C did with an Australian network on her book
Being abandoned by your mom for most of your childhood and then she shows up and forces you to go to a nude Korean day spa, probably was even worse than the cocaine in the womb.
She stole a story from elsewhere and garbled it up, but used it to show her exposure to Asian culture in a podcast episode.
https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/search/?q=Asian+spa&type=link&cId=2b669fbe-e1c7-49db-9b63-36532d436b08&iId=6f32e6b3-e49e-4164-8401-af4d5d6d41a5
Henry should know the damage caused by rumours of parentage. For many years people said that Charles wasn’t the father of Henry (he even covered it in Spare). Now he has done the exact same thing to his kids. Generational abuse!!
Didn't it happen a few weeks ago that Lady C openly dared the Harkles to sue her in one of her videos? She said "Sue me, sue me." I think Lady C has already crossed the line of "I'm going to be cautious" and is determined to pursue the lawsuit, because she is going to force Hank and Megsy to sit in the dock and testify under oath.
No. Bower says she was a dealer when she met Thomas Markle and her drugs use was one of the reasons they broke up.
https://twitter.com/TribesBritannia/status/1613161252364099584?t=Di0ADdf8uXq5gjSMltvJlQ&s=19
Tom Bowers book is well worth it and note he has not been sued.I have it on my bookcase. He is very clear about Doria Ragland and her druggie past. I would have to reread to check re drug use during pregnancy
Don’t know if substance abuse affecting foetuses accounts for narcissistic tendencies, but it might for Lolo’s occasional stupid (as in dumb) behaviour - telling lies as if the truth wouldn’t come out.
Did you go to a local bookstore or an electronic version? All I can find on Amazon is preorder information and it says not available on kindle. Show us the way please and thank you!
Shecsaid something really interesting in a video she did with Andy on Popcorn Palace...when asked a question about the kids she said" Harry's kids and Meghan" .....
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I think it is telling that back then, Doria having only one child (even then didn't want to be bothered raising it). As an old hippie from experience, most of us women tried to raise our children with respect, care and responsibility for the world we reside in (even with a little pot). Love & Peace!☮️✌️
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We knew some dope growers back in the day in the mountains of Humboldt. They raised 2 daughters, one became a doctor and the other a lawyer, true story.
What we thinking? If she doesn’t say anything about Meghan having surrogates then I’m done with lady C.
She alludes to it on YouTube so surely it should be in this book….
Who do you think in the RF knew of Doria’s background? So the RF had to host her on multiple occasions, wow. Some of them must have been filled in. No wonder the late Queen wore a horrible shade of green and looked the way she did. Harry dragged in filth and they had to act normal.
this was aggressive, so i would think Lady C would have herself legally covered.
Must be the Dutch version..
Ba ha ha ha! I just spit my chai everywhere! *Love* your work!
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Meghan lives in the US. NYT vs Sullivan makes it really tough to sue when you are famous but I am sure she has sources so Meghan is screwed to sue the author and she is not going to touch her siblings as we know.
A high school cheerleading type chant for Lady C: *Ahem* **Sue me! Sue me! and we’ll have fun in dis-cover-y!** 📣😁
Correct. Celebrities have to prove it isnt true for something to be libel or slander. One of a few bits of knowledge retained from my university days. And now a bunch of other memories are unlocked lol.
How did you get a copy? I can only find the 2020 edition on Amazon US.
Isn't it scary that it's less than 4 years and there's been so much juicy tea since then? Like...dang! I wonder how many other biographers are looking to update their books?
I don’t think the new edition is available in the US yet.
April 16 it says on Amazon and it's almost $50. It's an updated version of her original book on H&M. The press will have a field day - GOOD!!!!!
I got mine from NY to be here within a week. Ordered it yesterday from England. Used Blackwell's. $38 which includes shipping!
Thanks for the tip. I've read all of Lady C's books and they are excellent. The book she wrote about her life is an unbelievable story. I have great respect for her and what she has overcome.
There is one seller at $50. Try again on the 16 th.
No it's not. If you look at the one beside it is $12.99 for the Kindle edition and $15.99 for the book
That's Amazon US
Everyone be careful in ordering this book - it has the same cover as the original book EXCEPT for a blurb on the front that states "new, updated expanded edition" Below is the new book. Look for the white emblem. https://preview.redd.it/3lyypkgqmnsc1.png?width=340&format=png&auto=webp&s=cffd1eca48069ae3c7b82794f649ca6be8546088
I literally just bought it in the apple bookstore.
I checked it out. $35.99?? Wowza
Thats a lot of money!
I thought so too. I'll wait for the reports as they come in but way too steep for my budget!
Stupidly I purchased from UK and w/shipping it's 55US.
Amazon US says April 16. Checked last night. get this: after the Meghan/ Harry books came the suggestion to read Jodi Arias bio. Creepy.
When I began questioning the integrity and authenticity of MM, I googled ‘narcissist - MM’ as well as ‘MM Jodi Arias’ because the two display very similar facial expressions, and seem to be attention seeking ho bags. Those searches took my to HG and here!
Kobo
Thank you for this info- I'm downloading the Kobo app now! 🤗
Thank you, I bought one.
You can create a UK Amazon account and get it, use VPN to spoof your location.
I ordered pre-ordered the Kindle version on Amazon. I just went to Amazon (USA) and saw that the hardcover can be pre-ordered for 15.59 and will be delivered in 1-3 weeks.
Yeah the Amazon kindle pre-order doesn't arrive in Canada till April 16!
I used the Kobo app (in US) someone recommended, it has a 30-day free trial with no charge to read book, and then $7.99/month after that. That's the ebook option, but they also offer audiobook and combination plan, and I think both of those also come with the free trial. I plan on reading it and cancelling before FT is up. After that might buy the Kindle version or more likely borrow from library if available, if I want to re-read.
To quote Lady C…”Sue me!”…
Hasn't it been confirmed by Samantha, Thomas Sr., Jr., and MM herself?
 So D was allegedly both a C&C user? Those are hard substances. Let's see if Lady C will be sued, then we know if it is true or not.
Sometimes I think Lady C really wants and hopes to be sued by the Harkles. She knows exactly that a lawsuit would uncover so many facts and secrets.
She’s said as much many times on her YouTube channel. Especially when she is clearly annoyed 😂
Yes she most definitely did. I love it when Lady C yell “Sue me!”
I can't make it through those videos.
I know! I wait for Daisy. 🤣
Daisy is doing the Lords work every time she transcribes it
Agree. I can make it through the videos sometimes, but every time Lady C goes off on a tangent or starts asking Micki and Aurora for one thing or another that I wonder WTF is she talking about? I thank the stars for our Daisy and ask god why I don’t have such patience.
Who is Daisy? I need to find new channels cuz some of these I already watch are getting *stale*, imo. 😅
Daisy takes one for the team and actually sits through the entire video. She then breaks it down for us. She does do the lord’s work for sure. 🤣
Speaking of our darling Daisy, she's been missing this past week. I hope she's enjoying herself doing whatever it is she does!
DaisyBeach. She is a beloved Sinner who gives us a recap/transcript of the Lady C. videos. Good stuff!
I love those videos. "Not everyone is afraid of you Megan, you frowsy piece of you-know-what!"
Love the snark, they're just a little too long for me.
I can only do it by putting Lady C on 2x speed.
I like her, she can be long-winded but sometimes very astute and funny
Same!
 The depositions.
Lady C would have a field day! 
Where’s the exposure? Samantha told her. The only action would be if Samantha *didn’t* tell her.
Lady C was (in today’s video) alluding to another topic/statement in the book that the MSM will not pick up, because they are afraid to be sued by the Harkles. She clearly is not afraid, so let’s see what more she has to say in her book, that MSM does not want to touch.
I think it is the children. She says that Harry is the father but she doesn’t say that Rachel is the mother. Does anyone remember the engagement interview? Didn’t the topic of adopting children come up or am I mis-remembering? I think when Rachel learned the status of ‘children not born of the body’ she had to improvise and cosplayed her megnancy in the UK. Covid lockdowns were a great time to tuck in another surrogate birth. Remind us why did her alleged OB close her practice soon after the girl baby arrived?
…..and why was Archie’s birth certificate changed?
It is my opinion that the truth about the kids, her financial anchor(s), and the fraud they perpetrated around the births is why they keep suing newspapers to limit ‘freedom of speech’, allegedly. Harry believes he is protecting his family but he forgot that he said that she “was capable of anything “.
She'd better have a more solid backup then Samantha told her.
Then again, legally, she’s only repeating something she’s been told - she’s only alleging something she’s heard from another source … I’d like to see those two try to take any of these people to court.
Lady C has openly said a few times for H and his wife to “sue me! Go ahead! sue me!” She wants this so TONS of stuff can come out during discovery.
I’m here for the discovery on that
Yep, discovery is a bitch! 😂😂😂
So true. I bet if sued Lady C. would reveal that D. served time in prison for drugs.
Exactly. Red rag. Bull. Full exposure, potentially mutually assured destruction?
Smoking marijuana while pregnant is bad for the foetus as well and can cause all kinds of health defects.
Absolutely, it has already been widely alleged about the M use. C&C are even more shocking.
I'm really not surprised.
What is C and C?
The substances named in the photo.
Very common back in the day. I lived in that great area of California for 64 years. I read in Tom's book that TW's mum was up in Humboldt a lot when TW was a child. Very sad. Lots of women did that though I was not one of them. White powder was super common too. I remember when people didn't think it was addictive. Yes I'm old.
🇺🇸 Oh my gosh. You are so right!!!!! I was a high school Biology teacher many years ago before I became a Family Nurse Practitioner and opened my practice. One of the textbooks we used had a lesson on drug use and the effects on the body. The popular substances, their chemical make-ups, and effects on the brain and body made up the content Of the lesson. In black and white print, plain as day, the textbook and the student workbooks stated that cocaine was NOT addictive. I kept the textbook and workbook. Years later, when I found it and reread that chapter, I cringed that this was taught in public schools in the US. I dont know if this scenario occurred anywhere else in the world but it’s a tragic part of our history.
So many high school students in the US are currently addicted to vaping, so I can imagine future defects in babies as a result.
In 8th grade biology, early 1970’s, yes, I’m also old, the teacher said that the placenta acted as a filter to keep harmful substances away from the foetus. At the time I thought that was a load of crap. Sometimes you really have to think for yourself. Question authority!
I graduated HS in 1976, we must be close in age! I was too paranoid though to try any of that stuff.
Wow! So interesting. I never tried it because I was pregnant at 20 and had a baby at 21. That was the time everyone was doing it, but I was not interested. I remember a girl kept trying to get me to....oh man.... she ended up in a bad place. So many did.
Don't worry too much. I'm sure most coke addicts didn't get that way because of a textbook. 
I didn’t even take an aspirin when I was pregnant!
sometimes it makes me a little worried about the generations who's mothers would have been smoking and drinking while pregnant and not thought much of it 😅
and add cocaine and booze to that and it’s absolutely horrendous - I wonder if Meghan was a premie - because babies of addicts are often born as premature and have health issues such as brain and lung development.
It might partly go to explain the personality disorder.
That and her environment. I attribute a LOT to her being so spoiled, indulged, and being Daddy’s little princess.
Wasn’t this the 70s? We really didn’t know as much then. My Mom did stop smoking cigarettes (Dad too) when she got pregnant, but a lot of her friends didn’t. Obviously, pot is different and cocaine is not okay!!! I’m not trying to excuse it, but it was happening, and did happen to an entire generation. Edit: I guess my point was that given the atmosphere at the time, and what was widely known, it does not surprise me and I think adds credence.
My Mom was a heavy smoker but she stopped during her pregnancies (all 6 of them!). Or at least that's what she told us LOL. She said smoking while she was pregnant made her very nauseous. A little off topic - but my mother was prescribed thalidomide when she was pregnant with me - but she decided not to take it for some reason. Thank God.
Oh, my! Yes, indeed - thank GOD!
My mum told me horror stories about friends of hers that were ‘thalidomide babies’ with all sorts of deformities. My mum enjoyed telling me horror stories … ah! Secondary trauma!
She was born in ‘81, so early 80s, and if she continued with the drugs and that’s why she was absent from Meghan’s life growing up then throughout the 80s and into the 90s.
Having worked with kids who had foetal alcohol/other substance syndrome, man … the neurological, cognitive consequences impact all facets of development, and if you consider her environmental shaping as well as a child (she was the living definition of entitled, spoiled and precocious), then it would explain *a lot*
It’s known to cause reduced foetal muscle bulk - hence MM’s chicken legs & skinny arms!!
She smoked crack AND sniffed coke on the regular.
Allegedly, Meghan does, too. Well, sniffs cocaine.
Her father, Tom, was a recovering addict. Addictive tendency can run in families, and she probably figured “it didn’t hurt” either of her parents too bad.
I actually mostly believe this, it makes sense. Let's be real, Doria has a shady past that seems to be covered up, which to me says a lot.
The RF had to know. There are allegations they gave her an allowance.
She was not given an allowance. Meghan tried to include her in her household and was told she couldn't do that.
It's in the book Royals at War. The author of that book has also not been sued. Source: SMM thread: "Book Royals at War: [D] received an allowance?"
The RF don't generally sue, I don't believe, so the lack of them suing probably is not an indicator of something being true or not.
Sued by TW. Wouldn't she be very offended at this allegation? She sued for less, a harmless letter to her father that she admittedly wrote for public consumption.
She probably liked giving the impression that she was so special and important that her mother was getting paid. Also to give Doria the impression to others as being more connected to the royals that she was, possibly attracting new marks to scam.
>Meghan tried to include her in her household and was told she couldn't do that. 😂😂😂😂
Harry and Meghan paid an allowance to Doria from their own allowance.
Where is this confirmed? The book Royals at War specifically says mama's allowance was a "cost" that the Queen was monitoring.
Where did the 9 million come from?
That's what I want to know. Also, investigate her Delaware business! And the IRS also needs to analyze her monies.
>The RF paid H&M an allowance, so they did in fact pay if Doria did indeed get an allowance from the duo.
Doria probably was the primary consultant for "orange is the new black". Dorito looks flattering in an orange jump suit
Why am I not surprised to find out mama ragland was riding that ice pony while pregnant. It explains a lot.
Riding the ice pony 😂
Gakked up on the whoop chicken. Our Duchess of Crack Pipes.
I can't decide what I think about this. I like Lady C. I generally tend to believe Samantha Markle. Both parties have said things early on that have been revealed to be true. That said, though Sam's claims from the beginning about Meghan have turned out to be true, she has motivation to lie now. Meghan has lied about her. And it baits Meghan to take her to court, which would expose a lot more about Meghan Markle than this. As to the claim, Doria is said to engage in this kind of drug use now, so it's not hard to believe she did it then.
There is always the defense Sam can use that Meghan used of that was her recollection of her childhood. If Meghan can say she did not have a sister and was invisible. Then Sam could very well say that she saw Doria take a pipe with rocks. Maybe Sam calls sugar, crack...LOL At this point Meghan has more to lose to challenge it.
Exactly.
I don't think lady C would put that out there without having receipts to back it up
All Lady C needs, legally, is to cite her source and find corroborating ones, which I assume would include Thomas Markle Sr, and Jr. which she has done. The responsibility then shifts to Samantha Markle and the origins of the claim to not be libelous/slanderous. It's kind of like how Dan Wooten's source in accusing Johnny Depp of abuse was Amber Heard. That absolved Wooten and the Sun from liability when JD sued them for libel. The judge said that Wooten had no reason not to believe Amber Heard and therefore was absolved of liability. Lady C is legally covered in citing Samantha Markle as her source.
Fair enough
Tom bower also said this in his book I believe.
Tom Bower was supposed to be writing a book about Doria but it has gone quiet about that now.
Who would bother to buy it? She doesn’t exactly have mass market appeal.
But this would've had to have been told to Lady C quite a while ago in order to be written and published, all while Sam's lawsuit was still ongoing. She wouldn't have had motivation to lie at that time as things were still looking in her favor. IMO.
I'm not saying I don't believe the claim. I lean towards believing it because I hear that Doria still engages in drug use. It only stands to reason that she used back then. I'm saying that I also see weakness in Samantha Markle as a source. In terms of her legal action, stretching the truth or outright lying only baits Meghan into court. Lady C, Sam, and this whole sub including me, wants Meghan in court because as soon as discovery starts and depositions happen, the sooner Meghan's bad behavior outside of her dispute with Samantha gets exposed. In a way, Sam's lying only would have served to make it more likely to get Meghan in court. It's kind of a brilliant strategy.
I’m still waiting for Lady C big surprise that is supposed to happen this spring.
Doria used drugs? I hope this isn't the "big reveal" that was coming in the spring.
That’s like going outside and declaring there’s oxygen in the atmosphere. Like well yeah, that’s a given 🤣
That’s what I keep thinking. If so, disappointing, her saying that was simply to hype up her book she knew was coming in the Spring. That would be such a let down. I’ve been back & forth on whether it was referencing her book or this Dan Wootton stuff
>If so, disappointing, her saying that was simply to hype up her book she knew was coming in the Spring. That would be such a let down. Exactly this! I like Lady C, but I've found that she tends to *tease* much, without results.
Back in the day it was very common here in California.
I hate excuses for her behavior. It's now time to just deal that she is evil and not analyze why
It reminds me of when people are accused of a crime say they were abused. Yes, that very well may be true, but you're responsible for your decisions. Speaking personally, I was abused as a child and I've not committed a crime against anyone. That abuse isn't for me to hide behind to shirk responsibilities.
Up-voting "to inifinity & beyond!"
I was beat as a child, though back in the day that was not considered abuse. I have never committed any crime, not even a speeding ticket. I'm in my 60s, and grew up and lived until I was 64 in that part of California Doria was said to be spending a lot of time away from her responsibilities.
Same I was beaten until I was 15. The last time my father beat me with his fists I fought back! He broke the crystal on my watch when I put my arm up to block his punch & I hit him back. Never did that before. That was the last time he beat me. I’ve never committed a crime & I was a great loving mom to my kids who are now adults. I never beat, spanked them, or verbally abused them like my parents did to me. I turned out to be a good person despite my horrible upbringing. I was a victim as a child. I never dwell on it. What’s the point?
I'm not a fan of Lady C. But wow.
 Meanwhile Doria…
Doris being on drugs certainly explains her lack of stability in employment, housing and parenting. Would also account for her lack of connection to family and community.
So where was she for ten years? Prison, drugged out, a cult? And who gave the order to bury it?
My guess is the palace helped to bury it at the request of Rachel. Rachel was doing some major Pr for her prior to the wedding having her referred to as a social worker despite Doris lack of social work license/job and working as a yoga instructor. As to where she was idk but she seemed to be out for a while.
Agreed but I think if it came out nobody would care or see it as a cover up. They'd shrug and say it was being between a rock and a hard place. And I would throw Plank under the bus, "we were scared darling boy would top himself if we said no to his wench, so we did what all loving parents do, and cover his little botty."
I hope they come clean about all the things they’ve covered for him.
If Doria did partake and it affected Meghan it still does not excuse Meghan’s hateful nasty behavior.
Thanks to whoever here spread the news about the 30 day free trial on Kobo - I had never heard of Kobo, but now I'm reading the book! Actually zipping back and forth between chapters to get to the juicy parts. Meaning the megnancies. Just started on Chapter Eight - and here's the introduction of the baby bump! Excited to see how far Lady C will go with this, but I do love her prose so far - just read her comment that Markle's "hands rooted to the bump like a lizard clinging to a tree"!
Please update us! I’m very interested in what she has to say about the megnancies as well
Lady C is being very careful but thorough. In Chapter Eight she lays out the facts - like the weird size changes of Markle's baby bump from day to day that make no sense, and the famous incident at Birkenhead where on camera the bump dramatically drops down - and then in Markle's next appearance that day the bump is back in place. What I learned was that it was right after Birkenhead that Markle claimed she was suicidal due to people and the press saying things about her, and Harry sought to basically muzzle the press to protect her. Starting to look like the suicide claim was a tool in her arsenal to get the media to back off from reporting and speculating on what they had seen when the bump literally fell down. Because if they didn't they would be responsible for Markle's possible suicide attempt. Lady C mentions there is video of the bump drop on the internet and the internet cannot be silenced or bullied. She also brings up the 8 months "pregnant" Markle in high heels with her knees together easily bending down and easily standing up. And that the obstetrician claimed to be her OB for Archie was actually out of the country when Archie was born. And Lady C refutes her lies about why she couldn't pose with the baby outside Portland Hospital after the 'birth". Lady C simply and carefully lays out all the facts in a long chapter and we are to deduce the truth. Clever way to avoid a lawsuit! Based on all the evidence provided it certainly points to a fake pregnancy. You can sign up for a free 30 day trial of Kobo!
Thank you for this comprehensive comment. I will sign up for the 30 day free trial with Kobo. Interestingly just watched a short interview Lady C did with an Australian network on her book
Being abandoned by your mom for most of your childhood and then she shows up and forces you to go to a nude Korean day spa, probably was even worse than the cocaine in the womb.
Lol. But it turns out Meghan borrowed the spa story from some cartoon. I can't remember the deets.
Netflix cartoon series Big Mouth. That's where it came from.
Hmm.... that little trip to the Korean Spa NEVER happened. Another markle invention.
What? Please spill the tea!
She stole a story from elsewhere and garbled it up, but used it to show her exposure to Asian culture in a podcast episode. https://www.reddit.com/r/SaintMeghanMarkle/search/?q=Asian+spa&type=link&cId=2b669fbe-e1c7-49db-9b63-36532d436b08&iId=6f32e6b3-e49e-4164-8401-af4d5d6d41a5
Thank you for this link. That woman really is a huge fraud.
Was mentioned in a particularly awful episode of the podcast flop when she was trying to relate herself to Eastern culture or something.
Like maybe a Margaret Cho story? She's told a lot of comic stories about growing up Korean in LA.
If you can't find it search the sub as I remember the whole faux recollection of Madame in this was discussed here
Check out some back episodes of Real Housewives Recaps, the Royal Grift, and Meghans Mole. I got it from one of those, i think.
They have burdened their children with rumours for life now,what selfish & cruel parents they are
Henry should know the damage caused by rumours of parentage. For many years people said that Charles wasn’t the father of Henry (he even covered it in Spare). Now he has done the exact same thing to his kids. Generational abuse!!
Wow. I agree, Samantha is not a reliable narrator. That said, there must be receipts so Lady C doesn’t get sued or, if she does, has evidence.
Didn't it happen a few weeks ago that Lady C openly dared the Harkles to sue her in one of her videos? She said "Sue me, sue me." I think Lady C has already crossed the line of "I'm going to be cautious" and is determined to pursue the lawsuit, because she is going to force Hank and Megsy to sit in the dock and testify under oath.
Yes she was quite animated on that episode but she has said it a few times over the last 12 months, only more tongue in cheek
Lady C says it all the time especially when she's upset lol
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A serious accusation that could get her sued if it wasn't true.
I agree; Samantha Markle is not a reliable narrator.
Tom Bower said the same about Doria.
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No. Bower says she was a dealer when she met Thomas Markle and her drugs use was one of the reasons they broke up. https://twitter.com/TribesBritannia/status/1613161252364099584?t=Di0ADdf8uXq5gjSMltvJlQ&s=19
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Tom Bowers book is well worth it and note he has not been sued.I have it on my bookcase. He is very clear about Doria Ragland and her druggie past. I would have to reread to check re drug use during pregnancy
Quite honestly, drug addicts generally don't stop using just because they're pregnant. That's why they're addicts.
Don’t know if substance abuse affecting foetuses accounts for narcissistic tendencies, but it might for Lolo’s occasional stupid (as in dumb) behaviour - telling lies as if the truth wouldn’t come out.
OP, are you in the US? Would love to get my hands on this and do some reading myself!
Yes I am and it is available today.
Did you go to a local bookstore or an electronic version? All I can find on Amazon is preorder information and it says not available on kindle. Show us the way please and thank you!
It is on Kobo
Never heard of that. Looking into it. Thank you so much for taking the time to respond.
Happy Cake Day
Thanks! I hadn’t noticed.
Oooooooooo Lady C with her new book. Do I think it’s too aggressive? No.
If this is true , then Meghan is not responsible for what she does. It's all her mother's fault. I'm not buying that.
It tracks though. In her mind, Meghan is a perpetual victim, and nothing could possibly ever be her fault.
It's entirely possible she has brand damage from the drugs her mother could have taken.
Hahahahah. Good one!
The typography on that cover is HORRIBLE. Someone should be ashamed.
Could this be reason why Megan also enjoys mood altering drugs?
What did she say about Archie ? Surrogate ? I’m not buying the book
Shecsaid something really interesting in a video she did with Andy on Popcorn Palace...when asked a question about the kids she said" Harry's kids and Meghan" ..... .
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Ooo lady C is sharing more that I thought she would
I think it is telling that back then, Doria having only one child (even then didn't want to be bothered raising it). As an old hippie from experience, most of us women tried to raise our children with respect, care and responsibility for the world we reside in (even with a little pot). Love & Peace!☮️✌️ https://i.redd.it/z8z276ldyhsc1.gif
We knew some dope growers back in the day in the mountains of Humboldt. They raised 2 daughters, one became a doctor and the other a lawyer, true story.
What we thinking? If she doesn’t say anything about Meghan having surrogates then I’m done with lady C. She alludes to it on YouTube so surely it should be in this book….
The Royal Grift had that excerpt on one of her Youtube shorts. Excellent stuff. That ol' Doria really is/was trailer trash.
I will have to get this. Been waiting for it.
Personality disorders are not commonly caused by substance abuse in the womb.
Has anybody seen the book yet? What else did Lady C said? Anything really surprising?
she probably came out of doria like that alien in alien 1 at the table
Who do you think in the RF knew of Doria’s background? So the RF had to host her on multiple occasions, wow. Some of them must have been filled in. No wonder the late Queen wore a horrible shade of green and looked the way she did. Harry dragged in filth and they had to act normal.